>Russia seized part of American weapons for Ukraine and gave it to Iran to create analogues, - CNN with reference to the Pentagon
>According to the US military, the Russians sent samples of captured weapons to Iran in order to try to create similar weapons based on it.
>Among the transferred samples are Javelin anti-tank systems and MANPADS.
It is not clear whether Iran has successfully reverse-engineered any of the US weapons captured in Ukraine, but Tehran has shown great expertise in developing weapons systems based on US equipment captured earlier, the article emphasizes.
Soon they'll have samples of M2 Bradley and M1 abrams armored vehicles to send Iran for study and countermeasures.
>Iran copies 80's Javalins, 80's manpads and 80's tanks
>On the cusp of the mass drone age
I'm sure it'll help lmao
Iran hacked and captured a American drone a few years back.
>a few years back.
Oh no boys, we're toast.
He never said that the US was toast lol. Stop exaggerating.
What's next? Will they import Nvidia GPUs and reverse engineer those as well?
My god
Amazing.
Now tell us about the time the US and garden gnomes unleashed a virus that targeted SCADA systems in Iran and basically trolled the everloving shit out of their nuclear enrichment program for years.
They did their best to reverse engineer it, the result was their hobby grade shitdrones that stop working in cold weather.
Funny how every turd world country have a single military feat that they use ad nauseam, like Serbia and the F-117
If you were an emaciated cancer patient, and you managed to smack Mike Tyson with a cane once without immediately being murdered, you'd probably never let it go.
>USA send Javelin to Ukraine
>Zogbot: WOW AMAZING, BEST ANTI TANK WEAPON EVER
> Iran copy Javelin
>Zogboy : javelin sucks so much lol, 80's shit weapon
Western world is realy doomed with retards like you lol
>Russia can't counter a weapon made in the 1980s
>Russia can't counter a weapon that costs more than the vehicle it is supposed to destroy
the weapon counters itself
>surely we can outspend the west THIS time!
For what it's worth Javelins are half the cost of a T-72 lel
russians will just replace all those destroyed T-72's with brand new amatas anyday now
That's not even remotely true anon. You are disingenuous at best.
Mediocre bait
>if you kill a Russian with anything you lose as it costs more to kill him than his life was worth.
Checkmate West.
Iran can't even make drones that hit moving targets, what makes you think they can even copy a javelin?
They have? Also yes they can. They've reverse engineered lots of other technologies lol. It's not rocke-..... you know what I mean
And whatever brown hovel you're from is doomed to remain irrelevant if everyone there types like your lead-poisoned ass.
they made some pretty neat concrete that looks like it came out of the age of the battleship armor.
>shit weapon,it sucks
litteraly nobody said anything of this you absolute weirdo
why are you brown?
>pidorashka has to resort to straw man arguments
I'm shocked.
They’re paid to keep the narrative going one direction. They will never give ground and always spin any story to the benefit of their paymasters.
>a US carrier group gets greased by Chinese anti ship missile spam
wowzers this is why losing a whole carrier group is really a good thing for the US and how China was soundly defeated in the exchange. they’re like flies, but at least flies provide a benefit to environment. dod shills and nafo trannies are just wastes of biomass and oxygen thieves.
Nobody said either of those things
Post hands
>Iran copy
But they haven't? Because Muslims are monkeys.
>brown 4chan poster can't comprehend how a weapon might simultaneously be a gamechanger in a war against a non-power like Russia and a nothingburger in the grand scheme of things
A 30+ year old M1A2 would rape anything present in Ukraine right now simply because it has vastly superior situational awareness (CITV that shits over even the last gen of Russian tanks that are mostly rusted out husks at this point), better APFSDS and better survivability.
Kek look at all the seething this caused
what does seething even mean here?
That sounds like a cope. Javelins and the American IFV's are still very viable weapons, even if the original design was from the 80's. It also doesn't mean it was made in the 80's.
They already have a similar Israeli missile
and they are at least nominally upgrading/producing something based on their soviet equipment as their ifv.
