>Russia losing the war so badly they are losing territory they held SINCE BEFORE THE WAR STARTED
How are shills going to try to spin this objective failure?
>Russia losing the war so badly they are losing territory they held SINCE BEFORE THE WAR STARTED
How are shills going to try to spin this objective failure?
Just a special feint operation
"If you mean 'faint', than that's right because, you know, that's what the Russians do when they see the Ukrainians coming...they 'faint'." *SNORT*
You need to take some spelling classes, Anon.
That pic
Is he supposed to look like a pedo?
its basically a prerequisite to be a russian shill
This is like when the GNATsies lost their pre-1939 gains lmao lmao LMAOOOOOOO!!!!! At this rate Poo-tin will sunset himself on his fuhrerbunker by spring.
>NOOO YOU CAN'T RETREAT TO BETTER FORTIFIED TERRITORIES THIS MEANS YOURE LOSING
Why are hohly like this?
>Retreat
I thought it was a feint?
>Retreating past your own borders
kek
>it's not a retreat, it's a valiant running for the hills!
>It's not a retreat, it's a complete collapse
Quote from a man who spent the last 5 months saying Russia was going to steam roll Ukraine.
He admitted he was wrong, which was surprising to me.
Zeihan is good at admitting when he's wrong. It tends to happen most frequently on military stuff I've noticed because he's a very by the numbers guy and doesn't put enough stock like things in institutional knowledge or experience since they are more nebulous.
Okay vatBlack person
>"BETTER FORTIFIED"
Yeah, because it wasn't their 2014 borders that were fortified; and they are going to make a Maginot 2km from the Russo-Ukro border.
Or are you implying that the Ukrainians are going to invade Russia?
They're running to the urals. You ukrops just don't understand Russia's tactical genius.
~~* stupid khokhols, we didn't even want the urals.
It's not a retreat if you leave billions of dollars of intact equipment
>TO BETTER FORTIFIED TERRITORIES
Where's that? Russia?
Also
>invade another country
>get kicked back across your own border
That does in fact mean you're losing.
Brave Sir Russia ran away.
("No!")
Bravely ran away away.
("I didn't!")
When danger reared it's ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
("I never!")
Yes, brave Sir Russia turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
("You're lying!")
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir Russia!
Well done anon, best post in the thread so far.
>NOOO YOU CAN'T RETREAT
That's about all they can do at this point.
festung moskva
Give me names of these better fortified territories.
They're regrouping at Vladivostok.
We didn't even want Irkutsk.
Russia's borders
The Urals
moscow and st petersburg
>retreat
>leaving behind kilotons of supplies and hundreds of vehicles
>First Guards Tank Army, the most prestitigous untis of the whole Russian Army, running in absolute disgrace aftern ot evne putting up a fight
iraqi regulars put up more of a fight against the US
Some, yes. And the Republican Guard's best division actually fricking took a stand that saw them virtually wiped out to a man, but genuinely saved half the iraqi army from getting overrun on their flight.
The Tawakalna Division literally conducted itself better than any russian unit did in this current shitshow. And that includes outfits like 4th Guards Tank and 2nd Guards Motor Rifle (the literal honor guard of the Kremlin). Like, holy fricking shit, when the Taman Fricking Guards disgrace themselves like that, you know this army is just completely FUBAR.
This is the most shameful thing I have heard in the last hour.
who win: russian army vs ANA lol
Depends whether the prize is a washing machine or a goat
ANA circa 2006-2009 would unironically have won.
Russkies. Bullying crappy militias with no/minimum heavy weaponry is about the one thing the Russians have displayed a minimal amount of competence at.
Neither, both get high on krokodil and hashish and frick eachother in the ass
guaranteed replies
>actually we're just withdrawing from the Seelow Heights to a more fortified position, we're not losing yet look at this article from Intel Stormer SS.
cheeky c**t
those better fortified territories were over the russian border
>our troops valiantly run away while the coward hohols pursue them in a panic, we cannot lose comrades!
>they keep fall for vatBlack personposting
After a certain point, you must come to terms that you have brain damage to delude yourself this bad, right?
>RETREAT TO BETTER FORTIFIED TERRITORIES
>russian border
Didn’t several helos breech russian borders and made gun runs on fuel depots?
That was fricking glorious, but I don't think they ever claimed responsibility.
No point in doing so since monke man would just spin it as if ukraine started a war of aggression. You know, the eternal victim playbook.
End of the day, it hurt russian forces and exposed the fact that they don’t even have any anti-air system in place, along the border of country you’re in a military conflict with.
>NOOO YOU CAN'T RETREAT TO BETTER FORTIFIED TERRITORIES
mount ural has the best fortifications
>fail to capture key objectives
>lose your flag ship in the black sea
>cede territory to the enemy
Ha ha take that Ukraine!
Why is that even necessary? Based on reliable Russian telegram ONIT experts Russia is winning.
Wouldn't territory you've held for eight fricking years be better fortified than whatever you've managed to scrabble for in the last few months?
I remade the thread on /misc/ so we can see exactly HOW they are going to spin it in real time. Get your popcorn.
They're just gonna bury it, anon. That board moves too fast.
>184 replies
Anon you are a lulzpoacher without peer.
>Taiwan flag
No guns Euro.
I hate /misc/ so much god damn wastes of oxegen
What a pack of morons.
What's happening at the Russian border? I would imagine loads of collaborators trying desperate to GTFO to Russia. Surely there are videos?
The army isn't letting them in, long lines of cars trying to frick off from Ukraine. Which is helpful in a way, makes it easier to identify traitors.
RU forces disguised as civvies are in amongst them
They were supposed to be Russian citizens over there, not in Russia
Their passport is a useless scrap of paper, they meant little more to Russia than the recently conquered people they pressed into service as cannon fodder
they're sending sailors to the front now lol
Afaik not a sailor, but a dockworker. See, losing all those ships menas they don't need as many of those anymore.
The day the war started I put $50 on Ukraine taking Moscow. Russia doesn't know how to fight against an actual military
>Russia doesn't know how to fight
FTFY. Couldn't even win in Afghanistan with the power of commie war crimes on their side.
New cope just dropped lads
I thought /misc/gays loved Europe due to it being white. what's with the goal post moving to simping for mongol hordes?
