>Russia still hasn't taken Bakhmut Posted on March 1, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor >Russia still hasn't taken Bakhmut
One that podunk town falls - in two (2) more weeks - the trolls are going to be shilling it as the greatest strategic victory in the history of Russia. Screencap this.
They are literally never going to take it. Screen cap this.
They took out 90% of the troops from the city. Anon, yes they will withdraw and they are preparing for it. When? I have no fucking idea, I don't even know how they managed to get this far thqh.
>They took out 90% of the troops from the city.
This sounds it came straight out of your ass.
>don't even know how they managed to get this far thqh
Anon, I heard the Ukrainians took out most of their troops from Bakhmut and were planning to withdraw in January. I am not kidding. I've been hearing about it for over a month. I've been waiting for them to blow that fortress up on their way out and leave and it hasn't fucking happened.
I don't even know what to think at this point.
>Ukraine recaptures Bakhmut in a week
it would be over for vatniks
Nah they will just claim they had already denazified it and chose to leave as a gesture of goodwill.
Ziggers are in for a world of hurt when the find out Bakhmut wasn't the main defensive line kek.
because it isn't
it's not even more important than Rubizhne was, I don't know why ukies decided to hold it for so long, but the only reasonable explanation is it was REALLY that great for meatgrinding russian mobiks
Nah they’ll just be shilling whatever the next podunk town is and never giving much of any thought to anything that happened two weeks before or will happen two weeks in the future.
They’re like higher level reptiles in a way.
Don't insult reptiles like that.
from bakhmut it is an easy journey across the dnipro to Kief
Russia said it would be easy to conquer all of Europe and that it was the second world power but they’re getting wrecked by their next door neighbors.
Imagine being Chinese and saying you where third behind Russia all this time lol.
I miss my cat 🙁
i miss my dog :(, he loved the snow, would just eat it and lay in it.
One day, this thread will exist, and Bakhmut will have fallen.
But let me tell you my PrepHoleommando's, TODAY IS NOT THAT DAY!
Fight on! And fight hard! Slava Ukraine!!
Unironically how do they manage to do that? Can any vatmorons in the thread explain how is it even possible to waste almost a year of time, manpower and equipment trying to take a small town with a combined might of the world's second army?
At this point in time, the purpose of the war is no longer to win the war but to to keep waging the war. Because if the war ever stops then there would be time to reflect and think about it. Putin can't allow that. Same reason why North Korea is still "at war" with the US/South Korea.
It's very simple to explain really, they just don't want to assault it directly. They were completely buck broken by urban combat in SD and Mariupol, where they had all the advantages imaginable and still got horrendous casualties. So just sending armor column after armor column directly into the Bakhmut is no longer an option for them, they have neither trained motivated man, nor enough armor and not even enough artillery to just level the fuck out of that one small town. So what they do instead is they assault everything around Bakhmut, which is mostly some hamlets for one street and three shacks or empty fields, and they plan to do this until ukies just say "fuck it" and leave Bakhmut.
My assumption is that Ukraine is not only holding the town for the sake of easily murdering Russians, but that they're trying to hold out until they can begin their next offensive.
It'll be interesting to see where they'll counterattack and if they'll try to retake the areas around Bakhmut.
Prigozhin asked for 360,000 artillery shells per month, but received 20% more as satisfaction. I don't think it's easy for terrorists trapped in a city to do anything other than die under such a bombardment.
He openly mocks terrorists and makes official appeals to Zelensky demanding not to surrender the city and continue to send reinforcements.
If only they had an internet tough guy Iike you to back them up. The entire country would surrender I'm sure.
Don’t get sledge-hammered bucks, you are too important as an online shill
"P-please! I s-surrender! I don't believe in the war, I want to live, I-ACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK!"
>Vatnik thought everything will not end like this, he thought he will get away after all of this and no one will resist. Or maybe for him, government is scarier compared to this ending
Don't have pity for them
>My assumption is that Ukraine is not only holding the town for the sake of easily murdering Russians
1 dead hohols for 3 or so ruskies counts as easy?
They're just bombing from the sky, it's okay.
Guys a genius really, just say literally the same shit over and over and roll in all those YT bucks from Serbians
It's a grinding battle, like Verdun.
Verdun is and was a fairly insignificant city (current population: 17,000) yet hundreds of thousands of French and German soldiers died there.
Bakhmut hasn't been a town since 2014. It's been part of the line of contact in Donbass since then and it's been increasingly fortified since then as well. It's not a town, its a large military base that at one point had 30 thousand troops. Even Prighozin says this.
The whole reason they were recruiting convicts is because if they sent in their best men with their best vehicles and best support they'd be all exterminated in exchange for the same damage they'd do using massive artillery and Vietcong sapper raids. So assaulting it is worthless.
Also I can't wati till the Wagner information war shills in this board are mobilized and gang raped and pimped out by their swarthy chechen goat fuckers they love so much.
Like dude, Bakhmut is a giant Russian Meatgrinder
That's not I think it is, is it?
Please never stop
>Ukraine still hasn't taken Ukraine
Winning, fellow nafo sistaz
>"Ruzzia strong! Beat whole of west alone!"
"T-they haven't lost all of their ground in Ukraine! Ruzzia still strong! C-cope!"
The absolute state of you shit skins.
>russia is shit therefore being occupied is good and winning
the state of you retards
>Defending country hasn’t defeated its enemy right away therefore it’s losing.
So right Zister, what oil depot got bombed today that this is the new official line that’s in every thread?
you know you're losing when you can't address ukraine's state without deflecting to >b-but russia also bad and underachiever.
yeah ok i dont give a fuck about russia, how about ukraine moron? say it,
O C C U P I E D
no amount of russia is shit cope will change this FACT
You mean like Kherson was occupied too?
or 20% of your country
>more russia is shit deflection
How come more than half was deocuppied then?
