Russians are planning to use a soyuz to attack kiev, payload is like 9 tons. What are they gonna in it? What could survive survive 6km/s reentry speed?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1716754445856378892
Russians are planning to use a soyuz to attack kiev, payload is like 9 tons. What are they gonna in it?
>Julian Röpcke
>Jihadi Julia
>Bild
no they aren't.
I wish a zigga would
>Jihadi Julian
even in the unlikely scenario it's real, it's really fucking retarded because the Soyuz is not an ICBM and was never tailored for that type of trajectory
>it's really fucking retarded because the Soyuz is not an ICBM and was never tailored for that type of trajectory
As long as I see the video, I'm fine with it.
The Soyuz rocket is a development from the R-7 ICBM. The only things that changed were the stages added on top.
To quote the common reactions from inside Russia:
>this is fucking retarded
>and it's fucking Bild
>but Rogozin is completely retarded on all levels, so I'll believe this was proposed
They have ICBM's this is the dumbest post I have ever read.
>They have ICBM's
Do they? The last time we saw Sarmat II tested it exploded on the pad.
People who track ICBM launches can't tell if they have a conventional warhead or a nook, launching even a blank ICBM risks an American response
no it does not. Single one flying out in a unknown trajectory is not going to warrant any response but wait and see. Cowardly politicians alone will veto any trigger happy warhawk
Doomers really are clueless retards about the reality of nook ooks getting used. Full on launch is only the last of the last resort from the west and for aggressive monkeys like ziggers they will go all out from the get go trying to hit as many civilian casualties as possible. All nonsense about counter force or counter value game theory are academic toilet paper that completely disregards the human element (ziggers/xiggers petiness/face saving, western cowardice) in the chain of command
>Launch single nuke
>Hit Washington DC
>Entire country thrown into chaos
>Game theory now demands whoever is now President decide whether they want to commit suicide with a full-scale retaliation or just let it slide
How does the calculus work if you get nuked but it's not a full scale strike? Retaliating is the same as choosing suicide in that case.
Hint: a single nuke is not getting through the DC ADN.
>Hint: a single nuke is not getting through the DC ADN.
Spoiler: There are no ABM defenses around Washington DC.
>
do you know what "midcourse" means?
>d-do you know what "m-midcourse" m-means!
Please stop posting.
Thanks.
do you know what "midcourse" means, you retarded and delusional shitskin?
With the lack of any visible research, system tests or programs ( where is HGV, rail guns ), active attempts to reduce arming ( e.g. bombing or stuxnet'ing NK facilities ) i'm quite convinced US has developed systems capable of taking out majority of adversary nuclear arsenal on moments notice.
Wouldn't even be surprised if it's as simple as glowies planting explosives in launch sites or poisoning some key component in supply chain that would fail only with real warhead.
Probably the biggest problem is small tactical, mobile systems - where the system is simple, fully crew lauchable and unpredictable. Where the nuke is aviation bomb or artylery shell with no codes, huge vehicles or long flight trajectories.
There isn't enough nuclear weapons in the world combined to destroy the USA. I don't think you realise how big the place is. Pro tip, the idea of MAD is fucking retarded and assumes complete and total irrationality on BOTH sides. If you're throwing nukes, you're throwing nukes to 'win' not to petutantly throw the table. Therefore you're trying to 'win' and you 'win' by removing your opponents' ability to attack you back with nukes. Because the end of the day, the guy with the nukes wins, the guy who doesn't, loses. Therefore you target your opponents' ability to throw nukes; silos, air bases, command and control centres etc. You're not dropping a precious nuke on a city just to kill a few million people. Because you don't have enough nukes to do that. I've explained the maths before for people who think that Russia would just nuke Washington and New York or whatever, but we're looking at around 3000 nukes just to prevent USA from being able to launch nukes back and even then, they have additional sites around the world that need to be hit too. In short, you cannot do it.
this scenario hasn't been feasible since 1961 when US early warning system became online
No it doesn’t. Even less so when it gets launched at Ukraine.
okay, you know a Soyuz launched as a ghetto conventional ICBM looks exactly like a regular ICBM, right?
They could maybe hide it by actually putting their payload in a relatively normal orbit so it looks like a normal launch and then just de-orbit it onto their Ukrainian target, even if it takes a few days.