>almost like /misc/Black folk aren't white and are spiteful because of it
Oh they are, they've just been skullfricked for around 6 years by constant, self-serving Russian agitprop. They gave them the answer to their incel angst and are very efficient at manipulating their stupid asses. Don't overestimate your compatriots, there's abject dumb fricks everywhere.
Useful idiots
/misc/ doesn't truly believe in anything except being against whatever they've decided the israelites support this week
If Israel came out and said racial purity was the most important thing in the world /misc/ would start saying that actually white women having black babies is based
>/pol/
>white
Vatniks and /misc/tards are gullible untermenchen that love tonguing the anus of any sociopathic douche that can pretend to be "strong" in the most childish way possible.
When Muslims started rioting in Sweden after a right-winger burned a Quran earlier this year, I went to /misc/ thinking I'd see 2015 tier memes calling the rioters shitskins and how to the far-right party's surge in the polls during the riots was a massive whitepill. Imagine my shock when 90% of the threads talking about it were on the side of the Muslims and how the far-right are actually israelites.
/misc/ is super anti-christian now.
Anybody not dumping their life savings into USA based natural gas and oil companies is moronic. Europe will never trust a non western country for fuel again after this. Protip: TPL.
>Europe will never trust a non western country for fuel again after this.
Ehh, they will. Well, for a measure of "trust". They'll ensure that they have plenty of leverage and alternatives at hand.
Frick that, I'm dumping it all on Raytheon.
My man
I think you overstimate roids cognitive abilities
I bought Lockmart with my first paycheck, and Coke with my 2nd. God bless the two pillars of the US economy.
>I bought Coke with my 2nd paycheck.
Based--- oh wait, you meant Coca Cola stock.
By shilling harder - It'll be a literal shillstorm of dogshit until they get mobilized and sent to the front I'm afraid...
russia started this war mocking the Ukrainians, now they are absolutely terrified of them
A real Yankee Doodle moment
dont you get it you brain dead moron?
Ukraine is destroyed, all of it's infrastructure is shattered. Don't believe any of that shit about capturing kiev, or honoring agreements with the breakaway states. this was always about demilitarizing and destroying the nazi elements of the false unelected ukranian state. The more dead ukranians the better.
New cope just dropped lads
>Demilitarizing
Ukraine is more militarized than ever
>Destroying nazi
Ukraine is more pro nazi than ever
Also Nato is now on more of Russia's borders than they were at the start of the war and Russia is losing territory.
nazi
The Nazis being destroyed were rashists.
>this was always about demilitarizing
Why are you rearming them with your own equipment, then? Sounds counter productive.
have you seen them get ahold of anything but shitty tanks, out of date rpg's and ancient ifv/apc's? Before you argue about things like counter battery radar controls, and other "high tech" systems and devices being captured, there is a 99% chance that they are planted and assembled wrong in order to confuse NATO intelligence. This is a classic FSB move and it will pay dividends in the future.
Do not doubt russia's capability and spirit. This war could be turned around in a day if Russia decided to actually take it seriously and do something drastic. It would be an easy feat to annihilate Pine Gap and cut the NATO intelligence support down entirely if they felt the need to do so without triggering article 4.
I guarantee you that Western intelligence has bought at least one fully functional example of every single piece of tech Russia has. That shit walks off shelves.
>have you seen them get ahold of anything but shitty tanks, out of date rpg's and ancient ifv/apc's?
Have you visited "Russian equipment losses thread" for example Ukies captured russian modern anti-battery radars.
Read the full text you illiterate baldy.
Can't be arsed with your coping
>there is a 99% chance that they are planted and assembled wrong in order to confuse NATO intelligence
lol. This is next level cope
You're losing shit like the T-90 series, aka, the most modern tank you actually have that isn't pretendoware like the T-14, you are bleeding advanced tactical equipment and modernized systems faster than you could ever replace even before your discount dictator dragged Russia into a pointless war.
>It would be an easy feat to annihilate Pine Gap and cut the NATO intelligence support down entirely if they felt the need to do so without triggering article 4
Thanks for the laugh.
>there is a 99% chance that they are planted and assembled wrong in order to confuse NATO intelligence.
>This is a classic FSB move and it will pay dividends in the future.
>It would be an easy feat to annihilate Pine Gap and cut the NATO intelligence support down entirely if they felt the need to do so without triggering article 4.
>there is a 99% chance that they are planted and assembled wrong in order to confuse NATO intelligence.
And you think the CIA will just not notice that the shit was put together backwards and doesn't work?
>have you seen them get ahold of anything but shitty tanks, out of date rpg's and ancient ifv/apc's?
Sounds like standard russian equipment to me
>Russians flee, leaving their equipment behind.
>All the equipment is shit.
Anon...
>Before you argue about things like counter battery radar controls, and other "high tech" systems and devices being captured, there is a 99% chance that they are planted and assembled wrong in order to confuse NATO intelligence.
You legitimately believe that the FSB planted fake military equipment in all captured russian military vehicles and systems in a 5D chess move against NATO...that's the funniest fricking thing I've heard all week. russian cope is so next-level, it's possibly the only thing russia truly does well.
Do you have any idea where Pine Gap even is? You fricking moron, it's in the Australian desert. Out of range of your bombers, which would easily be seen by THE GIGANTIC RADAR INSTALLATION AT PINE GAP FROM HALF THE WORLD AWAY. And while we may not be in NATO, we happen to be rather close friends with them, though I suppose that friends might be an alien concept to a Russian... either way, that's a joint facility you're talking about. So, you would've pissed off:
>Australia, for attacking our soil and people
>America, for bombing their shit (they really hate that)
>Britain, because nobody fricks with the King's realms and gets away with it
>Canada, because Five Eyes and also being a realm of the King
Basically the entire Anglosphere at the very least, and that's not assuming that other members of the Western powers don't want to get involved, which I find unlikely at this juncture.
Good luck, frickwit.
Imagine: first Russian strategic bombers to get shot down since WW2 and it's by fricking Australians.
Fricking strayas I hate them so much, but their air defense ridiculous.
Australia, Canada, and Britain aren't real threats. They only get to play pretend at geo-politics because of their affiliation with the USA. A single salvo of standoff cruise missiles at population centers would force their capitulation.