You'll be the one getting sent do die for Israel there against those supposedly useless 80s weapons, so we'll see.
picrel: it's the new top of the line western superweapons manufactured by Russia and Iran
As if Iran could reverse engineer and produce and of our superior technology at sufficient scale. Have you seen the cargo ship "carrier"? Also, did the krauts say why the Jehovah's Witnesses got spazzed on?
To be fair, the cope carrier was designed as such because the Iranians have experience with oil tankers - so that's what they built. It's like how early tanks were basically just armored tractors.
The fact is Iranians are NOT Arabs, they're the competent Middle Easterners. We shouldn't overestimate them, but they are not a joke by any means and any war with Iran would be difficult due to terrain alone. Put even 90's era tech on top of that, and we're in for a difficult fight that should be planned carefully.
>The fact is Iranians are NOT Arabs, they're the competent Middle Easterners
explain this bullshit
He's just slamming his hooves against the keyboard while doing krokodil with his mom.
I just werks
If they're so smart why are they siding with Russia ?
They weren't exactly drowning in good options there. Relationships with the west have been " bit strained" for quite a while now, given the WW2 famine, BP oil deals, Shah's coup and reign, Iran Air Flight 655, sanctions, Israeli bomb raids, etc.
Because bongs and burgers shut down their attempt at democracy and installed a dysfunctional absolute monarchy. They're quite understandably still holding a grudge.
Their attempt at democracy was an autocratic strongman counting the votes from areas he held the most political support first then immediately stopping the vote count once his coalition secured control of parliament, then having said parliament grant him emergency powers.
Only had the lands for a little over 100 years.
>Kind of like The Federal Reserve Bank!
>The fact is Iranians are NOT Arabs, they're the competent Middle Easterners
The difference only exists in the minds of Iranians and pedantic historians. You're all dirka-dirkas, one step above Africans and two below chinkoids.
>any war with Iran would be difficult
Saddam Hussein had the most powerful military in the Arab world.
It got absolutely curbstomped by Coalition forces.
It’s not about ethnicity it’s religion. Shia Islam actually encourages scientific thinking amongst its adherents as a way to better understand gods creation while Sunni Islam (especially since Saudi Arabia starting exporting Wahhabism in the 1970s) considers most science black magic because it wasn’t explicitly mentioned in the Quran.
Religion is mostly irrelevant.
What the fuck happened that Russia has to send stuff to IRAN for reverse engineering?!
Engineers are in ditches in Bakhmut please understand
How else was RF supposed to pay for anything they were getting?
Russia, somehow, became an iranian proxy
We all expected them to become a Chinese puppet state, but the Russians always manage to impress with their miserable choices.
This fucking clownworld, I cannot fucking believe it.
Ukraine has turned into a proxy war between Iran and Estonia. Go figure.
>Russia, somehow, became an iranian proxy
You don't think that the Russians are examining samples as well? They've certainly captured enough to go around. Iran is likely interested in working with samples of their greatest enemy's weapons and asked for some as part of a weapons exchange.
>They've certainly captured enough to go around.
Enough to go around and do what?
Build a man portable, fire and forget top-attack ATGM?
When their latest engineering feat was welding 50's naval turrets onto MT-LBs, ISIS style?
>russia need to send captured weapons to FUCKING IRAN to reverse engineer them
i dont have an appropriate reaction maymay for this
Exactly my thoughts. Now is the question did they ever had engineers capable to do that or did they died on the front?
Why wouldn't they just outright give them the Russian equivalent, are they just that much worse in comparison?
>Russia cant even fucking reverse engineer Equipment anymore
Spend invaluable time and resources to create technologies that duplicate your own, or a quick sale to another country, get an instant profit? Hmmmm... second.
By reverse engineering them you stop the brain drain, train new engineers, become self-sufficient, and so on. Giving them to Iran is just a sign Russia is decades behind in R&D
all of their competent engineers fled the country. they don't want to get drafted.
