More like since the fall of the soviet union, if you look into the people behind the man who dissolved it you'll find that it was a US backed coup. Not to mention the process in which they decided to dissolve it.
Anon, that's every fucking state. All national myths are artificial narratives we tell ourselves to bind us to a collective authority, which holds the monopoly on legal violence. No matter how softly this is expressed, secession is illegal no matter where you go... and harshly punishable.
Also, the USSR was comprised of several nations, most states are. Please do not confuse the concept of nations (as in peoples) and states (as in political machinery). Be better.
>GOOD LORD WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THERE!
Pre-victory day fireworks >PRE-VICTORY DAY FIREWORKS? ON TOP OF THE KREMLIN? IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT?
Yes! >May I see them?
Internal justification for the switch to terror bombing of Ukrainian civilians.
They want an excuse to escalate as well as try to convince Moscow they're under existential threat from Ukraine. This has FSB false flag painted all over it.
>putin somehow needs an elaborate excuse to bomb the former territory of the ukraine
wut
They want an excuse to escalate as well as try to convince Moscow they're under existential threat from Ukraine. This has FSB false flag painted all over it.
-An excuse to cancel Victory day parade, citing security reasons.
-An excuse why they take such a beating in upcoming Ukrainian campaign "The enemy is stronger than anticipated, we are fighting entire nato" or somesuch.
-Excuse to purge his ranks of distrusted people in moscow defense and intelligence communities.
But I honestly do not think it was a false flag. Moscow is clinically paranoid of showing any sign of weakness. They will rather resort to ridiculously see-through lies rather than admit that the enemy could harm them seriously. Like "The Moskva returned to port under it's own power". They will rather seem stupid than humiliated, and this was certainly humiliating.
Internal support for the war is slipping the longer it drags on. It doesn't seem intended to really enrage people to justify militarisation, just put a bit of fear in them
michael kofman has been saying for a while that russia is currently in danger of suffering a serious lack of man power.
the kremlin has been coming up with all sorts of creative ways to get people to sign up voluntarily since before the war even started so this might be an extension of it.
that is the whole point of trying to push to the carpathians and establish a buffer zone now.
They won't have enough people in 10 years. It seems they don't even have them now.
nice dubs
I don't think it's a false flag. Bombing a Moscow school or hospital to make people angry would be a false flag. Attacking the Kremlin days before May 9th without killing anyone is just humiliating and demoralizing. Russia can't afford that.
There was a leaked government directive on how Russian media is supposed to cover the Ukrainian counter-offensive which basically stated that no matter what happens, it is to be spun to Russia's positive and you'll get in trouble if you go against that government diktat. That happened yesterday. So what better way to drown that out of the media and social media by replacing it with >HOLHOLS TRY TO ASSASSINATE PUTIN BUT DON'T WORRY WE SHOT DOWN THE DRONES AND THERE WAS NO DAMAGE >NO THAT VIDEO IS CGI FAKE HATO PROPAGANDA
A few MSM sources are questioning the entire thing because: 1. Putin doesn't stay at the Kremlin overnight very often 2. He wasn't there and 3. It would take more than a drone to try and hit him. Therefore it surely cannot be an assassination attempt. They then question how there are so many angles of the drone attack, why there were people already climbing up the roof when the 2nd one hit... almost like this was planned and filmed to show to the Russian public.
Attempt to galvanise Russian civilian support for additional mobilisation waves. Attempt to get the western nations supporting Ukraine to reduce support, threaten escalation and nukes.
Business as usual basically.
Is it a false flag though? Seems pretty obvious that its a message to the elite in Russia that are funding the war. they arent as safe as they think they are and that only reason they're alive is because Ukraine has chosen not to go after them yet.
Definitely a falseflag, to fast response from Kremlin, 9th of May parade just in corner and how embrassing if they flew all the way from Ukraine to Kremlin without getting noticed just before the hit the dome. I mean come on, one of the easiest falseflags to do and even easier to call out Ukraine to be the bad boy. Plus their hilarious claim that "Ukraine tried to assassinate Putin".
