Russian attempt to capture Kharkiv confirmed. They say they don't want to try, which all but assures they will.

Russian attempt to capture Kharkiv confirmed. They say they don't want to try, which all but assures they will.

What new weapons and tactics does Russia have that will help them succeed where they failed before? Will turtle tanks and the flexibility of kart offensives help them succeed where they failed before? Will greater artillery supremacy and glide bombs pave the way?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    verification not required

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What a wasteful nation

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      xaxaxa natasha can just give birth to moar tank >:)

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Muh buffer zone
    So they're finally officially stating the cope? Would actually capturing Kharkiv even create a significant buffer zone between the Ruskies and Ukes?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Perhaps, but boots on the ground say there's not enough ziggers to make it to Kharkiv, maybe not even capture Vovchansk now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's even funnier considering the entirety of Ukraine was supposed to be a buffer zone against NATO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They have less of a buffer zone then ever before considering what countries joined NATO over this whole invasion

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/9dS7DlX.gif

      A buffer zone from what? Wasn't there already one? And it wasn't an area being shelled to begin with anyway?

      I literally can't keep up with Zigger logic at all anymore

      This is Putin attempting to cover his own ass in case the offensive falls apart (which it certainly will)

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >They say they don't want to try, which all but assures they will.
    They cant. For real. They would need half a million troops. Kharkiv is almos 2 MILLION people
    Bakhmut took almost a year, = 70,000 people town
    avdiivka took years = 40,000 people town

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They couldn't even at the start of the war when they had fresh equipment and contract soldiers. The were beaten out by traffic cops and local weekend warrior national guard units with a handful of western ATGMs. Now they've got dirt bikes, golf carts, Su-100 obr. 2024, and pre-cubed mobiks. Their numbers are pretty similar to the start of the war (about 50,000 stretching all the way up to Sumy)
      To put it into perspective this was how much ground was taken on the 1st day of the invasion...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ...and this is how much ground taken after nearly 7 days of this offensive

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Even Binkov says that Russia can't capture Kharkiv.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So it sounds like if they can't
    >feh we never wanted it
    And if they do somehow manage
    >Xaxax we are greatest

    What's the likelihood of French boots getting involved, on a semi unrelated note

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    None. They never wanted Kharkiv anyway, especially after they ground to a halt a few miles from the border. Buffer zone is a fancy cope for the fact their offensive capabilities are so seriously attrited that grinding out 1-2km/day on tiny sections of front right next to their border or territory they've controlled since 2014 at the cost of 1 mobik/m is treated as some sort of grand victory. Once the aid packages start arriving in earnest even that will slip from their grasp and we'll see bakhmut level casualties of 5-10 mobiks/m. They will die and it will be good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      When DO the aid packages come in?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Couldn't find an English speaking source on this so have this instead.
        https://www.novinky.cz/clanek/valka-na-ukrajine-ukrajinci-uz-dostavaji-americkou-pomoc-40471596
        I found out that foreign news sources can offer a different perspective on stuff. Norwegian media reports are a bit aggresively at the throat of Russia. Finnish present the info about Russia raw, don't censor any swear words Ruskies used to call domeone. Italian condemn this war but are not as aggresive abot it as say the Norwegians are.

        This knowledge gas been brought to me by the Google auto-translator, so if anyone here is a native speaker, please correct me.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A buffer zone from what? Wasn't there already one? And it wasn't an area being shelled to begin with anyway?

    I literally can't keep up with Zigger logic at all anymore

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Monke wants to stop the Ukros from raiding Belgorod again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        B-but russian media said all raid parties were successfully destroyed...

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the last time the Russian volunteers raided Belgorod, Comical Igor and Shoigu both said they were all destroyed 7 times in total.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But those were Russians

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I literally can't keep up with Zigger logic at all anymore
      That is just vranyo, don't bother with their perspective. In Russia there are 'multiple truths', the official narative, common knowledge and the fantasy one. Yes the fantasy truth, don't think about it much.
      I think that the only reason you would want to practise this mindset of multiple truths is win arguments. Not to be right but to win the argument either by strawmaning, goalposting, making up shit, pointing at what the government says or pointing at the obvious depending on which one is more convenient.

      And it works, people get easily overwhelmed, can't argument well, are not very knowledgable about the subject etc.

      /k/ is a bit of an anomaly where vranyo doesn't work very well.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >/k/ is a bit of an anomaly where vranyo doesn't work very well.

