Russian Strategic Bombing isn't looking to good.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russias-secretive-long-range-bomber-operations-against-ukraine

>On March 26, Russian strategic bombers launched cruise missiles against a military training ground in Yavoriv in western Ukraine, just 10 miles from the Polish border.
>The same base had already been struck by Russian air-launched cruise missiles two weeks earlier, on March 13, when Russian strategic bombers launched around 30 cruise missiles against it, most of which reportedly failed to reach their target.

>Aside from a few Kh-59 missile attacks by Su-34 Fullback strike aircraft or Su-35S Flanker fighters, air-launched strikes against targets deep in Ukraine are performed only by Russian long-range bomber aircraft.
>They use cruise missiles launched from over the territory of Russia or Belarus, or from over the Caspian Sea or the Sea of Azov.

>The only conventional armament now available to these bombers is the Kh-101 (known to NATO as the AS-23A Kodiak) cruise missile.
>Recently, the use of Kh-101 missiles in Ukraine has also become rarer, which may mean that their stocks are close to exhaustion and the Russians are saving these missiles for particularly important targets.
>According to the author’s calculations, there are fewer than 100 of the Kh-101 missiles left in stock, and their production rate does not exceed three to four per month.

>For targets deep inside Ukraine, the Tu-22M3s attack using heavy Kh-22M, Kh-22N, or the newer Kh-32 supersonic anti-ship missiles.

>Russian military aviation activities during Ukrainian Independence Day on August 24 were significant. According to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, the Russian Aerospace Forces conducted 200 missions that day.
> Two hundred daily missions were typical for Russian military aviation at the beginning of this war, but now the average is 60-70.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >secretive
    I thought this was common knowledge since the beginning, even down to the dwindling supply of guided munitions

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well besides every vatnik that kept repeating the "Russia running out of ammo" line every time they use four missiles on a target, as if it made all the difference when only one of them even hit anything let alone something important.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >secretive
      >I thought
      Amerimutt stenographers have templates and checklists how to refer to "things" in their propaganda. Its just the same script over and over again.

      There is literally no thought behind most of the words. All its meant to convey is " Russia bad because word bad".

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can't make people forget that you're a race of toddler rapists

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    mfw Iraqi Scud-Bs were more accurate than current risky cruise misiles

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *rusky

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Scud-B missiles were designed and built back when USSR had a healthy military industrial complex with young and educated workforce producing the world's best rocket engines.
      Nowadays it's just what's left of those same old farts. Barely any youth. It's a dying industry.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >healthy military industrial complex with young and educated
        kidnapped engineers from Hungary, Czechoslovakia and East Germany and Ukraine who could readily be extorted via their immediate family and children

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >A fucking Lancaster bomber with a radar signature the size of the moon 10 miles from the Polish border firing missiles is a secret.
    Christ, it's just like the time they had coal powered stealth aircraft carrier.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah they were using the missiles to hit that close, they likely barely even left Russia into Belarus.
      Standoff missiles on old bombers isn't that unusual.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What can we give the Ukrainians to bake these disease-ridden birds?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A Spitfire

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Airworthy 76
        Static Display 65
        Restoration / Stored 58
        Total 199
        Not unreasonable actually.

        I wonder if you could make a spitfire stealthy like a bayraktar.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the TB2 is stealthy mostly coincidentally. All the RAM in the world won't make a fuckhuge propeller powered by a 2000hp V12 stealthy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but, what if we could.
            It's not a should we, it's a can we sort of thing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >All the RAM in the world
            Radar absorption technology is in its infancy with massive untapped potential.
            Some far-off day in the future we might have warfighting vehicles that not only absorb all EM radiation thrown at them, but also utilize it as electrical energy instead of just waste heat.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Then all you have to do to detect them is look for the plane shaped hole in the background radiation

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The arms race between defensive and offensive measures will never end.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the TB2 is stealthy mostly coincidentally. All the RAM in the world won't make a fuckhuge propeller powered by a 2000hp V12 stealthy
            What transimensional reality did you pull those stats from?