Could be several reasons why they did it >To limit the 9th of May spectators plus even more rigid security >Call off 9th of May >Push and sway the population to be more pro-"smo" >they're just retarded and belives that will increase their popularity among West etc, play victim card and try to decrease Western support
Definitely a falseflag, to fast response from Kremlin, 9th of May parade just in corner and how embrassing if they flew all the way from Ukraine to Kremlin without getting noticed just before the hit the dome. I mean come on, one of the easiest falseflags to do and even easier to call out Ukraine to be the bad boy. Plus their hilarious claim that "Ukraine tried to assassinate Putin".
Could be several reasons why they did it >To limit the 9th of May spectators plus even more rigid security >Call off 9th of May >Push and sway the population to be more pro-"smo" >they're just retarded and belives that will increase their popularity among West etc, play victim card and try to decrease Western support
I'm sure its inner circle squabbling. Such failure right before May 9th, heads will roll thats for sure. Looks like one clique decided to uproot another.
I don't think it's to justify more terror bombing, because they don't seem to care about that. My guess is Putin wants an excuse to cancel May 9 parade or they are trying to justify mobilising by scaring the people in Moscow by bringing the war to them. It's like 9/11 but pathetic and ineffectual.
I thought Russia was covered with super supreme S3000000000 AA batteries that could vaporize the entire USAF in two minutes. They couldn't stop a subsonic drone traveling all the way from Ukraine?
>I thought Russia was covered with super supreme S3000000000 AA batteries that could vaporize the entire USAF in two minutes. They couldn't stop a subsonic drone traveling all the way from Ukraine?
where is that patriottard posting stats from 30years ago now kek
I don't think this was a false flag. If you wanted to rile up the population you'd do something really gruesome. Not drone a place that, let's be honest, Russians probably don't care much about.
It totally was, actually striking the Kremlin itself would have been a war crime as those spires are a UN world heritage site (and the red star itself was literally made in Ukraine)
they went for the flag so that they could send their intended message (nowhere is safe) without causing outrage in the west
Zelensky could literally fly over the kremlin in an AC-130 and piss out of it onto the kremlin before unloading several plane loads of manure and then sending in a gunship to pound it into dust and not a single person in the west would bat an eyelid.
The worst part about this is that I know actual, unironic vatnik bots in real life and they were calling this an "attempted terrorist attack" as if there isn't a fucking war happening between both countries or anything
You don't understand, anon. We're still in a Special Military Operation. But this is a direct act of war from Ukraine. Russia is about to put their left leg into a fresh pair of jeans and NATO will know true power. Dare not provoke them for they will put their other leg in the jeans as well
another layer of gloves have come off and the eyebrow is raised slightly further
russia's this close to taking off the final layer and the eyebrows have almost departed the head entirely, and trust me you don't want to see what happens when they reach that point
Every time I see them post this shitty bingus card, they cope by typing some reply like >of course I don't know how bingo is supposed to work, what am I a grandma??
It makes me think the poster is an ESL, whose only exposure to bingo is American movies and TV where it's shown being played by a bunch of old people. I assume it's not a common game played by schoolchildren in whatever country they're from.
the funny thing with this meme is that japan's space program is only getting better and russia recently lost access to their rocket launch sites in khasakstan because they couldnt pay for them lol
[...]
it's cute, they're trying! Soon they may learn how to play backgammon! And after that, who knows? Perhaps they will learn how to play the game of war?
https://i.imgur.com/fErMoNu.jpg
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Thank you anon. Quite embarrassing.
Credit where credit is due, it did make me laugh harder then any vatnik meme I've seen this entire war.
The reason is he got it off this. But this is wrong, if you click the article (like i did) it doesn't mention 15 after a quick read. But 27 (3x9) and 90 (10x9).
It's retarded anyway because you'd more likely do 5 down and 3 across, not 5 across and 3 down even if you were doing it like he did.