        Because we've seen its horrific consequences secondhand, some of us firsthand even, and we continue to see them every time someone posts a drone drop video, an oil refinery going up in flames, a soldier of the "world's second army" wearing rags and being treated as something beneath that of a slave (slaves are actually worth money after all).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you for clarifying my post.
          By anomaly i meant that /k/ is the exception among other discusion forums like Facebook and other. Not that /k/ is resilient to vranyo due to something supernatral or something.
          Don't know if you meant to clarify this but thx for you contribution.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >That is just vranyo, don't bother with their perspective. In Russia there are 'multiple truths', the official narative, common knowledge and the fantasy one. Yes the fantasy truth, don't think about it much.

        It's not that you unique. You see it in appeals to "indigenous ways of knowing," and appeals for identity groups to "live their own truth," in the campus left in the West. And you see it as, if not more strongly on the right in guys like Nick Land, etc. but also in the whole Q, Trump worship sphere. As Gulliani said in defense of Trump once, "truth isn't truth," and there was "alternative facts," etc. The idea that the institutions of science can't be trusted because, ultimately, all truth claims go back to power relations, who is getting paid by who, etc. is extremely pervasive across the West and is peak post-modernism. The left was conciously dragged to post-modernism by an activist vanguard associated with the academy and related social institutions. The right just sort of slid into post-modernism by trying to ape the activist left. But the transition is complete now, post-modernism is now central to the right. Position papers on political movements no longer talk about "how do we get these facts out to people," but explicitly mention "deconstruction of narratives."

        Anti-realism vis-á-vis truth also comes from two angles in philosophy. On the analytic side, you had incompleteness, undefinablity, etc. come out. Failing to see a way they could formalize truth, analytics decided they had to declare it. Truth is just something stipulated in a "game," and is simply based on rules, which can be changed or adopted based on "pragmatic need." Continentals likewise spent most of the last century attacking (admittedly flawed) positivist conceptions of objectivity (objectivity approaches truth at the limit; the "view from nowhere) and talked themselves out of truth existing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >high IQ posting on PrepHole
          Fancy meeting a white person on here.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Both sides then move to "acting pragmatically," as the solution. This is hilarious when you consider that they both widely agree that the "Good," is something pretty much arbitrary and subjective. Something we decide with a sort of sui generis power of choice, or else just confused muddle because only atoms in the void are real.

          So we are to act pragmatically vis-á-vis truth, epistemology, etc., based on practical reason (i.e., our knowledge of the Good) but then the Good itself is an illusion or something we must also create "pragmatically."

          It's incoherent and it's no wonder people drop into despair or else become fanatics to some cause to try to give their lives meaning, hoping for le Boog to give them purpose.

          It's particularly sad because there is no reason to do this. Updates of the classical and medieval tradition can deal with these issues and maintain the existence and necessity of the Good, the Beautiful, and the True. But really this stuff is ignored, just historical treatments, outside the Catholic philosophy space. The Church is ironically the largest bastion of rationalism left in the world. Perhaps it was always meant to be this way, Christ is the Logos.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you for your effort post.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's not that unique in the same sense as how cheating and acting like buttholes in multiplayer games is unique, russians just excel compared to most others with it so much that it begins to stand out and become a unique thing for them.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Both sides then move to "acting pragmatically," as the solution. This is hilarious when you consider that they both widely agree that the "Good," is something pretty much arbitrary and subjective. Something we decide with a sort of sui generis power of choice, or else just confused muddle because only atoms in the void are real.

          So we are to act pragmatically vis-á-vis truth, epistemology, etc., based on practical reason (i.e., our knowledge of the Good) but then the Good itself is an illusion or something we must also create "pragmatically."

          It's incoherent and it's no wonder people drop into despair or else become fanatics to some cause to try to give their lives meaning, hoping for le Boog to give them purpose.

          It's particularly sad because there is no reason to do this. Updates of the classical and medieval tradition can deal with these issues and maintain the existence and necessity of the Good, the Beautiful, and the True. But really this stuff is ignored, just historical treatments, outside the Catholic philosophy space. The Church is ironically the largest bastion of rationalism left in the world. Perhaps it was always meant to be this way, Christ is the Logos.