            The TB2 used to use a Rotax 912:
            > The Rotax 912 is a horizontally-opposed four-cylinder, naturally aspirated, four-stroke
            > The original 80 hp (60 kW) 912 UL engine has a capacity of 1,211 cc

            Oh, I see, you mistook displacement for horsepower. Rookie mistake.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              its my absolute favorite shit if someone is so confident and smug, than it turns out he is just wrong

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the TB2 is stealthy mostly coincidentally.
            It isn't coincidence. It is fairly small aircraft made mostly from composites with pusher propeller. Twin tail boom as bonus partially covers that tiny propeller.
            >All the RAM in the world won't make a fuckhuge propeller powered by a 2000hp V12 stealthy
            I don't think there are that many around 2000hp Spitfires around. Merlin powered versions were always considered more iconic. So most of the surviving airworthy Griffon powered variants have been converted to Merlin, with way less power. Ironically probably most common airworthy Spitfire is a late Griffon powered model that has been converted into fake Merlin powered version. Genuine Merlin powered models still around are likely less common than conversions from Griffon models. Relatively few of airworthy late Griffon powered models surviving are in their original configuration with original engines and five bladed propellers.

            >the TB2 is stealthy mostly coincidentally. All the RAM in the world won't make a fuckhuge propeller powered by a 2000hp V12 stealthy
            What transimensional reality did you pull those stats from?

            The TB2 used to use a Rotax 912:
            > The Rotax 912 is a horizontally-opposed four-cylinder, naturally aspirated, four-stroke
            > The original 80 hp (60 kW) 912 UL engine has a capacity of 1,211 cc

            Oh, I see, you mistook displacement for horsepower. Rookie mistake.

            What do you think final Spitfire variants were powered with? Rolls-Royce Griffon 65 a V12, with capacity of 36700 cc, two stage supercharger with intercooler and power output of 2050hp.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Best plane F-16 should do it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Airstrikes using Kh-22/Kh-32 missiles were fairly common in the second half of June, when, according to Ukrainian sources, Ukraine was hit by 200 such missiles (before that, since April, the Russians had fired several dozen of them).

    >The problem with the Kh-22 and, to a lesser extent, the Kh-32 missiles, is their low accuracy. These are anti-ship missiles and have active radar seekers designed to home in on an objective with a big radar signature.

    >When firing such a missile over land, it is impossible to know whether it will hit the roof of an industrial plant or the roof of a shopping center, which happened on June 27 in Kremenchuk.

    >The stocks of Kh-22 missiles remaining from the Soviet era are large, and the shelf life of these weapons is coming to an end. Cynically speaking, it is cheaper to fire them into Ukraine than to dispose of them.

    >On August 21, Russian Minister of Defense Sergei Shoygu said that Kinzhal was used three times in Ukraine and that “three times showed its brilliant characteristics, which no other similar missile in the world has”. If that is true, it begs the question of why this weapon has been used so rarely.

    >The appearance of wreckage from Russian weapons in Ukraine has confirmed what was already known earlier: they contain many foreign electronic components. Such items were found, for example, in the guidance system (the SN-99 satellite navigation receiver) used by the Kh-101 missiles that fell on Ukrainian territory.
    >In the Barnaul-T air defense command post vehicle, for example, Ukraine intelligence said its specialists found eight microchips ... in its communications systems.
    >Ukrainian specialists also found five U.S.-made chips ... in the direction finder of a Pantsir air defense system.
    >There were at least 35 U.S.-made chips found in the Kh-101 cruise missile.
    >When they opened up the turreted electro-optical system of the Ka-52 Alligator, Ukraine specialists found 22 U.S.-made chips .

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The origin of the microchips found in these Russian weapons is unclear. These chips would not necessarily have to have been sourced directly from the manufacturers.
      >Also, there is a massive and largely unregulated market for recycled chips, largely emanating from China, and many of them appear to be quite old.

      >The Ukrainian military claims that the guidance systems and electronics recovered from Russian Kh-101 air-launched cruise missiles used in Ukraine were developed in the 1960-1970s.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The origin of the microchips found in these Russian weapons is unclear. These chips would not necessarily have to have been sourced directly from the manufacturers.
      >Also, there is a massive and largely unregulated market for recycled chips, largely emanating from China, and many of them appear to be quite old.

      >The Ukrainian military claims that the guidance systems and electronics recovered from Russian Kh-101 air-launched cruise missiles used in Ukraine were developed in the 1960-1970s.