>small drone flies high above the building and detonates in air away from anything important and at an altitude that insides it's seen by the surrounding area
It's a false flag intended for a domestic audience. Shoes up support for the war by "bringing it to the home front" and paints the enemy as dangerous and willing to expand the war beyond the current theater.
>It's a false flag intended for a domestic audience
News flash:
Crimea is considered home front, Ukies bombed it, nothing happened
Donetsk is considered home front, Ukies bombed it, nothing happened
ok lets go even further
Belgorod is literally home front, Ukies bombed it, nothing happened
I’m from burgerland. Compared to the city I grew up in (Los Angeles) it was absolutely crime free
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Organised crime runs both cities. The parts tourists see are kept free of (visible) crime in an agreement they have with the government.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I bet you also think that Cancun is crime free too, huh? If you've been there on vacation I'm sure you'd think it was the best city you've ever been to.
>small drone flies high above the building and detonates in air away from anything important and at an altitude that insides it's seen by the surrounding area
It's a false flag intended for a domestic audience. Shoes up support for the war by "bringing it to the home front" and paints the enemy as dangerous and willing to expand the war beyond the current theater.
So.
Civil war?
Accelerationist shenanigans?
Humiliation between fsb and gru?
Irl shitposting for the lulz?
https://i.imgur.com/0RRclAy.png
>rshtb
If they wanted to do a false flag they'd have bombed an apartment bloc.
They have done it before, and it'd actually give them an excuse to call for a second mobilization. Your regular Russian would be outraged by this, but it's still not a sufficient excuse to call for a full mobilization.
This was probably the Ukrainians trying to put the fear of God in Putin and make him call off the May 9 parade, which probably worked.
The problem is that this was either an extremely well planned and executed symbolic strike by Ukraine, or an extremely retarded false flag by Russia. If either of the drones came from the North or East I'd assume Russia did it.
If it was a false flag they'd have bombed a Moscow kindergarten. It's not like Putin is above mass murder for personal gain. I think it was either SBU or SBU funded Russian dissidents. And godspeed to the glowkranians.
More fake Russian shit and lies it seems
Kyiv suggested that Moscow “staged” the attack, which came ahead of a widely expected Ukrainian spring offensive.
“Such staged reports by Russia should be considered solely as an attempt to prepare an information background for a large-scale terrorist attack on Ukraine,” presidential spokesman Mikhaylo Podolyak said.
>FSB coats roof of the kremlin in ERA >drone that would've done little more than start a small fire hits them >ERA explodes causing the entire roof to collapse
here's their nuclear response btw > According to the latest data, 21 people were killed and 48 injured as a result of today's Russian chaotic shelling of Kherson.
I'm sure wasting ammo on killing civs a few days before a massive counter attack is not going to be a problem later.
Unluckily Russians bombing civilians became routine really quickly. Even though there seems to be somewhat of an uptick recently, it's nothing that they haven't been doing since day one.
It doesn't get enough attention because this is pretty much a weekly if not daily occurrence for Ukrainians, literally just another Russian war crime for the pile.
Uman bombing has made more of a splash. I’ve checked several world news sites, and this didn’t even make the first page. Seems like they are limiting Ukrainian news to one topic at a time, and today it’s the Kremlin drone attack.
It doesn't get enough attention because this is pretty much a weekly if not daily occurrence for Ukrainians, literally just another Russian war crime for the pile.
Thanks to language barriers, and a jingoistic zeitgeist totally inconceivable to the average person.. Russia has in a sense, "flown below" the Western moral radar. >US admits they accidently bombed a wedding >WHY IS OUR GOVERNMENT SO EVIL >Russia is intentionally bombing relief centers and ethnically cleansing occupied areas >pssh, yeah right, that's just straight up comic book villain stuff, man.
>School children taken hostage >Assault the school with the army >Some of the terrorists still manage a breakout long enough for one of them to be lynched >333 civilian casualties
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege
>jingoistic zeitgeist totally inconceivable to the average person
Not like there's a network of organized shills and useful idiots made specifically to denigrate and sabotage the worldwide image of USA as much as possible, no sir.
Also the first civilian bombing is a shock, the hundredth is long after everyone's lost hope for the aggressor.