>or 20% of your country
should be 100% retard hahaha
Deflection? I'm talking about how you helped me realize that Ukraine is no match for military superpowers like the US as I had previously believed, or they wouldn't be taking so long to kick out the enemy out of their occupied territories. Indeed, only some third-rate post-Soviet shithole would allow a shitty post-Soviet army to occupy their rightful territory for months on end. The Ukrainian military must be very corrupt and poorly equipped.
Was there something else I was supposed to realize?
hasn't been 20% in more than half a year retard, it's more like 16% now and 8% of that was already occupied 9 years ago
rusnya morons are advancing in ukraine at a staggering 8% every decade lmao
Wow, that really opened my eyes, I thought Ukraine was the #2 military in the world and could kick out Russia in 3 days but now I see they aren't all that.
By the sound of things, there's been continuous bombing of Russian oil depots and military infrastructure for two nights+ now.
>only replies emotionally
you succeeded in becoming a woman
>no no no you have to reply to me with logic so i can debate you
This isn't 4chan, people here have no problem with dismissing your bullshit out of hand.
so you cant defend your ideals, pity
No need to justify anything to someone like you.
you're a real woman and i don't say this lightly
Posted by someone who has never actually dated a woman
you're correct in that i don't date """women""" like you
Pity, that's the closest you would have gotten to someone wearing a dress.
wear your dresses with pride anon, don't let le vatnig shills put you down
ukraine is still occupied nonetheless :^)
>ukraine is still occupied nonetheless :^)
yup ukraine is occupied that's a F A C T
i don't care about russia and much less about russians, i only care about ukraine, which remains occupied
>pro russia talking points but i totally don't care about russia
what's one more lie under your belt after all
i actually hate russia, but i hate gays like you more
ukraine remains occupied
>ukraine remains occupied
We have found the new cope line. The very neutral, non-Russia loving 4chanmoron will repeat it to soothe the asshurt of backing a shitty horse he thought was le white savior supapowah.
Say the cope, vatnik.
>yup my ass is occupied by dick that's a F A C T
Stunning and brave
why does the FACT that ukraine is occupied causes so much anguish in you woman?
It's not a fact gay, that is fucking Russian land according to decrees signed by Putin and duma. Ukranians are literally on our own land and occupy large parts of several oblasts. Stop fucking acting retarded with this kind of talk
>Russia can’t even hold its own land
Tell Vyodomyr that this might not be the best hill to die on
oh ok not occupied but conquered, i love this cope
>"Ruzzia stronk! Will solo all of ze west!"
>"We haven't lost all of the ground we claimed would be russia forever! Trust Z plan!"
Shit skins will use mental gymnastics to justify anything.
>i love this cope
That's a pretty nasty hit.
Yeah, it's one of the rare Russian thermal drone hits and he's false flagging.
>France is still occupied nonetheless :^)
>two more weeks until we break through and capture Paris
t. German shitposter circa 1918
i know they're retarded but russia doesn't have to break through, they only have to stick around, it's ukraine that's got to win to retake its territories
Invading a country and occupying it while there is an enemy insurgency is hard. Doing so while they still have an active and powerful standing army is a fools errand. You factor in global economic sanctions and Russians likely suffering higher casualties just "waiting it out" or a war of attrition isn't a viable strategy. Even the Russians know that which why they're still trying to take land and destroy the Ukrainian army. Ukraine could "win" without retaking anymore land.
Why do you keep talking about how much you like dick in your ass?
>war of attrition isn't a viable strategy.
How so? You think NATO will start shipping men to Ukraine as well?
I think they'll start shipping glowmorons to trigger a civil war, then kill you all while you're busy fighting over who gets to be King Monkey next.
Ukraine declared general mobilization at the start of the war. They've had more available manpower for most of the war and the Russians have been losing more men than them. So Russia is on track to run of men first and endlessly conscripting waves of hundreds of thousands of men to die isn't politically viable in the long term. Consider wars like Vietnam and Korea, the defenders took massive casualties and America enjoyed a massive KD ratio and functional unlimited supplies and resources and they still had to throw in the towel.
yes we're entering the realm of wild speculations
in the meantime ukraine remains occupied
>spam empty phrase
>get called out and made fun of
>spam U mad XD to any reply while spamming the same empty phrase
But nothing will stop the FACT that in meantime ukraine remains occupied right comrade retard? Nobody can take that away from you.
>imagine getting so worked up over a mere FACT
wouldn't be me
knowing russia is too weak is a real relief for all the ukies under russian occupation
I'm sure it is, Russians are animals but they know now that the occupation is just temporary and that probably makes it easier to live with while its here
jesus this is pretty sad, he's so completely buckbroken, only a year ago this little tankie was absolutely convinced that russia was the based trad superpower that could liberate him from the le ebil globohomo. now he has to cope with the fact that russia can't even take more than 17% of the first country on it's border. his mind is so broken he can only say one thing compulsively now.
>can't even take more than 17% of the first
The area they conquered is bigger than many European countries already.
