i cannot believe in the age of ballistic missiles, white phosphorous, thermobarics, drones, and autocannons we are still watching this little hamlet the size of Kenosha, WI brutally fought over as if time has stopped
This. When I was growing up I was told any future war would be a short, violent exchange of ICBMs and air-strikes. There is a WW1 style artillery battle going on right now, the only difference is the trenches are slightly further apart.
>only difference is the trenches are slightly further apart
More like that contemporary economies are so complex and interlocked that you can't go in total war mode and have armies in the millions on both side with 10k death per days. Despite the sanctions, Russia still isn't able to do that which is disappointing because I'd like really like to see what 10k dead vatmorons per day look like.
>i cannot believe in the age of ballistic missiles, white phosphorous, thermobarics, drones, and autocannons we are still watching this little hamlet the size of Kenosha, WI brutally fought over as if time has stopped
I just want to point out that this is why it's so god damn kino. If the top states slugged it out, it would be the most high tech weaponry possible ie god damn BORING. Just them throwing missiles at each other until it escalated into nuclear.
But local regional powers slugging it out? You get older style wars. Utterly evil and regrettable, but entertaining. That's my take on the whole thing.
Its not about Bakhmut, it's about Chasin Yar. It plays a vital role in the Donezk water supply. Which is why Ukraine is defending the place with the amount of resources they are sinking into it. The Russians are constructing an alternative canal but until it is completed, Ukraine can literally block Donezk city water supply. Same with Andiivka, the battle there is about a water treatment plant, not the settlement.
It's such a strange combination of warfare from like all different parts of the last 150 years of war. They've got modern automatic assault rifles and tanks and planes and what not but they are fighting WWI style trench warfare with artillery strikes over small patches of land but then they are also using quadcopter drones to drop hand grenades on soldiers in the trenches that are nearly defenseless to stop the drones and plane shaped kamikaze drones to blow up missile launching trucks. It's like a match of Civ 5 where both sides have kept all their units from all the various ages of history and they are using them all at once. Wouldn't be surprised if we see cavalry charges launching javelin missiles soon.
No side can make any advances without drones immediately spotting it, it's the whole reason WW1-style positional warfare has returned in this conflict everywhere drones are heavily used
it's considered an incendiary weapon not chemical, but all you gotta do is say you're using it for the smokescreen, not incendiary and nobody will do shit
theres a bunch of different ones liveua, rybar, ISW and many more. each has their bias but if youre bored enough you can compare them to maybe figure out whats going on
>liveua
the hourly newsfeed is nice but otherwise the most outdated of the maps >deepstate
probably the best out of 3 although its moderately delayed and very conservative mapping >militaryland
it displays the army compositions but otherwise somewhat inaccurate placement of them and worse mapping than deepstate
Look, the government doesn't want you to know this, but: anyone can pirate photoshop and use a screenshot from google maps to paint their own "progress" maps.
Massive victory for Russia. Megacity Bakhmut has fallen and with it Russia has now deprived Ukraine of 99% of its population and functionally 100% of its economic output and strategic cumpits. To state that the blistering fast 10 month Russian campaign to take the inter-dimensional redoubt known as Bakhmut has been anything but a resounding success and has essentially won them the war would be an immense understatement, as this is the greatest military victory since Russia captured and then graciously vacated the small Ukrainian hamlet known as Kyiv in a fortnight. Truly we are witnessing the greatest military power to ever exist, I thank God every day that I am able to witness the sublime excellence that the Russian military embodies. But alas, I fear that Russia cannot take many more overwhelming victories such as Bakhmut.
The latest cope is that it didn’t take them 10 months to capture Bakunin. Instead it took them 6 to capture Soledar, and just a mere 4 to capture Bakhmut. As though taking 6 months to capture like a dozen houses and a barn is much better.
The free market has spoken, keep your hypotheticals and your frog spam to yourself.
5 months ago
Anonymous
spam this, moron
5 months ago
Anonymous
That doesn't make any sense, fatass.
5 months ago
Anonymous
i'm actually closer to someone who took the lowbody fat meme too far than a fatass, gay. should i start spamming pictures of my barbells after i put up a couple more of these cute frogs?
Russians have been living in the ruins of the Soviet Union so they're used to that. Squatting in piles of broken concrete is like their natural habitat now.