Military engineers are exempt from the draft though
Yes and at first there was never going to be a draft but now here we are. I know Russians living in the US who had family flee Russia. They weren't eligible yet, but they fled because they knew it was only a matter of time.
They're just trying to rile up the US. If the US didn't worry that Russia had them in the first place, they certainly aren't going to care if Iran has them. The best this will accomplish is maybe getting a few journalists and congressmen/senators tweeting again.
They also want them Iranian drones.
Is it too difficult to post a goddamn link to the article?
It's a weird 4chan thing. They're so used to posting absolute bullshit they leave out the link and crop off the source.
>p..please anons, make sure to source our shitty website!
No
That's retarded. If you have to make sure that others know that your source is gay, then say it. Literally no reason to not give the source unless you are trying to hide where you are pulling your shit from but then why should people trust you?
Why would a 'world superpower' need to send weapons off to a 3rd world shithole to reverse-engineer? Can't they just use their soviet genius and engineering to do it themselves.
Funny thing about that: pretty much all of the Soviet genius was actually in the other SSRs. Why do you think Russia is so keen to annex them all back into the fold?
>Can't they just use their soviet genius and engineering to do it themselves.
their last kidnapped German scientists naturally expired
HJ-12s soon to Russia, it seems.
They will of course give it some Iranian name, but in reality these will be Chinese produce.
Soon to be poppin Leo2s.
Your entire narrative reeks of desperation, subhuman.
implessive and compretery oliginar Han engineeling has create grand javerin
Chang can make the form but can he decipher devilish western material science?
your picrel is literally the proof that they have.
modern single use AT launchers all have thoser fiber glass tubes
Yeah but the western ones don't glow super bright right next to your head.
>xinnie the pooh can't into matsci
Lmao have you ever seen lists of materials science professors or researchers or managers or engineers, anon??? Clearly not
may I see it?
I'm a matsci myself and my god, the amount of (rather good) papers chinks churn out is unreal. Lot's of shit aswell, but not limited to.
>we hate the western devil,evil dumb can't into innovation bc of capitalism
>tries to copy all their shit,and i mean ALL THEIR SHIT.
why are they like this?
Man... those bugmutts literally copy everything lol.
PLA is happy to have the Russians soon using "Iranian Javelins" against western tanks.
cope. changs ain't crashing their economy for the vatnigs
China literally grows faster than all of the West combined, and that by having DECREASING trade with the West.
They are also running laps around the West diplomatically and made the biggest oil producer use Yuan and the rest of the world dedollarize for that matter.
The west aint shit anymore. No sanctions will work on China now.
I fucking hate these people so much. They're the reason why the US is getting pushed out of the middle east in the first place, now they're seething because they have no pull with the new regional overlords.
Yet you keep sending them billions of dollars each year. Curious.
>blond garden gnomeess
you're a garden gnome, we get it.
>nuclear arms race between Iran and Saudi Arabia
Absolutely based. Let them have at it.
>They are also running laps around the West diplomatically
All of s/e Asia and Europe is turning against them. They're pissing off the Pak-rats already and regularly get raped in border skirmishes with India.
>made the biggest oil producer use Yuan
lol, all China did was get Iranians and Saudis to talk in the same room. I know thirdies and browns fantasize about their funny money replacing the dollar but please - it's not happening.
In 2022, the total value of the U.S. trade in goods with China amounted to around $691 billion U.S. dollars
In 2021, the EU and China traded goods worth $741 billion U.S. dollars
In 2021, Russia's main trade partner was China, as the volume of export and import trade between the two countries reached nearly $141 billion U.S. dollars
$141 Billion vs. $1.432 Trillion...keep fantasizing about Chinese weapons (lmao even)
>China literally grows faster than all of the West combined
China literally makes up their GDP growth numbers which is already massively based on building ghost cities.
If you want to get an accurate idea of how Chinese "growth" is going just check whether they are extracting wealth from other sectors to prop up their real estate and construction companies.