…but it’s 17% of ukraine
>we never needed 17% of our territory, and it should be more anyways
we're winning sisters
It’s really weird how you try to represent what was said as being the exact opposite of the words used when anyone can click through the reply chain but to be clear;
>We are laughing at the fact that Pozziya is so impotent they cannot take more than 17% of a neighbouring country that wasn’t even supposed to be a geopolitical enemy
>make statement about ukraine
>deflects to huuurrr but russia le suck
it's weird indeed how you can't discuss ukraine without deflecting to russia
almost as if acknowledging being occupied isn't winning at all and you have to PrepHoleope by reminding yourself russia is shit and also losing
>you can’t discuss ukraine without deflecting to russia
>can’t discuss one combatant in a war without referring to the other combatant
The absolute fucking state of mind you’ve all been buck broken into
>deflects to "russia has underachieved massively" as a counter to the simplest and most undeniable fact that ukraine is occupied
you are a coping retard
you're coping with your favourite dictatorship not living up to your original expectations, which is why you've memoryholed those and now pretend you always thought ukraine would be able to stop itself from being annihalated, let alone keep large parts of the eastern part of the country unoccupied. really impressive how strong your mental gymnastics are.
you're a pathetic excuse of a human
>shilling for “second most powerful army” of sodomites who can’t even beat their demilitarized neighbor they’ve been undercutting for the past 30 years (longer but they like to pretend the soviets where different in situations where they need to avoid culpability)
Ukraine was demilitarized?
dude you're owning the mongoloid vatnig in your head, with facts and logic no less. keep at it
>lmao bro your owning that other kind of gay (but not my particular brand of delusional gayry even though they’re identical)
enjoying every post of your mental meltdown
don't throw stones in a glass house, this anon is just mocking you because your narrative at the beginning of the war was so thorougly uprooted that you're still struggling to cope with the fact that you still have to find a way to stay positive about russia somehow after all that has transpired.
fairly sure we had the same narrative at the beginning of the war, but you lost the thread in september because you're an impressionable retard
indeed, and how pleasantly surprised i was that russia's massive underperformance swung the war in ukraine's favor. you, being a russian cumguzzler however, likely had a rather rude awakening, that's what i keep referring to, that's what all of this is.
>w-were the same!
Lmao you’re the most pathetic delusional subhuman gay on earth. Kys
i know you are, but what am i?
>we totally weren't gloating about ukraine falling in 48 hours before things went down, we're actually dissapointed you didn't completely rip russia a new one harder.
it doesn't work the other way around retard, russia is not the underdog, they're supposed to be a superpower remember? expectations were and are on russia, not ukraine. that's a F A C T 🙂
>my retarded expectation cope is a fact
yeah ok, we'll just tell the ukies that have lost their land that russia was supposed to fuck them up even more, so they should rejoice
>ukraine is losing haha, you haven't COMPLETELY beaten the shit out of them yet, they still have a few unbruised LOL get REKT
russia is the agressor, it was their job to take the whole country, they failed, therefore, ukraine has already won by surviving, the question now is how much harder they can win.
nobody cares about your retarded definition of victory, you use it because you'd have nothing left to keep you sane if you didn't, you'd have absolutely nothing to excuse in your mind the abhorrent failure of russia in this war. your little brain would shatter and you'd fucking have a nice day. for that reason, i excuse your retardation, i get that it's hard to change your mind about things you've believed your entire life.
>nobody cares your country is occupied, russia was supposed to take the whole thing
ok make sure to let the ukies know
In March 2022, at the peak of Russian occupation, they controlled roughly 160,000 square km of Ukie territory, including what they already had from 2014, by November the Ukies had retaken 70,000 square km of territory. If western arms make absolutely no difference to their offensive capability, Ukraine would still de-occupy their entire de jure territory by the end of 2024. Sabre rattling about how Ukraine is occupied is irrelevant when it’s been proven on the field that complete liberation of 2014 held territory is a realistic goal, especially considering that it was a pipe dream before the start of the three day special military operation
that doesn't change the F A C T that russia was supposed to beat all of european HATO on it's own fren. but they couldn't even handle the first country and are now actually proud of taking a small salt mining town after about half a year of pushing in it's direction. it's almost sad to see them so desperate to distract themselves from the reality that things were not what they thought they were and as it turns out russia are a bunch of weaklings struggling to occupy what they already have. nobody here is impressed when some dude says that ukraine is occupied, i personally find it hilarious that anyone would be proud of such a failure to achieve, many others would probably agree, but who am i to assume.
>Russia has spent a year stuck on the tutorial level
ukrainians can now rejoice "yes we lost 17% of our land and countless men, but russia underachieved"
lmao i remember them losing a larger percentage than that vatmoron, what happened since then?
>ukrainians can now rejoice "yes we lost 17% of our land and countless men, but russia underachieved
Yes. They're up against the worlds second most powerful army, remember?
>yes my house got bombed, my land got taken, but i'm glad it was the supposedly second army in the world
nobody thinks like that, that is cope and deflection
temporarily occupying 17% of ukraine sure is worth becoming absolute geopolitical pariahs, isn't it. putin wouldn't dare step foot in his supposedly occupied ukraine, nor has he ever in the last decade, so what's the point
i dont care about russia becoming a pariah i care about ukraine being occupied
now tell me again how that doesn't matter because russia underachieved and retreated a lot
Imagine being Russian and the only “support” you have Brazilians sand morons and pajeets, who like (you) have never succeeded in a single thing in their existence besides being worthless moron slaves.
Invade one to the poorest European nations and get fucking stopped just a few Kilometers in.
You are a joke of a nation and your corpse will be picked clean by China. No one is scared of you anymore and you now have the economic leverage of Nigeria and just like them most of the world doesn't care.
