Russians have analyzed a Magura naval drone from Ukraine

Russians have analyzed a Magura naval drone from Ukraine
The conclusion they came to is that Magura is made of complete shit, and the most valuable thing in it is 2 starlink antennas! Mounting foam and a piece from an old Soviet bookcase were also used and this is for 225 thousand dollars

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1763506914988622225

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    And this pos sank russian war ships woth millions?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Almost as embarrassing as losing strategic nuclear capable bombers to strayan drones made from cardboard and empty bottles of VB

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Worth is a very subjective thing, I mean if its built or occupied by Russians for any length of time its worth quickly starts heading to zero

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think millions are enough if you calculate the whole fleet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well naval traditions are priceless. Especially ones from 2nd Pacific Squadron, Black Sea Fleet is doing its best to repeat its humiliation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bait thread

      Lined up for this reply.

      Why the charade? Just make a normal thread.

      https://i.imgur.com/3kjvxeR.jpg

      Well naval traditions are priceless. Especially ones from 2nd Pacific Squadron, Black Sea Fleet is doing its best to repeat its humiliation.

      That was the Baltic fleet, moron.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this the year of the Linux warmachine?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Microshaft Wangblows fan boys on suicide watch

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >messy electronics
      Compared to the absolute shitshow that is Russian glide bombs that setup is like an operating theatre.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I immediately thought of this.

        You know, from that thread like four people looked at because the op was a circuit board.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      RusBlack folk have absolutely no credibility with evaluating stuff like this. Whole lot of projection going on.

      lmao, RP2040

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >messy electronics
      someone post the kuznetzov's Chaos-infested ducts

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >his aircraft carrier doesn't have a poison swamp
        Miyazaki does not approve.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          if you told me that was the inside of chernobyl i would believe you

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty sure the inside of Chernobyl would look much nicer, what with a lot of it being away from salt-water.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >nyet carrier is fine cumrad

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's like when a movie character goes to Mexico and there's a very obvious filter over the whole screen.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              So is it poor hygenic habits or aerosolized suffering that causes it to look like a poo haze permeates the ship?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yes

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its a stank miasma from the constant rapings

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              is... is... is that an RBMK...reactor on the floor?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's a turn table - spins the plane into position for loading onto the elevator.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why would there be a reactor on that mobile smokescreen?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                *semi-mobile

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Smoke generator on regular vessel has three settings: Off, Light, and Heavy.
                Smoke generator on Kuznetsov has four settings: Off, Light, Heavy, Metallic.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          is it safe to breathe in this environment? like i'm getting concerned for them through the internet

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          looks like silent hill otherworld sequences

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Activating tactical cogitators!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Comparison to the same class from China

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      over the years i've gotten a lot crappy electronics from the middle east on my table
      not working for the german military / intelligence - we make radar / navigation electronics and software
      but we get contracted a lot for reverse engineering

      you wouldn't believe how much shitty electronics i saw
      >small drone that used development boards for a popular atmel microcontroller
      this thing brownouted every other minute
      i have no idea how they got it flying
      >countless arduinos / raspberries pi everywhere
      sometimes even with the default pi user
      we could just login and... read everything
      >lots of clearly handsoldered pcbs
      no clue why they do this
      unless some zombie boards, just ordering from China like from jlcpcb is cheaper and no questions asked
      >under / over rated components
      >obvious design mistakes no 3rd semester electrical engineering student would make
      I must have competent electrical engineers, even in Afghanistan, so do this bullshit?

      honestly these look alright
      obviously not purposely designed

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >countless arduinos / raspberries pi everywhere
        Give me one reason why Le potato, raspberry pi or arduino shouldn't be used in suicide drones

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >countless arduinos / raspberries pi everywhere
          they are perfect for this, just normal electronics

          wasn't just drones, other electronics too
          they are just fine for most usecases

          and it's not the SoC i have a problem with
          it's usually the PCBs they ship on
          these are usually neither made for the harsh weather conditions nor for high assurance systems

          and then the software
          you standard SDKs and firmware stacks are typically not really formal proven / provable
          my company uses seL4 in almost everything for this reason
          yeah sure you can use an ESP32 and it'll work great 95% of the time, but the esp-idf has a lot of flaws, bugs and hidden drawbacks

          i guess for most countries outside the west this is not a big concern
          but for us, we have to invest this extra effort to e.g. make sure missiles don't just fail over inhabited areas