1st guy: >Ex crime boss in east europe. Co-owner of night club currently. Gambling in crypto. >Brno, Česká republika
2nd guy: >Bulgaria
3rd guy >Dad, hubby, software developer, armchair geopolitics, chebureki lover, landscape photographer, russophile. >Kamloops, BC, Canada
as always, vatniks are all coward piece of shit.
>Kamloops
I live in that area. 3rd is a cocksucker who is constantly writing Russian propaganda letters to the local news columns in between other pro-trump bullshit. Would beat his ass if I ever met him.
>Kamloops
I live in that area. 3rd is a cocksucker who is constantly writing Russian propaganda letters to the local news columns in between other pro-trump bullshit. Would beat his ass if I ever met him.
The other reason he's wrong is because once you leave the mainland, the number of Chinese falls off dramatically and instead it's mostly Pajeets and rednecks
russia: >kherson is russian forever
also russia: >shelling the shit out of eternal russian city of kherson, because if monke can't have it, no one will
russians are experts at having tantrums whenever they get told they can't have something
exactly like a child being told he cant get a candy bar from the convenience store
Kyiv insisted it had “nothing to do” with the alleged attack, suggesting it was “staged” by Moscow, while the US said the report should be taken with a “shaker of salt”.
“We do not attack Putin or Moscow,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said on a visit to Finland.
“We defend our villages and cities.”
On the same day, Kyiv said Russian strikes had killed 21 people in the southern Ukrainian region of Kherson – including on a supermarket and a train station.
Russia announced the drone incident after a series of major sabotage attacks in the run-up to celebrations for the nation’s most important holiday on 9 May, marking the Soviet victory over the Nazis.
“Today at night, the Kyiv regime attempted to strike the Kremlin residence of the President of the Russian Federation with unmanned aerial vehicles,” the Kremlin said.
“Two unmanned vehicles were aimed at the Kremlin … the devices were put out of action,” a Kremlin statement said.
The operation was described as “a planned terrorist act and an attempt on the life of the President of the Russian Federation”.
“Russia reserves the right to take retaliatory measures wherever and whenever it deems necessary,” the Kremlin statement continued.
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Putin was working at his residence near Moscow on Wednesday and would still take part in a scheduled World War II Victory Day parade on Red Square next week as planned.
Russia later launched a terrorism probe “in connection with the attempt to strike the Kremlin residence of the President of Russia”.
Kyiv suggested that Moscow “staged” the attack, which came ahead of a widely expected Ukrainian spring offensive.
“Such staged reports by Russia should be considered solely as an attempt to prepare an information background for a large-scale terrorist attack on Ukraine,” presidential spokesman Mikhaylo Podolyak said.
More fake Russian shit and lies it seems
Kyiv suggested that Moscow “staged” the attack, which came ahead of a widely expected Ukrainian spring offensive.
“Such staged reports by Russia should be considered solely as an attempt to prepare an information background for a large-scale terrorist attack on Ukraine,” presidential spokesman Mikhaylo Podolyak said.
Ukraine consistently denies information about ongoing operations, especially inside Russia. That doesn't mean they don't happen, it's a war and they have ever right to strike inside Russia. But yeah, smoking accident haha funny.
Well that and alot of those ops run independantly of central command for opsec and agility reasons.
They are given a general order to fuck shit up however they can within set rules of engagement and can make descions without notifying central so they dont run the risk of getting exposed or missing opertunities.
I think false flag by a hardline faction. That's highly restricted air space, and it's hitting dead center to the flag with controlled flight. Feels very theatrical. The explosive in question is not large enough to pose a threat inside either - it is a fortified building. None of it makes sense, but the anger is there, so false flag is the natural explanation given Russia's history on this stuff. Hardline faction might want it to add support for more war economy changes, conscription, whatever.
I remember when this thing was first reported and talked about here on PrepHole today 12 hours ago. shills were bragging about how it's le epic to bomb the kremlin. Now they all are saying it's a falseflag, I wonder why. Did they get psyoped into believing it's a falseflag by FSBmorons? or was it really a falseflag? find out more tomorrow!
