>Bashkirs in the Russian army began to use horses at the front, Bashkir media report.
>Two horses Abzelil and Buyan are now involved in the detour of positions and the silent transportation of goods.
>“We can use shishigs (GAZ-66 truck) and ATVs. But with them there is a risk of being detected. And on horseback in the morning dawn, you can silently and imperceptibly deliver everything you need to combat positions. On two horses, this is about 200 kg. In the morning, you can make two flights," said the commander with the call sign Bashkir
https://t.me/stranaua/120381
Horses can be used during the mud months while trucks are stuck
>horses don't get stuck in mud
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No. Horses are no better at dealing with mud than humans are.
>
Well, just don't use them to pull cart and they will be find. I guees oxes would be more useful than horses, they can carry more stuff on their backs.
>Well, just don't use them to pull cart and they will be find
and you're basing that on what?
I don't think the other Anon appreciates just how large and heavy cows and horses are.
and how little surface area their little hooves have compare to tires
ATRAX NO
T.T y did I have to rember big bro
clearly it is overengineered kraut horse failing
More importantly for Russian mobiks they can be used for food and sexual satisfaction.
It's basically a self-delivering takeout order and a free prostitute on top of whatever other logistical needs they provide.
Do you think the average mobik is in good enough shape to survive a horse dicking?
Who knows, it's probably the least dangerous thing trying to penetrate a mobik in Ukraine.
>the horse anus is a marvel of revolutionary biology
God damn. Hell of a war.
Read, he says that he's using the horses for reasons that have nothing to do vehicles getting stuck.
>We can use shishigs (GAZ-66 truck) and ATVs. But with them there is a risk of being detected
They're stealth horses, apparently.
Which I would guess means, for example, offroading them through the woods somewhere in a place where the roads are dangerous.
Or maybe the drone operators are just too confused to drop grenades on a horse.
Are horses actually decent stealth technology? Assuming you can hide their IR signature somehow seems plausible I guess
They're big as shit and have an obvious silhouette, and that's without their huge fuck off hot breath blowing up every infrared sensor on range
>Are horses actually decent stealth technology?
Kind of.
Not from thermals obviously, see below, but for visual stealth, they'd be ok moving through wooded areas, quite hard to spot from a drone I think. Harder than a truck definitely.
>Assuming you can hide their IR signature somehow
You can't. They have significant thermal mass and if you insulated it somehow they'd overheat and die.
>You can't. They have significant thermal mass and if you insulated it somehow they'd overheat and die.
Can't we just get a small heat pump with liquid cooling of the horse?
Where will you put the radiator?
I can't think of a benefit besides being offroadable and not very big.
You can't even switch off their thermal signature when they're not in use.
If you're trying to sneak your military transport through an airport metal detector they might have an advantage.
They are relatively quiet (on natural surfaces, anyways) and allow you to move through dense canopied forests where you are less likely to be spotted via drone. Otherwise, not really.
They're big, slow and require a massive amount of feed to perform.
But if you're a gypsy who only needs the horse for 4h per day and can afford to leave it grazing otherwise, or you're a Moscow bureaucrat with no experience with horses, you might think they're a good idea.
exception - specialized breeds of horses and mules can be good in mountainous terrain where nothing else can carry stuff for you.
No. They're not even good in rough terrain because their legs have a bad tendency to explode. Bicycles or mules are superior.
>1.5 YEARS into SMO
>are horses good stealth technology?
I couldn't believe they actually invaded back in February, and I still can't believe how far they've sunk
I honestly think if you wanted a modern warfare pack animal (IR aside) you'd want something shorter and stickier. Have you ever stood next to a horse? They're pretty fucking big.
>Russian troops assaulting Ukraine during the mud season (colorized)
Check some historical photos of how well horses did when the Germans tried to invade Russia.
Hitler? Is that you?
have you ever even seen a fucking horse?
Horses have high ground pressure so no.
ARTAX!!
Didn't Kazakhstan gift them like 2000
I wonder how many have been eaten.
1998 evidently
How many were raped and now have HIV/AIDS?
>"Гocпoдин Pyки, ready for duty!"
Poor fucking animals, I mean the horses, not the Russians
The percentages are based on the initial invasion force, right? How did they determine which ships are part of the invasion? Is it basically just everything in the Black Sea?
Originally it was based on assumed invasion force, but at some point it switched over to the Russian military as a whole. Idk when exactly they made the change.