Sarmat ii doesn't work, the doomsday torpedo also reportedly failed in some way when being tested onboard the belgorod last year, the rest of the inventory is far older and unmaintained, and the haven't had tritium production in like 30 years. This is probably their only option for ballistic missiles bigger than Khinzal, and tbqh i wouldn't be surprised if patriot could intercept it at this point anyway because it's large but structurally less sound than that.
>haven't had tritium production in like 30 years.
The USA hasn't produced tritium in 30 years, russia produces it, they never stopped.
I’m pretty sure we’ve been producing tritium again since at least 2020. I mean fuck, just look up Savannah River Site. All other documents sighting US doesn’t produce is from 8 years ago when it was realized tritium production is going to be an issue.
>payload is like 9 tons.
More like 40 tons as short range ballistic missile, you don't need the second stage
>40 tons as short range ballistic missile
Has to launch from a custom launch pad, and there isn't one near the war zone.
Why not use a Satan II with the nuke warhead removed if we're talking retarded propaganda bombings?
Maybe those don’t work any more?
We're nearing peak Generals timeline.
>Russia is GLA tier
checks out
Next step is crashing satellites ala Gundam.
Zeon did nothing wrong
If America de-orbited the moon into Russia, China or India, it would fix almost all of the world's problem.
>it would fix almost all of the world's problem.
Tbh deorbiting the moon into any point on Earth would do the same.
>mfw this leads to russian cosmonauts being pushed out of an airlock
That would be a pretty silly thing to do because to the rest of the world it would be indistinguishable from a nuclear launch. I have a feeling that would set off a lot of alarm bells.
No it wouldn't retard. That's the entire reason they're doing it (if they actually are, I don't think they are, it seems way too retarded even from them. That being said I'm aware of the risks of betting on the russians not doing the most retarded thing possible at any given time). Orbiting ir sensors would spot a launch, but they would immediately notice it's launching from baikonour, from the launch pad. Noone would mistake that for an icbm, it would obviously be an orbital rocket launch.
If they're firing it at Europe tho it would immediately become obvious it's turning the wrong way, but if it's going for the US it would take a while before it becomes noticeable that the second stage is not lighting up to finish the orbital insertion
>point of origin
>ignore everything else about this launch please, including the lack of crew payload and the weird trajectory
>the lack of crew payload
Well you see, there are these things called "satellites"...
>and the weird trajectory
He mentioned that bit.
>but the russians would probably excuse the increased background radiation as being caused by say, a radiotherapy building being demolished in the blast
You don't just measure the amount of radiation, you measure the exact isotopes, and nothing but a nuke will have the isotope profile of a nuke. Then there's the bit where seismographs three countries away can tell you the yield of the blast, and if the yield of this nuke is so small that it could have been achieved with regular explosives then it would have been much cheaper just to use regular fucking explosives in the first place.
This is the confirmation we need. Russians don't have functional ICBMs now. Bomb every known silo NOW.
Imagine the flash
I actually hope they do, because the likely outcomes are either, catastrophic failure on launch, wiping out Russias space facilities (best and funniest outcome), it blowing up in the air, it it missing by miles and blowing up an empty field, Belarus, Russia itself or some other 3rd party country that escalates the conflict.
It would look just like and be indistinguishable from an ICBM attack and would trigger an immediate full scale nuclear response from the West, because there's no way we could know it wasn't the precursor of a full on First Strike Scenario. There's no way Russia would be so retarded.
I wish a nigga would.
Yeah, remember all the nuclear wars we had becouse ziggers put a satellite into orbit?
Yeah except on those occasions the nuclear powers spoke to each other to say that the rocket being launched at such and such time was a sattelite rocket.
They don’t necessarily. Especially for spy sats and stuff (don’t want to make it easier to find out where it is). The real reason is that one missile isn’t a threat to a nation’s nuclear response, so there’s no strategic need to launch on warning.