If america retaliated against russia, it would mean immediate full exchange. A zero sum game the current administration isn't willing to risk.
Russia can act with impunity to secure it's interests. The collapsing "west" can do nothing but cope.
>demilitarizing
Ukraine how has a mobilized army with well trained soldiers using both advanced NATO weapons and about half of the entire stock of russia's armored vehicles which have been captured
>denazified
russia made azov more popular than ever, even internationally
russia lost a popularity contest against fricking nazis
So all of this was worth destroying much of your standing, contract army, including a number of prestige units, the lost of one of the few capital ships you have left, hundreds of tanks, thousands of vehicles, dozens of fightercraft, your international standing and trustworthiness, your economy, and 50 thousand+ human lives?
Also, heads up you made the Azov Battalion fricking local heroes with your dumbassery, if anything, you just lionized them by proving their hatred of Russia is completely justified, you literally gave Azov everything they could have wanted.
Before the war they were some rinky-dink volunteer battalion riding civilian vehicles into battle with some weird ass nazi imagery, now they're international heroes.
Truly a brilliant strategy from the kacap.
Azov was given only death, nobody in ukrain will lionize them, they failed to defend any of their objectives, they fled, died or were captured. These are not things to be celebrated. Besides Zelensky is under immense international pressure to jail and kill all Azov supporters. The second things cool off they'll be murdered or arrested and put on trial.
More to the point. Even if russia withdraws from the "nation" entirely. Every new military training ground, every new power plant, every new bridge, rail yard, anything that could lead to economic or social recovery. Will without question, be identified and bombed. There will be no ceasefire, there will be no end to hostilities. Ukraine will be starved and frozen as long as it takes to show them their only future is with russia. Then the rest of the CSTO will be forced to submit fully their territories to Russia. When they see how much russia is willing to persevere to get what they want, nobody will oppose them. Most of Eurasia will be begging to join, this includes prostitute states like Finland, Poland, and Sweden.
Okay do it pussy
First paragraph is good bait and will get nice replies. Second is a bit much and makes it too obvious. Either split them up into two seperate posts or just keep the Azov cope.
You think this is some kind of joke. Russia is committed to taking the land, the people will make the decision to go with it, die, or become parasites in EU member states. The parasites however, given time all opinion will turn against them. Eventually they will be forced to take Russia's offer of brotherhood or live as homeless pariah.
Russia has no leverage, go kvetch in private.
Parasites? Is that what your propaganda department is calling Russians who have had enough of your bullshit and managed to scrounge enough money to escape your glorified gas station? Bad enough you intend to make everyone miserable as some point of twisted pride, but now you have the gall to take offense of someone wanting to get out of a bad situation, that being the corrupted , corpse like entity known as the Russian Federation, who treats anyone with an IP over 80 as a potential treasonous seditionist
How can you type this out as an abject moron? Do you have a handler interpreting chromosomese into cherent text?
Absolutely delusional.
G8 B8 M8 8/8
You're fricking delusional, Russia's international standing and prestige is utterly ruined, No one trusts them. All the world sees isn't perseverance , its a spiteful bully that lives in the past, and despises the fact one of its former subordinates is actually trying to make something of itself instead of childishly chasing after the past that was the Soviet Union, your Russia WILL be forced to the negotiating table, you WILL sign the documents, you WILL pay reparation's for your senseless war of imperial aggression, and you WILL honor it, if you ever want to even be remotely accepted back into the graces of civilized society.
Russia will be forced to kill you all. Russia without Ukraine is an existential threat to Russia. You must understand, you are making them do this. This is NATO's fault for continuing to punish Russia for fulfilling it's destiny as a nation. They don't need the "trust" of other nations, they need cognizance of their position and for them to understand Russia's future in much the same way as they understand America's hegemony. There will be two super powers. One will be Russia, there are no excuses. It will be this way, or there will be no future for anyone. Russia has been backed into this corner over the last 30 years, it will not be a member or client or vassal. None of those positions will be acceptable. You are in danger by propagating this falsehood of russian "imperialism". Assess your outlook before it is too late.
As long as Russia is gone in the end, every sacrifice is fine.
>Russia will be forced to kill you all
You must be 18 to post on this website, go back to whining about your parents taking you to Sunday school
>Russia will be forced to kill you all.
With laughter?
Oh here we go, the age old 'Why did you make me hit you" excuse, do you take all your lines from shitty lifetime movies?
Well knowing certain users (cough cough America First gays) they will quote films they never watched to seem "cultured" when they're no better than marvel consoomers
why are vatniks obsessed with marvel movies? is it something in your water?
Those garbage movies are a global phenomenon, that's all the entertainment they get.
>doesn't know about America first gays lead by Hispanic Fuentes
I was mocking Russia shills you dumbass, a lot of them happen to be from Fuentes "organization" that shills for Russia and china
Now that I had to explain the joke it's no longer funny
it wasn't funny before you explained either
Fair enough
it is not an excuse, this is a fact, there was no existential threat to america or nato, yet they involved themselves anyway after 2014. You are the aggressors. This is undeniable fact
Translation: there was no existential threat to Russia, yet they constantly tried to destroy Ukraine, even invaded. They'll surely try again if they're left with a standing army after this.
This is like the Kaiserboo cope with saying "noooo we had to attack the Entente" not realizing their leader's dumbass (in the case of the German Empire, Kaiser Wilhelm) that of pushing various countries that were semi friendly towards you into opposing factions.
Because you were invading another fricking country in Europe dumbass, That's kind of something that gets European nations out of their seats and pay the frick attention.
They kind of have a vested interest in not letting a tinpot dictator run around in their backyard, funny that.
Just accept the fact Ukraine doesn't want to be a part of Russia and wants to be its own nation, why does that offend you so much?
Russia has accepted that fact. Their opinion is irrelevant to the Russian state. They have to be made to understand their best path is to cease fighting and join.
God you sound like an abusive ex boyfriend.
The russian states opinion is irrelevant, they have to be made to understand their best path is to cease fighting.
Unfortunately I do not represent the state. I wish they would entertain peace. But they will not. I am trying to make this clear. They. Will. Not. You are in danger by allowing public opinion of this war to swing so hard in ukraines favor.
>But they will not. I am trying to make this clear. They. Will. Not.