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          its overkill. an esp32 or a 555 timer could do the job without all the overhead of a full pi

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >555 timer
            Oh shut the frick and go back to hackaday you elitist homosexual. I am not learning assembly and that's final.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >countless arduinos / raspberries pi everywhere
        they are perfect for this, just normal electronics

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I must have competent electrical engineers, even in Afghanistan, so do this bullshit?
        Their engineers frick around for years doing nothing due to lack of work, so they actually lose competency over time. This is why their fresh grads usually earn the highest income in the turdiest of the turd world

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >must have competent electrical engineers, even in Afghanistan
        Nope.
        https://www.unz.com/akarlin/stupid-people/

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Question 6 Helen is a fricking speed demon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >messy

      >Colored cat5 cables in their proper position.
      >use of tie wraps
      >see a raspberry pi
      >using a fan in the middle to cool down

      It's pretty good, Year of the LINUX GNU Warmachines, Richard Stallman is going to be proud!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Some relays, a router, and an rpi breakout? Exactly how I'd do it, I bet it's all coded in python too

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I bet it's all coded in python too
        Might as well be.
        Nothing wrong with good ol' Python. I use it for all sorts of stuff.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There are lots of things wrong with Python. Why don't you go indent your strictly non-typesafe opinions somewhere else.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You sound like someone who would hate that those indentations could sink your country's fleet while running on Mint instead of Arch.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Better cable management than my PC.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      COTS is unironically robust and realiable. Russia should know that as they're using a lot of COTS gramins for their BBC PUCCNN

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >clean
      >mid tier cable management
      >cooling seems fine
      It lacks the artistic sophistication of Russian cable management and soldering, but it looks perfectly serviceable.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >three quarter Billion subs and corvettes now reefs
      >third of the Black Sea fleet dead in the water

      This war is stupid on so many levels it would be hilarious but for the heinous warcrimes and loss of life on both sides.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >actual connectors instead of hand soldered wires
      Western opulence knows no bounds. Each one of these must cost a gorrillion dollarinos considering what the Russian taxpayer pays for jdamsky with its hand soldered connections

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy SHIT that EasyCap, I have a bunch at home, it's what I use for my custom TV Ambilight system.
      This is a piece of trash to be honest, but it works for such an use. I wouldn't trust it in a drone

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/7V4OpGW.jpg

        >easycap USB
        holy shit lmao WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH MY BILLIONS OF TAX DOLLARS...

        >caps
        >is easy
        waddya want

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >messy electronics
      That's pretty neat cable management for something you're going to smash on russian warship and never see again.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      YEAR OF THE LINUX ORDNANCE

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        kek frick you i spilt my drink

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is until you need to update

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that only happens if you're running a modern rolling release distro
        try updating a debian system. nothing will break.
        you'll still be running 5 year old softwares after the update, but nothing will break.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          install nix

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >easycap USB
      holy shit lmao WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH MY BILLIONS OF TAX DOLLARS...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      is this bomb released under GPL?
      >tfw getting killed by proprietary software

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          we need a version of this meme, but about russian human wave tactics

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >250k costs
      Is this with or without Russian “Oligarch tax“?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i-i'ts s-shit!
    >played major part in sinking 20% of russian fleet
    explain this ziggers

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The ships are even shidder

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So like, a sea version of Shasneed?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I doubt Shasneeds have destroyed any significant military equipment this war.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        digits confirm

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's shit lol it's cheap it's unreliable BELIEVE US GUYS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the video does not show the success of the Ukrainians, but the failure of the Russians, think about it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's amazing the lengths the Russians will go to to humiliate themselves just to avoid giving the Ukrainians any kind of praise. Can't have the people understanding just how awful of a place Russia really is, and what kind of freedom and luxuries can be found outside that prison.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >no no ukraine has killed zero russians
          >all russians that have died kill themselves using superior russian made bullets

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly what every coach tells his shitty team after a blow out loss to someone better coached and more talented. Russia is the Dallas Cowboys of militaries.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >beat up on shitters and losers most of the time, people think you're good
          >face a halfway competent opponent when it actually matters that barely snuck into the playoffs in the first place, get absolutely humiliated, again.
          By God you're right, anon.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            HOW BOUT THEM ZIGGERS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Watching this video is better than sex. I hope they died screaming for their mothers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Russians don't have mothers, they are spawned as adults from the cum pits like poorer, shittier uruk-hai