>the reality of ukraine being occupied causes him to brag about it "haha it should be more!"
pretty sad indeed
>he's so completely broken he even responds with the same phrase
again, very implessive, we're all bowing down to mighty russia for failing to occupy more than 18% of the country, good on you for telling us based retard.
god ukrainians have it so good, i wish i was so lucky my country was occupied so random virgins could brag "it's only 17% and should have been a lot more ;)"
man you're so empathetic bro, i bet you care a lot about ukraine, you seem to love them so much that you constantly worry for them and their occupied regions, and yet, at the same time you also gloat about it, as if you're happy?
theres a distinction between empathizing with a population being exploited by globohomo superpowers into killing each other
and blindly picking one of those and cheering them on like its a fucking football game
Russia isn't going to tolerate a foreign power propping up a hostile border with missiles and guns
The same way America didn't tolerate Cuba
The simplest and fastest solution preserving the most life is Ukraine surrendering.
The next simplest and fastest solution preserving the most life is Ukraine losing faster.
>russia isn't going to tolerate
they'll have to, because they're not strong enough to prevent it
It sure seems like theyre doing just fine now.
lmao, they're stuck in a meatgrinder with no way to win
russia is literally winning as we speak?
unless you think the pace of that is somehow a victory?
they traded kherson and kharkiv for soledar, that's called losing.
>It sure seems like theyre doing just fine now.
Yeah. No problems at all. That's why they put all those air defense systems on top of buildings in Moscow. Because everything's fine.
>theyre doing just fine now.
You are so far behind the civilized world that fucking AFRICA is passing you by.
>America didn't tolerate Cuba
This isn't the 60's fuck face missiles don't need to be parked right on the boarder any more they are intercontinental.
If this was the trigger for the war then why not invade the nordic countries? They are closer to Banan man and are joining right now.
Your argument is basically
>WAAAAA let us rape our little brother
>no fair you pick his side let me rape him
>Why you want to defend yourself from rape by joining club
>you are now threat!
You have shown the world you are a mob run joke of a country that rightly most of the world hates you.
>The same way America didn't tolerate Cuba
When did America invade Cuba?
>Russia isn't going to tolerate
Whatever the west wants it gets. Russia will take it like a good boy and Russia will say 'thank you' afterwards.
>care a lot about ukraine
>you seem to love them so much
i love them so much i married one
i just hate you fanboy morons
i'm not much of a fanboy though, before this war i didn't care about ukraine and right now i mostly care about them to the extent of their warkino and their decimation of russia. i hope the best for them because they don't seem like subhumans and i like cheering for the underdog. why would you be so autistically mad about that, you git?
i wanna discuss the war but you shilling gays make it impossible
Stop (you)ing yourself in public line this you degenerate retard
take your meds
are you gays bots?
>t subhuman gay
You’re not even human. Stop posting your delusions online and have a nice day.
ukraine is occupied
So was afghanistan, who won?
Russia and its supporters are failures and subhumans
yes and nobody denies this...
congrats you're the first fanboy that managed to accept this fact, it only took a couple days
Everyone has accepted it, but Russia is still losing.
>insta deflects back to russia
fuck you were so close
no you're mentally ill
You don't have an argument
you're incapable of having a conversation, you lash out and get hyperdefensive at the mention of objective facts
But you're not trying to have a conversation. You're not making any arguments in relation to what you're saying and you're dismissing any attempts to engage with it
Simply saying "Russia is occupying part of Ukraine" is not a conversation starter
He's not paid to converse, he's paid to echo the current narrative, which is that Russia is winning because it walked onto someone else's land and Moscow wasn't vaporized as a result.
a conversation can only be had if we first acknowledge the same reality. you refuse by way of deflection because you don't want a conversation, you want cheerleading fanboys to yell what you want to hear and get into a shouting contest with the mythical villainous vatnig shill
Part of Ukraine is occupied.
There, acknowledged, what now?
great, now that we inhabit the same reality we can have a conversation.
that's hardly an enviable position you'd have to admit, ukraine faces many challenges and is still fighting from a position of weakness.
how do you think ukraine can improve the current situation?
they've been launching long range missiles or drones at russian's ammo depot shaping the field in a way reminiscent of the first counteroffensive. you reckon we're in for a rerun?
They seem to be building up for something, seeing as there hasn't been much evidence of any of their recent western gear being used for defending bakhmut. My guess would be going for zaporizzhszsdzsdzccsxdfzstycykablyatia but I really have know way to know.
pro tip the zh is a transliteration for a french j sound
should be easier to remember zaporijya
my biggest doubt for the past several months has been wether ukraine can launch a successful attack at this point, russians have had a year to dug in, luckily for us they've been immolating themselves kinda like they did in summer, but by all looks ukraine has been taking heavy casualties as well, it's impossible to say now whether that'll hamper future operations.
i'm also worried about the command that seems to fall back to their soviet way to easily.
the situation is not easy one bit, and i don't like the idea of having to rely on russians being retards
lmao you went through that entire spergout for this? jesus christ man, that's sad
anyway to answer your actual question i do think ukraine will try for another counteroffensive, i assume whenever the ground becomes hard enough that they won't be relegated to only solid road anymore. i doubt it'll be as smooth or fast as the last ones they did though, russia has set up more defensive obstacles, and though it's really not know what quality most of them are, it will help to slow any ukrainan breakthrough. at the moment i'm still holding judgement on a lot of things, i don't think we've yet to see GLSDB in action and i donno what the impact of that will be, considering it follows a gliding trajectory i'm not sure if it would be easier or harder for russian AD to intercept.
there's also the giant open question of how many reserves ukraine can train in a given time, i'd bet there's lots of behind the scenes being done right now to improve force generation being done outside of ukraine right now.
so you think the halt to the offensive was the mud alone?
i think so for the most part, but there's a chance ukraine hit a roadblock
It makes a lot of sense to be careful with the high end equipment they're getting, if they're seen to be squandering it they might be dropped back to intel, ammunition and ATGMs only support from the west.