Then I think you should consider making them consider peace.
>You are in danger by allowing public opinion of this war to swing so hard in ukraines favor
Imagine losing the shitposting war so hard you feel people on the other side shitposting on an image board are serious threats.
>I do not represent the state.
Thanks for proving my beliefs that you are some amerimutt simping for Russia to seem "counter-culture"
Then they can bleed while they seethe helplessly, they don't have the power to coerce anyone to do anything.
Russia can't intimidate Ukraine any more. Those days are over.
Then Russia will be made to understand it, or will be made incapable of continuing to fight. If Putin wants to throw every last military-age male in Russia to their deaths, and the russian people are too cucked to disagree? Then Ukriane and the West will oblige. Simple as.
>This is undeniable fact
>The rest of the world denies it.
What did they mean by this?
This is why more and more people point their guns and missiles at you insane morons.
how does he do it
This has got to be scripted bullshit
>muh destiny
Here's your fricking destiny, you had 30 years to improve just the basics and managed to fail on every metric. People are poor, the rich own everything in Russia and they want more that their neighbours have through military adventurism. The adventures over, no one bough the agi-prop except really fricking stupid people and as demonstrated ability goes to behave as even a premier totalitarian shithole, they even managed to fail there as Ukraine pushes that shit back over its borders.
What that's called is REALITY
You aren't the astronauts and tiger wranglers you hoped you'd be, some people aren't destined to be brain surgeons or CEO's, sometimes they're just cut out to flip burgers and dig holes. Now that its out there and swinging in the breeze for everyone to see as anyone smart fled Russia as soon as they can, you're a nation of slaves run by a mafia government and living on the rust belt of the soviet weapons stockpiles.
Are you describing russia or america? Zero self awareness.
Not him but he's clearly describing Russia.
I'm not american you filthy wienersucker
who is these days? I understand the common heritage now is mexican or african
Your heritage is a piss soaked, frozen shit hole that's infested by degenerates. I hardly think the Americans have too much to worry about
I swear I remember seeing that in Russia you can make more money drawing Furry porn than a lot of actual hard working jobs due to tax bullshittery, correct me if I'm wrong.
Anywhere in the third world you can make good money taking fetish commissions from IT autists with more money then sense, since you can charge them what would be a pocket money to an American but a hefty amount of money compared to local wages.
>"soviet era stockpiles"
>mentions russia a couple times in the copypasta
>ITS THIS USA OR RUSSIA? CAN'T TELL
Holy frick you're moronic
Pretty sure america had monster logistics to wage a 20 year war over the atlantic ocean. Russian forces couldn’t even take half of a small country that borders them.
>America could do a overseas war with Afghanistan for 20 years (even if they lost in the end)
>Soviets couldn't handle barely 10 years in the same country with a land border
USA didn't have the largest illicit spy apparatus on earth working against them feeding the taliban illegal long rage weapon systems targeting their logistics, simpleton
Pretty sure russian supply line wasn’t targeted in the first few weeks of the invasion when they couldn’t even get fuel to their frontlines, or did you forget that shitshow?
>Russia will be forced to kill you all.
That means absolutely nothing when Russia doesn't have the capability to kill them.
>Russia without Ukraine is an existential threat to Russia
>Russia is an existential threat to Russia
nailed it, comrade
Why do you talk like a villain from a shitty made for TV movie? Why are you so melodramatic?
>Quark
>villain
He's the only true hero on that space station.
COME TO QUAR/k/'S
QUAR/k/'S IS FUN
DON'T WALK
RUN!
Quark is a filthy israelite but he had a hot Klingon wife that stunk of wet dog and that's pretty based. I wish they did more with Garot tho. but no, we need at least 4 episodes of station roasties every season.
I’m 100% willing to play nuclear chicken, do it, kill us, you lose too, I’ll be happy to see you in hell
>Russia gone
Based!
>Europe gone
Ehh
>US and Canada gone
Ehhh??
>China gone
Based!
>world that remains is Africa and South America meaning the human race is largely doomed forever
Ehh
It’s all supposed to happen anyway that way the antichrist and NWO can rise and Christ can slap their shit
You need to stop letting /misc/ take charge of your education and frick off back to school, kid. You're going to end up sucking wiener for quarters at a bus stop if you keep like this.
>Russia needs Ukraine to survive
Oh so you admit that they're the only reason you c**ts ever got anywhere?
>it will not be a member or client or vassal
Too late. Ping already owns your ass now. But that aside, Russia has always thought they were one of two main characters in the game. Even in the 1700s they seethed at the rest of Europe. Russia wants to be one of the main characters but will never be because of how stupid they are. Constantly obsessing's over what they want to be instead of actually doing it. China has a better chance of being the second super power.
>Most of Eurasia will be begging to join, this includes prostitute states like Finland, Poland, and Sweden.
lol
t. Finn
>Azov was given only death
Also food and blankets stolen right from supply crates meant for Donbabweans.
Well they gave back plenty.
It's funny because Russia has gotten more Russians killed in just these few months of the war than Ukraine has supposedly 'oppressed' since 1991.
By an order of magnitude at least
Did you not get the new script to gloat about how Europe is going to freeze or how the rout in the east is actually a ploy to draw Ukrainians into a trap? This is shit I saw in February. Get new material.
>demilitarizing
RUSSIA IS LITERALLY UKRAINES BIGGEST SUPPLIER OF HEAVY WEAPONS AND AFVS AT THIS POINT!
>this was always about demilitarizing the ukranian state.
Reminder: Lend-Lease doesn't start until October.
/k/ is at the point now that it’s actually a waste of time. The degree of fake news shilling and signaling is through the roof. Anons are sitting in here literally play-pretending in a fake reality. It’s getting to be not worth even browsing.
>N-NO IT'S NOT TRUE RUSSIA ISN'T LOSING THEY AREN'T
>/k/ is at the point now that it’s actually a waste of time.
Yeah, I don't know why you and your glavset wiener buddies even bother coming here. Humiliation must get you off.
Where do you get your news from?
respected news personalities such as Tucker Carlson, truthful media such as RT, and the gold standard of accurate reporting, Serbs on Twitter
This is a false flag. I can tell because you didn't mention Imma Slave Z and all the conscripts the West is trying to bury.