          Hi IQ posts.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Nick Land
          >"multiple truths"
          That's at least one thing you got wrong. I wonder what else you slipped in.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The idea that the institutions of science can't be trusted because, ultimately, all truth claims go back to power relations, who is getting paid by who

          I mean, respected scientists used to endorse things like phrenology and racial eugenics. It's not THAT much of a stretch to suspect some of them might be wrong or even outright dishonest because of bigotry, ignorance, or being on someone else's payroll. They are after all, still only human.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >respected scientists used to endorse things like phrenology and racial eugenics
            Only because it endorsed by the Establishment

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Interestingly, phrenology has greater predictive power than modern psychological tests like Myers-Briggs. More quantifiable characteristics like general intelligence also map well with the old eugenicists' predictions.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Both sides then move to "acting pragmatically," as the solution. This is hilarious when you consider that they both widely agree that the "Good," is something pretty much arbitrary and subjective. Something we decide with a sort of sui generis power of choice, or else just confused muddle because only atoms in the void are real.

          So we are to act pragmatically vis-á-vis truth, epistemology, etc., based on practical reason (i.e., our knowledge of the Good) but then the Good itself is an illusion or something we must also create "pragmatically."

          It's incoherent and it's no wonder people drop into despair or else become fanatics to some cause to try to give their lives meaning, hoping for le Boog to give them purpose.

          It's particularly sad because there is no reason to do this. Updates of the classical and medieval tradition can deal with these issues and maintain the existence and necessity of the Good, the Beautiful, and the True. But really this stuff is ignored, just historical treatments, outside the Catholic philosophy space. The Church is ironically the largest bastion of rationalism left in the world. Perhaps it was always meant to be this way, Christ is the Logos.

          Lmao, this place really is redit now.
          You said frickall ya midwit pretentious homosexual.
          Fricking go back you triple Black person homosexual.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >visceral reaction against a simple post
            Telling.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nice filename homosexual

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >muh trump
          Not gonna bother reading the rest

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't manage to capture it back in the first month of the invasion with the element of surprise and their best soldiers and weapons available, they won't capture it now. They'll be lucky if this new offensive doesn't weaken them enough for Ukraine to push into Russia.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >we never wanted Kharkiv anyway

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The memes are becoming reality

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They clearly didn't plan to take it, them claiming that they did was just typical vatnik firehose of falsehood. Even in some fairy tale fantasy scenario of total, catastrophic collapse of Ukrainian lines on the scale not yet witnessed this war, they wouldn't be able to take a city of 1.5 million with fricking 50 thousand troops anyway.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    B-but nazi regime and liberation of Kharkiv from occupants...

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What new weapons and tactics does Russia have that will help them succeed where they failed before
    nooks

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/albafella1/status/1791401712424481149
    Everything is fricked [for us]. So we met the guys. They are the last ones [surviving]. There is no one ahead <..>. We lost the guys,” — the occupier from the 138th brigade, which is now “advancing” in the Kharkiv region, complains that cannon fodder is already running out.

    ziggers on zuicide watch. again.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe Russia should negotiate a 20km wide buffer state along the pre-2014 border and abandon the rest.

    NATO would be defeated.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ziggerbros, help me out here. I thought Kharkiv was forever Russian? Why is Vladimir Vladimirovich ceding Russian land to a genocidal judeo-national-socialist terrorist regime? Isn't that illegal according to the constitution? Will he have to be removed to put a real leader in charge?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Did the pickle man get acked yet?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Strelkov is still alive in prison, for the time being. His side piece sometimes posts stuff on his telegram channel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Strelkov is still alive in prison
          Yeah but what happened to Girkin?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Laying siege to a city.
    They could simply encircle it, cut off the roads, shoot down anything that flys, and wait for capitulation. Pic related.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If only they had a 40 km long convoy to pull it off.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon are you stupid, they couldn't even manage to get a convoy of forces to reach the capital right at the start of the war without running out of juice.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Encircle it. With just 50k troops? And that's assuming none of them would get killed during the process? Really homie?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like a job for the 4th Guards Tank Division

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They couldn't encircle Bahkmut or adviika.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I desire a buffer zone around moscow.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Around the Urals.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fr fr?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Capture Kharkiv? no no no, just banana zone!
    Monke moving the yellow line

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do any of the oldgays actually believe threads like this one are organic? Just look at it.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It was obvious from the start this was just to draw forces from Donbass, but Ztards who hyped up the fall of Kharkiv should be mocked for it anyway.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >invades kharkiv
    >stalls
    >"I didn't want it anyway"
    >refuses to elaborate
    >can't leave

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >2024
    >on year 3 of 3 day SMO
    We didn’t need Kharkiv

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kharkiv is, at its heart and soul, Russian, because so many of the citizens and soldiers fighting the Rusian army speak russian. So there isn't any real need to capture it.

