Russian Yakovlev Yak-24 Loshad" (1952), before the Americans stole this twin-engine concept for their Boeing CH-47 "Chinook" in the ...

Russian Yakovlev Yak-24 “Loshad" (1952), before the Americans stole this twin-engine concept for their Boeing CH-47 "Chinook" in the early ’60s.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >first flight: 1945

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fool, you should have waited until I had a lot of people around to troll the Russians.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry Kyrylo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      b a n a n

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/5c5MSoB.jpeg

      >before the Americans stole this twin-engine concept
      okay, vatnik

      Is there anything commies truly innovated? Or was it all literally stolen, "tweaked," then "refined?"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        IFV concept

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          already in WW2

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            name it

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Infantry on top of T-34, comrade

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Stug had the combat role of an IFV just without the APC part

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not really? Even APC's weren't really a thing in WW2. While you had half-tracks (such as Sd.Kfz. 251 and M3's) you also had full-tracks (Universal Carrier) and it wasn't until the Bongs (or Canadians or Australians I forget, British Commonwealth Forces anyway) took obsolete tanks such as M3's and removed the turret, ammo and shit and put in benches that the real idea of 'APC' actually came into being. That is, armored and fully tracked with defensive weaponry. Now, if you consider flamethrowers to be a powerful enough weapon to push the APC into IFV then they'd fit the bill, but in terms of 'fully armored, fully tracked, can carry dismounts and has a rapid firing autocannon of at least 20mm' then no, there wasn't any.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The first "proper" IFV was the West German HS.30. I would argue certain variants of the WW2 German Hanomags or Allied LVT's could be considered the earliest "modern" IFV's.

          Pic is a British LVT with a 20mm to provide support for troops crossing the rhine until bridges could be built.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is an alternate universe out there where Nazi Germany built the Katzchen and gave it a 20mm up top, creating a Pansarbandvagn 301 15 years early.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That looks like a 50. cal?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You could say they innovated in terms of sociopolitical domination techniques, perhaps. How to seduce and mobilize simpletons into a gigantic battering ram. Then how to pacify and further simplify them afterwards.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mass starvation

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For better or worse they are really good at leveraging ignorance, fear, greed, and other negative elements within enemy societies and the world at large to allow their objectively inferior state to achieve victories, and they are also in general very good or at least thoughtful about repression and control of the masses.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I ain't a religious man, but when I've seen Catholics back in the day call Soviets "The Beast" or the Red Army, "The Army of The Beast" it hit me like a bullseye.

          >Is there anything commies truly innovated?
          ternary computing, they had some good math institutions and teaching.. their leadership just fricking sucks, they put their scientists in prison camps and threaten to murder families

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer

          Asianometry Channel watcher?
          His vids on Soviet microchips have a bunch of Boomers sharing interesting anecdotes in the Comments.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Who? AIDS?
          Fixed the caption

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Is there anything commies truly innovated?
        ternary computing, they had some good math institutions and teaching.. their leadership just fricking sucks, they put their scientists in prison camps and threaten to murder families

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >their leadership just fricking sucks, they put their scientists in prison camps and threaten to murder families
          How else are you going to get your scientists to do science stuff?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        AK-47 duh

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That was made by a German, under pressure.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cope. He had nothing at all to do with the AK's development.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Throw in some Garand and M1 Carbine in there too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They didn't really refine anything, aside from murdering russians in the must brutal ways possible, to the point where even Mengele would blush and look away in shame.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Affordable housing, free education, ending cyclical famines, and other insignificant shit like that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ending cyclical famines
          you mean the commies invented it by abolishing communism right?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, there were no famines in the USSR post WW2. The commies did without a doubt defeat starvation.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There was one right after the war, you liar.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Posts like this remind me communists are either really stupid because they are incredibly ignorant oh history and the ideology they supposedly worship, or they're really smart because they manage to be disingenuous and lie at every turn defend it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You can't really call buying tons of grain and other foodstuffs from China and NK when your crops fail due to commie moronation as beating famine.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The USSR bought subsidized grain from the US on credit throughout the whole cold war every time their crops failed, just to try to keep their people fed, but all it did was make them crash the global grain market time and time again.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >most fertile land in the world
              >more of it than anyone else
              >not even a very large population
              >barely avoiding famine (after 45, no one cares about the millions that starved in the 30s) by buying food from you arch enemy
              Ayy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          correct
          all their many famines were completely a-cyclical
          just one of the fringe benefits of Lysenkoism