Probably not it's casualties though. Verdun was close to a million total or something like that.
Think about it man. One battle in WWI had several times more casualties than this entire 1.3 year long war.
It was the full strength of French and German 19th century military tisms ramming each other at full power. There will be nothing quite like it again (I hope).
If Zelensky loses Ukriane becomes a Russian puppet state with an insurgency that makes the VC look weak.
The west will keep supplying arms and training while some Russian politician is put in charge and yelled at every time a train station or bridge explodes.
Sanctions likely continue because their effects can already be seen and a weaker Russia is always good news for the west.
>Sanctions likely continue because their effects can already be seen
Ah yes those pesky sanctions totally bankrupted Russia. That may be controlling half of the country but I bet yet another fine will finally cripple them for good and make them reconsider
If you want to understand santions have a read, they aren't a kill switch for a target economy but they do cause a lot of problems, especially if you import arms technology like FLIR.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/russia-sanctions-one-year
>Trannies trannies trannies trannies trannies
You do realise to not be a "current thing opinion enjoyer" you need to generally have a nuanced opinion and not just follow the crowd.
If you hate every current thing you are just an opposite sheeple of the sheeple
Unfortunately recycling isn't as good for the environment as people think it is, nor is it as easy. Metal and paper can be recycled, glass can be reprocessed endlessly, but a lot of plastic can't be recycled effectively due to the way certain polymers behave and ends up in a landfill anyway [either in the US or one of the Asian countries we ship our waste to].
Some people latch on to the idea that recycling is great because it's an easy way to feel like they're contributing to 'saving the Earth' or something. They're ignorant of the fact that using less disposable bullshit forever-waste in the first place is way more helpful for the environment.
That person is still a total nutcase though. Pic unrelated.
>sorting garbage >for the government >for FREE
Recycling is a meme, unironically. Or at least, the "you vill sort into the blue bins" recycling. Instead you should aim to reuse your plastics and reduce your consumption single use plastics (after all, the phrase is "reuse, reduce, recycle"). Recycling itself isn't particularly efficient or easy; but companies have made a concerted effort to convince consumers that recycling is the end all, be all of saving the environment.
It is far from ideal, and indeed, the efficacy of which was greatly overstated by the petroleum industry. That being said, it is SOMETHING, and the more we do it and don’t just throw it away we help our planet recover from the rape we have given it
That's the thing,"helping our planet" isn't something that gets fixed by individual action. Recycling was a meme designed to push environmentalism away from any sort of structural solution into a problem of "just sort the fucking trash for free lmao". And this recycling movement convinces the people that are moderately concerned that the environment could be saved if everyone just agreed to sort the garbage. No need to crack down on the excessive production of single-use plastics, we have a photo of like 10 guys gathering things into blue bins, wholesome 100 we did it reddit! Recycling should be revealed as the giant fucking scam that it is so that people stop looking to it as the silver bullet for plastic consumption.
What a fucking cacophony of logos. Yeah, the pro-Chinese pro-Nork "maoist" retards or the Bern victims totally love the WEF, McDonald's, CNN, Bloomberg, Israel and especially NATO or Raytheon
>we're going to surround them, the cauldroon is real bros >Wagnerites slowly grind at Ukrainians from the front and take mass casualties instead >very clear lines of supply in/out of Bakhmut to this day, Ukrainians actually further from being encircled than they were 3 months ago due to persistent fighting retreat >Russian army has made zero progress to the north/south outside of fucking around in the forest east of Predtechyne, the front is basically static
what did they all mean by this?
>antifa
Well they aren't, I think >leftypol
The tankie and america bad ones are >China
Literally are >north korea
Even bigger supporters >wef
Don't think they do
>antifa
European (authentic commie) antifa tend to be pro-Ukraine on account of Putin being a standard nationalist dictator, American (anarchocommie) antifa tend to be pro-Russia on account of whining about Azov a bunch. Some will even do insane mental acrobatics to argue their support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine & disarming Ukraine isn't ackshually support for the invasion, but merely support for the dissolution of Ukrainian nationalism (as it is eaten up by Russian nationalists but nevermind that lol)
The whole article this snippet came from is wonderfully unhinged and a great read - it is dedicated, without a single hint of irony or apology, to Sholem Schwarzbard >WEF
Richfags are mostly concerned with the costs of a prolonged war and consistently encourage "compromise"/concession by Ukraine to end it faster.
i cannot believe in the age of ballistic missiles, white phosphorous, thermobarics, drones, and autocannons we are still watching this little hamlet the size of Kenosha, WI brutally fought over as if time has stopped
It's actually smaller than Kenosha.Only 3/4ths the area and the population
So Kyle could clean it up even faster?