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They mothers to drunk to remember they have a son.
        In their mind he go for vodka and never returned.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tape together grandma's wardrobe, starlink and raspberry pi
    >destroy enemy fleet
    Appologise to Van Riper.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I will not apologize to a cheater and general Black person.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"Those drones are extremely expensive. The Ukraine is wasting billions making them!"
    >"But turns out that they are super basic stuff and they are a scam, dumb hohols!"
    The fact of the matter is that these are the things that are sinking their ships for less than the price a Shahed drone.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >for less than the price a Shahed drone.
      Shaheed was supposed to be cheap as well, but those pesky Iranians would suck a israelite for 20 shekels.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Iranians would suck a israelite if it meant they could claim they stole precious DNA resources from the Zionist threat.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >disposable kamikaze boat is made of cheap materials, so it's cost-effective
    imagine my shock

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think the Russians are probably in shock that with about 50k of jetski, bomb, off the shelf camera and comm gear that someone didn't charge their MOD $2.5mil a piece for them due to corruption

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you make it out of anything more expensive anon? Its a suicide drone.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this the WHATABOUT cope after it was found out the Shasneeds were 200k+ each and trash?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >and this is for 225 thousand dollars
    That seems like grift to me, it comes from here:
    https://mil.in.ua/uk/news/ukrayina-rozkryla-detali-pro-udarni-morski-bpa/
    and it sounds like the manufacturer is just taking the p with pricing, knowing that they'll get it bankrolled by the West. They've put the price up twice since the wiki article was edited and since they've scored some ship kills with the system.
    Ukraine should just execute them for war-profiteering, but they wont, the whole system is a big grift over there.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they're crowdfunding this shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they're crowdfunding this shit.
        So, instead of buying two beers, I can buy one and donate the money from the other for the cause of sinking the Russian Black Sea fleet?
        What a time to be alive!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukraine should just execute them for war-profiteering
      What are you, a commie? We had a lot of cases where a private company working with the MoD would get harassed for daring to have a profit margin. I'm glad if it's no longer the case. There is no better way to disincentivize domestic defense industry.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        When you are in a war for survival of your country and the manufacturer is a Ukrainian concern, then yes, they should get put up against the wall for profiteering.
        Once they win the war they can sell this shit to the Taiwanese and any other country with a lackluster navy facing a larger opponent by the bucketload and make their money then, especially with a proven track record under their belts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukraine should just execute them for war-profiteering, but they wont, the whole system is a big grift over there.
      That's the stupid way to go about it, the smart way to actually weed out corruption would be opening up for competitors to offer a similar product for a lower price.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They've put the price up twice since the wiki article was edited and since they've scored some ship kills with the system.
      The frick are you talking about.
      Sea Baby is larger version than Magura and Lachen bought 35 of those for 297 million uah, which comes up to 228k USD per boat

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >That seems like grift to me
      Welcome to military hardware in general tbh.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're not spending $225K on the drone. They're spending $225K on the hole in the side of the target ship, which is worth millions. The unlimited chuckles are a freebie.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Russians estimate the total cost of the drone to about 250K
    it's an RC boat, the real price should be $25k
    they are coping with Iran ripping them off with their drones
    the drone would be $250k if Russia had to buy it

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"it build like shit"
    >"they literally used trash"
    >"it's garbage really"
    >...
    >"i'll estimate it cost around $225k"
    ?!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russians only have one move, projection. In this case they are accusing ukrainian drone manufacturers of the exact thing that is currently going on in the company that builds Shaheed(sp?) clones in russia. Wich is selling a cheaply made drone for 3-4x it's value to the army

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lose half your navy to a weapon
    >"um akshully this weapon is shit"
    Russian cope gets weirder every day

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ahahahaha those expressions are so fricking on point

      usa is watching from afar all like "wot in tarnation" while europe's giving a tired "not this shit again" look and russia is just... russia. incomprehensible moron proudly doing something self-destructive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You'd think they'd frame it more favorably for them by saying how it was a secret CIA-DARPA wunderwaffen costing a few million each and ukies would never in their dreams be able to produce something like that

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I expect the worse it gets, the wilder it will become.
      Plus, its Russia- things always can get worse