If Ukraine was even making a serious attempt they at least would have put a decent explosive on the thing.
Ukies suspecting UA did it was just them hoping the UA really had the balls to fuck with the Kremlin directly. I don't think Ukraine would ever risk attacking Moscow
>bragging about how it's le epic to bomb the kremlin
motivated reasoning, the post
/k/ommandos were laughing their heads off at the absurdity of Russia letting a Doolitle Moment happen.
Eventually their disbelief turned into "they can't be THAT stupid, it has to be a false flag"
UKR likely managed to hit the Kremlin with a couple of suicide drones. RUS freaked and decided to bomb some more civilian targets, and then made some vague threats about nukes.
Quite honestly, Russia, either nuke or shut up about it.
>be Vietnamese >woke up >saw this passed around by the pro-Russian crowd >"it's gonna be another Liberation of Saigon, Russian tanks crashing through Ukrainian Presidential Palace soon"
I literally have no idea what happened there with the drone but I'm just really fucking tired of this general attitude many people here hold that the Soviet helped us back in the day so we must support Russia no matter what. It is even more a tiresome now since those people are obnoxious as fuck and try to spin any Russian setback as positive (assuming the drone thing is real). And to think that I thought at the very start of the war that the pro-Ukrainian people were the more annoying one since they tried to push that Putler meme.
it's either >a genuine attack carried out by ukraine, illustrating how retarded and incompetent russia is
or >a false flag carried out by the FSB/hardliners/whatever, illustrating how inept and incompetent russia is
FSB wanted the "flag still standing amidst flames" symbolism.
They probably told the 2 guys with fire extinguishers to keep the roof burning until they got the pictures.
Honestly it kinda feels too funny to be a false flag to me. Putin's bomb goons are no strangers to causing casualties, and maybe I've just read Red Storm Rising too many times, but I'd expect them to hit a class of schoolkids visiting the Duma or one and only one very specific key government figure. Bombing the flagpole is just such specific and potent symbolism that I'd lean towards saying it was either dissidents or some glowie branch telling Putin that "we can kill you any time we want".
ISW thinks the drone strike in moscow has the hallmarks of a staged, self-made attack.
"Several indicators suggest that the strike was internally conducted and purposefully staged. Russian authorities have recently taken steps to increase Russian domestic air defense capabilities, including within Moscow itself, and it is therefore extremely unlikely that two drones could have penetrated multiple layers of air defense and detonated or been shot down just over the heart of the Kremlin in a way that provided spectacular imagery caught nicely on camera.
...The Kremlin’s immediate, coherent, and coordinated response to the incident suggests that the attack was internally prepared in such a way that its intended political effects outweigh its embarrassment.
...If the drone attack had not been internally staged it would have been a surprise event. It is very likely that the official Russian response would initially have been much more disorganized as Russian officials scrambled to generate a coherent narrative and offset the rhetorical implications of a clear informational embarrassment. The Kremlin has notably failed to generate a timely and coherent informational response to other military humiliations not of its own making, including the falls of Balakliya and Kherson City in September and November 2022"
I don't know about that... Never see malice in something that can be equally explained by incompetence. And russians ARE stupendeously incompetent.
Maybe it is the lack of wild, stupid see-through lies to explain this that tips them off? All explanations are the same, and came out in timely manners.
There were no "It was just fireworks exercise" or "it was just a balloon" excuses made by different government officials.
Are you actually claiming that there exists a well funded group of experts who all have the moral integrity to give a completely objective analysis of a war while being based in a country which is actively involved in said war?
Actively involved means sending troops to directly engage the enemy or facilitate logistics or something. Sending weapons or doing a small amount of training isn't actively involved. You are not fighting NATO. You are losing to people you always looked down and despised and everyone, literally everyone around the world, is enjoying watching arrogant Russian morons who are enormously proud while simultaneously having very little to be preoud of get taken down a peg
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Then I'd just say that the US is at war with Russia. Right now it's not but you can't seriously claim that NATO isn't actively involved in keeping Ukraine supplied. How'd you compare the US' involvement in Ukraine with say, India and Russia? Way to go quibbling over semantics instead of addressing my original point.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
By that logic the Soviet Union was at war with America in Vietnam c. 1968. But it wasn't, and you're a coping gay. You are not fighting NATO. You are losing to Ukrainians. Deal with it.