      Add these reports to the analysis RUSI did on foreign electronics in Russian equipment. Apparently almost all parts of the Orlan drones are foreign made (allegedly)
      https://static.rusi.org/RUSI-Silicon-Lifeline-final-updated-web_0.pdf

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russians are saving these missiles for particularly important targets
    Russia unironically saving its OP items for "later" in the game, lol

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do vatniks cope lol? The US slings fuckin’ tomahawks out of subs, surface vessels, bombers, and even fighters. And soon those tomahawks will be JASSM-ER’s and LRASM’s with artificial intelligence guiding them in from hundreds of kilometers away undetected all while they suck up ELINT and spit it back to guys jerking off in AWACS or F-35’s on the other side of the globe. It’s sad that russoid missiles have a pK in the single digits.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      doesn't the US have a tomahawk-slingin' truck that is pretty much finished as well?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        HIMARS surface-surface rocket tech currently crushing Russia:
        >GMLRS (57 mi range)
        >ATACMS (100-190 mi range)

        HIMARS upgrades imminent:
        >ER GRMLS (93+ miles)
        >PrSM (300+ mi range)

        Russians can't even counter Excalibur artillery rounds. They are completely outclassed, on land, in the air, at range. Pathetic.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Russians can't even counter Excalibur artillery rounds
          How do you counter an artillery round? Isn't it travelling too fast? I know BONUS/SMART parachute and fly slowly for a bit but I thought excalibur was different

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Americans can simply use Phalanx C-RAM. Russians counter by relying on having more, larger artillery already in range. Excalibur rounds are too accurate at range for Russians to consistently hit back.

            Zoopark-1 or Aistyonok counter battery radars detect incoming ballistic fire. From there the Russian must:
            A) shoot down the incoming rounds/rockets while in the air
            >Pantsir, tunguskas, sosnas are all missile-based anti-air/ballistic/drone systems, C-RAM "area" bullet spam is best suited for artillery, but Russian variants are either woefully underdeveloped or oversized and reserved for Russian ships. gps guided arty shells are too small to consistently defend
            B) shell the position where the rounds came from
            >But current Russian countermeasures (guided missiles, unguided artillery) are unable to respond quick enough, or return fire accurately at the required range.
            C) move/rely on inaccurate mortar/artillery fire at extreme ranges.
            >Because Excalibur is so accurate, every single round must be defended against. If the shots are staggered parabolically, and arriving at the same time, there is no chance Russia can even spam enough missiles to stop every round.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thanks for the detailed response

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                C-RAM minimizes damage, but can't handle large-scale attacks. Counter-battery, or preemptive, strikes are the only real effective method for dealing with artillery. The US simply has massive advantages in that area.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            check out rheinmetall mantis on youtube

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Toyota slinging tomahawk, fund it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's called Nemesis, and shoots NSMs, not Tomahawks. Tomahawks are late-80s tech bruh.

        Toyota slinging tomahawk, fund it.

        Theoretically, that's Space Battleship Yamato

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tu-95 & Tu-160 can't drop free fall bombs. What were the Soviets thinking.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thinking
      lel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't think it would help here. These bombers fire their ordnance far away from Ukrainian territory. They'd get slaughtered if they flew in range of AA.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They can

      >>60-70 daily "long range bomber" missions
      >where the fuck are the results
      Pisky, Mariupol,severodonetsk, the Azov Steelworks and other wiped out settlements that Russia bravely bombed out of existence etc etc. Yet watch the Russians wail and cry like the hypocrites they are when a shell lands on belagrod.

      >watch the Russians wail and cry like the hypocrites they are
      For the purpose of propaganda, Russian apologists adopt a kind of absolutist deontological ethical position, i.e. it doesn't matter if they bombed 1 million civilians, if the other side harms 1 civilian in return, they're EQUALLY at fault

      That's why you can easily spot a vatnik by their retarded "both sides" and "what about" arguments.

      >production rate does not exceed three to four per month.
      Jesus Christ, do they make these things by hand? Where's the industrial might of the Soviet Union?

      Cruise missiles are expensive. The US makes something like 1,000 cruise missiles a year. They have a budget 10-20 times anyone else's (except perhaps China). That means everyone else can only afford 50-100 cruise missiles each, per year, spread across all models. This includes Russia.