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't want to shit on the drones, but they sank, what, 2 ships total, damaged another?
      Moscov got harpooned, one Ropucha got hit likely by a Tochka-U and the rest got stormshadowed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If they only sank one, the entire program would've been worth it.
        Ships are expensive as hell.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dollar numbers yes, but from an industrial resource they are even worse, the amount of labor hours, and materials needed to replace a single ship could probably put 100s of "new" tanks into service. Russia either has a fleet, or it has an army, at the current attrition rate they don't have the ability to replace both.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Linux
    Biden, Google, and Apple and the Critical Theory banking cartel dont want Americans getting any ideas.
    https://www.infoworld.com/article/3713203/white-house-urges-developers-to-dump-c-and-c.amp.html

    >You will use our Patriot Act spyware code, slaves.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      isn't it the compiler and bugs that cause this and not the language?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't try to make sense of a poltard trying to turn purely technical issues into culture war bs.
        There's currently a push in software engineering to use modern memory safe languages like Rust in critical systems, as older ones like C++ have proven to be too hard to make safe even by experts.
        That's why even the Linux kernel has begun to use Rust recently.
        Of course this will make things difficult for hackers trying to access those critical systems, hence becoming a national security issue and the WH talking about it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >bugs that cause this
        The bugs are made possible by the language. The idea is advocating memory-safe languages where you couldn't program bugs of that sort even if you tried.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Could you give me an example that a small toddler could understand? Not me, of course.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            so what is a language where it's impossible to have those bugs?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_safety?useskin=vector
            This is the thing. It's a fairly simple and concise read.

            The article uses Java as an example of memorysafe lang but that's kinda moot point here. Java is not a low level language. It runs in a VM which can have its own memory safety related vulnerabilities across its different implementations for different systems.
            The idea is pushing systems programmers who mainly use C/C++ into something memory-safe, mainly the newfangled Rust language.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              One thing worth pointing out is that there is no magic bullet to fix all memory errors. Not for a systems programming language. For example it's very easy to leak memory in Rust and that's by design.

              The point is preventing memory safety issues that could cause critical security vulnerabilities that are almost impossible to identify.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          so what is a language where it's impossible to have those bugs?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Skill issue, this is what they get for exclusively hiring poojeet programmers from Fiver.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Most of those bugs are written by well-educated and experienced western programmers.
            Pajeets are cheap disposable labor for entry level positions, not critical systems programmers.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Pajeets are cheap disposable labor for entry level positions, not critical systems programmers.
              H1B visas would like a word with you, almost every major government body and fortune 500 company has managed to "outsource" to this filth.

              Bonus points when they run the fake interview scam on them and get saddled with some poo who can't even speak English before getting fired because someone else did his remote interview.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Skill issue
            More like "priority and resources" issue. No amount of good practice and language choice will help when shit has to be done within 10% of the time it actually would need. Hence you see "memory-safe" languages leaking memory, taking up gigabytes of memory and still fricking over on bugs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, in this case the bugs are in the language. Manual memory management aside, C silently converts arrays to pointers, and C++ inherited this design flaw. Virtually every security exploit you’ve ever heard of stems from this one godawful quirk to save a tiny bit of memory in the 1970s.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      rust contains patriot act spyware?

      >you are now aware the windows, macos, and android kernels are mostly written in C

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Stop trying to make Rust happen, it's not going to happen.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It already is happening with actual developers, morons on Khmer snake wrestling forums notwithstanding. It's a coding language not a political statement, use what works.

          https://github.com/shssoichiro/oxipng currently the best PNG optimizer available for example.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh my god. A png optimizer. The revolutionary app Rust needed, in a world where PNGOUT is still better after 22 years and Google is pushing its shitty webp to replace png.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >android kernels
        Android runs on the linux kernel, dipshit.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    compared to the disastrous glide bombs russia's been shitting out, this is a marvel of electronic engineering

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How dare you slander the great and globally important history of Russian semiconductor and microchip manufacturing

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't that exactly how a suicide drone is supposed to work?

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The conclusion they came to is that Magura is made of complete shit
    Sounds like there's nothing to worry about then*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~)

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >its a jetski with a bomb and a remote control
    I dont understand, why are you surprised its exactly what they said it was?

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If they're so shit, then how come they're sinking Russian ships left and right?