This. It used have a 1200 MBT estimate for teh Russian invasion force, then 3300 (generous actually) for Russian MBTs in service. Now they have destroyed all of them and 1100 Russian 'reserve' MBTs
The moment I was convinced the tank-loss statistics were close to accurate was when I saw the one, singular, T-34 tank at the head of the last Victory Day parade. If all Russia could spare for the most important event of the most important day commemorating the most important triumph in its modern history was THAT, even after multiple regions cancelling their celebrations and pivoting to a war footing, any false optimism should've been crushed from that point onward.
/this at that moment, i knew that those statistics were 100% correct.
Russia has had almost no running T-34s for a long time now. They've been importing them from countries like Laos, trading T-72s for them so they can use them in their parades.
T-34s will never see use in this war, no matter how much you meme it
>T-34s will never see use in this war, no matter how much you meme it
Making such statements have a tendency to backfire when it comes to this war.
>Trades 30 T-72s to Laos for 30 T-34s, only one still functioning for parade less than a year later
>Goes to Pyongyang begging
>Experiances the worst victory day parade mogging in human history
>North Korean parade has more T-34s than all of Russia
>Make same trade offer
>Kim laughs in your face because T-72s would be massive downgrade
>Trades dignity for a few expired grad rockets
Now imagine how many times this humilation repeated itself before they got that one working tank......That wasn't even made in Russia.
based NORKchads
Seriously imagine the humiliation having to compare that Parade to the Russian one, they must be desperate if they were willing to get shown up like that.
Note that the DPRK ran a huge number of previews about him being there on TV and made sure they showed him at the Russian parade, they even showed them afterwards with comparison shots of their own parade.
We're getting there, little by little
pls tell me that brown dust is just dit, not rust
I was hoping we'd see more than this one clip by now
>He says as Russia is caught dumping T-10s to use as pillboxes
because if Russia somehow runs out of T-10s they literally don't have any T-34s to deploy.
it's that simple, they don't have any.
no annon they have a dozen or so functional t-34's
they traded them 1 for 1 for t-72 with some eastern euro country for parade duty
those t-72 have since been donated to the ukies
that's literally all they have, and they won't deploy them as they need them for their parades.
It's not that they couldn't find a second tank capable of moving its treads in the entirety of Russia. No matter how fucked their tank situation gets they'll still be able to rustle up hundreds of hulls that are too broken to field for various reasons but are capable of getting new paint and driving forwards for 5 minutes. (Like the Armata on a good day).
It's that they have 0 desire to advertise "Look at all this military might we have, which we are using in a parade instead of giving it to the boys at the front". The most active dissidents in Russia right now are the nationalists who are furious the government isn't prosecuting the war harder. It's the sort of thing that resulted in the government nearly being couped while the military stood by. Parading military equipment in Moscow is no longer good public relations.
It's no different than why, on Ukraine's independence day last week, they didn't parade a bunch of new western equipment, even though they probably had plenty behind the lines that could have detoured to the capital for a few days. It would do nothing but invite criticism that they were pissing around with that equipment while the counteroffensive stalled. They paraded destroyed Russian shit instead.
So they could only field one lonely T34? They couldn't field any other T34s? I get what you're saying an agree on the PR side about not having a ton of modern equipment parading around Moscow but literally one T34 is kind of pathetic.
there's a reason we shoot our enemies, lest we feel pity for our invaders
Imagine telling someone in 2004 that 1.5 years of combat between Ukraine and Russia would result in the latter falling back to reconditioned T-54s for first echelon use
Aren't they using T-10s now?
I'm just glad the ukes are treating the POW's well
> On two horses, this is about 200 kg.
I really don’t know what to say. They aren’t even smart enough to hitch the horses to a wagon. I expect very little out of the Russians but somehow that’s still overestimating them.
I could see them travelling like that if the wagons they had couldn't reach the frontline positions, but I'm not sure how far 200kg of supplies will go, as this presumably includes food, ammo and everything else as well.
military pack animals are not typically hitched to a wagon. they're most often used for transporting loads over broken terrain where wagons wouldn't last long anyway.
western forces maintain ranches ("bases") for the purposes of raising horses & mules for mountain warfare units. US, UK, IT, DE, and PL have the most notable mounted jäger/ranger* activities. here's some pix.
*though in the case of the US, the animal husbandry specialisation itself is run largely through the marine corps.
