>Russians seem to be welding their copebarns to the turret preventing it from rotating

>Russians seem to be welding their copebarns to the turret preventing it from rotating
For their own sake I hope those are tack welds.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gun was probably already inop

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Perhaps the turret is already fricked and can't turn?

      Even if that were the case then whats the purpose of making a whole mobile sheet metal barn out of a fricked up tank? I guess as an absolute last resort it could be some stationary emplacement but these things are spotted just moving blindly along the terrain. They can’t really provide any covering fire, they make god awful scouts in the age of IR and drones, and its basically going to get rekt by any armored vehicle that isn’t completely immobilized, and thats not even talking about muh ATGM’s. Is this just some deranged form of mass sacrifice? It seems too ad hoc to be some institutional thing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You make for le funneh drone-filmed videos on internet, at least until someone digs up a real AT weapon against you and you end up on your last video ever?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    isn't this essentially a Black personig SU-85? sacrificing the turret traverse for added protection

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, because you get none of the protection with all the downsides of not having the traverse.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >none of the protection
        the welded frames are for attaching the copebarns (not shown in pic)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Right and those aren't protection against anything but the lightest drones. It's not going to protect the vehicle against ATGMs, RPGs, Tanks, EFPs, or drones with bigger payloads. While increasing the size of the vehicle, removing the ability to traverse the turret and limiting the field of view of the crew inside.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I’m not too convinced by this instance of smellkaka. Even if you ward off the smallest drone attacks, you tank becomes insanely downgraded on every other possible facet.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          they do get protection from FPVs but I have a hard time believing these offer anything against ATGMs or heavier drone dropped munitions.

          Against ATGM they probably get worse protection than a normal soviet shitbox with ERA.
          Unless they do a funny and mount ERA either on the entire fricking outside surface or on the covered turret.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Unless they do a funny and mount ERA either on the entire fricking outside surface or on the covered turret
            Considering Russians will slap ERA onto their loaf vans, it’s only a matter of time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Unless they do a funny and mount ERA either on the entire fricking outside surface or on the covered turret
            Considering Russians will slap ERA onto their loaf vans, it’s only a matter of time.

            >ERA on the tank hull
            >ERA on the shell
            I'd love to see that one.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              As funny as that would be, the shell is a big fricking surface.
              That's alot of weight in ERA on an already overloaded soviet shitbox.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they do get protection from FPVs but I have a hard time believing these offer anything against ATGMs or heavier drone dropped munitions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      SU85 could at least turn it's gun to a degree. Only movement this will have is up or down, you'll have to turn the entire tank to slew the gun

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >sacrificing the turret traverse for added protection
      That isn't why the SU-85 got rid of the turret. Are you moronic?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >this makeshift vehicle is not exactly like this production vehicle
        which part of "Black person rig" did you not understand?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You made a comparison using a simile. It's not "like" an SU-85 at all because the SU-85 never had a turret and the reason it didn't have one wasn't to give it more protection but to make it cheaper to produce.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you're overthinking it. the only points of similarity I was referencing was
            >Russian origin
            >de facto casemated gun
            there's really not much else that one can compare this abomination to, and that's not my fault

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they seem to have caged in the crew as well, as only the rear holes (nearest the camera) are wide enough for a man to squeeze through

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its not to defend the tank its to prevent the abandoooooonment of tank lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I want to believe.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like a good way to improve fuze's efficiency of FPVs...

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The guns probably don't work, still haven't seen any footage of one of these turtle tanks firing. When people were wondering what Russia could do to get some of their massive fields of half-scrapped tanks working: turning tanks with broken cannons into dogshit apcs is one of the ways.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So how many new tanks have we seen on the field produced since this war began? They have to have figured out how to produce them by now, right?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Then where are 500+ they made since the start?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      14.05.2024
      Tanks — 7496 (+11)
      Armored fighting vehicle — 14460 (+43)
      Artillery systems — 12515 (+28)
      MLRS — 1070
      Anti-aircraft warfare — 798 (+1)
      Planes — 351 (+1)
      Helicopters — 325
      UAV — 9985 (+49)
      Cruise missiles — 2197
      Ships (boats) — 26
      Submarines — 1
      Cars and cisterns — 16907 (+29)
      Special equipment — 2054 (+6)
      Military personnel — aprx. 485430 people (+1400)
      Take a look at these daily Russian losses and then come to your own conclusion.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Held in reserve with he REAL army that is poised to overrun Europe*~~*~~

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ukrainians are still a slavic ex Soviet Republic and that legacy of corruption and incompetence at all levels lingers.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    They weren't producing 240 in 2022, the number is assuming that Uralvagonzavod is running at max capacity

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Is that newly produced hulls or upgraded existing ones.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      neither, it's pajeet copium

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody knows. The 200+ number is an estimate that comes from a russian mil blogger that visited the factory. It's the absolute upper bount that Uralvagonzavod can make if they were able to max production by 2024. Western sources claim 60-120 but im using that upper bound because either way Russia is losing around 1500 tanks a year so even with 240 of them made a year it's not enough

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Perhaps the turret is already fricked and can't turn?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Still a huge downgrade. It makes it harder to bail out in an emergency, makes the vehicle taller and easier to spot and prevents the people from inside seeing in all but a limited arc. Unironically would be better off not doing this if that was the case.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >easier to spot
        Non factor. This isn't 1943. Modern ISR makings hiding a tank sized object in the battlefield impossible.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Sure, but every bit of concealment helps. Especially when you don't have the extra comfort or protection that a larger tank offers.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >harder to bail out
        is benefit, no step backwards, davai!!*~~

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're assuming the gun works

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're blinders, it's a cavalry heritage thing.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >we have all seen dozens of videos of these sheds deflecting drones and cluster munitions
    Care to post them?

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yeah....

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If the guns aren't in use they're not carrying any rounds, bit of a shame because I thought we would see one of the turtles go pop eventually

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine slowly getting cooked in this coffin.at this point is probably better to just explode like a reg t72/90 and be done with the material world.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >welding their copebarns to the turret
    Alright so its definitely not a temporary thing for reconnaissance or mine clearing or whatever the cope about those was and it actually makes them near worthless in combat
    I suppose it would count as second line vehicles away from fighting if they are using older stuff which seems to be the case in the OP pic, but visibility's still a victim

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >and cluster munitions
    does /chug/s shitskin army really believe this?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    looks like they used an arc welder

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're Black person-rigged tracked APCs, not tanks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've yet to see these act as APCs in any way

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does this shit work against shaped charges?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you need about 3 meters of "air" protection to drop TOW penetration bellow what is needed to punch through top of Soviet tank

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If there's "dozens of videos" of it happening, then why don't you post any and prove them wrong instead of just resorting to "cope"?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They really should be reactivating SU-100s for this, besides having a gun that can be used properly the roof is far better shaped to carry troops.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah casemate heavy tanks ftw

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      based
      i await the future of superheavy casemate APC cope sheds with tank desants

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >transporting mobiks
      >inside the cope shed
      >where the fuel tanks are
      Mobik furnace 2.0. Needless to say I'm in favor.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >those welding joints
    Jesus Christ, how horrifying. But that's Razzia for you.
    t. welder

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