>and it is therefore extremely unlikely that two drones could have penetrated multiple layers of air defense
Those retards know nothing about vatnik incompetence.
>spectacular imagery caught nicely on camera
There are dozens of 24/7 cameras overviewing Kremlin
>The Kremlin’s immediate, coherent, and coordinated response to the incident
What is a dictatorship with centralized propaganda machine
My favorite part has been the reactions of Russia and sadly a bunch of right wing pundit types. >drones hit flags >basically nothing aside from saying "look what we can do" if it was even Ukrainians in the first place >OH MY GOD THEY'RE TRYING TO ASSASSINATE PUTIN >THIS IS GOING TO START WWIII!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Russia started to threaten Finland with military-technical countermeasures if Finland signs Defence Cooperation Agreement with US, and also implied that they're very worried and sad about Finland losing its sovereignty in the process. A beer bottle was thrown at their Åland consulate during our national get drunk day the labor day so they send a protest letter to our gov, and Zelensky visited our country yesterday and Russia could do nothing but watch since we're in NATO now.
Seems like this week has been awful for them and only keeps getting worse. It's great, I love it so much. I can't wait to see western tanks finally start getting footage when the ukie offensive turns hot.
lmao, great idea putin, run the possibility of opening up a second front, against NATO no less, when you're already getting your ass fed to you in a single campaign
5d checkers
>threaten Finland with military-technical countermeasures
Lol. Aren't the potential "military-technical countermeasures" the reason that pushed Finland to NATO?
Pretty much. A small neutral country has the patience to listen to veiled nuke threats and nazi accusations only for so long, while watching Russia invade its smaller ''neutral'' neighbors.
Every time Russia fucks up and shows a moment of weakness, someone will take advantage of that and try to leave from their sphere.
>A beer bottle was thrown at their Åland consulate >so they send a protest letter to our gov
I hope they close the consulate in response to that letter
It's the best because they admit America can literally bomb their capital and there is nothing they can do because they are afraid any real response and are too weak to handle any actual response.
If there is Ukranian drone debrie on the
Kremlin, can Moscow legally be considered occupied?
Moscow has been occupied since 1917.
More like since the fall of the soviet union, if you look into the people behind the man who dissolved it you'll find that it was a US backed coup. Not to mention the process in which they decided to dissolve it.
the USSR was a soulless false nation held together with violence and brutality
Anon, that's every fucking state. All national myths are artificial narratives we tell ourselves to bind us to a collective authority, which holds the monopoly on legal violence. No matter how softly this is expressed, secession is illegal no matter where you go... and harshly punishable.
Also, the USSR was comprised of several nations, most states are. Please do not confuse the concept of nations (as in peoples) and states (as in political machinery). Be better.
Pathetic.
What's your country? When was the last act of genocide your state performed on your people? Do you still deny it happening?
Yeah, and it sucks.
There is no national myth binding the people of Australia together
just the simple fact that we are better than you, whoever you are, and we know it
What zero nationalism does to a motherfucker. Now go complain about your demoralised life, we could all use another laugh.
Yeah, by local subhumans.
Through US funding.
>GOOD LORD WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THERE!
Pre-victory day fireworks
>PRE-VICTORY DAY FIREWORKS? ON TOP OF THE KREMLIN? IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT?
Yes!
>May I see them?
underrated
>SHOIGU, THE KREMLIN IS ON FIRE
No general, it's just a celebration of our victory over the Nazis
my lord, my drink
Progozhin is making his move.
why didn't the stupid belarussians wait until putin is, y'know, outside and in the parade stands the next day and aim at him
>expecting monke prime to crawl out of his underground cage instead of sending out the 6 millionth body double
ngmi
bunker grandpa
no lengths are too small in capture the flag
Assuming false flag, what's the objective here?
gives them cover to shoot nooooks at Kyiv
God, I wish.