Russians would unironically have a harder time taking Kenosha WI.
Especially with the Kenosha Kid on patrol.
This. When I was growing up I was told any future war would be a short, violent exchange of ICBMs and air-strikes. There is a WW1 style artillery battle going on right now, the only difference is the trenches are slightly further apart.
>only difference is the trenches are slightly further apart
More like that contemporary economies are so complex and interlocked that you can't go in total war mode and have armies in the millions on both side with 10k death per days. Despite the sanctions, Russia still isn't able to do that which is disappointing because I'd like really like to see what 10k dead vatmorons per day look like.
>i cannot believe in the age of ballistic missiles, white phosphorous, thermobarics, drones, and autocannons we are still watching this little hamlet the size of Kenosha, WI brutally fought over as if time has stopped
I just want to point out that this is why it's so god damn kino. If the top states slugged it out, it would be the most high tech weaponry possible ie god damn BORING. Just them throwing missiles at each other until it escalated into nuclear.
But local regional powers slugging it out? You get older style wars. Utterly evil and regrettable, but entertaining. That's my take on the whole thing.
Its not about Bakhmut, it's about Chasin Yar. It plays a vital role in the Donezk water supply. Which is why Ukraine is defending the place with the amount of resources they are sinking into it. The Russians are constructing an alternative canal but until it is completed, Ukraine can literally block Donezk city water supply. Same with Andiivka, the battle there is about a water treatment plant, not the settlement.
Ukraine hasn't shut off the water for good PR but if they are worried about losing the option to shut off the water why not just blow the plant?
Because the threat is better than the deed.
That's besides the point, the point is that overgrown villages are being fought over like Verdun in 2023. Baghdad was taken in 6 days 20 years ago.
>more vatnik schizoposting
what's next they are actually fighting for the orb right? monke just wants the orb to wish for many banana for all 3 wishes
nothing personnel ukrop brothers .....
>implying what matters is town size, not the amount of defenses and forces deployed to defend it
But why deploy so much manpower if it's just little dot of a town?
It has a smaller population than my home town which doesn't even show up on most state maps.
It's such a strange combination of warfare from like all different parts of the last 150 years of war. They've got modern automatic assault rifles and tanks and planes and what not but they are fighting WWI style trench warfare with artillery strikes over small patches of land but then they are also using quadcopter drones to drop hand grenades on soldiers in the trenches that are nearly defenseless to stop the drones and plane shaped kamikaze drones to blow up missile launching trucks. It's like a match of Civ 5 where both sides have kept all their units from all the various ages of history and they are using them all at once. Wouldn't be surprised if we see cavalry charges launching javelin missiles soon.
Foot soldiers being carried around by drones Carlison style whyle attacking enemy with bows
It's precisely because of drones numbnut
No side can make any advances without drones immediately spotting it, it's the whole reason WW1-style positional warfare has returned in this conflict everywhere drones are heavily used
I'm 90% sure using white phosphorus for anything other than retreating is a warcrime and considered the use of a chemical weapon.
The last person who at least suspected of using/developing chemical weapons got murdered by the US. Even, Hitler didn't use chemical weapons.
it's considered an incendiary weapon not chemical, but all you gotta do is say you're using it for the smokescreen, not incendiary and nobody will do shit
>Posting more cope maps
Do the needful
When it says 100% and Ukraine is still in Bahkmut what will happen anon.
>The US Army has 90% control over Nuevos Casas Grandes
>oh no, the gringos have taken 80% of Ixicatepetl-Tlatilango, a slum 50 mile south of Juarez, it's so fucking over!
the ass is in the ass
everybody knows everything
Another stunning victory for the glorious russian army.
is Putin forging another ring in Mount Doom?
that zelensky pic is fucking gold.
ghost of Kyiv strikes again,
nothing personel kid
Mordor looking mfers.
Art
>orange map
oh right, so Vulhedar got cleared out 4 months ago right?