>It would look just like and be indistinguishable from an ICBM attack and would trigger an immediate full scale nuclear response from the West
it would trigger nothing you retard
just because Russia's threats are impotent doesn't mean everyone else's are, pidor
If the people in charge of the big missiles were that trigger happy you'd be eating a lizard on a stick for dinner and running away from Radscorpians for dessert.
ah, we're back to this cope. time is indeed a circle.
you could fit a FOABs worth of explosives in there at least. they could also use a tactical nuclear warhead and just claim it was conventional after the fact (im fairly certain this has already been done in several conflict zones)
You can't hide nuclear detonation, nearby Nuclear power stations will detect it and scientists will quickly analyse and identify the particles as coming from a nuclear detonation
>Nuclear power stations
nagger we have geiger counters in autonomous weather stations all around the world. You can't shit plutonium farts without some nigga knowing.
modern tactical nuclear weapons are very clean. i'm not saying nobody would notice, but the russians would probably excuse the increased background radiation as being caused by say, a radiotherapy building being demolished in the blast
I think that would be easy to distinguish by the isotope particles. Analysts can determine the national origin of an isotope, and they can definitely know if it was a weapons-grade source or something suitable for medicinal uses.
If you think Russia could get away with using a tactical nuke, I got a bridge in Crimea to sell
they would never "get away with it", i'm just not convinced its in the wests best interests to point out that they used a nuclear weapon. in either case there would be massive consequences for russia
>they would never "get away with it"
yes they would all the west would do is push them out of ukraine but they are too much pussies to attack russia
just shooting a rocket would trigger nothing you retarded pidor
if it wouldn't trigger a response, why haven't they done it yet? why didn't they start the war with an ICBM barrage?
Come on now, work past the FAS and rub those brain cells together!
>modern tactical nuclear weapons are very clean
You absolute fucking retard. "Very clean" is still an absolute SHITLOAD of radioactivity. The "cleanest" bomb ever was Tsar Bomba at 98% yield from fusion, but 2% of 50 megatons is still a lot. And all weapon fusion is neutronic, nobody does aneutronic helium 3. So it's all going to produce a ton of extra isotopes.
"Clean" in nuclear weapons means a low amount of the nastiest longer lived radioactive fallout, not "looks like conventional explosives". Even tiny reactor leaks are detectable.
but what if they disguise it as their own cooking
>but what if they disguise it as their own cooking
Impossible to disguise an atmosphere detonated nuke.
aurora borealis?
at this time of year?
In this part of the country?
Localized entirely within your kitchen?
Yes!
May I see it?
No.
9,000 kg of material.
98% consumed.
180 kg of anything that could possibly be radioactive.
Spread by a 50 kT explosion.
Anon, please explain how 12% of that being the long lasting nasty result is not negligible. Or shut up.
>modern tactical nuclear weapons
>Russia
Your Honor, there's a glaring contradiction in that statement!
This isn't a fucking comic book. You have to be 18 years old older to post here.
>they could also use a tactical nuclear warhead and just claim it was conventional after the fact
What’s the point of doing that?
bigger explosion, salves putins ego after claiming the "gloves were coming off" and "you just crossed my line of death buddy" 50 billion times
That’s retarded
Bro are you stupid? Nuclear isotopes even from a tactical nuke will be detected at various parts of the globe in the area because shit like Cesium-137 is almost entirely manageable made and drifts very far from the detonation site. The detectors for these isotopes are incredibly sensitive for this reason.
retard alert!!1!11
Inside it is the newest rubber bomb. It will jump and destroy the whole of Kiev with its jumps
>What could survive survive 6km/s reentry speed
There is no need for survival, only that the payload can endure the Gs until impact. It can still be hypersonic when it is at the target unlike returning astronauts.
Interceptable
The apogee would be like 3000kms. KEK. Yeah, sure.
see picrel
If they manage to scrape together enough dirt from one of the soviet nuclear test sites they might be able to build a dirty bomb out of dirt.
They need to just get shovelful of dirt from red forest.
>jihadi julian
That aside that it would be a whole new clownshow dimension
>a rocket is a rocket
>maybe 100 or 200 Kilometre CEP
heh
Inb4 they strike Kaliningrad accidentally and still manage to trigger a NATO response
>Julian ropcke
What awful baiypt
I love how Russians keep gaming out in their head how they can do a "small nuclear attack". Trying to figure out how they can just slip the tip in without receive a full on 16 inch nuclear retaliation ass pummeling in response.
Protip, you can't. There's no such thing a partially fucking the ass.
> Trying to figure out how they can just slip the tip in without receive a full on 16 inch nuclear retaliation ass pummeling in response.
You know Ukraine isn't part of NATO right? There wouldn't be any nuclear response because why would there be? Nothing stopping Russia from using a couple of tactical nuclear weapons
NATO has been very clear they WILL get involved in the event of nuclear weapons release. They haven't specified how.