Incel Slava Z has outlived his usefulness.
>Intel Slava Z is being more honest about Russia getting btfo then the shills on this site
Too bad he's gonna commit suicide by jumping out a window head first while triple tapping himself in the back of the head with an AK. The infinite variations of the channel name, what the West was trying to hide, and the much obliged reply was one of the evergreen memes.
AGREED
Any readers here, beware of shills. The only accurate infos you can get about special military operation is from official russian government.
Can I ask a question? Why is it that when there’s a fake vid or a real vid but with the sides reversed it’s 90% of the time a pro-Ukrainian poster? Why is that? Is it that you trash literally don’t even care about who is winning and just wants social rewards on the internet? What kind of imbecile does that every day? Do you suffer from depression or some other psychiatric disorder and you do this shit as a form of symptom management?
Meme warfare is very real, and it's working wonders on you.
Working? To do what, aggravate sane people living in the real world? How does that benefit either side in an infowar? Just stop it already and admit you’re literally here for updoots.
Nice leftist meme
lol
I didn't even need to see the meme, I just saw the shill was a fricking leaf and knew then to throw their opinion in the trash
>didn't deny you're a israelite
Nobody read your leftist meme of a post. They just loled at it.
Ironic
>/pol/
A puppet for Russia, /misc/ppets even? I'm shocked!
add it to the feint pile
>Russian Trollfarmers understand more about feints and are more effective using them than actual Russian military officials.
UKR past the Oskil river
>https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1569487908880683009
are they bypassing Lyman?
can they keep this rate of advance?
No they can’t. Ukrainians don’t have much mechanization and the majority of troops have to walk. They’ll get fatigued. On the plus side the opposition isn’t trying to fight; they are simply walking into vacated territories.
A huge problem would normally be over-extension opening up to a pincer or having rear lines cut. However this risk is mitigated by NATO intel which can alert them the moment something seems to be forming.
>Ukrainians don’t have much mechanization
This is a lie, and the Russians have made sure it's not the case anyway.
I'm worried about you, buddy, I know they hire people with disorders at the glavset but it can't be healthy for your mental well being.
I stated a clear fact. There is NO evidence to the contrary. A few days ago I even saw a video of a huge column of Ukrainian troops WALKING for the advance (wish I had saved it). We have a huge amount of video and photo evidence of Russian mechanization; giant convoys of trucks, BTRs, BMPs and other misc. military vehicles — not even counting the civilian vehicles. I haven’t seen a SINGLE video showing something similar from Ukraine.
But since you think I’m lying that must mean there’s plenty of evidence to the contrary (therefore I could only be lying). So, please share. Correct my lie.
They're called DISMOUNTS you fricking cretin, Russia hasn't got any of those in its motorised units because they'd rather stay in the hull and burn with the vehicle
more like nomounts, all of those humvees and m117's swiss cheesed by small arms
May I see them?
check oryx for yourself, sweaty mutt c**t
I think they may have more than one hummvee. May I see the rest?
I saw them tangling with a particularly stubborn hedgehog who didn't want to get off the road
He put up more resistance than the russians
>I saw them tangling with a particularly stubborn hedgehog
Oooooh, I know who you're talking about.
Imbecile. I asked for evidence of mechanization. You called me a name and said "dismounts". You must have plenty of evidence of what the troops were mounted on while marching to different sectors of the battlefield. Convoys please. Not one or two BTRs and trucks / vans driving by to pick up guys retreating from their trenches. Piling up on top to make use of every square inch.
The fact that they covered such a large area in 3 or 4 days. It's just common sense. Why you're clinging to this idiotic idea that the Ukrainian army is walking everywhere is your own problem.
You think Ukraine recaptured 3000 square kilometres of ground in less than 4 days without mechanization?
And you're calling other people imbeciles?
They were airdropped by Bayraktars
Yeah, newslfash, kiddo: That video? That was a literal airsoft LARP group, milabeled by vatnik propaganda for their regular screaming about "Volkssturm".
And gee, Ukrainians OPSEC is working? Who'da thunk?
Menawhile virtually every video from them on this offensive saw the presence of motorised or mechanised transports on hand or in action.
You're being a gigantic schizo. Are you the same guy who kept claiming the Ukrainians have no mechanised or armored formations whatsoever in the days right after 93rd Mech stomped on 4th GTD for the first time?
Yeah
Oinkranian fake, this is Garry's Mod footage
The fact Ukr troops have to walk is still insane to me.
Maybe it's because it's not true, but you keep on replying to your own posts, it's amusing to watch. It's totally having an impact on the field.
I think they have plenty of F150s and Hiluxes, not many APCs or HMMWVs
Hundreds of captured russian trucks and AFVs laugh at your post.
>the opposition isn’t trying to fight; they are simply walking into vacated territories.
"Our troops are routing when the enemy isn't even in sight" is not the own you think it is.
>they cut the P-66
HOLY SHIT, looks like Severodonetsk is back on the menu, boys!
I'll bite, why are they pushing south now instead of east?
Weakest point?
Consolidate forces, form stronger arrow, make an another pushrough as russian forces are still disorganized, keep up the tempo.
cut off the Izyum sector troops, which incidentally is where most of the elite Russian units were located
And you lynch Black folks!
Yes. Yes we do.
>If only
Only those uppity Black folks working hard to get out of the ghetto. Regular ass homies are okay.
>Russian propaganda makes America seem bad ass again
Time for Crimea? Does Ukraine have the momentum and equipment?
They've had to do nothing for years I suppose because of the risk of escalation, but Putin escalated all on his own, so they should be fine to push back now right?
>that webm
Question for the rest of the world, is "seal" an insult where you are from? Because in my country thats a derogatory term for idiots who blindly follow the leader, as in "you clap like a seal waiting for a treat"
Not really? Since in military terms most think of the SEALs. Otherwise I don't think most people think about seals often enough to care about them.
>for months the Ukrainians lost ground and retreated from their positions
>Ukrainian shills claimed it was "tactical withdrawl" and "UMM ACKSHULLAY THOSE TOWNS AND THAT LAND SERVES NO TACTICAL ADVANTAGE we let them take it" ect
>Russia for the first time since the infamous "Kiev feint" has retreated and some lost ground
How is this so different? Why are you all acting like this war is over? Are any of you capable of rationally responding or are you just going to shit your pants and scream vatnik at me?