>putin somehow needs an elaborate excuse to bomb the former territory of the ukraine
wut
>former territory of the ukraine
So Belgorod will at last be nook'd?
They've already done a test run on bombing Belgirod.
Internal justification for the switch to terror bombing of Ukrainian civilians.
Close,
Internal justification for a general mobilization (draft) of ethnic Russians.
Damn, I have like 5 russian twinks subscribed on onlyfans, they gunna get blasted?!
Maybe if you shill them here they’ll get enough money to escape
>switch to terror bombing
>switch
They want an excuse to escalate as well as try to convince Moscow they're under existential threat from Ukraine. This has FSB false flag painted all over it.
Escalate with what? Spears?
They still have nearly 4000 tanks that appear to be in decent condition according to paid for satellite images. Granted, half of them are ancient
-An excuse to cancel Victory day parade, citing security reasons.
-An excuse why they take such a beating in upcoming Ukrainian campaign "The enemy is stronger than anticipated, we are fighting entire nato" or somesuch.
-Excuse to purge his ranks of distrusted people in moscow defense and intelligence communities.
But I honestly do not think it was a false flag. Moscow is clinically paranoid of showing any sign of weakness. They will rather resort to ridiculously see-through lies rather than admit that the enemy could harm them seriously. Like "The Moskva returned to port under it's own power". They will rather seem stupid than humiliated, and this was certainly humiliating.
I also doubt that FSB would red flag this half ass . no buildings or innocent people blew up
Russian partisans is really the most likely answer
But isn't the fact Moscow is the one denouncing the attack all over a little suHispanicious when they deny everything?
Usually the FSB false flag would include dead civvies. I expect it to be a subway explosion, same as in the times of Chechen wars
Internal support for the war is slipping the longer it drags on. It doesn't seem intended to really enrage people to justify militarisation, just put a bit of fear in them
It's not false flag. The Ukies are trying to divert AA systems out of Ukraine.
michael kofman has been saying for a while that russia is currently in danger of suffering a serious lack of man power.
the kremlin has been coming up with all sorts of creative ways to get people to sign up voluntarily since before the war even started so this might be an extension of it.
that is the whole point of trying to push to the carpathians and establish a buffer zone now.
They won't have enough people in 10 years. It seems they don't even have them now.
nice dubs
I don't think it's a false flag. Bombing a Moscow school or hospital to make people angry would be a false flag. Attacking the Kremlin days before May 9th without killing anyone is just humiliating and demoralizing. Russia can't afford that.
This. It makes no sense to false flag by bombing some symbolic monument in a manner that harms no innocents. It just looks pathetic for Russia
There was a leaked government directive on how Russian media is supposed to cover the Ukrainian counter-offensive which basically stated that no matter what happens, it is to be spun to Russia's positive and you'll get in trouble if you go against that government diktat. That happened yesterday. So what better way to drown that out of the media and social media by replacing it with
>HOLHOLS TRY TO ASSASSINATE PUTIN BUT DON'T WORRY WE SHOT DOWN THE DRONES AND THERE WAS NO DAMAGE
>NO THAT VIDEO IS CGI FAKE HATO PROPAGANDA
A few MSM sources are questioning the entire thing because: 1. Putin doesn't stay at the Kremlin overnight very often 2. He wasn't there and 3. It would take more than a drone to try and hit him. Therefore it surely cannot be an assassination attempt. They then question how there are so many angles of the drone attack, why there were people already climbing up the roof when the 2nd one hit... almost like this was planned and filmed to show to the Russian public.
>They then question how there are so many angles of the drone attack
Why wouldn't there be? Aren't there cameras pointed at the Kremlin 24/7?
Honestly it might just have been to have an excuse to ban drones over moscow until after the ninth.
None. The regime is borderline schizophrenic at this point.