definetly, i'm not saying it's the only reason, i'm just saying that ukraine so far has generally been pretty nervous about attacking unless the conditions are just right, and if there is going to be a counteroffensive they will wait until truly stable wheather arrives. hell they refused to bumrush kherson even after it was clear that the russians were gonna evacuate, mostly fearing losing disproportionate losses in rearguard actions and rushing through possible boobytraps. honestly for the exact same reason i don't see wagner and the russian regulars rushing through bahkmut even as ukraine is evacuating it's troops from there.
i'm mostly curious to see how the well the new armoured vehicles they're getting will be arranged. if they do a shit job at that they could waste a lot of potential.
there's a lot on the line in the next offensive.
i highly doubt western support will continue at this level if front doesn't move after the end of summer
realistically it probably will one way or another. it depends though, i can see how some countries might just continue support on their own under the radar, keep in mind they don't really HAVE to inform the public with all the precise details. kinda like how the war in afghanistan just kinda kept going and we all forgot about it dispite it still being funded. different countries will probably have different cutoff points where they might feel sending aid is no longer worth it, america probably having the highest cutoff point because they already support a larger MIC and stand to lose less by doing so.
by "it will" i meant the front moving btw" not aid continueing
I doubt defensive aid would ever get cut off, but if the internet gets flooded with videos of challengers and leopards doing a lemming rush through a minefield then there probably won't be a second batch. If they make western tanks look good, on the other hand, the next batch will be big.
so far that's how most of the aid packages have worked, send a small batch at first and see how well they operate, if it works well then send more of that particular item.
>leopards doing a lemming rush through a minefield
that would be a bad scenario but no matter what we're most certainly going to see at least a small number of them throw tracks or even get badly damaged by way of mine, i swear those thing probably make up half the equipment casualties in this war anyway, mines are everywhere in this war and it's honestly rare and an exception when a vehicle is filmed hitting a mine, normally it goes unseen.
>i highly doubt western support will continue at this level
That's not how it works. Most of the stuff that's been pledged hasn't materialized yet. Western aid will continue to roll into Ukraine for quite some time even if for some reason all western nations collectively decide that they'll not provide any further aid.
yep that there ukraine sure is partially occupied alright...
so you wanted to have a conversation about that right? go ahead, converse, create a talking point. start the actual conversation, we're all waiting for you.
I feel sorry for you guys, I really do. It must be really hard to live in a world of opinion and not facts.
Then again, you could also be a really bored (you) farmer whose just here to harvest his crops.
That's the trouble with 4chanacks. They have their heads so far up their arses that everything they say comes with an echo that lasts a good minute or so.
the quality of this board has been going down tremendously
there's no place where one can consistently discuss the war objectively (i won't deny there are moment when this occurs but for the most part is the typical 4chan shitflinging
>says discuss war objectively
>just wants to suck Russian dick because he thinks it will help his third world shithole overcome western imperialism such his low iq and effeminate tendencies
Quickest way to help yourself is commit suicide.
Your whole meltdown was deflection from Russia still not taking backhmut
he isn't close you retard, nobody here denies that ukraine is partially occupied, we just don't see how this is supposed to be a mindnumbing revalation in the way it was for you. this war is in context between to countries, you can't pretend that ukraine being partially occupied happens in isolation from russia failing to do more. please wipe the cum off your face and reboot yourself you massive homo.
>nobody here denies that ukraine is partially occupied
kek well you won't openly deny but you'll deflect in an attempt to not acknowledge the fundamental fact from which a conversation can be had
>w-well you won't o-openly deny-
i literally just told you that ukraine is occupied, please enlighten me how that was a deflection, are you braindamaged or something?
>from which a conversation can be had
that one is being had right now, it's about how pathetic that fundamental fact is considering the context. that's the conversation you're gonna be forced to have because that's the only one that's worth having lmao.
>please enlighten me how that was a deflection, are you braindamaged
kek are you retard? you woke up from as coma? read the rest of the thread, you probably been posting the same retarded deflection the whole time shithead
>i'm not deflecting because i only accept a narrow part of reality, whereas you care about the wider reality surrounding it
oh boy i sure am coping and deflecting right now.
If Russia is making losses from the territorial gains they made at the beginning of the conflict then they are losing as an offensive force. Occupation is irrelevant when the hohols have demonstrated that they’re capable of retaking territory and conducting counter offensive operations on an oblast scale
So by your logic Russia is winning until they control 0.0% of the Ukrainian territory? Using captured territory as a measure of success makes no sense
actually no, everyone already accepts this, you're just so desperate for some sort of imaginary enemy to fight that you're foaming at the mouth in this thread pretending that means anything. we know ukraine is occupied, nobody is impressed, it's not some grand revelation, were we supposed to cry and lament the realization or something?
there's no need to attach all that cope at the end of that statement (i'll overlook the projections), ukraine is occupied, you don't have to make excuses
>Verification not required
there are no excuses, ukraine is partially occupied and it's pretty sad you keep hanging onto this for moral support, like a little therapy pillow, no amount of projecting your own issues onto others will change that.
why do you have to append dumb shit at the end of every post? a simple statement that just can't be accept as is
Here’s an objective fact for you, Russia has lost half the territory it has taken since the start of the war
hey man what are you deflecting for you little PrepHoleoper? can't you just accept the simple fact that russia has lost half of it's occupied territory? it's okay if you can't we just can't have a conversation with you constantly deflecting and not accepting the facts.