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >free education
          Did soviet teachers work for free? Publishers making textbooks? Construction workers building schools and universities?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Did soviet teachers work for free?
            everyone could put their names on car purchase waiting list.. but.. some people are still waiting for cars ordered in 1960s

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ending cyclical famines
          By creating planned famines?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            famine is not cyclical when its continuous, yet another monthly report to central planners stating all the production quotas have been met and surpassed, rejoice, workers!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the soviets fricked themselves by being honest about the fact that they wanted to start a global revolution, that made nobody want to help them, and the russian system they inherited was historically flush with grain to sell to global markets, which they kept trying to do despite no longer having surpluses. but the world was on the gold standard at that point so they had few choices if they wanted to keep their gold reserves

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the soviets fricked themselves by being honest about the fact that they wanted to start a global revolution, that made nobody want to help them,
                Except US build industry for commies no problem. USSR went into isolation after WWII.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that was during the great depression, which was largely due to lack of demand, so even though america hated commies they had plenty of shit to sell to them

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >USSR went into isolation after WWII.
                the place changed from workers paradise to a shithole in blink of an eye in 1930s

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Affordable housing
          which most western nations had until recently
          >free education
          again something most western nations has and is objectively of better quality
          >ending cyclical famines
          don't you mean starting them?
          >and other insignificant shit like that
          so practically nothing, gotcha

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Affordable housing, free education, correct.
          Ending famine incorrect. At least they were able to buy food from the West. They had my exes male family members to go Kazakhstan during their conscription and summer breaks in grade school to farm in order to distill "discipline". In reality they were in need of almost free labor to harvest as much as possible. Everyone else had fairly normal jobs. The farming sector was panicking.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >affordable housing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        early MLRS and plant grafts off the top of my head

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah frickloads. Huge amounts in medical science alone. Pretty amazing stuff in terms of computer programming for the time

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Huge amounts in medical science alone
          Name ten most used medical drugs made by Soviets.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            krokodil

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Novichok

            guess that accidentally made this shitty thread /k/ related

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            off the top of my head:
            the ussr developed phenylpiracetam (top-tier nootropic)
            the ussr developed phage therapy for some reason. bacteriophages are very targeted (a given type of phage only targets a few types of bacteria, unlike antibiotics, which tend to work against many different types), so they probably had more than 10 varieties

            this article might be a further lead if you're interested https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,937542,00.html

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >medical science
          Killing people with ricin, polonium isn't medical science.
          Smuggling Bayer® drugs isn't medical science, neither copying 60 yo drugs or selling your own people as guinea pigs to capitalistic corporations.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ekranoplan

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        off the top of my head:
        the sattelite
        manned space flight
        moon rovers
        space stations
        probability theory with axioms
        good tanks (featuring composite armor, smoothbore main gun, era, autoloader)
        good a2a missiles
        supersonic passenger planes (the tu-144)
        the destruction of nazi germany
        abortion as a right
        free higher education (it's very plausible but i'm not 100 percent sure)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >manned space flight
          Manned space flight is simply a refinement of putting any creature into space with an artificial life support system to keep it alive.
          And the US got there first, launching fruit flies into space in 1947 and recovering them alive.
          I bet if I check the rest of the list it's the same story.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that's pretty cool. however:
            1. i doubt that the ussr would have been able to steal anything important related to the american fruit fly carrier
            2. keeping a human alive is a lot harder than keeping fruit flies alive

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I thought you might squeal like that, so I went ahead and looked up who put the first higher order animal in space, it was the US again a rhesus monkey called Albert in 1949. Two years before Laika.
              Eat shit, tankie.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So how about space station and moon rover? Soviets really did build the first space station, unless you got a rebuttal for that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everything the Soviets did in space besides the Venus missions were rushed and gave almost no benefit beyond the USSR getting in the books as first. The first US missions gave invaluable data that actually furthered scientific fields.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >satellite
          Sputnik was a radio beeper and nothing else. Performed literally no science mission. Explorer 1, on the other hand, discovered the Van Allen belts, and served as a useful instrument for 4 months until the battery died.

          Sputnik was also in a shitty, super low orbit. Barely made it two months in space before it got de-orbited by atmospheric drag lol. Explorer was up there for 12 years.