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >using expensive drones to sink useless ships!
    >those drones are cheap and dumb btw!

    which one is it????????

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Drones are cheap and dumb
      But Russian ships are cheaper, dumber and older
      Therefore Puccia wins

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mounting foam
    cheap, water proof, strong, reliable, and the only reason it isn't used more is most military vehicles require maintenance. wait'll you hear about people hot gluing fpv drone parts on

    >2 starlink antennas
    communications and control is exactly where the money should be going. I bet the triggers were reliable too
    >old soviet bookcase
    not sure. can somebody with knowledge of soviet bookcase build quality chime in?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >can somebody with knowledge of soviet bookcase build quality chime in?
      Is good bookcase.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the drones that ukraine has been deploying and utterly wrecking the black sea fleet are actually garbage heaps
    Even for the non existent standards of vatniks this cope is pretty odd

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Actually this is peak Russian engineering.
    >Hot glue gun a Canon DSLR camera inside a drone

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah the monke ninja robo dogs, futuristic stuff there.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That image is literally made up propaganda — but you knew that of course and continue to post it.

  26. 2 months ago
    Caius

    This looks like it's one of the prototypes that washed ashore on the eastern black sea coast.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    choose one:
    >the most valuable thing in it is 2 starlink antennas!
    >this is for 225 thousand dollars
    starlink antennas with mounting kit/ modem are 1k usd max

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This 225 thousand dollars, is this what the Russian's estimate it would cost or what they consider an acceptable number to rip-off the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation with.

      https://i.imgur.com/DAoSvjL.png

      Actually this is peak Russian engineering.
      >Hot glue gun a Canon DSLR camera inside a drone

      An Orlan-10 is $150,000 btw

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would they say the weapon that sunk the flag ship of the black fleet was a piece of shit.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Starlink should be renamed as Jormungand, the Elon Hekmatyar timeline is coming true if he weaponize his moronation and autismos.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think this is the only one ziggers managed to get, back then musk cut Starlink and one of them washed ashore. Its literally 2 years old version from Early Access.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    cool

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Russians have analyzed a Magura

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    One look at those things should be enough to tell you that they’re hastily-assembled junk. They’re just a damn motorboat with a little PC, maybe a camera and Starlink attached. Literally any hobbyist could replicate one themselves, minus the explosives. And YES those pieces of junk have basically overmatched the Russian Black Sea fleet. Because the Black Sea fleet itself is a barely functional naval force on paper only, just there for optics and to assert some sort of sovereignty over their EEZ claims.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    do they not have a CIWS or something that would delete these things?

    yes
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashtan_CIWS
    > it provides defence against anti-ship missiles, anti-radar missiles and guided bombs. The system can also be employed against fixed- or rotary-wing aircraft or even surface vessels such as fast attack boats or targets on shore.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"We have mighty russian point defense system than makes weak HATO generals pee themselves!"
      >"does it work?"
      >"Well, no. The coffee machine interferes with the radar and theadmiral siphoned all the hydrolic fluid into his lada"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole reason ukies opted for this drone boat design was that their previous probing attempts only ever encountered small arms fire guided by mk.1 eyeballs, no other resistance.
      Basically the only design requirement was making it hard to see.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    military procurement is grift, news at 11.
    still better than "black sea fleet"

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >RC boat is some electronics, a motor and a boat hull
    Whoah!

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh ok sorry. Will use the audiophile lan cables with the golden plating and the i9 cpus with cool rgb for the next Suicide drone.

    Honestly the hilarious is them coming up with an estimate of 225,000 (presumably because they want to scame their government that this is how much they """"need""" in order to make a copy).

    The frick. Frankly I'd be dissapointed and concider some scamminess is going onif the cost doesn't come down to 10k, if not even under that, per unit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Honestly the hilarious is them coming up with an estimate of 225,000
      there is a screen of crowdfunding campaign in this thread: 300mil H for 35 drones this equates roughly to 200 k USD per unit at current conversion rate
      seems like someone profiteering but as long as they don't have cheaper option its either this with 190k being premium paid over actual unit cost or nothing
      its the same as with russia buying shaheds - markup is insane - but you cant buy anything cheaper that actually works.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its probably just the initial start up that makes it pricey, like a lot of the materials I reckon is coming in about 40-60K USD and after that you need-
        >Factory floor
        >Somewhere to make hulls
        >Machineshop
        >Plastics and composites section
        >IT and Comm workplace
        >Storage and parts
        >Warhead and explosives lab