Hell yeah, govt mules
(hell) yeah
>Look at you! You have HORSES. What were you thinking?
%27sWarStories
>lose first world war because can't match production capabilities of the world's largest economies and population starves
>do it again
He's got a point.
You should read up sometime on how hard it was for the USA to replace its horses. Basically the entire cavalry arm was lobbying against getting rid of them entirely
For Poland it was the same, horse cavalry was heavily adored and prohibitively expensive in upkeep
>You stupid fascist pigs
Fast forward several decades
Both sides need on the Spot Guidance, ya'll bros need some Juche!
>2023
>Oryx starts counting horse losses
Best timeline
horses arent equipment. they are fren
i hope they keep the horses away from the mobiks.
>the situation is bad but then it got even horse
take your (you) and get out, Carlos
>russians now truly regressing to their mongoloid origins
the world advances in terms of technology but russia only regresses.
it's like a cursed midas touch, everything you touch turns into a shithole.
Countries naturally adjust to the tastes their rulers. Putin's a neo-Tsarist, so Russia's simply being restored into an agrarian feudal state.
It's like an agrarian feudal state, but without the agrarian part.
They'll be Boys From Brazil cloning Lenin's corpse in no time for lack of ideas.
>Comrade Defense Minster, would you say things are going poorly in the SMO?
>Shoigu: Neigh.
damn, i dont want to see horses get droned
….isn’t that a race-horse? There’s no way those skinny midgets are carrying anything for war. Another joke thread?
Also you should all get off the computer and go to the races at least once in your lives. Only fags don’t like horses.
>Russians are now using churkas on horseback
Never thought I'd say this but based. Tengri is pleased. Post turco-mongol shit.
If horseback warfare was the new meta, Mongolia would unironically be donating them to Ukraine.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were a few Mongolians in the IL. Many of them might speak Russian and do business there but they hate Russia and don't at all long for the return of the Russian yoke.
They welcomed Russians at the start of the war but only to protect them from mobilisation to deny Russia soldiers and protect the anti-war Russians.
>The U.S. Army’s ‘Operation Donkey Haul’
>The first sign that “Operation Donkey Haul” might prove an, ahem, pain in the ass was a low, muttered, “Uh oh,” from the platoon’s interpreter, known to the Americans as “Z.” There were apparently two donkeys available for the job — a good one and a “sick” one, to use Z’s descriptor. Wouldn’t you know it: the handler showed up with the sick animal.
>So began a comedy of errors that demonstrated perfectly the challenges of conducting a high-tech, population-centric counter-insurgency campaign in the mountains with no power grid and limited resources. Tethered to a sled on which was placed the heavy generator, the protesting animal made it just halfway up the slope before its legs began to bow. The donkey planted its hooves in the rocky ground and refused to climb another inch.
>One donkey, even a healthy one, cannot haul a 300-pound load 1,000 feet up a 30-degree incline. But the Americans were professional soldiers trained on multimillion-dollar weapon systems. None knew the first thing about donkeys. “Halfway, half pay,” Z recommended. But in the interest of Army-Afghan relations, Coleman was inclined to pay the full fare to the donkey’s handler.
>“The donkey was a bad idea,” one soldier mused as he and five other soldiers grabbed the generator by its base and lifted. Gasping, grunting and sweating, the soldiers heaved the generator a few feet at a time, pausing frequently to rest. Stones, dislodged by the soldiers’ boots, rolled down the slope with a clatter. Relieved of its burden, the donkey placidly plodded along behind the straining Americans, accompanied by its bemused owner.
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-armys-operation-donkey-haul-774435061450
Mongolia maintain sovereignty by balancing China and Russia against each other. They don't have a position where they can get crazy with offending either.
donkeys are good boys. horses are shit, but of course not russian shit.
FINALLY, IT'S TIME
churkas gonna eat them, you know that right?
>Two horses Abzelil and Buyan
BREAKING NEWS --- Secretly filmed video of russian horses Abzelil and Buyan released by SBU!
Some say they learned much from their trainers and their daily activities around mobiks.
I know that homosexual behaviour is observed in basically all animal species where anyone has bothered looking for it but damn, that horse got a good anal dicking there.
And that horse dick is just like my polandball.
not my proudest fap
OH NO
>literally fucking an ass in the ass
Damn, that's nasty. Who's gonna clean the shitty dick up if not for the Russians?
The bottom horse is just getting himself ready for the daily asspounding he'll get from the mongoloid mobiks. Luckily their cocks are much, much, MUCH smaller.