Ukraine is retaking the occupied territory, Russia is losing, cope more
right because nuance is difficult for a subhumanoid like yourself.
fact: you're a gay
context: you didn't choose to be because you were probably dropped on your head as a child
see how the context is important? if i only knew the fundamental fact i'd just call you a gay and bully you, but the fact that you didn't choose this life of retardation causes me to feel pity for you. you're a creature of circumstance, so i will feel bad for you instead.
now you try, try to come up with a fundamental fact and then contextualize it, i know you can do it, i believe in you!
>context is fake and gay cope
man you should go live in russia you'd fit right in.
>haha stupid red pests
>glorious third reich still holds some of russia
>it doesn’t matter that we couldn’t hold onto Stalingrad or take moscow
>the Soviet Union is still partly occupied
>that means we’re winning!
>some moron who’s posting online hiding on the toilet from his Ukrainian wife while he shit talks her country being invaded because he’s too pussy to actually say these things to her
Such is life in Eastern Europe.
western europe, i ain't hiding
This is the mongoloid rape baby equivalent of BBC delusion posting? Go back squint moron lol. Time to be drafted.
>So Russia is on track to run of men first
This board is the most entertaining place on the Internet by far
ukraine has incurred no losses and their supply of men is infinite
30+ years off, but with Russias rate of advance that isn't a problem.
>emotional response to the FACT that ukraine is occupied
>extreme butthurt over ukraine's occupation
lol but ok reality is the cope
He actually fucking said it.
>Russia didn’t lose, it simply failed to win… against Ukraine.
is this the new approved cope? it's pretty weak
True, it has mostly captured russian territory
when are they gonna take bakhmut? I've been fearing for bakhmut for god knows how long and I still am, it feels like it's getting closer and closer yet nothing is happening.
still believe russia will take it in the end but what the fuck is going on? what kind of slavshit wizardry are they utilizing?
>when are they gonna take bakhmut?
An amazing and massive military like Russia?
And you're asking how long it would take them to capture a town? On their front line?
Minutes, seconds surely? I mean, how long could it take?
It's wagner there, mr. redditor.
ahhh yes the "private" military :^)
No, its VDV and Marines, doesn't matter how much Prigozhin pays you to do their propaganda here 🙂
>when are they gonna take bakhmut?
honestly. i would fucking establish fire wall defense around that town and they move to Poltava and Dnepr when keeping pigs being massacred in that ruined shithole until whole NATO collapses.
>when are they gonna take bakhmut?
back in december I gave it until february, and it is march already
either ukies leave Bakhmut now or they make one big fuck you move and keep holding it even after town gets surrounded, which would be double funny because vatniks wouldn't be able to take it even in that state.
So long is possible due the nature of the eastern front. They will rather spend their offensive power for a counter attack for another section of the front. So I expect them to fall back in a few weeks or months because Bakhmut is just a stone in the way. Exhausting the Russians Army as much as possible so they getting more cocky and neglect other sectors of the front. Kinda what the Soviets did 1943 at the Battle of Kursk.
The real target are Sloviansk, Kramatorsk and Druzhkivka but with the performance in Bakhmut lol that shit is gonna be more insane and need another 2-3 mobilization waves
One actual war analyst I've seen occasionally on Twitter who correctly predicted the Kharkiv offensive is putting it at mid-March. His prediction also involved Lyman falling however and as far as I can tell that's not even close, the Russians have pushed them back from Kremmina but only into the forest.
In two weeks there will be two more weeks until it's two more weeks until it's two more weeks until it's two more weeks until it's two more weeks until it's two more weeks until it's two more weeks until it's two more weeks left
Two Weeks is today
Imagine dying for this.
It's not like russians have anything to live for anyway, and when they get sent to hell, I'm sure it'll be more comfortable than life in russia.
Another Russian-speaking city safely liberated from the genocidal ukronazis.
love your sarcasm
Looks like a typical russian town.
Still banned 4chantard.
Go fuck a dog or something.
Remember PrepHole, if Russia does take it, we'll have to listen to Glavset, commies, and Vatniks for a few months. They will be incessant, and it will be annoying, but it won't last. Just like Kyiv, Kharkiv, Izyum, Kherson, etc.. they'll eventually lose and when they do, they'll have to listen to me/us ridiculing them for eternity.
>we'll have to listen to Glavset, commies, and Vatniks for a few months
and absolutely all of them will ignore that it took them 8+ months to take a small town...
In all fairness Ukies put up more of a fight there than anyone expected, hell they are even bringing reinforcements now
>In all fairness Ukies put up more of a fight
no they did not. first garden gnomes dropped at Russians garden gnome mafia from all East Europe. Then home grown Nazis with NATO training and i am sure that the shit in Bakhmut right now is running by "combat medics" from all united NATO special forces.
lol. i will not even be surprised that Russians have more surrendered Ukrainian soldiers than in whole fucking Ukrainian fighting forces. Dont forget that Donetz and Luhans militias until today are mostly recruited from "Army East" of former Ukrainian defense forces from South, East and Middle Former Ukraine.
Please rewrite this crap. It's unintelligible.
i know it's difficult, but please try to come to work sober
Fetal alcohol syndrome is no joke you should slap your mother for doing this to you.
>IQ can not get above 88 no matter what you do.
sad to see
Please for the love of god say this graphic is ironic
Here's a (You), I hope you can afford a hot meal tonight my dear Vanya.
Crazy how those "hunted" by Russia turned out to be way more successful than the russians
Makes you think
I'm getting to the point where Muscovites shouldn't be allowed to call themselves "Russian", because they aren't. Ukrainians and Beluorussians are the only ones who should be able to call themselves Russian because they were actually decended from the Rus, the Muscovite subhumans only developed regional clout because they bent over for the Mongols and so were left (a bit sore and wobbly but still) standing, so took that moniker.