Truly funny to watch the cognitive dissonance tho.
Can you tell me the difference between Russia's rate of advance and Ukraine's?
That doesn't answer my question, and honestly I dont sperg out over this whole thing so why would I know or care about the "rate of advance" for either side?
>I dont sperg out over this whole thing
>Russia will be forced to kill you all. Russia without Ukraine is an existential threat to Russia. You must understand, you are making them do this. This is NATO's fault for continuing to punish Russia for fulfilling it's destiny as a nation. They don't need the "trust" of other nations, they need cognizance of their position and for them to understand Russia's future in much the same way as they understand America's hegemony. There will be two super powers. One will be Russia, there are no excuses. It will be this way, or there will be no future for anyone. Russia has been backed into this corner over the last 30 years, it will not be a member or client or vassal. None of those positions will be acceptable. You are in danger by propagating this falsehood of russian "imperialism". Assess your outlook before it is too late.
Don't even pretend that isn't you.
>inb4 he posts an edited picture with the (You) removed
Ukraine has been losing ground inch by inch over the course of months, a slow process. Most retreats are organized, and in good order, refusing to get bogged down in pointless engagements, trading slight territory loss for time, classic defense in depth
Russia meanwhile, has lost all its gains in the north in such a spectacular fashion in such an disorganized fashion, while the Ukies have been retaking territory hand over fist with minimum losses
Can you not see the fricking difference here?
See I get that Russia's recent retreat was sloppy and bad, but did you get amnesia and forget a few months back Ukrainians were surrendering in the hundreds? They really fricked up and got surrounded and routed a bunch of times to lose all that territory.
All of their retreats haven't been masterstrokes like you claim. The problem is you people are so concerned with pushing a narrative that you just omit reality when it suits you. You really expect everyone to just forget about all that?
Idk its just hard to take you all seriously when you're mostly just dishonest clowns and theres like 20 pro-Ukraine spam threads on /k/ daily.
Be serious. Canada is a more competent military than the Ukraine's.
Take the meds.
>forget a few months back Ukrainians were surrendering in the hundreds?
When did that happen?
Your buddy here admits it
Guess you're trying to forget recent events to. He just minimizes it and pretends that wasn't the beginning of the Russian steamroll that took a bunch of land and killed many Ukrainians.
Listen Russia is getting beaten back for sure, but please be honest and stop acting like moronic cartoon characters. You people need to stop spamming this board with all these moronic threads too, seriously.
>Your buddy here admits
He admits the Mariopol surrender, which is a fricking dishonest to compare to this.
this dude just reminded me of the stories of DNR troops getting kicked out of hospital beds to treat the Azovstal defenders
Russia fricked up so bad that they got humiliated during the one time they accepted a mass surrender in this war
Some idiot you manipulated into bargaining doesn't change reality, kid. You can't use mental gymnastics to change the reality of the situation.
>a few months back Ukrainians were surrendering in the hundreds? They really fricked up and got surrounded and routed a bunch of times to lose all that territory
Can we talk about things that actually happened please?
The only mass surrender was Mariupol, after months of fighting where AZOV and the marines chose to stay to buy time for Ukraine, a willing heroic sacrifice.
Russians meanwhile are heroically hauling looted washing machines home as fast as they can.
These things did happen. Not long ago and widely reported on. For one example, did you REALLY, honestly forget about Azovstal? If not, why this lying?
>For one example, did you REALLY, honestly forget about Azovstal? If not, why this lying?
Did you miss the part where Mariupol is explicitly mentioned?
>Azovstal
That's in Mariupol dumbass
>Be serious. Canada is a more competent military than the Ukraine's.
I really have nothing much to say to this moronation so I'll just say, lol gay.
Aww ass hurt? Little baby gonna cry? Maybe piss and shit his pants?
I didn't say anything pro-Russian, so you pretty much just come across as some kind of pathetic cheerleader for your "side". I'm just a casual observer.
Idk chief seems like both sides have won and lost battles, and the war isn't over yet.
Why?
Idk buddy I think people like you who are frothing at the mouth over all this seem equally pathetic and gay.
>and the war isn't over yet.
It pretty much is, Ukraine is consistently getting powerful weapons from the west while Russia can't replace the equipment it has lost.
Serious question tho: Is the US going to be able to keep funding this war? Aren't they going to run out of equipment meant for their own military?
Don't they depend on resources from China to manufacture many of those components?
>Aren't they going to run out of equipment meant for their own military?
lmao, no. The Military Industrial Complex is one of the most powerful economic institutions on Earth, and since America isn't in any intense wars right now they're more than happy to keep those factories running supplying Ukraine.
>Don't they depend on resources from China
Taiwan actually, which is fine by them since the USA can expand its own military granting protection to them as well.
>The Military Industrial Complex is one of the most powerful economic institutions on Earth
Brainlet take. It's the American Civilian Industrial Complex that's the real war winner. All those tax dollars going to US Govt coffers to be spent on weapons
>bbbbut muh offshore tax
Keep in mind the IRS isn't b***hing about not being paid; they're b***hing about not being paid ENOUGH. Also corporations have to spend their money domestically as well e.g. on staff and the trickle down from that is HUGE.
>Isn't the US experiencing a recession and inflation right now?
EVERYONE is in the shit. But the US is on top of the shitheap. Winning is relative.
>As far as spending your way out of a recession goes, this is a fairly safe bet
Not for ever, and I've yet to see a Fed or President take the fiscal cliff dive
Me being one of them, but again, in terms of war winning it won't be a problem for the US.
>I suspect not given that most of what is being sent is already in the arsenal
The arsenal needs to be replenished and the money needs to be printed to do that.
The flipside however is that Russia is printing too and printing more. Though it must be said Putin can put his civvies through more hardship than the US can. But the US is way more comfortable so I wouldn't bet on Russia winning the inflation war.
Grow up.
Other NATO members are also buying up, and will continue to do so. RU is getting straight shown up and anyone paying attention is going to want a piece of what we got. Performance talks and RU has shown little to impress, with even worse results against what we got.
>Serious question tho: Is the US going to be able to keep funding this war?