        Then you're going to need a fair bit of skilled labour, which thankfully Ukraine has but you're bringing in boat builders, small engine mechanics, sheet metal workers, composites specialists, machinists, IT specialists and electrical engineers, logistics guy... forklift certified, paint shop and spray painters etc
        It would be a pretty big team and chances are its not in one place so you also need some trucks, warehouse space to store finished stuff and drivers
        At some point, people have to be trained how to use them as well, so you need some drones or a sim setup

        Once its up and going though, it can move from hand built bangers to line production and then price starts to plummet considerably
        The fact they got it up and running so quick, that's kind of remarkable considering the conditions .

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          floor
          You'd be surprised how many of those are available.
          Worst case scenario, you go to a coastal city/town near the west side of country and set up.
          >make hulls
          They don't seem to be highly complex or made out of good materials, so a narco-sub tier station would probably suffice.
          >Machineshop
          Why would you need a machine shop for a suicide drone made out of 99% plastic?
          >Plastics and composites section
          If the images are to be believed, you can buy everything you need in bulk from western and eastern electronic sites (with the chinese parts having to go to a nearby country first)
          >IT and Comm workplace
          Only thing I can see taking up some resources and even then 4-5 fat nerds would do the trick. Hell, they probably upload the software with a dongle and test it out on a pool/lake or something.
          >Storage and parts
          Garage or two would suffice, you really don't need much besides the hull and the main electronic components (which can be stored in one or two boxes). The whole assembly would be like building a basic electrical circuit and then finding a way to properly seal everything, which would be the hardest part of it all.
          >Warhead and explosives lab
          Only thing that is actually expensive and even then, ukranians are known for repurposing russian UXOs for their drones.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Machine shop

            To machine the plastic. Duh.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, looks like it's Ukrainian marine Shahed. The fact it can destroy ships should be scary for anyone

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >250k for a piece of shit that can be built for half the price (including the high quality explosives)
    I don't think the reddit tourists understand that if you can build a better version of it, for a better price, you will get more and better results.
    But alas, this whole place has turned into a "lololo ur vatnik/keddit if i dont agree!!!".
    Hope all of you get raped with a cheese grater.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's doesn't cost $250k to build you moron

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >250k
        Source?

        literally the first few posts in the thread lol

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >250k for a piece of shit that can be built for half the price (including the high quality explosives)
          I don't think the reddit tourists understand that if you can build a better version of it, for a better price, you will get more and better results.
          But alas, this whole place has turned into a "lololo ur vatnik/keddit if i dont agree!!!".
          Hope all of you get raped with a cheese grater.

          >Russians estimate the total cost of the drone to about 250K
          you are a moron

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The cost of one complex is 10 million hryvnias
            pls reddit Black person
            go and stay go

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              you are a moron redditor

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it would be moronic, not moron
                basic grammar kiddo
                and please, get some better insults
                or perhaps are you too scared to say the scawwy n-word & f-word?!??!?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you are a moron redditor

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >one complex
              You do know this includes the control unit?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you mean the boat controller that any nerd with an arduino can do or are you honestly telling me they build a control machine per unit?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you dont need a proper control station for military drones
                Are you actually moronic?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >implying you need to encrypt a suicide boat connected to a western satellite with ultra complex sikrit military grade code and build a discardable machine so you don't get tracked down
                these things cruise for fricking days or dozens of hours at the very least
                all you need is a fricking xbox controller, a laptop/pc with the right software and connections and make sure that the antenna on the boat work accordingly
                this fricking thing runs on some modified linux distro taken off the web for goodness sake
                next you're gonna tell me the fricking alibaba drones are also encrypted by western/eastern super technology
                >inb4 long range
                you know what I'm talking about you disingenuous Black person

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      its the same as with handful grains of sand being turned into GPU/GPU - you can ask premium price until someone undercuts you with competitive product - as problem here is not the raw material price but know-wow and manufacturing process
      im not touching moral aspects here - if you are Ukrainian you might forfeit making money on your product - but that's not an easy decision to make as you undercut your workforce and further development by doing this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >250k
      Source?

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ruspigs pay 10x for shitty iran drones of what they are worth
    >that means everything with the same complexity also costs that much

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