      Three or four a month isn't bad actually.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In case anyone is confused by media code words: any statement that is attributed to "Ukraine", "Ukrainian sources", "Ukrainian officials". "Knowledgeable Ukrainian" etc and so on means it’s a bald-faced lie or so heavily exaggerated it’s essentially a lie. MSN is very sensitive to being fact-checked so they will always be sure to qualify something they know or suspect to be a lie by clearly indicating it’s according to Ukrainian sources.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know. The alternative means the the Russians are choosing some really stupid targets deliberately

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when that blogger broke into a Russian missile factory and the place was a total shithole?

    https://lana-sator.livejournal.com/160176.html#cutid1

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >60-70 daily "long range bomber" missions
    where the fuck are the results

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not paraded in social media

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Not paraded in social media
        meaning they're useless terror strikes against civilians

        post kharkiv status

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, exactly. Or more like the crews don't even fly the missions as instructed because morale is what it is and hey don't have air superiority over Ukraine. But there's bound to be some ukie fields that they've successully bombed. Military targets? lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Military targets? lol
            this is really interesting.

            Russian military targets get assblasted... social media is flooded with videos of the aftermath. Usually Russian sources posting videos from Russian people.

            I haven't seen NEARLY as many Ukrainian infrastructure being destroyed on social media, save for civvie shit. I don't see the same social media "oh fuck theres a big explosion in the military base over there" as I do from the Russian side.

            Is Ukraine and Ukrainians really better at OPSEC and hiding these disasters or are they simply hitting nothing important?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There is the thing with banning footage of the results of strikes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There is the thing with banning footage of the results of strikes.
                Mariupol hospital airstrike? Russia just outright lies, lies,lies
                On 9 March 2022, the Russian Air Force bombed Maternity Hospital No 3, a hospital complex functioning both as a children's hospital and maternity ward in Mariupol, Ukraine, during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, killing at least four people and injuring at least sixteen, and leading to at least one stillbirth. On 10 March, the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defence claimed that bombing of the hospital was justified by the supposed presence of Ukrainian armed forces at Mariupol Maternity Hospital No 1, as stated by Russian UN representative Vasily Nebenzya earlier, on 7 March. Several media organizations dismissed the Russian claims as false.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I thought that was just for the advance of Ukraine lately

                https://i.imgur.com/SR3YblL.png

                >>60-70 daily "long range bomber" missions
                >where the fuck are the results
                Pisky, Mariupol,severodonetsk, the Azov Steelworks and other wiped out settlements that Russia bravely bombed out of existence etc etc. Yet watch the Russians wail and cry like the hypocrites they are when a shell lands on belagrod.

                >bravely bombed out of existence
                yet strategically achieved absolutely nothing is my point

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              To add to that, name one Ukrainian airport that got blasted. Where's the video? Pics? Witnesses talking to reporters? Anything? Satellite images?

              I've literally been searching for reports of Russian strikes on Ukrainian air fields. No report anywhere that's been confirmed by anything or anyone (Kremlin State TV doesn't count, unless backed up by credible reports). No Ukrainian planes wrecked on the ground anywhere. From near the very beginning of the war, there was one airfield that took fire, and something like two Russian missiles hit part of a runway while ~30 (or 50?) more missed anything at all and made holes in empty fields.

              No PoSec is THAT good.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In ww2 there was a newspaper article about how the Japanese depth charges didn't work. The Japanese read the article and fixed them. Even if a russian missile hits the grass of an airfield its best not to say anything.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, as I tried to say if it wasn't for a retarded typo, No OpSec is THAT good. I agree with what you're saying, but if Russians were hitting Ukrainian airfields (plural) and they were doing it even half as often as they claim, there would be something giving at least some of it away. "Most" of it *could* be suppressed (with enough effort), but not 100%. Even Russia has zero evidence of anything, just random lies typed into the Internet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Worse: IIRC it was some congressman who bragged about the diving depth of US subs. The depth charges worked fine. They weren't set at the right depth.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ukraine is dominating the information space in the west. We'll probably see more footage after this war is over and Russia goes back to sleep.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>60-70 daily "long range bomber" missions
      >where the fuck are the results
      Pisky, Mariupol,severodonetsk, the Azov Steelworks and other wiped out settlements that Russia bravely bombed out of existence etc etc. Yet watch the Russians wail and cry like the hypocrites they are when a shell lands on belagrod.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Russians ow the Ukrainians one Maternity hospital full of pregnant women. Shame that the Ukrainians are too decent to claim it. They are not at the complete scumbag level of Russians

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do it again.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/OtrtUAz.jpg

            God, Given how upset Russians have gotten over strikes in Russia and Crimea I can only imagine how unhinged they'll become when Ukrainians start attacking Belgorod in earnest.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's gonna be fun when the Russians have nothing left but Crimea and the Ukrainians are shelling the entire border.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Capturing Belgorod might actually bring Russia to the negotiating table for a trade-off.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/ymr3nIF.jpg

            Do it again.