So yeah, you subhuman trolls are correct on the idea that Ukraine is "Russia", but only because your shit Muscovite scum polity is not true Russia and never has been.
Muscovy had a dynasty claim on the Rus at a time when Regnum Ruthenorum was absorbed into Lithuania, and Ivan the Terrible did try to press that claim at some point, but this claim died together with him, Romanovs inherited Muscovy under the name of Russian Tsardom iirc, which they had neither a de-jure claim on, nor controlled it de-facto. So yeah, russia even as a concept is a complete sham through and through.
you fucking uneducated gays.
Did you know that Muscovy tsars originated they right to rule directly from mongol authority? Yeah, that's russia for you.
Russia got the worst from the greeks and the worst from the mongols it seems.
How about mongol rape babies? Do you find that more representative of your culture and history?
damn she used to be cute. the wall stays undefeated.
Shouldn't it be the hammer itself thats bloody, and not the handle? Can't they do anything right?
Likely the same genius that bought 3 copies of The Sims was in charge of this le ebin stunt
Blood on their hands I guess.
>Why does Russia like to play the villain?
it was actually a romantic proposition, showing that he could fit the handle up his ass
based but also cringe. very 90s van-damme movie esque
ukraine is occupied by russia
You may continue seething.
Small parts of Ukraine anon
For Russia to make the claim that it is "occupying Ukraine" they would need to control ALL of Ukraine first and unfortunately for them they are simply far too weak to manage that
nobody cares moron, here have another successfully transitioned zigger cattle
>stopped to read
The ESL is strong with this brownoid.
Which NATO units are heading to Bakhmut, exactly?
>Ukraine is a part of Russia
Definitely not Kherson, Kharkiv, Lyman, Balakleya, Kupiansk, or Izium
Shit, DEFINITELY not Bakhmut. Still.
>Poke the 4chanchud
>"LGBTQ+ nazi moron joint horde! Globohomo garden gnomes chud garden gnome with joos on the vaxxine for NPCs from leddit! "
It's fucking poetic.
>we beat bitch ukraini bloody with thin end of hammer, pray we not raise our eyebrows and use hard end
>I shoved this hammer up my ass
>it is aids blood
What are the implications of this kind of threat?
AIDS is too based and tradpilled for zogged nuk zog mutt nazi globohomo garden gnome chud khokolilohil murilardzogolemclapcels to handle.
Bakhmut is center axis of which this operation revolves. Once Ukrainian forces withdraw it is understood by Russia and NATO the operation will be over. It is why Putin is currently negotiating nuclear treaties from a position of power. The drone strikes on Russian soil are nothing but a cornered animal lashing out in fear. NATO have a few weeks worth of drones left maximally.
>blood on the handle
>not the head
That was in someone's ass
>Not responding by sending the envoy's severed head and hands back to his comrades with his prick stuffed in his mouth
Europe has lost its touch.
That reminds me, I need to see how Moldova is playing out.
>more Russian soldiers have died trying to take this one town than American soldiers have died in all post Vietnam conflicts, accidents, and terrorist attacks combined.
The battle of Bakhmut must be one of the best delaying actions ever fought in a war.
As I understand it, it was never about Bakhmut for the Ukrainians, it was about keeping the enemy there, and decimate him, and build up western trained and equipped units for Crimea and Belarus.
Is this supposed to be the hammer they used to kill their own guys?
Do they want the EU to start crushing wagner skulls for them or something?
St. Petersburg fag doesn’t like being lumped in with muscovites lol
>Repeated bomb threats
This happens when you piss off the sodomites. Always anonymous threat letters, or in the case of First Works Baptist Church, the sodomites actually made good on their threats by bombing the church in 2021. Not surprised the "Russian trolls" would get targeted by the same kind of cowards/fags
Talk shit get hit anon, I dunno what to tell you
If they didn't want to get bombed then they shouldn't have been acting like 'tards on the internet
If they don't end up taking it by the end of the war, I will personally travel to Bakhmut, buy a slab from a quarry and carve a relief mural of weeping Russians begging for mercy among mounds of the dead.
Some function of Ukraine throwing literally everything it has to maintain Bakhmut for some reason (is there nothing defensible between there and the Dnieper?) and the potential tactical consideration that they might rather Ukraine try to escape along vulnerable routes slaughtering them rather than embolden them with a siege (cornered rat type thing)?
Just my guess.
They seem like they're already close enough they could delete those highways if they wanted.
Russia has time on their side Ukraine doesn't. Russian lives can be tossed into the grinder and the country is better of it as it won't have to care for an underclass. Ukraine is sending their productive citizens to fight. Russia can throw enough garbage into the disposal that no matter how violent the initial thrust, the blades will dull and the disposal rendered useless.
Putin's strategy is essentially genius. He knows the West will move on from Ukraine. They'll get tired for supporting a losing war. He's drawing them out and getting a feel for their actual capabilities to sustain proxy conflicts on behalf of China.
>Putin's strategy is essentially genius. He knows the West will move on from Ukraine.
I can destroy your entire argument with one simple fact: the west has been increasingly sending more and more equipment to Ukraine. They are now at tanks and IFVs, next jets and cruise missiles. When does it end?
>When does it end?
When the US housing market crashes in the next 2-3 months.
How is a crashing housing market going to affect the 5000+ outdated IFVs and tanks that the US can send to Ukraine?
>They are now at tanks and IFVs
How many? At least Poland sent like 200 tanks - thats not insignificant, although they are already gone. 20 leopards is fucking nothing and its only for the press to shut up, they will have no impact on the battlefield. And the Russians will just keep coming.
Ukraine is absolutely fucked, has been from day 1.