Seconded
>the ass is in the ass
Poor horseys 🙁
you just know.
>2025
>the final Ukrainian offensive is marching on Moscow
>China has withdrawn support and denounced Russia, Putin is hiding in his bunker, soldiers are deserting to go home to their families, all hope is lost
>out of the fog, a lone rider comes to stop them
>picrel
>And I looked, and behold a pale horse, and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him
>Hell followed with him
>Calendar suddenly resets to year Juche 114
>All food in your pantry is gone, replaced with crates of 14.5mm
>All natural fiber clothes replaced with Vinalon
>Suddenly lose 25lbs
>All autisim spectrum diagnosis nation wide suddenly read 'Songun'
>Moscow renamed Capital of East Korea
Sounds like an improvement over being Russia tbh
>I saw the Crown of Russia laying on the ground, so i picked it up with my sword.
I cared about the horses more than we about yous
You can put any number up there, really. Russian invaders are not human, so killing them is always fine.
You know exactly what is going to happen to those horses, if you give them to russian troops.
Crimes against nature?
Finally some decent rations.
>mr_hands.mkv
Is he wearing a pajama?
he probably got done fucking the horses and was having a smoke.
Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!
I’m not pro Russia, but I have to admit I’m impressed by russian ressourcefullness and out- of-the-box thinking. They constantly overcome problems with innovative and cheap solutions. The West just throws money at contractors, in hope that it will somehow solve their problems. It’s so wastefull and ineffective.
>They constantly overcome problems
da tovarisch)) russki smegalka can move mountain))
>reduced to horse-drawn supply runs because supply lines are so insecure that minor noise means immediate artillery
>"out of the box"
Next week we'll hear about some Mobik's brilliant discovery that you can use leaves as toilet paper, significantly easing stress on Russian logistics.
Don't look up when Russia started producing toiler paper.
>Russia started producing toiler paper.
you realize most of the world still wiped their asses with newspaper until very recently, right? toilet paper as an item even commoners can afford everyday is a relatively new phenomenon even in the west
What levels of schizo garble is this?
i'm serious, retard. toilet paper was a luxury everywhere but america until about the 1970s-1980s. most people wiped their asses with old newspaper. you would know this if you ask your european grandparents, if you had any.
meant for
kinda. First toilet paper factory in USSR was built in 1968, but rest of the world was head of that.
Dude, Albania is not ”The West”.
my granny and the rest of my family are native irish and even my granny had toilet paper when she was relatively young, according to my mother
keep shitting on the street pajeet
Actually most people were using toilet paper by 1870.
http://www.toiletpaperhistory.net/toilet-paper-history/history-of-toilet-paper/
>In 1935 Northern Tissue invented splinter free toilet paper.
the fuck
Back when men were men. Kids today will never understand the struggle of pulling splinters from their ass
>your european grandparents
Disgusting. Imagine your family not living here since the 1600s or 1700s.
that's not true, Ivan
>being off about basic history by an entire century
russian, serbian, or american schizophrenic?
all true
we dindn't even have newspapers
we would just rub our assholes on the ground to clean them up
Anon, my grandpas had toilet paper here in South America..
Bruh
Literal schizo vatmoron spotted.
>can't imagine a world where people wiped their asses with newspaper instead of toilet paper
is it really that shocking to you?
No because we live in a first world, I dont even remember wiping my ass with newspaper and I was born in the 80s. Post hand, you reek of curry
SIR DO NOT REDEEM
TAKE THE POO TO THE LOO
I can, but only because I'm old enough to remember the shortages of the commie era.
What the fuck is wrong with you
But we're not talking about the entire third world, we're talking about a superpower that had sent people into space *before* having a basic amenity like toilet paper be mass produced in their country. That's so goddamn insanely ass-backwards that it's almost unfathomable.
no, even places like the UK and Germany didn't adopt toilet paper en masse till way later. europe was fucking broke, dude. next you'll be surprised most people in europe still didn't own refrigerators until the 70's-80's.
>Muh Europoors no have ass paperin 20th century duhhhhh
Retarded burger detected. Most of Europe that wasn't a Soviet shithole was technologically on par with the US. Fridges were commonplace in the 60s, we had central heating already, most places had running water long before most of the US midwest had any, etc.