Listen Dmitry, you cannot partially fuck the ass.
It's only okay when the USA does it
Not even kidding, you fucking retarded russian pidors don't deserve to weild nuclear fire and if you attempt to rise above your station as scum sucking bottom feeders you will be annihilated, your nation reduced to hot glass, your people melted and turned to ash, your history forgotten
You only exist because we allow it, the world would be a better place if every zigger fuck was wiped from it
I wish a zigger would
Try it
I fucking dare you
holy seethe little guy, calm down before you have a stroke
Go on, launch a nuke, actually do it instead of just threatening it again and again, I dare you, I double dare you motherfucker
Nothing would make my dick harder than excising the wart that is your pathetic country full of alcoholics, vice, and avarice from this earth
I go to bed hoping that russia is stupid enough to tempt the West with nuclear war tomorrow, when I wake up I start every day hoping that today will be the day that russia will attempt a nuclear exchange
The only thing I care about is russians dying, I stroke my dick while I watch videos of ziggers getting ventilated, I print out photos of dead russians and splatter them with my cum
So launch a nuke
Do it
You won't though, will you? Because behind your smug attempts at bravado there's nothing, you're actually scared of what will happen if you do, and that's why you haven't, and that's why you won't, so go on, tell me how I'm angy, or whatever the approved vatnagger cope of the week is, it doesn't matter because you're less than nothing, just another zigger and I can't wait for you to die
Least russophobic /k/ommando
>Nothing stopping Russia from using a couple of tactical nuclear weapons
Just the threat of retaliation
If there is truly nothing stopping them, then why haven't they used any?
>Just the threat of retaliation
nobody will do anything
>If there is truly nothing stopping them, then why haven't they used any?
because west would now fully support ukraine and push out russians
you are a retard vatnagger
>nobody will do anything
>because west would now fully support ukraine and push out russians
Which is it pidor?
We are at war with Eurasia, we have always been at war with Eastasia
>the West would not do anything
>the West would do something
the vatnagger is broken
I wonder if you'll think back on your time shilling on /k/ when you bleed out in an empty field in Ukraine
I wonder if you'll cry out as your comrades leave you to die
I wish I could watch the life leave your eyes
You and every single worthless russian cock sucker
TZD
The dudes not dying in Ukraine, he's probably a Hindu in a call center
If it's from Jihad Julian, it's somehow pro-Russian. My guess is he is doing to make people screech about it so ziggers can laugh at them. Just do it anyway, it'll be funny. Looks like Russia will try to claim it was an accident. Just like they did with the attempted shooting down of a UK AWACS (which the UK also gladly agreed was an accident, even though they had audio recording that proved it wasn't).
At this point why not just fucking nuke them already? We all know it's going to happen eventually
>i-it's not an ICBM
why are retards acting like you can't just fill it with explosives or cluster bombs and shoot it a kiev?
I love when I wake up early enough to get to see the pure, unfiltered cope straight from the source
>yeah, maybe Russia launches a few mouse poppers, decadent west will do nothing! the ass will be in the ass and everything will be understood.
>just a bigger kinzhal
>retards act like this is the same as using nooks
>they already shot shitloads of rockets on kiev homosexuals
Were any of them nooks?
this is not a nuke it's a moab
You didn't answer the question
>inb4 it fails to launch or gets hit by patriot
Assuming everything you used as an example is 100% true, they will still care about Russia using a nuclear weapon because there are multiple nations who don't want to see that happening. Internal conspiracies are far removed from geopolitics
i think i should straighten things out though. i don't know if this recording is real (i didn't listen to it). if it is real, i doubt they'd go through with it. if they did go through with it, they probably wouldn't use a nuclear warhead. if they did use a nuclear warhead, contrary to how my posts may read, i'm actually leaning towards the west not covering it up and pointing out the evidence at every opportunity. all i know is that the russians would DEFINITELY claim it was conventional
>vatnagger btfo
>stops replying
Many such cases
LMAO PUTIN HAD A HEART ATTACK TODAY
wtf its real
>they denied it
So it is true.
a good liar mixes truth with fiction. notice the subtitle about body doubles? could be one of his doubles had a heart attack
>a good liar mixes truth with fiction
maybe but these are russian liars
no good ones
>putin didn't have a heart attack
>also he doesn't have a body double
>also he doesn't use the same fsb agents in every photo op
I'm not surprised, people are talking about the very real possibility that the last thing that the Russians had left to be proud of is going to be shot at Kiev in another Malding Missile Strike where it is in all likelihood going to achieve next to nothing if my some miracle it doesn't just burn and explode upon re-entry.