          Similar theme for their other space "firsts." They'd rush through some hackney bullshit that doesn't do anything other than check the block of being first while having absolutely zero follow-up. Meanwhile the US follows closely behind with an actualized mission plan done right.

          off the top of my head:
          the ussr developed phenylpiracetam (top-tier nootropic)
          the ussr developed phage therapy for some reason. bacteriophages are very targeted (a given type of phage only targets a few types of bacteria, unlike antibiotics, which tend to work against many different types), so they probably had more than 10 varieties

          this article might be a further lead if you're interested https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,937542,00.html

          >phage therapy
          Developed by a Frenchman and then laid aside after effective bacterial chemotherapy was discovered. The Russians did so little with phage therapy, that most of the current research is just doing basic, controlled experiments.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >free higher education

          >free education
          Did soviet teachers work for free? Publishers making textbooks? Construction workers building schools and universities?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >free education
            Did soviet teachers work for free? Publishers making textbooks? Construction workers building schools and universities?

            obviously "free" does not mean "materialized out of thin air". take dewormer for your brain before it's too late

            https://i.imgur.com/mZZSO2I.jpeg

            >satellite
            Sputnik was a radio beeper and nothing else. Performed literally no science mission. Explorer 1, on the other hand, discovered the Van Allen belts, and served as a useful instrument for 4 months until the battery died.

            Sputnik was also in a shitty, super low orbit. Barely made it two months in space before it got de-orbited by atmospheric drag lol. Explorer was up there for 12 years.

            Similar theme for their other space "firsts." They'd rush through some hackney bullshit that doesn't do anything other than check the block of being first while having absolutely zero follow-up. Meanwhile the US follows closely behind with an actualized mission plan done right.

            [...]
            >phage therapy
            Developed by a Frenchman and then laid aside after effective bacterial chemotherapy was discovered. The Russians did so little with phage therapy, that most of the current research is just doing basic, controlled experiments.

            >b-but the sattelite sucked
            cope, sputnik 2 launched and took telemetry data before america tried to launch vanguard into space.

            Affordable housing, free education, correct.
            Ending famine incorrect. At least they were able to buy food from the West. They had my exes male family members to go Kazakhstan during their conscription and summer breaks in grade school to farm in order to distill "discipline". In reality they were in need of almost free labor to harvest as much as possible. Everyone else had fairly normal jobs. The farming sector was panicking.

            homie that's nuts. I know plenty of people who grew up in the ussr in the 70s and 80s and they never mentioned anything like that, so i'm curious to see what their story was (where they were from and what the time period was)

            Didn't the Soviets have good rocket engines?

            yeah but this gets lumped in with their space exploration stuff

            >Affordable housing
            which most western nations had until recently
            >free education
            again something most western nations has and is objectively of better quality
            >ending cyclical famines
            don't you mean starting them?
            >and other insignificant shit like that
            so practically nothing, gotcha

            >2
            only in some parts of western / nordic europe iirc. in america, unis cost an arm and a leg to attend and expensive private schools are commonplace
            >3
            nah, famines did indeed end under the ussr. collective farms worked and so did the policy of distributing tractors to them

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >"""free""" education
              >juts kidding its not free, just false advertising
              many such cases.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Surely the famine thing is bait? There's no way you think the 1932 famine never happened right? Also if you know the history of the USSR surely you wouldn't overlook the 1973 grain purchase from the US?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >supersonic passenger planes (the tu-144)
          It was pretty shit compared to the Concorde and was done almost solely for bragging rights, much like the entire soviet space program.

          [...]
          obviously "free" does not mean "materialized out of thin air". take dewormer for your brain before it's too late
          [...]
          >b-but the sattelite sucked
          cope, sputnik 2 launched and took telemetry data before america tried to launch vanguard into space.
          [...]
          homie that's nuts. I know plenty of people who grew up in the ussr in the 70s and 80s and they never mentioned anything like that, so i'm curious to see what their story was (where they were from and what the time period was)
          [...]
          yeah but this gets lumped in with their space exploration stuff
          [...]
          >2
          only in some parts of western / nordic europe iirc. in america, unis cost an arm and a leg to attend and expensive private schools are commonplace
          >3
          nah, famines did indeed end under the ussr. collective farms worked and so did the policy of distributing tractors to them

