russia offers 220.000,00 ruble (3.593,30 united states dollar) for joining the military.
russia offers 220.000,00 ruble (3.593,30 united states dollar) for joining the military.
russia offers 220.000,00 ruble (3.593,30 united states dollar) for joining the military.
yeah, except that reports are piling up they try all tricks in the box to avoid paying
~~*reports*~~
~~*tricks*~~
P.S. don't google Putin's mother's last name
Considering the Russian government would probably go bankrupt after the first thousand recruits, it's safe to assume they aren't paying out.
Russia is famously is corrupt. My guess is that 3593 goes straight to your recruiter. good luck ever getting it. Hell even in America sign up bonus is bullshit. You never really end up getting it.
>America sign up bonus is bullshit
That's not even the fricking half of it. I don't know about Post-9/11 GI Bill, but MGIB was straight fricking bullshit.
>had to make contributions to the fund that equaled a semester's tuition
>every fricking dollar you got was deducted from your Pell Grants and other student aid
>whoops, no scholarships, because reasons
>whoops, no work study, because reasons
>eligibility for all other forms of student aid was obviated by the presumption on you received every single ed. benefit there was, from SLRP to Kicker, although a majority of student veterans received only MGIB
>this is to say nothing of the other presumptions made by student aid, like getting 16K in direct support from parents annually
>this was presumed about dudes who joined the army for college money
>a fukken um uh duh
So you'd end up getting less than some fricking homosexual from the suburbs. This bullshit is 100% proof positive that the US armed forces are just the Israeli Foreign Legion.
I hate this fricking country so much it's unreal.
>seething because you didn't get the benefits you wanted
Lmao
Regardless the post 9/11 is the obvious choice if you had one, unless you're some old moron or had some unique circumstances
If you had the choice, you fricked yourself over by not bothering to do basic research
I got my bonus. I guess morons who think someone else is gonna keep wiping their ass for them don't get theirs
>220.000,00 ruble (3.593,30 united states dollar)
bit meaningless at this point. how many loaves of bread is it worth?
I mean you can buy a lot of bread with this money, the issue however is whether you will be coming back in first place since of course you will go on front line as cannon fodder with this because the "elite troops" definitly won't, and someone has to.
I doubt the type of person they are targeting would think that far. Blow up nazis and HATO. Get paid big. Buy bread and vodka.
You forgot balalaikas
my country is in the EU and even here the sum would be tempting, even knowing everything we do about the current state of the russian military
Huh? A modern military consists of a lot of rear units.
I would understand your point if we were discussing the PMC that is more stormtroopper like.
>Russia
>Modern military
Well that's what surviving LGBTQ soldiers from Yavorov said...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yavoriv_military_base_attack
it's also what most of your military experts say
Also huge proportion of rear units dates back to ww1 and ww2, so I don't see why you would be willing to deny that
Russian military is not modern
> No optics for majority of front line troops
> modern
Small arms account for what, 0.5% of casualties?
Also difference in effectiveness between assault rifles and iron sights version is just about 1,5, and that's testing environment.
>we don't NEED optics
We do and lots of troops already have it, especially actual frontline troops like VDV and marines and special operations units where it actually matters. I'm not satisfied with how LDPR troops are equipped though (duly noted things were rapidly changing for the better)
It's a TV war in the background that nobody quite notices.
The further from Moscow, the more you see people using patriotic symbols on their houses, stores, clothes and cars. As a side note, many people in Kiev and Lvov also live careless peaceful lives not caring much, though I'd imagine it's much more overcast by the ongoing war.
I would say Russians are nowhere as indoctrinated as some Westerners believe, for one thing, most people are skeptical of the media and our propaganda is rather meh, not on the level where it should be.
I have naturally no idea as to how many %% of people support the idea that we have to win this (regardless whether it was a good idea or not to start the military operation), but I would say the majority would answer "yes" if we put the question that way.
As for our soldiers, then I guess the public sentiment is that they are defending our country. Though there is a bunch of CNN fake eaters among liberal LGBTQ community, too - but nobody's making them disappear or torturing them as has been the case with war-critical voices in the Ukraine.