Yes. They are destroying one of their two primary geopolitical rivals for pennies on the dollar.
>Aren't they going to run out of equipment meant for their own military?
No. They are sending literal rounding error amounts of gear relative to total stocks. Ammunition expenditure is a bit more significant. Ukraine blew up all those supply depots with 16 HIMARS units - there are nearly 600 in service with orders for hundreds more, and mind you this is a vehicle which is functionally just a low cost twist on 1980s technologies.
>Don't they depend on resources from China to manufacture many of those components?
Not really. The military industrial complex very specifically has secure supply chains which avoids using parts which would require sourcing from China or other hostile nations.
The United States also has some of the largest proven mineral and energy reserves in the world.
Ironically, in terms of self sufficiency, the USofA (plus Canuckistan) are what Russia aspired to be in regards to self sufficiency.
The US hasn't even sent aircraft yet. Or tanks. Or IFVs.
The only real gamechanger at this point would be enough western tanks to be worth the logistical burden, which would give Ukraine the punch needed to go head to head with Russian armor.
The trouble with that is that western AA and SHORAD are kinda lacking because the West generally prefers to secure their armor via friendly air cover, which isn't an option for Ukraine, so there's not much in terms of accompanying AA to send with those tanks, which might be why it hasn't happened yet.
Okay, one correction here. F-35s were recently grounded and inspected because Honeywell used Chinese metal to make components.
Incorrect. They weren't grounded, there was merely a pause to deliveries that Lockmart later confirmed had zero effect on actual production, all because Honeywell didn't realize that they were using a chinese produced alloy for the magnets in... I want to say the engine but I don't really remember because it wasn't important. It was such a non-issue that instead of actually making any changes, they just applied for the normal 'this is such a generic part that it's not a security concern if we suddenly lose Chinese suppliers and have to replace them as a source' waiver and have kept on using cranking the F35s out.
All of this is correct, broadly speaking.
Quality post from nighttime /k/
true but happens all the time. supply chain is strong in the clutch all in all
>Is the US going to be able to keep funding this war? Aren't they going to run out of equipment meant for their own military?
The gulf in difference between the military might of #1 and #2 (Formerly Russia now probably China) is fricking huge. The biggest airforce in the World is the USAF. The 2nd biggest airforce is USN. Even before the war, USA would have crushed Russia and China combined in a conventional war.
>Aren't they going to run out of equipment meant for their own military?
Ukraine has received only a drop in the bucket when it comes to US weapons and the MIC is frothing at the mouth with a massive erection at the thought of getting paid to increase production
>Don't they depend on resources from China to manufacture many of those components?
Not really. In fact, it was recently discovered a magnet used in the F-35 was made using an alloy sourced from China. Using components or materials from a non-friendly nation is forbidden to be the point that a single magnet used for a non-critical component in a single model of aircraft caused a minor scandal in the US defense industry.
*discovered that a magnet
*forbidden to the point
God, I shouldn't try writing stuff when I'm tired.
yeah thats crazy haha
>I didn't say anything pro-Russian, so you pretty much just come across as some kind of pathetic cheerleader for your "side". I'm just a casual observer
The impotent seethe from your posts is coming through quite well though
I'm glad that someone simply questioning your rationale and asking simple questions causes you to come unglued and sperg out, insinuating they're a "Russianbot".
Makes you seem like a really reasonable and normal person who I want to agree with, not some kind of crazed homosexual who lashes out at anyone who disagrees or wants to know why. No, certainly not.
Hmm ok. Isn't the US experiencing a recession and inflation right now? Doesn't that factor into their ability to utilize the "most powerful economic institution on earth"?
I really don't see how its more impactful. Maybe if the Ukrainians take as much territory as Russia did in the same amount of time or less it could be, but its too early to say.
I think its still too early to call it.
Thanks for the detailed reply.
>Makes you seem like a really reasonable and normal person who I want to agree with, not some kind of crazed homosexual who lashes out at anyone who disagrees or wants to know why. No, certainly not.
Do you think you come off as anything other than a smug insufferable c**t who's internally seething and desperately trying to appear rational and logical as you demand people take your more unhinged points seriously?
You never did answer the question about how you thought Ukrainians took 3000sq km of terrain without being mechanized btw.
>some queer who posts a chud-wojak is calling me smug
kek
>Hmm ok. Isn't the US experiencing a recession and inflation right now? Doesn't that factor into their ability to utilize the "most powerful economic institution on earth"?
As far as spending your way out of a recession goes, this is a fairly safe bet. The vast majority of money spent on weapons goes straight back into the American economy to be taxed again, because the defense industry is such an enormous employer.
Add on top of that, that it's a great distraction, polls well, and removes Russia from the board and it's safe to say that the government would be absolutely crazy not to leap on this opportunity.
Virtually everyone is suffering recession and inflation right now, so in absolute terms the United States still has vastly more economic weight with which to bludgeon Russia.
It also helps that Eastern European NATO members are doing more than their share to shoulder the burden because they have a vested interest in seeing Russia implode.
You can't really "spend your way out of inflation" tho, and actually printing more money for say sending billions to Ukraine, will actually cause inflation to worsen.
You're correct that everyone is suffering under the strain of the dollar. I guess the bet is that it can withstand all this spending and printing, but there are lots of economists who don't sound overly optimistic.
>You can't really "spend your way out of inflation"
You can out of a recession, though. Or rather, you can lessen the impact.
>and actually printing more money for say sending billions to Ukraine, will actually cause inflation to worsen.
Correct, though I can't speak as to whether that's going to be done via printing. I suspect not given that most of what is being sent is already in the arsenal.
Wait, wait, wait! You think the Yanks are actually just going to print off like billions of dollars and ship them to Ukraine on pallets?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH holy frick you are moronic!
>Isn't the US experiencing a recession and inflation right now? Doesn't that factor into their ability to utilize the "most powerful economic institution on earth"?
No, not really, no matter how else the economy is affected, the military is always going to get its toys.
>Isn't the US experiencing a recession and inflation right now? Doesn't that factor into their ability to utilize the "most powerful economic institution on earth"?
The stuff we're sending is taken out of existing US stockpiles. A lot of it would be past its expiration date within a few years and need to be replaced anyway. As an example, the Russians released a photo of the wreckage of a HARM that they claimed had been intercepted by their air defense. The missile's data plate was clearly visible and said the manufacturer's warranty expired in 1991.