      Check mate, HATO!

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Kharkiv is russia forever!

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >try to capture "russian" city with 5th column
    >fail
    >try again 8 years later with elite army units
    >fail
    >retreat behind the border and start terror bombing that city
    >enemy just terror bombing and raiding your border regions in response
    >try again 2 years later with not-so-elite army units
    >...
    >we never wanted it, its about buffer zone *~~)

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    didn't they annex the region that kharkiv is in?

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If they get within tube artillery range they can ruin it for everyone else. That's probably the goal they'll settle for.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To cut through the super-low IQs: Russia’s geopolitical goals:
    1. Secure the pipelines connecting Russia to Europe.
    2. Stop Ukraine from developing massive newly-discovered (10-12 years ago) energy reserves.
    The easiest and least risky way to accomplish achieve those goals is effecting a regime-change, hence the 2022 Kiev run. Russia turned out not to be capable of doing a direct regime-change. So what’s the next best way to accomplish the goals? Conduct a full-scale invasion in which Ukraine’s ability to defend its government is crushed and a regime-change is achieved "the hard way". Alternatively, capturing all pipeline territory which would also disrupt any energy reserve development program.

    If attacking Kharkiv would help achieve the destruction of the Ukrainian military and/or help collapse the government then they’ll do it. If they could achieve that by attacking elsewhere they’ll do that instead. Going by the Russia military budget spending Putin is fully committing to the war so I strongly doubt just being a hard target will stop Russia from attacking if doing would get them closer to achieving their strategic goals. Remember that those goals NOTHING to do with capturing Ukraine — just as capturing Afghanistan had nothing to do with US goals but it was done as a side-effect / consequence.

    Russia attacked Bakhmut because it represented the strongest concentration of Ukrainian fighting power on the front and Russia wanted to destroy it and also pin it down while building up defensive lines along the rest of the front. Last year the plan was to destroy the Ukrainian government’s ability to defend itself, and it appears as if that’s still the plan. Since news came out recently that defenses in the region were in a very poor / underdeveloped state it looks like the Ukrainians are scrambling to build up defenses now —so Kharkiv may in fact represent the next major concentration of Ukrainian fighting power Russia wants to pin / destroy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "We will define our goal as whatever it is we happen to achieve"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Remember that those goals NOTHING to do with capturing Ukraine
      You literally cannot achieve either of them without doing so at this point, though.

      >Russia attacked Bakhmut because it represented the strongest concentration of Ukrainian fighting power on the front
      It didn't, though.

      >Since news came out recently that defenses in the region were in a very poor / underdeveloped state
      You mean zigger propaganda takes came out claiming as much, all while the Russians haven't even reached the actual planned defense line in the region. The Ukrainians are yet again "scrambling" FORWARD because the russian assault has ground to a halt before even reaching their main line.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia attacked Bakhmut because it represented the strongest concentration of Ukrainian fighting power
      No, they pressured it because that is what their horrid logistics permitted.
      The Ukrainians came to be there after-the-fact as this side-effect. Not before.
      >so Kharkiv may in fact represent the next major concentration of Ukrainian fighting power Russia wants to pin / destroy.
      Russia has allocated 30k men + 20-30k reserve to displace ~5,000-7,500 Ukrainians solders (with ambiguous reserves). The Russians are also free to allocate more, which seems to be their current inclination.

      Russia will see most of that manpower destroyed, of course, but eventually successful is displacing several thousand Ukrainian solders some distance from the boarder. Perhaps a dozen kilometers, or two, or even three.

      That's the plan, that's the goal.
      Who cares if this ends in something like 25k dead 30k wounded by the end of it? Bakhmut had worse results and that's a "victory" as far as they're concerned.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bakhmut went much better than this is. They forced Ukraine to fight the way they wanted, a low tech, no maneuver, trench and arty based ww1 slog with high casualties on both sides. In Kharkiv ziggers are simply evaporating.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russia wants a lot of things. Benis :DDDDD

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The whole idea of a buffer zone is fricking stupid when everyone has long range drones and missiles these days

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have to remember that Putin is such a boomer that he refuses to use a computer’s with internet

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like the most recent offensive has been beaten

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-nato-general-says-russian-035412735.html

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, we were planning to create some buffer zone to prevent further Belgorod raids, you lost land, cope seethe.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cope
        See

        https://i.imgur.com/27OgSOH.jpeg

        ...and this is how much ground taken after nearly 7 days of this offensive

        There’s still plenty of space for raids to launch from

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Belgorod raids
        ???
        Russia has troops in Belgorod. Russia has troops at the border. They can keep any raiders away from Belgorod.
        WFT are you talking about?
        The offensive you are doing is to get Ukrainan troops from the Donetsk front away.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >you lost land
        And Kherson is Russia forever. Try again Sanjay.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Arrow posting

    Yes I know, I know... But!