RIGHT?
don't forget about Avdiivka too lol. became awfully quiet when that offensive went to shit.
Is there a website for these live maps or some shit?
Open up the console and type /spectate
>inb4 what console
If you dont know how to open it, you’re literally an npc
Based and CHIM-pilled.
What is CHIM
go back and lurk moar
Anon the image has a watermark
theres a bunch of different ones liveua, rybar, ISW and many more. each has their bias but if youre bored enough you can compare them to maybe figure out whats going on
https://liveuamap.com/enhttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://militaryland.net/maps/operational-sectors/
>fixed
https://liveuamap.com/en
https://deepstatemap.live/en
https://militaryland.net/maps/operational-sectors/
>liveua
the hourly newsfeed is nice but otherwise the most outdated of the maps
>deepstate
probably the best out of 3 although its moderately delayed and very conservative mapping
>militaryland
it displays the army compositions but otherwise somewhat inaccurate placement of them and worse mapping than deepstate
Look, the government doesn't want you to know this, but: anyone can pirate photoshop and use a screenshot from google maps to paint their own "progress" maps.
They did, but unironically
>which trap
I'll tell you in two weeks.
Massive victory for Russia. Megacity Bakhmut has fallen and with it Russia has now deprived Ukraine of 99% of its population and functionally 100% of its economic output and strategic cumpits. To state that the blistering fast 10 month Russian campaign to take the inter-dimensional redoubt known as Bakhmut has been anything but a resounding success and has essentially won them the war would be an immense understatement, as this is the greatest military victory since Russia captured and then graciously vacated the small Ukrainian hamlet known as Kyiv in a fortnight. Truly we are witnessing the greatest military power to ever exist, I thank God every day that I am able to witness the sublime excellence that the Russian military embodies. But alas, I fear that Russia cannot take many more overwhelming victories such as Bakhmut.
>strategic cumpits
I thought Russia captured all of those when Azovstal fell?
Holosisters, I'm not feeling so good
Has anyone made a shop of Bakhmut right next to Kiev?
What is the image you just replied to? What the fuck is it, numbnuts?
unironically thought Bakhmut was right next to Kiev
it's over
you are a worthless retard
add the polish border right on western side of kyiv
Bakhmut literally Seelow Heights 3.0. It’s over.
this version shows more details any idea of what else to enhance?
What's the scale here?
NATO is done for
once russia takes bakhmut the gates to the west are open... the long island gnomish medical center is under threat...
>The community college
NOOOOOOOOOOOO-!!
bakh bakh bakhmut bay beach
The Battle of Home Depot
IMAGINE.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
In other news, the Cardassians have entered the war on Russia's side, let's tune in to Putin meeting his new allies
>a year to take something that damn small
Truly a worthwhile prize. It's like a second Constantinople.
>trying to capture your perfect killzone that has already killed 1 billion Ukrainian soldiers
https://strawpoll.com/polls/7rnzm8wM6yO
https://strawpoll.com/polls/7rnzm8wM6yO
https://strawpoll.com/polls/7rnzm8wM6yO
https://strawpoll.com/polls/7rnzm8wM6yO
Very nice Russia, but what about Bakhmut 2?
Christ, how long has it been?
Jesus
>stop counting days
>start counting vatshill vids
I think this is a few months out of date so I made a new one with a timestamp on it. Had to fuck the quality to shrink it enough to fit.
Seriously how can anyone see this shit and not think "Fuck maybe I've been listening to a retard this entire time?"
grifting lawyer turn IRA shill, talk ablut grindset...
Unironically still not taken. That map is a little optimistic about the russian side (they painted red the entire current grey zone/combat zone)
you would be surprised
The latest cope is that it didn’t take them 10 months to capture Bakunin. Instead it took them 6 to capture Soledar, and just a mere 4 to capture Bakhmut. As though taking 6 months to capture like a dozen houses and a barn is much better.
>bragging about losing
>bragging about a siege against a hamlet that lasted as long as Verdun and had the Russians taking 5-to-1 losses.
>Russians taking 5-to-1 losses
Each Ukrainian is worth at least six Russians so the vatniks are winning the trade.
The free market has spoken, keep your hypotheticals and your frog spam to yourself.
spam this, moron
That doesn't make any sense, fatass.
i'm actually closer to someone who took the lowbody fat meme too far than a fatass, gay. should i start spamming pictures of my barbells after i put up a couple more of these cute frogs?