Other things are borderline obsolescent. For instance in 2022, the DoD put out a request for a new MANPADS to replace the Stinger, which is over 40 years old at this point.
Even the GMLRS and ATACMS missiles (both of which are currently in active service with the US military) that Ukraine was given alongside HIMARS are going to start being phased out in favor of the extended range version of the GMLRS and the new PRSM (Precision Strike Missile).
Even with the stuff the US military is planning to keep in service for the foreseeable future has already been paid for. We don't need to order their replacements in a single batch. The cost can be spread out over multiple years' budgets. Assuming we don't wind up in a full-scale war with China or Iran until 2025 or so, the temporary reduction in our wartime reserves won't have any noticeable effects other than increasing the price of Raytheon shares.
Hell, we could give Ukraine a couple of brigades' worth of Abrams tanks just using the spares we've "prepositioned" in European warehouses to use in the event WW3 breaks out on short notice. Provided we have 30-40 days prior warning, we could ship the ones currently being used by the active armor brigades in the continental United States.
tldr; the US military-industrial complex is ridiculously--- almost clownishly--- overpowered.
>Why?
Completely different situations. Mariupol was completely surrounded, cut off from supplies, ran out of ammo, faced the full power of fresh russian forces, had to be completely wiped out by massed artillery, and still lasted for months.
Whereas here Russians had direct supply lines, were not surrounded, and either routed or surrendered after a breakthrough.
I would say the ones who have these currently are winning;
The initiative (from day one), superior arms, the biggest stake in victory, modern training, civilian support and widespread support from around the world.
I would say the country that has those qualities is winning.
A super power does not perform the way Russia has. They're losing the war and no amount of crying on your part will change that. Russia is not wanted in that country and they are being physically removed.
Canuck military is utter shite. We could ACTUALLY be in Toronto in 2 days.
>They really fricked up and got surrounded and routed a bunch of times to lose all that territory.
That just makes it even more stupid that Russia managed to be forced into a retreat. They were in a good position and managed to frick up so badly that they're now losing formerly secure positions.
I'm just gonna skip the preamble and tell you to go frick yourself.
>Idk its just hard to take you all seriously when you're mostly just dishonest clowns and theres like 20 pro-Ukraine spam threads on /k/ daily.
I don't know mate, it's hard to take you seriously when you're seething, malding and autistically screeching because Russia is getting BTFO.
Still, I get it. There's a shelf life on pro-Russia trolling, because pretty soon the war will be over and Russia will have lost. Gotta get your jollies while you still can.
Bruh. You can call it whatever you want. But the ukis have been consistently kicking ass the whole operation. Yeah you get losses and captures. This isn't c&c where you can retry a mission when you frick up. Ukis have had RU on the ropes since day 1 and I'm not afraid to say it.
>How is this so different?
1. It is not a peer conflict and should not be happening at all unless Russia is weak enough to not be able to defend its positions.
2. Ukrainian withdrawals were actually tactical when their positions were in danger of being overrun. Also relatively controlled because Russians did not really manage to capture that much of ukrainian equipment or get prisoners.
3. It took russia months to get a tiny villages and now they are losing those villages in dozens. And also major logistics centers while at it.
>How is this so different?
Because it's like if the USA had to retreat in a war against fricking Canada.
More so imagine this.
America semi balkanized and the remnants of the US government tried to invade Texas and had an extremely hard time doing so. I feel that's a more fair comparison
>Okrainian tells a lie
Wow, riveting.
>Russian malding
Wow, uncanny.
I can't even IMAGINE being an unironic Russia supporter on the internet right now.
These people are so utterly mindbroken that they're forced to lie through their teeth, ignore reality, and proclaim to the world that their alcoholic fever-dreams are the truth to save face, while their country's desperate 30-year efforts to dig its way out of the state it found itself in when the USSR fell apart all come to ruin because a monke wanted some banan.
I almost feel bad for making fun of them.
I'm pretty sure the samegay in this thread is a troll who's larping as a pro-russian to get his jollies.
>unironic
It's all shitposting for (You)s
they aren't bothering.
It's habbennnning as we speak
Cool, hang the fricking manlet from a pole, everyone go home and no more dying sounds good to me
Some 'strong, traditionalist, political leader' he turned out to be, he's running away to his mansion to suck his thumb
What a loser.
He's a fricking manlet with a complex. They never learn, do they?
Something something Gorbachev's house arrest in Crimea something something.
Is ASB of all people really questioning Putin's decisions?
I don't think Putin is making decisions anymore, dude.
God imagine declaring a military that has been fighting you in a conventional war a terrorist organization just because its beating your ass like a dirty rug.
If that's true, he's also effectively declaring that this will be a fight for survival.
He can declare what he wants. Here's the problem, Russian people don't care. They don't believe it's a fight for survival, they don't want to fight and it seems like very little can induce them to fight.
Putin set out to atomize Russian society and turn it into a place where nobody believes anything. He succeeded, but the problem with that is that if nobody believes anything, nobody believes in anything and nobody will fight for anything apart from money. And it's pretty clear there's no money in invading Ukraine.
Or did you think Russia was recruiting homeless, criminals and grandfathers for fun?
I mean, he went for the capital. At least he's being honest now.
>calling them names will solve all our problems
what does it take for russia to simply admit they are losing?
what sort of military infrastructure is a theatre housing civilians?
>Verification not required
To the average RU poster that is either BS or just unlucky inaccuracy that RU should not be blamed for.
Reminds me on the early Donbass after years of Ukrainian shelling vs. two weeks of special operations memes
Mostly peaceful feint
Serious question guys, what if they're pulling back troops with the intention to use tactical nukes on the areas that ukranians are taking back?
The US is telling them not to even dream about it.
If they do nuke they would have to nuke the whole line to be effective as the Ukes have dispersed considerably already to avoid artillery, missile and airstrikes. Such a large-scale use of even tactical nukes would I think be condemned by literally everyone, even China
Putin's control over the media back at home is so effective that the Russians posting here are pretty much living in a parallel universe, absolutely schizo hours.
Kino, just kino.
Hope they snatch a few more offcer ranks.