This and the fact that despite a fast growth in %, its total economy is barely a third of "The West", meaning it would still take a +200% growth overtime for China to reach parity with "The West".
At current growth rate, it will take another generation if the West stood still.
>made the biggest oil producer use Yuan
America doesn't not use the Yuan...? Are you retarded?
Look what kind of subhuman animal has infested this board
US is the biggest producer, Saudi are the biggest exporter.
You morons know that the reason the US dollar is the World currency is because the US is the only power that's able to project force worldwide right? The dollar is the world currency because it's backed by the World's sole Superpower, not the other way around.
if they gave a shit about economy explain zero coof lunacy which is still ongoing btw
I hope so, it would be useful to get a good close look at one of those things before the big one with China kicks off
SAVE ME, IRAN
unbelievably pathetic.
If Iran wanted Abrams they simply could have gotten the Iraqi government back during ISIS times to let one of their guys look at them.
These threads are getting pretty forced.
Why doesn't Russia support Russian war effort in Ukraine by sending supposed captured wunderwaffe to Russia for "reverse engineering"?
>Iran announces it has the 2nd largest deposits of lithium in the world
Well well well... looks like it's the perfect prof- I mean, time to protect American int- I mean protect American way of life!
>lithium
Iran is probably easier to pacify than the fucking Congo. How's their nuclear program coming along these days, any WMDs?
>What a catastrophe! I'm sure the US military thought not a single weapon would be captured! Now all their high tech secrets will be exposed!
Anything sent over will have had a pencil pusher do all kinds of risk and feasibility reports about exactly this issue, everyone knows its going to happen and has been prepared for beforehand. And you're a retard for that last sentence of your post.
reverse engineering doesn't take a weekend and one hot scientist. even if they manage to make a copy it will be years before they'll be able to manufacture it.
Whatever the Iranians can make will be reverse-engineered garbage like the rest of their indigenous-chineseum knockoffs of actually usable western kit. In fact, more cooperation between Iran and Russia is wonderful, since there's an even smaller chance the Euros will let them wiggle out from under sanctions.
>Modern tanks
>Functional navy, including carriers
>Jet fighters
>State of the art drones
>New and ingenious designs instead of tired, old, Soviet stock
Iran is supplanting Russia as the world's second strongest military power. Putin will be sucking the Ayatollah's pole for basic weapons by year's end.
>t-72 with scifi metal sheets bolted onto the gun
I don't get why people think Iran can manufacture weapons on a large scale, they can't even provide those loud ass drones in sufficient numbers. The country is mostly rural and the few factories they do have tend to be "oopsie" bombed by israelis.
>Iranian "jet fighter"
WDYM this is perfectly legit
The west TREMBLES
There's nothing wrong with any of this, only avionics garden gnomes disagree
>avionics garden gnomes
Wake up, babe. New gnomish subtype dropped.
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2023/02/19/2855329/iranian-fighter-jet-to-become-unmanned-aircraft
no no no, the jet that no-one has ever seen off the ground is fully operational and ACTUALLY they decided to make it a secret drone
so now they need another year or two to adapt it
also it's fully electric
also it's STVOL
also it's a fighter/bomber
also it's fully stealth
also we've already sold it to someone
no, you can't see it, we won't tell you any specifics and our advanced wunderweapon will dominate the skies
The fact someone sat inside of it puts it ahead of the Su-75's development.
Soon, Allah's chosen warriors of the air will be swatting F-35s and F-22s out of the sky.
weird how all those clouds match up with this picture that doesn't have a plane in it
Cloaking device activated.
I don't see it, you lie
They could have at least used a picture of it under natural lighting for the photoshop.
>Russia captures US weapons
>sends them to Iran to be reverse engineered
What the fuck am I reading
And China just cucked the US and it's vassals in the middle east with the saudi-Iranian deal, now it makes sense the saudis dumping dollar and buying yuan, we're seeing the death of the anglo-garden gnome hegemony and its glorious, can't wait for the new chapters, Ukraine collapsing and occupied by russian troops, Europe on edge of civil war because of economic stagnation and mass immigration with an angry Russia right on its doorsteps and america expelled from asia, struggling in vain to keep its power.