Nobody asked.
asked about what?
>bragging about losing
That is the way of the russoid.
Russia's winning though
Wasted digits.
everybody wins on the short bus my friend, just don't ask where the kids with two working legs and an IQ above 90 are going
Well yeah, slavs are retarded, but the Russian slavs are beating the Ukranian slavs.
Quads confirm
Two weeks or so
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Uranus
how kino would this be?
>uranus
>flank the enemy and squeeze off a chunk of their army
They knew what they were doing in the naming.
this will be the 100 year war
and america will pay for the war
>100 year war
>100 million chimps to die for big chief banan, his caves, and canoes
worth every penny
It's funny because they will never capture a "city" but the ruins of it.
still counts
Russians have been living in the ruins of the Soviet Union so they're used to that. Squatting in piles of broken concrete is like their natural habitat now.
>inb4 le Stalingrad analogy
At what point you say it's enough Sergei, it's time to go home?
send another one
Holy shit is it actually going to exceed verdun 's duration?
Probably not it's casualties though. Verdun was close to a million total or something like that.
Think about it man. One battle in WWI had several times more casualties than this entire 1.3 year long war.
It was the full strength of French and German 19th century military tisms ramming each other at full power. There will be nothing quite like it again (I hope).
That's all fine and dandy, but
>Russia still hasn't taken Bakhmut
The Ukrainians should rig Bakhmut to blow up in its remaining entirety. Kill as many Moscowvite scum as possible if they do have to give up the city.
If Zelensky loses Ukriane becomes a Russian puppet state with an insurgency that makes the VC look weak.
The west will keep supplying arms and training while some Russian politician is put in charge and yelled at every time a train station or bridge explodes.
Sanctions likely continue because their effects can already be seen and a weaker Russia is always good news for the west.
>Sanctions likely continue because their effects can already be seen
Ah yes those pesky sanctions totally bankrupted Russia. That may be controlling half of the country but I bet yet another fine will finally cripple them for good and make them reconsider
If you want to understand santions have a read, they aren't a kill switch for a target economy but they do cause a lot of problems, especially if you import arms technology like FLIR.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/russia-sanctions-one-year
Only two weeks and it is 100 %.
>Ukraine grift
>booster shot
>reassignment surgery
What?
>Trannies trannies trannies trannies trannies
You do realise to not be a "current thing opinion enjoyer" you need to generally have a nuanced opinion and not just follow the crowd.
If you hate every current thing you are just an opposite sheeple of the sheeple
>come on, just accept the current thing a bit?
No, I will always violently reject the current thing, marxist scum.
You're literally supporting marxists who suck gnomish cock, you shitskin whore.
>no u
What's wrong with being gnomish?
Yeah, you retarded moron. Now go dance for your garden gnome masters, just like your friends in that picture.
lol, cum/chug/gers openly shill cummienism
gb2leftypol
>Being mad about recycling for some reason
Bro are you ok, do you need some help?
I have to assume you are a shill trying to make Russian supporters look retarded, surely no one is actually that stupid.
Go be a garden gnome somewhere else, you subhuman gay.
>anti-recycling
Surely this was thrown in as a joke, right?
R-r-right?
You're talking to people who think thanking the bus driver means you like anal sex from other men. They aren't well.
To be fair that's totally sub behavior.
Unfortunately recycling isn't as good for the environment as people think it is, nor is it as easy. Metal and paper can be recycled, glass can be reprocessed endlessly, but a lot of plastic can't be recycled effectively due to the way certain polymers behave and ends up in a landfill anyway [either in the US or one of the Asian countries we ship our waste to].
Some people latch on to the idea that recycling is great because it's an easy way to feel like they're contributing to 'saving the Earth' or something. They're ignorant of the fact that using less disposable bullshit forever-waste in the first place is way more helpful for the environment.
That person is still a total nutcase though. Pic unrelated.
>sorting garbage
>for the government
>for FREE
Recycling is a meme, unironically. Or at least, the "you vill sort into the blue bins" recycling. Instead you should aim to reuse your plastics and reduce your consumption single use plastics (after all, the phrase is "reuse, reduce, recycle"). Recycling itself isn't particularly efficient or easy; but companies have made a concerted effort to convince consumers that recycling is the end all, be all of saving the environment.