The only thing I remember that was a big luxury from what my parents told me about their youth was a color TV in the late 60s/early 70s. And that wasn't "will never see one in person" but more "the neighbor a few apartments over let us watch his".
Seriously, why the fuck do burgers always think Europe's living standard was the equivalent of a remote Alpine village? We invented much of the shit you guys think we didn't have, and we also had an economic boom in the 50s and 60s.
The poster you're replying to is a paid shitposter from India, no same American would post something like that.
*sane
>the west
>everywhere but america
so not the west
>8(EIGHT) fucking years after Yuri Gagarin was sent to space
>19FUCKING69
Holy shit lmao
There’s so much honeysuckle where I live that I always know which leaves are safe to use. Even in winter. 🙁
It pains me to say it, but on this one I’m on board. When I see russians or hohols armored columns slowly drive into mines and ATGM hell, I can’t help thinking that a charge of mounted infantry could galop through it easily and rush the trenches before the banderites could wake up from their drunken stupor.
Anon, a proper warhorse weighs enough to set off an AT mine. It will just be a lot messier and you would have gotten a poor horse killed for nothing.
You might get away with using ponies, but at that point you might as well use motorbikes or ATVs instead.
AT is almost always laid with AP anyway.
Which leads to some amusing footage when they're so close together that a soldier steps on an AP mine, and the explosion sets off an AT.
I know your trolling Anon, but they're are people who have spent their whole lives in twons who won't realise how much food and care needs to go into keeping a horse happy and healthy in peace time, let alone when you're at war.
>food and care needs to go into keeping a horse happy and healthy
Ah, here’s your miscalculation. No one East of Dniepro ever cared about keeping anyone or anything happy, and ”fed” is an individual responsability.
First, using horses on this age and circumstance is neither innovative nor cheap; and two, i would be impressed if a third world shithole with very little too work with had "ressourcefullness and out- of-the-box thinking", when mr "second strongest army in the world" comes to this is just laughable, and im not even sure they have this virtue, in this case, the terms "desperate" and "retarded" are more accurate.
>"I'm not pro Russia..."
>blatantly jerking off about smekalka
Cмeкaлкa нe paбoтaeт пидopoм. Этo нe cтoит pyблeй, цeнa cмeкaлки зaплaчeнa pyccкoй кpoвью.
>breaking out clumsy aphorisms in slaverunes just to tell a member of a zombie civilization that his life is not worth much to military leadership
yeah
wtf, russians are cool now?!?!?!?
Mmmmm roasted horsies*~~*~~)
Horde horse archers are back
It's converting from vatniks to people, making it even more unrealistic.
*Genghis Khan noises*
Those poor mares.
>mares
Anon, I take it you know nothing of Russians. The stallions have much more to fear.
The stallions instill fear in mobiks for their discipline sessions
DORPUS?!
>the last charge of the blyat brigade
Youre retarded my man. Europeans use a dot like a comma. 261,000 people.
I don't care that they're russian, nor do i care if they're more effective than modern cavalry or not. But riding a horse in the battlefield sound fucking cool, like a knight n shit. I wish i was born to at least be a dragoon.
Can they make a version for S-300?
Koꓘ
They’re so back
>TFW when they're so fucking back
Slightly less retarded than it seems because a horse is a lot quieter than anything with an engine in it, but they're still using horses in war when the other side isn't and that's generally not a great thing when you're talking about how "things are going over there".
Call up the polish heavy cavalry
We got some glory kills to be made
So many of them
So, about when can we expect the charge of the Conscript Brigade?
Using horses in war is absolutely fucking based. We did it in Afghanistan.
>using horses in a mountainous regions with few roads and small trails because they're the only option
>using horses in flatland with plenty of roads because your tiny neighbor (that you disarmed via perfidy) has put holes in everything with a radiator that mobiks drove over the border
So is the pic-related going to be next mode of transportation, which mobiks are going to be used for?
Ah, the old Mongolian Attack Halfhorses.
horses are fren, I wish them a safe retreat
LIGHT CAVALRY CHARGES ARE BACK ON THE MENU BOIS
everyones going to take turns raping that poor horse
and then the vatniks are going to hold down the new soldiers and have the horse rape them to death
Much like the Russian soldiers themselves, not sure why they bothered naming them, they're going to be caking a trench wall sooner than later.
What would be hilarious is if they stepped on a russian mine
>tfw Russoids accidentally reintroduce Man-Eating Horses back into the World
Sasuga Shoigu-dono
That horse has seen some shit