They're going to fill it with meat
I mean it was pretty obvious they were processing corpses into meat because when people posted the original mobik cube, there was a radically changing story on what it actually was and when it hit the internet, within hours the cube was removed and another story came out.
Is picrel the original? If not, you happen to have it?
Yeah that's the original. This is what happened from what I remember
>/chug/ comes here and on /misc/ saying that Ukraine has so many dead it is mulching up them into meat cubes
>People point out that is in Russian occupied Ukraine and there is no way that can be Ukrainian
>Suddenly the narrative changes and it is no longer mulched Ukrainians, but it is discarded offal from a nearby meat processing plant
>The process plant is found, but it is actually a chicken farm and I think it was closed
>Suddenly the narrative changes and it's being transported somewhere else
>People start joking it is mobik cubes and people point out parts that look like DNPR flag and feet and so on
>This causes massive seethe
>Eventually the cube is moved and the 'official' reason from some Russian spokesman was it was a charity donation to a dog food processing plant and it was pig parts or something, pictures of it cleared up and sanitised with powder released too
>people still say it was a mobik cube because of the rate of changing story and the clear up time
And now here we are.
>Russian occupied Ukraine
No it's in Russia itself, in Belgorod.
Oh was it? I forgot. Thanks.
*Greater Ukraine
>Belgorod
Like he said, Russian occupied Ukraine.
>it was a charity donation to a dog food processing plant
After which someone immediately checked and found that there are no dog shelters big enough to take that quantity of meat scraps close enough that they wouldn't spoil in transport.
In short, the question whether dead mobiks are actually mulched into meatcubes remains unconfirmed, but the very subject is such a good stick for poking the ziggershill anthill that there might be some truth to that.
Damn obvious fake.
I like how the poster even does the whole "im not from here" act to increase his credibility because even /misc/ knows everyone in /misc/ is retarded.
Imagine how haunted these places are going to be
>>>/x/
R7 is an obselete ICBM.
N1 dropping a 100mt nuclear warhead is the way to go.
Why is this thread allowed to be up? Tired of this shit.
It could be intercepted by a Patriot missile defense system, yes?
They probably won't - this thing is not designed for re-entry, and also it would not be possible to distinguish it for a genuine ICBM launch towards Europe.
>nato are also huge pussies constantly scared of muh escalation
if a nuke flies, there is no more 'escalation problem', as the escalation has already escalated to maximum and cannot escalate any higher because there is nowhere to escalate TO. And then something very moderate happens.
>Russians are planning to use a Soyuz to attack Kiev
Yeah......
See, if Russia wanted to hurt Ukraine into submission, they should have maintained their ICBMs and replaced their nuclear warheads with conventional warheads. If they violated Ukrainian sovereignty back in 2014, why should they fear the international community over using ICBMs with conventional warheads?
Fuck yeah, how long till MOAB gets fitted to a rocket and dropped on Moscow
Based dubs, chkd. Dumbfounding how approx 85% of that fuckers weight is all explosives.
Just watch. It has 1 passenger on it, Putin himself, and he will crash into Kyiv and emerge as Mecha-Putin.
>What could survive survive 6km/s reentry
Pic.Rel. and at 7 Tons none the less. Probably even more if you don't need to have 3 live Kubiks at touchdown. Accuracy would be bigger issue. Even with 10T FOAB you need at least 100m CEP.
I hope they do and I hope it gets shot down by Patriot.
it's hard to believe
surely there's a cheaper rocket they could use to shoot at kiev
Korolev and every scientific degree holder who lived and died in the USSR is spinning in their grave.
This movie was based. Quotable moments abound but the best was when he was on television or the board room coffee analogy.
What's the point though? Unless they've completely ran out of any launch platforms it would look completely idiotic. While still stupid, but re-purposing silo ICBM to carry multiple standard Kalibr 400kg explosives in MIRVs would make more sense and actually hit some targets.