It is far from ideal, and indeed, the efficacy of which was greatly overstated by the petroleum industry. That being said, it is SOMETHING, and the more we do it and don’t just throw it away we help our planet recover from the rape we have given it
>You don't have to tell me what happened, but you do have to eat this
That's the thing,"helping our planet" isn't something that gets fixed by individual action. Recycling was a meme designed to push environmentalism away from any sort of structural solution into a problem of "just sort the fucking trash for free lmao". And this recycling movement convinces the people that are moderately concerned that the environment could be saved if everyone just agreed to sort the garbage. No need to crack down on the excessive production of single-use plastics, we have a photo of like 10 guys gathering things into blue bins, wholesome 100 we did it reddit! Recycling should be revealed as the giant fucking scam that it is so that people stop looking to it as the silver bullet for plastic consumption.
You're over-analyzing a literal facebook image.
I'm sorry, how does recycling lead to eating the bugs?
I'm happy for your that your cringe image folder is so full, but what does it have to do with this topic?
Who told you eat bugs? I think you're the only one following this trend
Guys... stop engaging with the retard.
He's very obviously here to derail the thread because PrepHole is the single most important site to control info on for some dumbass reason.
I mean if you like it keep eating bugs anon . personally I like meat and plant based protein better
What a fucking cacophony of logos. Yeah, the pro-Chinese pro-Nork "maoist" retards or the Bern victims totally love the WEF, McDonald's, CNN, Bloomberg, Israel and especially NATO or Raytheon
>we're going to surround them, the cauldroon is real bros
>Wagnerites slowly grind at Ukrainians from the front and take mass casualties instead
>very clear lines of supply in/out of Bakhmut to this day, Ukrainians actually further from being encircled than they were 3 months ago due to persistent fighting retreat
>Russian army has made zero progress to the north/south outside of fucking around in the forest east of Predtechyne, the front is basically static
what did they all mean by this?
>antifa
>leftypol
>China
>north korea
>wef
These are all friends of Russia
No
Yes
>antifa
Well they aren't, I think
>leftypol
The tankie and america bad ones are
>China
Literally are
>north korea
Even bigger supporters
>wef
Don't think they do
>antifa
European (authentic commie) antifa tend to be pro-Ukraine on account of Putin being a standard nationalist dictator, American (anarchocommie) antifa tend to be pro-Russia on account of whining about Azov a bunch. Some will even do insane mental acrobatics to argue their support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine & disarming Ukraine isn't ackshually support for the invasion, but merely support for the dissolution of Ukrainian nationalism (as it is eaten up by Russian nationalists but nevermind that lol)
The whole article this snippet came from is wonderfully unhinged and a great read - it is dedicated, without a single hint of irony or apology, to Sholem Schwarzbard
>WEF
Richfags are mostly concerned with the costs of a prolonged war and consistently encourage "compromise"/concession by Ukraine to end it faster.
You forgot brandon
hourly Laugh At Russia thread?
You telling me you wouldn't fry and eat these suckers?
He's trying to get banned so that he can run off back to 4chan and say glowies banned him for supporting Russia
Worse of all, they probably don't even own a home. They probably rent.
Nothing worse than people who don't own property.
>well uhm recycling is actually LE BAD
Certifiable
What's wrong with eating bugs? They aren't going to literally serve roaches scooped off the street or something.
>I WILL NEVER EAT THE BUGS!!!!!
>Will eat Lobster, Shrimp, Crawdads, Crabs, and other crustaceans
If you're going to express someone else's opinion you could at least be less sincere about it
Can I confess to something? Back when I was 8 years old, I took a dead cockroach off the ground and ate it... It gave me raging diarrhea for 3 days.
did you died?
Nice kid!
This is true brother, get out of the US and go to Russia as soon as you can it is paradise trust me.
>marxists ruin russia
>marxists move to the us
>marxists ruin the us
the solution isn't running, its gunning down marxists
When this war's over I hope they put up an obnoxiously huge monument to the defenders of the motherland in Bakhmut.
I don't know what in your post addresses anything I said, but neat
It would be funny if they stuffed it full of explosives like the NCR did at Boulder City for the Legion
Did Ukrainians really lose a city to a bunch of conscripted prisoners? Embarrassing tbh