Nah, though there were online reports that some enlistment offices were not issuing papers in time and delaying some of the payments.
You are probably right in that there is certain amount of catches22 to it, but I wouldn't say it's too big.
I was also taught that way in school. Thankfully, you are not using much of thousand delimiters in computer science, so we don't have to deal with confusion too much and accept both commas and dots as decimal fraction delimiters
>We do and lots of troops already have it, especially actual frontline troops like VDV and marines and special operations units where it actually matters
I've only seen Wagner troops with optics. Ukrainian TDF has more optics than VEHDEHVEH and I've yet to see any Russians wearing ear protection
>I've yet to see any Russians wearing ear protection
Oh I've seen some. I do agree we should use it much, much more. And also that a lot more should be done for rehabilitation of vets.
>Ukrainian TDF has more optics
Not sure about that. Regular army - very likely, but not TDF. In many cases TDF were basically hobos equipped with Javelins, mg fricking 42, rusty AKMs and that's it. Especially the ones that were sent as meat shield to Severodonetsk.
About optics
Russians started do deploy some. But few years back some boomer in Russian top command decided that optics are zoomer dad, quote: "muh iron sights". And it was military wide policy to remove all non NV optics from small arms in active units and put them to storage. Policy not well none outside because everything about Russian mil is classified.
True story.
You are the type of Russian that should be executed after the war. The typical mouth frothing vatnik can be convinced to believe into whatever you need him to believe and as such is harmless. moron like you just don't belong in a society l.
>but nobody's making them disappear or torturing them as has been the case with war-critical voices in the Ukraine
It's such a bizarre situation, having a country that kills most journalists per year, threatens parents of dead sailors that they will be considered terrorist if they ask questions about their sons death, invent more and more interesting stories how their servicemen died as to not pay compensation tries to accuse someone else for "silencing opposition"
>It's such a bizarre situation, having a country that kills most journalists per year,
We are on place 10 even according to Western propaganda media.
https://ru.krymr.com/a/rossiya-ubiystva-zhirnalistov-cpj/31535723.html
Stopped reading further.
>We are on place 10
oh sorry, you're not first place murderous shithole, you're only 10th place out of 270 countries. Keep up good work, makes your story how Ukraine is lawlessly torturing and killing innocent war-critical voices but Russia is beacon of not-murdering people searching for truth very believable
>a-at least pidoruzzia manages to beat such bastions of free speech as Somalia, Iraq, South Sudan and Brazil
what does brazil has to do with anything
>makes your story how Ukraine is lawlessly torturing and killing innocent war-critical voices but Russia is beacon of not-murdering people searching for truth very believable
I don't care if you do or not. One of the most prominent recent stories was that of Elvyra Homenko, who wasn't even pro Russian
>check news
>all of them are from Russia
Hmmm...very curious...
Well there is a strict war censorship in the Ukraine. Media outlets are directly subdued to Zelensky, and as for bloggers, they don't report such things so as not to be made disappear themselves.
Here's two Ukrainian sources. https://dev.ua/ru/news/heet-z-univeru-za-storiz-v-instagram-studentku-bilotserkivskoho-vyshu-vykliuchyly-za-1658060486
https://vechirniy.kyiv.ua/news/69118/
both sources say she was expelled from University and no mentions of her disappearance
Because that's what happened afterwards. Russian sources cite the written statement by her mother. There have been sadly 0 refutal in the Ukrainian media.
How does it make you feel that not a single one of your soldiers will make it home alive?
You seem to be taking too much copium. Is that because of the counter-offensive?
And yet, 3x time more Ukrainians can't push back. That is indeed a mistery.
they are not gonna pay rear units 220k roubles per month, This particular battalion is looking for tank crews. And as we've seen tank crews are dying like flies
>And as we've seen tank crews are dying like flies
A lot of tankers actually survive their destroyed tanks, contrary to popular believes.
I'd have to look more into it, but the mere being in the Special Operation Zone gives you the combat bonuses
Cannon fodder is ineffective. Case in point: LPR's offensive at Popasnaya vs. Wagner's actually capturing the place.