    Would a quick incursion into Belgorod and then pivot down south in order to hit them in the rear, clear them out and then return back to Ukraine make sense? Maybe with decimating local infrastructure in order to avoid future offensives too. Don't think so much about the politics, I am just curious if it would make sense from a military perspective in order to stop this offensive.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Russians so far have sent 60% of their troops they massed for this offensive.
      These 60% have been sent in and the survivors rotated out. That is alot of men that can be still sent against this massive couter attack you are proposing.
      If you did this, thing you are proposing, you would do exactly what the Kremlin is hoping for. That is, pulling troops away from the Donetsk front, to stop this Russian offensive. Also now you would be attacking so you would loose the deffenders advantage. Also, also, the russians have a local supperiority there.
      It would be a disaster.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well The Russians north of Kharkiv would then be defending from one direction while attacking into another direction, with potential of being cut of from supply. I guess it would depend on the troop concentration and what Russia has in the areas bordering Sumy and around Belgograd. If it was very lightly defended because they are thinking Ukraine will never go into Russia proper, then a similar situation could happen as it did in Izium.

        I guess it also boils down to what reserves Ukraine has but it highlights the problem that Russia can attack from it's territory into whatever parts of Ukraine but Ukraine cannot do the same in order to off-balance this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The Russians north of Kharkiv would then be defending from one direction while attacking into another direction
          Or they could instead stop the attacking part and focus on deffending, at which point it would be impossible for Ukrainians to pull any sort of win there.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Russia can attack from it's territory into whatever parts of Ukraine but Ukraine cannot do the same in order to off-balance this.
          It's a defensive war, what did you expect? You don't win against a larger, more populous, richer country with deeper reserves by rushing out to meet them on their home territory, you trade at an advantage at home until they can no longer afford to meet you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone have a map of those totally-not-ukie border raids from earlier this year?

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Putin lies again
    Several reports of civilians being executed in the Russian captured hamlets.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a hot take, not even the Russians know what they're actually hoping to achieve now. They're just throwing shit at the wall and hoping that something sticks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Absolute zero take. That's been what they've been doing since 2023 after 2022 went up in flames.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To elaborate further, they're looking for a "big win" that will force Ukraine to accept some kind of concession that will allow them to keep at least some of their hard-fought gains. At the absolute minimum, they need some kind of victory to prevent morale and support for the war at home from completely collapsing. That's what Adviika and Bakhmut were about.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    there was no kharkiv offensive nafo troons, it was just a border strengthening operation

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >getting caught up in the info war
    Y'all a bunch of tards.

    Russian goal is to stretch the Ukranian line and attrite their forces prior to either a larger offensive later this summer or in the hopes of creating the conditions for a collapse. US aid doesn't fall from the sky, it will take a couple months for Ukraine to rebuild stockpiles and replace and refit worn out vehicles and catch up on losses, it will take a couple more months for Ukraine to increase its strength from the baseline it had at the end of last year. So lengthen their line, force them to commit reserves and hope you can inflict a collapse via attrition before the end of the year OR at the very least maintain momentum so Ukraine can't go onto the attack. It is kind of working Budanov said they had committed their last reserves.

    Also, yes, 100% a secondary aim of this offensive is to create a buffer to stop Russian Legion shenanigans in the Bolgorod region because thats a massive propaganda L for Putin every time it happens.

    Finally, pay attention to Sumi. If things keep happening there the Russians are planning on going there in the next phase. How do I know? First, shaping operations have been happening for a while and second everyone guessed the Russians had 100 000 men in the Bolgorod area and estimates are that only about 50 000 have been sent to the Kharkov area.

    Will the Russian scheme work? Idk probably not. Unless they have another 100K dudes massed someplace to exploit the line I doubt it. But is the lengthening of the line their strategic goal? Yeah, obviously. Are they desperately trying to stop the RL from border raids? 1000%.

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