Russia: Russia has no 6th gen concept yet. Maybe 20250.

tl;dr the graybeard whose job it is to set the pace for russia's military avionics commented frankly on 6th gen being far, far away.

Russian state media outlet TASS published some VERY interesting statements from Evgeny Fedosov this week. One article is a column and the other quotes from it for clickbait. In the former, Fedosov briefly discusses the evolution of Russia's military aviation industry and addresses the problem statement of 6th gen from the angle of needing to avoid complexification for its own sake, as well as needing to avoid old dogmas about aircraft design as a gestalt-driven process where you're free to prototype off the dome.

In the text, Fedosov quite candidly states that russia's 6th gen efforts are in the pre-concept stage. He even seems to imply that exploratory studies are barely underway – work is still in the chatting with apparatchiks phase. He ballparks 2050 for the introduction of a 6th gen aircraft in russia.

Why is this interesting? Who is this potato?

E.A. Fedosov, now 94 years old, is a mechatronics / aerospace engineer who has been the scientific director of an enormous range of russian AD, missile, and military aviation programs since 1970. As I understand it, he essentially established control engineering as a modern academic discipline in the USSR.

His CV starts in the 1950s with the USSR's earliest indigenous A2A missiles, passes through all the fighters + bombers + helis + SAMs you care to name, and continues to present day.

Most critically, he remains the scientific head of the federal institute mandated to set and assess r&d objectives for military avionics.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The world will remain a generation behind the US in the air huh. By the sound of it, we'll have completed CDRs before they get proposals done.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They don't even have an actual 5th gen, yet. Why are they even larping like they have the ability to produce a 6th gen?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >E.A. Fedosov, now 94 years old, is a mechatronics / aerospace engineer who has been the scientific director of an enormous range of russian AD, missile, and military aviation programs since 1970. As I understand it, he essentially established control engineering as a modern academic discipline in the USSR.
    Jesus Christ, when this guy dies, Russia will revert back to the stone age.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You kid but this is unironically going to be the case

        >E.A. Fedosov, now 94 years old, is a mechatronics / aerospace engineer who has been the scientific director of an enormous range of russian AD, missile, and military aviation programs since 1970. As I understand it, he essentially established control engineering as a modern academic discipline in the USSR.
        Jesus Christ, when this guy dies, Russia will revert back to the stone age.

        The waning years of the USSR and its dissolution were disastrous to the Russian MIC. Lots of engineers just fricked off to other countries (like the US, which picked up a fair few ex-Soviet engineers who've worked on numerous projects like SM-2 etc) or swapped over to (funnily enough) the entertainment field with them creating many of the much beloved flight sims like Il-2 etc. The Ruskies had to rebuild their core of engineers, all while trying to stop the hemorrhaging of experts from the industry.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does picrel remind you of anyone?

      https://i.imgur.com/c1RBUFI.jpg

      They don't even have an actual 5th gen, yet. Why are they even larping like they have the ability to produce a 6th gen?

      >All previous generations of aircraft were created with the participation of GosNIIAS and military institutes. The concept of the fifth generation Su-57 aircraft was also created here, and we are still working on it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He kinda looks like Gorbachev. Are they distant cousins or something?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Man I really want to see what will become of Russia's MIC in 15 or 20 years
      >T-72B7 obr. 2040
      >MiG-31's service extended until 2060

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >B7
        that's already way too systematic, right off the bat

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer Gripen assembly workers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want to LINK with her PING if you catch my drift

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The more I look at these 2 pictures and compare them the more I laugh.

      The balding vatniks crawling around on the plane with their dirty ass personal shoes and equally dirty clothes, the shoddy surface finish on everything, the homemade sheet metal tool tray and other DIY equipment, the rusty scaffolding in the back.

      Meanwhile the Swedish ladies are looking like they are putting together a spaceship.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want them to give me kissies on the lips.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Degenerate

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >protective covers, never heard of'em

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They don't even have a real 5th gen fighter lmao.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >6th gen
    Why would they when they don't even have any 5th gen planes?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Maybe 20250
    grim

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whoops. Sukhois will be shot down over mars, at least.

      *2050

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