>Cannon fodder is ineffective.
Sure, but you get my point, right. It's not like they're going to get the cushy jobs, otherwise there would be no point in such an amount.
Fair enough, but what they are paying to rear and maintenance units does need checking for any further statements.
And ofc it's the military so possible Catch22s also require some investigation.
>Wagner's actually capturing the place
yeah, they capture that place good
they also captured a barrage of rockets yesterday
>they also captured a barrage of rockets yesterday
Well it's a war innit?
seems to be a regularly occurring thing nowadays
no, it's a "special military operation"
>as we've seen tank crews are dying like flies
that was months ago
now they just sit back and occasionally sneak up to snipe something
What would you rather use as cannon fodder: experienced and cheap troops, or inexperienced and expensive troops?
It’s not so much bread but more like how many phones or computers can you buy with that money.
In fact you can buy more phones and computers with that money than before the SMO
about 8148 loaves of bread
or 271.6 per day
t. actual Russian
What's the actual public sentiment right now of the Russians going to fight in Ukraine?
>220,000 roubles/month
>the average salary in Russia is 62,269 rubles a month
>Russia's minimum wage is 7,500 Russian rubles per month
dear god
>A person working in Moscow typically earns around 124,000 RUB per month
it's even twice higher than average salary IN MOSCOW. How fricking desperate they are for recruits?
They can literally just print infinite roubles. They could offer the average soldier 500k roubles per month and the hit on the economy would be shared by the entire population as their savings will collectively lose some value.
Inflation usually takes some time to appear the smart soldiers who make it back alive will buy something like gold with their roubles before their value goes down.
>the smart soldiers who make it back alive will buy something like gold with their roubles before their value goes down.
The smart soldiers will defect at their first occasion and get the €40k defection bonus, that's 2.5M rubles in a currency you actually spend to buy things.
>defect to Ukraine
>get shot in the knee cap or stabbed in the eyeballs
>get sent back to Ruzzis in a POW exchange and then raped in prison for defecting
You must be moronic.
>get shot in the knee cap or stabbed in the eyeballs
>get sent back to Ruzzis in a POW exchange and then raped in prison for defecting
that's reserved for the pedophiles
Ukraine has almost no reports of prisonner torture.
And the ukrainian state explicitely demanded the ukraine army to do that (probably because they fear backclash and loss of support)
>defect to Ukraine
>get shot in the knee cap or stabbed in the eyeballs
It's probably not as common as I wish it were
>and then raped in prison for defecting
Not a thing. I know you are memeing but still.
This, they rape in boot camp. Prison rape is a degenerate HATO mulatto troony thing. London in Two Weeks(TM).
Join my telegram for further Truth Z.
Found your user pic.
>>the average salary in Russia is 62,269 rubles a month
Average is poor indicator for high inequality income distribution states. Better would be median salary and it is 30000 rubles per month.
Russia has a gini-index of 37,5, whereas the UK has that of 35 and the United States a whopping 41.4.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/wealth-inequality-by-country
So what you are saying is that we need to abandon ever taking into account the statistics of average salaries in the US and the UK?
>saying is that we need to abandon ever taking into account the statistics of average
no, he is saying median is more relevant than mean to the discussion.
Well another important conclusion is that Russia is almost exactly like the UK in this regard.
In wealth equality? Sure, relative wealth inequality is well established in many countries, and matching it isn't really a good thing.
problem arises from level of Russia corruption. On paper Putin makes several millions of roubles per year, in reality he owns multi-billion mansions. And that's with every politician in Russia
russia has the highest wealth inequality on the planet. good try vatBlack person
Braindead illiterate monkey got triggered, how cute.
Found your shithole on the top of the list, eh?
Monkey, you say? Btw, your mom and your sister would sell their souls and would work as a cum dumpster for israelites to get a chance for a green card.
vatnik calling anything a shithole would be rich if the words "rich" and "vatnik" could ever be fit together in one sentence
reminder that average wage is the second most lied about number in russian statistics, right after the GDP. It's incredibly unrealistic and outside of 2 biggest cities a wage over 30000 rubles is exceedingly rare.