            The Russians ow the Ukrainians one Maternity hospital full of pregnant women. Shame that the Ukrainians are too decent to claim it. They are not at the complete scumbag level of Russians

            https://i.imgur.com/SR3YblL.png

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did you miss the mall the Russians blew up a while back? The Russians didn't. Miss it, I mean. They hit it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        65 daily bomber missions avg
        200 days of Putin's 3-day war
        13000 total bomber missions
        ONE (1) mall

        And the missile hitting this particular civilian target wasn't even launched from a bear!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Makes UAmaps put a lot of bomb icons on open fields and barns and makes their map slower to load.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i think that includes patrolling boarders, and gathering intel.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, that's just long-range bombers. The total # daily sorties for their air force is ~200.

        And they SHOULD be achieving 1000-1200 daily sorties with the number of aircraft they have dedicated to this farce

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every single Z wearing Russian deserves to have at least one of their family die, a loved one, a child, wife, husband, someone close. Then you can let them go through the hell of bereavement for a year before they are liquidated. Then a year later both graves can be vandalised. I am a moderate.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Every single Z wearing Russian deserves to have at least one of their family die, a loved one, a child, wife, husband, someone close. Then you can let them go through the hell of bereavement for a year before they are liquidated. Then a year later both graves can be vandalised. I am a moderate.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I am a moderate
      barely better than a fucking fifth columnist. I want every single Male russian dead, and every single male offspring from russian females aborted for the next 200 years. Perhaps that will be enough to eradicate that whole race

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i am moderate

      Please gib pasta

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >at least one
      I am more moderate than you are
      It should be all of their family. In front of their eyes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      140 million vatmorons nailed on burning crosses simultaneously from Petersburg to Vladivostok

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's a huge fucking waste of their full potential.

        We should turn vatniks into biofuel.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >production rate does not exceed three to four per month.
    Jesus Christ, do they make these things by hand? Where's the industrial might of the Soviet Union?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Long dead. Communism fueled all of the USSR's economic output, and by that I mean the production quotas. Everyone was paid the same, but everyone was also pressured to outdo their previous production output for various rewards. The end result was that so much coal was produced that the power plants could not use it all, and the trains had to be sent back to the mines half-full. Very productive, but very stupid.

      Now that's all gone. Nobody cares about overworking themselves for the state anymore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The end result was that so much coal was produced that the power plants could not use it all, and the trains had to be sent back to the mines half-full
        That's the result of their whole "planned economy" thing not working as well as expected. It really wasn't about anyone overworking themselves. Turns out manually microing all production instead of letting supply and demand adjust it automatically just isn't feasible.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe it is possible but we can conclude that certainly 20th century Russians couldn’t manage it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Turns out manually microing all production instead of letting supply and demand adjust it automatically just isn't feasible
          this is definitely not the case anymore with 21st century software, central planning is fully feasible just against vested interests. what we have now is a very slow incremental transition to central planning

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah no.
            In the 21st century you can see bug firms lose competition against small all the time. While in theoretical land of perfected micromanagement they should win every time. Read about X Inefficiency

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the industrial might of the soviet union was every other SSR than russia. russia just leeched of every other country

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We just did one for you friend. he asked us to end it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Top tier movie

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate Z wearing Russians more than Russian soldiers. I would never give a Z wearing Russian a clean death.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >For targets deep inside Ukraine, the Tu-22M3s attack using heavy Kh-22M, Kh-22N, or the newer Kh-32 supersonic anti-ship missiles.
    I remember armatard saying these would annihilate CSGs

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The bears launch their missiles far away from Ukraine, over the Black sea or way back inland. Too far away to get BUK broken. One can only dream.

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