They probably dont want to show off any icbm for Nato to study
But we are talking about russians they use tanks as artillery instead of infantry mortars
>dont want to show off any icbm for Nato to study
Good point. But still with the cost and 50..100km CEP what's the point when they don't even hit anything?
At 50Mil per rocket they might as well buy 350 cessnas and combined with few shaheds expend 150Mil in AA rockets, then just delete anything at will with Kalibrs and Iskanders.
IDK maybe only for terror? Have huge fireball coming at city then airburst 10T of high explosives to smash windows in entire city?
I'm honestly surprised the russians didn't use missiles on ukraine until this late into this war honestly... why are they just now starting to have ideas of using missiles now? Also would the missiles they will use have any actual effects or outcomes of this prolonging war?
Hmm let's see...
>russia is getting to the point they will start using any known missiles at their disposal, maybe a nuke if the war goes long enough
>if russia somehow loses at this point, they won't just back down and call it a day but instead just discreetly start rebuilding their military force and one day they will go full on soviet union zerg rush on ukraine due to russia having a vengeful mentality
>meanwhile, china is getting extremely ambitious on their potential attack on Taiwan but also taking notes on the war that is happening between russia and ukraine to make their tactics on attacking Taiwan somehow not as a clusterfuck but still will be a messy conflict between the two
>Israel is already at war with Palestine and are going full remove kebab on the entire Palestinians that is making serbia past conflicts tamed
>united states is having a complete breakdown in itself over class struggles, opposition sides of parties, people hating each over over some political views or social culture views and the idea of a civil war could happen in the far future at some point
>germany is slowly remilitarize their nation and some aspects of the political structures are splitting between liberal party and the nationalist party
>india and china is getting more expressive with their transgressions towards each other and currently having border wars with medieval weapon tactics instead of firearms to avoid a full on war
>africa being africa, having none ending conflicts and warlords trying to take place as leader of whatever land there is in africa these days
I'm not saying world war 3 will break out but it's sure as fuck looking like we are close to having a world war 3 at some point in our current generation or the generation after ours this point.
Correct me on any of these posts i made because i am open to any criticism and correctness please.
Its in the worlds interest to keep this thing going as long as possible even if both sides are running on fumes until at least the point putin dies. New leadership will be able to blame putin for poor decisions and promise reform without directly taking fault and it'll slowly fade out from there.
Pretty spot on. IMHO the missing ingredient is capability or Achilles heel. No one goes to war thinking they'll loose. So we have to think who might have the biggest potential or weak point to predict where and how the floodgates will open.
The US is always like this. From across the ocean someone decides we're a retard clusterfuck and forgets our logistics and production. They poke us, we swat back without really paying attention. The enemy decides that is the height of US power and get jiggy with the attitude.
Suddenly an entire generation of men and everything to do with your infrastructure turns up missing.
Your head canon at this point is either "please don't fuck my ass anymore daddy" or "no we totally beat america because (insert idiot metric)".
So when is Tim Curry taking over?
>bild
lmao
anyway isn't this technically EXACTLY what patriot was designed to defeat?
Dumbest shit ever and likely an AI fake.
It'll look like an ICBM launch, it's only 9 tons of HE so it won't have huge impact on anything strategically and the kinetic energy isn't much of a factor because if you want the nearly empty core stage to make it to the ground you have to be going ~2km/s max.
Are you just making retarded claims and seeing who falls for it?
Have none of you naggers heard if a double-flash?
Even if Russia somehow wanted to claim that any fallout ackshually was from a radiological clinic, the explosion itself would create an undeniable double-flash, easily detectable by satellites solely created for the purpose of looking for double-flashes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions#Blast_damage
>He doesn't know
High-Explosive Anti-Khrushchyovka warhead
at last i truly see
>9 tons
Like 10% of pigs pack if they print it in A5.
Is this launch going to be more successful than the last Russian failed moon landing that even the pajeets managed to do?
>What could survive survive 6km/s reentry speed?
Nothing.
puccian engineers replied exactly that to that proposal
But promised to work out something in 6-12 months (translation "gib moneys for a new yacht")
Just for that launch that's roughly 240 million not including the payload
8000 per pound.
Soyuz doesn't actually cost anywhere near that much: they just charge an arm and a leg. The internal cost to Russia is probably less than $20 million.
you have to have a sub-60 IQ to believe that shit.
Jihadi Julian is drinking again.
I wouldn't worry about it.