Why is a garden gnome shilling for Iran?
Post skin color
No in the US is afraid of Russia. They've proven themselves to be drunken buffoons even though we already knew this.
>Europe on edge of civil war because of economic stagnation
Please, elaborate on how civil war happens. I want to experience schizo retardation.
Lots of angry, lonely white men seeing their girls being taken by Mpepe and ahmed.
Unprecedented political divide, fiscal troubles and considerable percentage of 5th column immigrants.
It would be a miracle if shit does not pop off elsewhere in Europe
Yeah, easy to project from your shit filled streets pajeet, shouldnt you be walking infront of trains?
>And China just cucked the US and it's vassals in the middle east with the saudi-Iranian deal, now it makes sense the saudis dumping dollar and buying yuan, we're seeing the death of the anglo-garden gnome hegemony
Brownies joining forces is bullish for the white race according to retards.
What i dont understand, why Iran and Not China? Does China have something like javelin already?
>does China have something like Javelin already?
China has an indigenous Javelin copy that they don't share
, I guess Russia is hoping that Iran will reward their kindness by sharing the fruits of their labor in a few years
>What i dont understand, why Iran and Not China
Who knows how many backroom deals go on with the Chinks and Iran. Do not expect to see it in the news if it happens
Well, Russia has only ever posted empty javelin tubes, which is a bit like posting a used condom. You couldn't reverse engineer anything from those. Second - Iran? The Iranians may be smart for ragheads, but they're still durkallahs. You'd be better off wishing on a shooting star to spontaneously reverse engineer a US weapon than to ask a Mohammedian to do it for you.
Iran manufactures F5 clones for their airforce, not exactly state of the art but your average country can't even make a jet engine.
The F5 is older than the Russian Federation, it's a dinosaur. It's like bragging about being able to clone a Sherman.
Cool, they'll know about 40+ year old cold war sloppy seconds lmao
>U.S. gives Ukraine shit tons of free weapons
>"OOPSIES! LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF IT WAS CAPTURED BY RUSSIA!"
>demand money be printed to buy new weapons to replace the ones given away
>demand money be printed to fund new designs to counter the weapons just captured and open sourced to Iran and North Korea
great
The embargo prevents Russia to make anything that requires modern electronics.
That's why they are sending it to Iran.
now why would Iran want to reverse engineer the Javelin when they already have a reverse engineered Spike?
We should decapitate the Iranian regime.
So now the mighty Puccia can't even reverse engineering?
Everything sent to Ukraine is 30-40+ years old. Especially the big ticket items like tanks, IFVs, vehicles, artillery, etc... If Iran can't organically design that stuff without reverse engineering, they have bigger problems than we know. The US has been pretty careful with what gets sent. The only "modern" stuff is drones, loitering munitions, specialized artillery rounds and some EW equipment. Obviously some of it is superior to Russian equipment, but that doesn't mean that Russia/China/Iran is going to learn something new. They already have access to most of the stuff, building it is the problem, not accessing it for reverse engineering.
That said, the USA did remove some components from M777's for instance and any item the USA is serious about not wanting captured, has been denied to Ukraine, such as certain models of UAVs. China already has all the technology that has been sent to Ukraine. So does Russia. There might be a few new items that Iran hasn't been able to access previously but nothing likely to advance their own weapons programs. ATGMs were sent to Syria, Iran definitely already had them. The more problematic items would be certain undetonated rocket types and single use loitering munitions that Iran might learn something from. Russia is unlikely to capture any modern tanks or planes (if sent). They've barely captured anything since the first days of the war. All we've seen is some destroyed IFVs from the 1960's and 1980's. The technology in those vehicles is not advanced. Russia has had an Abrams (albeit an older one) since the 1990's.
wake me up when russia is trading them for iranian dumpsters to convert into APCs
OP is gnomish.
Everyone is reallocating forces to invade Israel