It's fascinating how you people have been saying that every day non-stop for more than 365 days now and that at the same time you say western aid is insignificant, but that is also should stop. Curious how all of your positions benefit Russia and no one else
>has been from day 1
You mean the day one when you were all saying it would be over in 3 days?
If time is on Russia side why was their first offensive operation a decapitation strike aimed at Kiev?
Maybe they thought if they made it seem overwhelming they could coerce early defection or surrender.
Some of the politicians sending them would like to be reelected.
Who? It's a bipartisan issue at this point
It's a rich elitist deep state vs populist issue.
Orangeman doesnt like war.
the chances of orangeman getting reelected are approaching 0
Thirdies don't understand that war is a bipartisan thing in the USA, and is often used when internal political squabbling gets too loud and unruly. Americans of all sorts support war for one reason or another, and isolationists haven't been listened to for over a century.
>Some of the politicians sending them would like to be reelected.
You understand that sending them means the US Military gets the cash right?
When has it EVER been bad for US Politicians to spend on defense?
As a % of our GDP the total of 80 billion we have "given"(to our own military to replace) is 0.0034%
>Your are a fucking Rounding Error to us Vatnik
Russia made a mistake initially. Zelenskyy was supposed to flee or be killed by his own soldiers. There is no denying Russia hasn't made mistakes, but on the whole they can make 100x as many mistakes as the Ukrainians and still come out ahead because--surprise--no elections and numbers count for everything when you have no public to answer to.
>no elections and numbers count for everything when you have no public to answer to.
And yet in the end, all they will be left with is being Northerner Korea: a pariah state without a future that only survives as long as the current Chink mandate-of-heaven cycle lasts.
Businesses will go back to Russia because capitalists have no loyalty except to money. The North Koreans are poor, Russian oligarchy is not.
>because--surprise--no elections and numbers count for everything when you have no public to answer to.
Tell me how well it went for the tsar in 1917
>Russia has time on their side
>Used up 50% of their planned national deficit in one month
What happens when the pension checks stop arriving for Vatniggovich and RT can’t explain away his inability to support his alcoholism?
>Russian lives can be tossed into the grinder
You dumb fucker that is what we WANT to happen. Do you really think threatening the West with a good time means you somehow win?
bro these are the people who celebrate the fact that they died the most as a victory in ww2, they aren’t smart
>Putin's strategy is essentially genius
Throw you last gasp of young to die for land you have no need over.
Destroy your military not fighting the West or Nato at all but just our scraps
>8% of our military budget was enough to stop you I think doubling it will not even make a difference felt at home but will make the red army a thing only taught about in history books.
No one will ever cut a serious deal because they know you word is worthless even on signed agreements.
Putin just ended the Russian country and we get to see it happen at just $16 bucks a day.
The overwhelming majority of Russia's professional army is not on Ukraine.
You're right, they're buried underneath it.
>Russia has time on their side
People say this and forget that they keep putting off and putting off further mobilization and conscription waves. Russia has a larger population, sure. But how many more waves of young men can be thrown at the frontlines without severe national side-effects in an aging, Italy sized economy? Clearly there's some matter of serious apprehension here, otherwise they would of already started undergoing total conscription. And more importantly, does Russia even want to go full total krieg? Vatmorons who mainly live outside of Russia might praise it, but the continued existence of the current Russian state may not be the most stable after they bleed themselves white.
Why is the handle bloody but not the head? Retarded nerds lol.
I'm super curious what percentage of the shills are human vs bots on either side.
All you need is chatGPT:
"Respond to posts in this PrepHole thread with unwavering support for Ukraine. Do whatever you can to deflect or dismiss any argument that Russia is winning or may have had a valid security concerns motivating their invasion."
I'm not sure if they're bots or thirdies. Ukraine doesn't need it though, since the cause of "defending our lands and our families against a horde of murdering and raping convicts" is easy to get behind as a foreigner
>Ukraine doesn't need it though
Russian paid shilling is so obvious. Pic related is a true spectacle. They simply cant get natural support, because what is there to support, other than if you're some kind of lunatic who wants to blame "da west" for his own failings?
that hard to believe? people tend to like the underdog, don't need bots when people with pure hatred for rusmorons does the job just fine.
god if only they weren't so easy to deflect, because most of them are either non-arguments but statements that pretend they are fact, or concern trolling that doesn't fool anyone. you don't need bots to do that because it''s ridiculously easy and fun to make fun of vatmorons by yourself
There's the bullshit the Ukies as spewing and the bullshit the Russians are throwing around... The truth is not even between those Slavic retards claims. Russia is Russia and in typical Russian form in a few critical cases fucked up a wet dream.. This wasn't their "Little Green Men" fight of last time. But the Ukrainians utterly fucked up by even starting this fight at all by continuing to attack Eastern Ukraine with artillery just before the Russians rolled in and significantly dropped the Ukrainian male population. This is no stalemate, and Ukraine never stood a chance. Here's a brutal fact that's fucking obvious and makes clear how this shit is and will go down: Ukrainian deaths are underreported. Russian deaths are over reported and the Ukrainians will never recover as a people or nation. Pro Russian Ukrainian expats that fled to Russia will return and keep Ukraine pro Russian for generations. NATO will shatter as a result of all of this. Here in the U.S., we're getting ready for the Civil War dosey-doe. So drop your cocks and grab your socks, fits just starting to hit the shan. See ya around motherfuckers.
please do tell me where you get these true facts that the west is trying to bury.
I still laugh in these clips when it zooms out to show they’re all fighting between piles of rubble because there’s no town left.
>blood on the handle instead of the head
Is this supposed to be a threat? Because from what I’m gathering the guy who was holding the hammer was killed. Can r*ssians do anything right?
And they never will