Last time government org published pessimistic data it was nearly closed down and many people lost their jobs.
>a wage over 30000 rubles is exceedingly rare.
That's not true. Even in poorer provinces it's often (maybe 20-30% of workers receive 40-70k) but yes many people do work for 30.000 rubles.
Russia's corruption is a meme and can't be objectively measured.
Double anal explosion, not bad.
Hello lakhta, how's your employer doing? i heard he was paying wagnerites a visit
>many people do work for 30.000 rubles.
the point is not many, outside of st petersburg and moscow 30k wage is exceedingly rare
>the point is not many, outside of st petersburg and moscow 30k wage is exceedingly rare
Uhm no, it is not.
t. actual Russian
uh yes it is, but you aren't paid to say that
t. more actual russian that a soulless churka like you
>Russia's corruption is a meme
Anybody who tells you the corruption is a meme is lying or delusional.
Forget about silly headlines like your pic related, every single thing in this country happens with bribes or networking - including healthcare, because the government doesn't pay anyone enough.
(the Balkan countries are barely better than this)
You're confused about what average and median are.
Too many people using this and similar threads as their emotion sink.
Well in Smolensk oblast most people receive between 30 and 50k. Same picture in Tver etc.
Are you a "good Ruzzian"? Have you received a "good Ruzzian" ID yet?
>Well in Smolensk oblast most people receive between 30 and 50k. Same picture in Tver etc.
that's a lie and you know it. you lakhta shills earn 25-30k yourselves.
Well I'm not "lakhta", besides, how are you doing in your cipso? They pay you much Mivina?
post prigozhin, pidorashka
>yet another perefors
volodin will have a word with you after the shift
bring lube
>most people receive between 30 and 50k
The "official" average is ~36k.
The real median is probably close to ~25-30k based on personal experience and available statistics.
Even under the extremely optimistic scenario of 36k, "most people" don't get between 30 and 50k. For every person earning above the average, you'll have some earning below the average.
Of course, what this smooths over is that Smolensk is a relatively well-off place compared to most of the countryside. Those salaries come in a package with higher cost of living (comparative to other places in Russia, not compared to somewhere in Czechia or Germany). If you earn less than 30k after tax, you will actually have to be frugal with your money. If you make less than ~26k, you will technically be poor (earning less than the calculated average monthly expenses).
>220.000,00 ruble (3.593,30 united states dollar) for joining the military.
they offer that amount EVERY MONTH
frick, that's pretty decent even by western euro standards. in russia it's basically FAANG tier
It's a lot of money, but then a normal job doesn't require you to endure 155mm hail every day.
it's a LOT of money, anon
even in eastern EU most careers will never get you anywhere close to that amount, basically just programmers in big multinationals and executives in bigger companies can make that amount
>it's alot of money
Lmao
That's below the poverty line here in the us
Then name the salary in US, that allows you to save up 2k per paycheck, and that will be the equivalent.
>155mm hail every day.
You forgot the Bayraktars and Javelins.
They also just give you a couple days if basic training before sending you into the meat grinder. They don't expect that they have to pay for more than a month or two
I get paid the same for sitting on my ass all day and push a green button every hour. It’s a fairly median wage for a yuro.
If they die before a month then there's no need to pay them. Then repeat with the bait for the next batch of cannon fodder.
Got any firsthand reports of this?
I can cap this thread with videos of Ukies stating thus.
>implying all inexperienced fresh recruits would go through training and immediately sent to the front, rather than fill the 3/4 of the military that is logistics and supply..
>Cannon fodder
How many guns does Ukraine have left at the front now?
>t.
Forgot to tag..
I guess you have to survive the whole month to receive salary
>russia offers 220.000,00 ruble (3.593,30 united states dollar) for joining the military.
I'd do it for free just for the chance of killing some zogbot
Then why are you still here? Russia accepts volunteers from any country.
>Then why are you still here?
Where am I ? And how do you know where I am ?
I know that you aren't on the frontlines fighing for mother russia. This is an easy thing to fix. Go!