          >in america, unis cost an arm and a leg to attend and expensive private schools are commonplace
          Cheap community/technical colleges are also common in the US, but citizens are free to be stupid and rack up debt wherever they wish.
          >nah, famines did indeed end under the ussr.
          Sort of, if you ignore the one they deliberately caused as punishment.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It was pretty shit compared to the Concorde and was done almost solely for bragging rights, much like the entire soviet space program.
            Tu-144 was hilariously pointless and even anti-people project for USSR if you think about ait. Concorde ticket was about $1000 you cant really expect Tu-144 been cheaper. It makes its ticket cost 1500 rubles or about 7 month average salary. Who the frick can afford that in the country of working class? On the West it is clear: bourgeois exploitators of the working class, they can throw around such kind of money. But in USSR? It was hilariously pointless project if you think about cost implications.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It makes its ticket cost 1500 rubles or about 7 month average salary. Who the frick can afford that in the country of working class?
              A lot of people, actually. You are thinking in terms of a capitalist society, where money can be freely exchanged for goods of equivalent cost.
              USSR was plagued with deficits and prices were artificially manipulated. Your spending was limited not only by the amount of money your have, but by the amount of goods that are currently for sale and you, personally, are allowed to buy. It was not uncommon for people to simply be incapable of using up all their salary. By the time USSR collapsed, a lot of ordinary citizens had 10+ years of untouched earnings accumulated on their bank accounts.
              Spending some of it on a whim to fly a cool new plane is not that farfetched if there's no better use for the money.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >done for bragging rights like the space program
            glass houses shoudn't throw stones or something. how the ratio of genuine scientific value to propaganda varies from building space stations to landing on the moon is up to you.
            however, the beginnings of the space program had a much more practical purpose, which was advancing ICBM research
            >Cheap community/technical colleges are also common in the US
            please shut the frick up. CCs hand out certificates and associates degrees. getting a bachelors or a masters requires going to a university.
            paying out of the nose for college isn't even a capitalist failure but a uniquely american one.
            >famine of 1930-1933
            provably not caused by the ussr though. at most you can say "the ussr could have saved a lot of lives by responding to the famine better" which applies to all sorts of countries, especially if you can replace "famine" with "pandemic", "hurricane", "flood", "invasion", etc

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >provably not caused by the ussr though
              Directly caused by grain confiscations previous year

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not really. Once the Nazis died off they went back to famines every 10 years starting in 1971-1973. After that anyone intelligent bailed Russia and took inventions to the west. 1971-1973 really broke them. The famines wiped out the last Nazis who were elderly at the time.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        With Ground Effect Vehicles

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >shiter plane in every metrics
          >innovations

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's more like a flying boat/ship than a plane

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russians really do make the coolest helicopter cabins

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's an american helicopter

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Piasecki
      Poland is Rossia clay, so this still counts. Checkmate Anglo Sacksi

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >soviet morons btfo
      is there anything these homosexuals wont try to claim?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >before the Americans stole this twin-engine concept
    okay, vatnik

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/G15Qdo3.jpeg

      >first flight: 1945

      Mmmm

      Banan

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        monke look
        more curve
        more tasty

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/G15Qdo3.jpeg

      >first flight: 1945

      If I was an aerospace engineer, remaking this might be my pet passion project.
      But there would be a few other contenders... Henschel-132, or Heinkel Lerche.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russian Yakovlev Yak-24 “Loshad" (1952)

    How long before we see it at the front?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why aren't there more twin rotors?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because boeing-vertol?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wdm?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I love you, Valor-chan!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they better put some kind of guard over that open transmission area, wouldn't even need an rpg to knock out an engine if it stays that open

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    horse is a stupid name for a helicopter they deserved it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. It could take twenty men at one time, so an appropriate name should have been given. For instance, Your Mother.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd just call this grotesque assembly "plank."
      And then the pretentious Russoid commentators could have reminisced in writing about how, "we balanced cannons on gangplanks," meaning they brought D-30's to hilltop firebases in Afghanistan or w/e.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Focke-Wulf Fw 61
    1936
    two powered rotors, just one engine tho.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that is an auto-gyro the rotors are powered at the pilot's discretion

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That one is the first working helicopter, rotors are powered

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2 rotor big heli?
    guess who did it first, as usual...

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't the Soviets have good rocket engines?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Americans stole
    >another tankie seethe thread
    So how exactly Americans prevented commies from making one? By being more successful and actually doing stuff they somehow disadvantaged them? Well that's what you get when you put people who want to do stuff in Gulads and leave only the obedient sheep that barely want to cover their basic needs.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >kartveli
    >seversky
    >sikorsky
    p-47 and blackhawk are russian *~~)

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only people that are unironically communists are jobless losers who want to destroy the system so they can create a system that favors them

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