I am not Russian citizen so I can't fight for Russia, that's the difference between a civilized country and one that accepts mecernaries like Ukraine and Israel.
why dont you apply for citizenship?
my country doesn't accept dual citizenship
indodog
what's the name of your country?
ah, the thirsty serbian is here
they accept serbians, and will provide you infinite amount of russian semen
just apply
Threadly reminder that Serbia already chose to stand against Russia and smuggles weapons to Ukraine and Kazakhstan.
Threadly reminder that Serbia is literally encircled and has a US military base on its territory.
It's not exactly true. I believe this applies only to some former USSR countries, like Tajikistan, citizens of which have also often have permanent residents permit in Russia, or even are Russian citizens
well and African and Syrian and best koreans
Sadly, not true.
They do not.
They do not. The LDPR forces did at one time though, but they don’t anymore as far as I’m aware.
Russia is waiting you sister
Then show up anon.
Is this purely due to "special operation" frickery? Since they can't legally mobilise they have to basically bribe the conscripts into service?
Yes, but it's mostly not conscripts but reservists who they attract like that.
It also incurs less damage to the economy.
>$3.5K to get shot in Ukraine while fighting the "rotten" west
>the same rotten west is paying me $6K to sit on my ass all day, drink beer and enjoy life on easy mode
Russia is truly a cursed place
>the same rotten west is paying me $6K to sit on my ass all day
I'm in EU and I only earn 900€ as office drone.
uh huh, comrade from Zurich oblast, thanks for your input
Zurich would be rayon not oblast but ok.
Still not everyone gets lucky under globohomosexual like that anon above doing nothing for $6k tho judging by the pics here from time to time all of you live in poverty in old cheap houses/apartments with bottom of the barrel trash phones computers and scrapyard tier cars.
Honestly I'm earning only 900€ and my stuff, apartment and cars look way better than what people post here so one gotta ask himself are you all on foodstamps or wtf is going on.
da i completely agree strong pussian bear is prosperous and europe needs pussian gas so that we start earning closer to the 70.000 rubles like that completely unrelated comrade said.
>Still not everyone gets lucky under globohomo
yeah, that's the difference between me and you - while i was sticking in front of the PC trying to learn something that will repay me on the long run, you didn't
it's nothing about luck, it's all about developing well paid skills
what luck in my case is, is that i'm not living in Russia, so i can sell my service to whoever i want or whoever pay me the most
you having a shit ass job is your own fault, not "MUH JOOS"/"MUH GLOBOHOMO" fault
i'm also in the EU
the poorest part of the EU in matter of fact
you just pick the wrong office drone job
Romania?
south of it
So Burglaria. Do you live in Sofia?
yes
Tho median wage in Bulgaria is like $700 or something.
yes, and?
Yeah but they ain't paying that until you serve for 3 months. By that time you'll be dead.
Russia is a cargo cult country
How long until entire Russian families give themselves up for prostitution?
They have been doing that since 90s.
You can divide the dollar amount in half, if not more, if you compare prices for consumer electronics, cars, food and pretty much everything else, except of energy.
Sorry your son went MIA not KIA so no compensation :^)
>using . as thousands separator and , as decimal point
Euros are bad at numbers
Comrade I don't feel so good...
How is that a surprise? Some factory workers are still due wages from May. The Duma voted on legislation to force factories in the defense sector to work for free during war and "special military peacetime operations".
I make that in a night at the Hard Rock, are vatnigs really this desperate for cash?
What is the symbolism behind the orange and black on the ribbon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_of_Saint_George
when is the Omsk "Taras Petukh" battalion coming?
They are currently fighting Kazakhstan over whether Omsk should be part of Kazakhstan.
Kazakhstan is so far managing to keep Omsk out.
did they clear their prisons of recidivists already?
Like how they are offering compensation to the families of dead soldiers killed in the war, so practically all of them are reported as MIA, including the mysteriously disappearing crew of the Moskva, right?
>Ackshually, the Moskva sank accidentally and it wasn't even on Ukrainian waters, so no need to compensate the families XAXAXA
They can only give empty promises and lies because that's all they have.
Does it say it's paying one time or per month? Because i really doubt it's per month.