Zelensky is in Finland for a summit, they're claiming the Ukrainians tried to assassinate Putin with that drone. You do the math.
Attempt to galvanise Russian civilian support for additional mobilisation waves. Attempt to get the western nations supporting Ukraine to reduce support, threaten escalation and nukes.
Business as usual basically.
Is it a false flag though? Seems pretty obvious that its a message to the elite in Russia that are funding the war. they arent as safe as they think they are and that only reason they're alive is because Ukraine has chosen not to go after them yet.
Definitely a falseflag, to fast response from Kremlin, 9th of May parade just in corner and how embrassing if they flew all the way from Ukraine to Kremlin without getting noticed just before the hit the dome. I mean come on, one of the easiest falseflags to do and even easier to call out Ukraine to be the bad boy. Plus their hilarious claim that "Ukraine tried to assassinate Putin".
Could be several reasons why they did it
>To limit the 9th of May spectators plus even more rigid security
>Call off 9th of May
>Push and sway the population to be more pro-"smo"
>they're just retarded and belives that will increase their popularity among West etc, play victim card and try to decrease Western support
I'm sure its inner circle squabbling. Such failure right before May 9th, heads will roll thats for sure. Looks like one clique decided to uproot another.
No parade, no embarresment that alot of their parade Equipment is gone
to blow the flagpole up
To cancel the parade. Let's be real here.
I don't think it's to justify more terror bombing, because they don't seem to care about that. My guess is Putin wants an excuse to cancel May 9 parade or they are trying to justify mobilising by scaring the people in Moscow by bringing the war to them. It's like 9/11 but pathetic and ineffectual.
I thought Russia was covered with super supreme S3000000000 AA batteries that could vaporize the entire USAF in two minutes. They couldn't stop a subsonic drone traveling all the way from Ukraine?
>I thought Russia was covered with super supreme S3000000000 AA batteries that could vaporize the entire USAF in two minutes. They couldn't stop a subsonic drone traveling all the way from Ukraine?
where is that patriottard posting stats from 30years ago now kek
It was a consumer grade drone, those don't have the range for that kind of deployment. It was an excuse to try to assassinate Zelensky in Finland.
I don't think this was a false flag. If you wanted to rile up the population you'd do something really gruesome. Not drone a place that, let's be honest, Russians probably don't care much about.
PrepHole is going to be unusable for the next 24-48 hours during the Indian internet counter-offensive, but it was worth it.
See you on the other side brother
Ride was fun.
>Ride was fun
Ride never ends.
In a few days it'll be Tempo-posting and mobik-gore galore.
Mr Bone's Wild Ride is a really good value. I can't find a park map. Bathroom 47 is too expensive for me.
>I want to get off Mr. Bones Wild Ride.
dang we really are about to get redeemed, aren't we sar
I'm taking the kids to the bunker now, they're not fucking happy but at least they'll be alive, TAKE ACTION NOW
The point was to destroy the flag. If they wanted to hit the building's occupied areas, that would have been easily done.
The point was not the flag, that came from russian shills
It totally was, actually striking the Kremlin itself would have been a war crime as those spires are a UN world heritage site (and the red star itself was literally made in Ukraine)
they went for the flag so that they could send their intended message (nowhere is safe) without causing outrage in the west
Zelensky could literally fly over the kremlin in an AC-130 and piss out of it onto the kremlin before unloading several plane loads of manure and then sending in a gunship to pound it into dust and not a single person in the west would bat an eyelid.
the message is “if we can destroy this flag imagine what else we can do”
B-BUT WE SHOOPED SO MANY SUNGLASSES ON COLONEL DOOMSDAY IT WAS THE HOHOLS WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SHASNEEDED!
I want to pet that kitty
Have you ever been so nonwhite you didn't know how to create a bingo sheet
>Be Pajeet
>Can't even make a proper Bingo sheet
Can I speak to your supervisor, please?
It's intentional.
They made it so it can't be redeemed.
I am so sorry, sarr, but dis vill not be be possibl at dis time.
Expect a call from my lawyer. I'll be nullifying the contract and claiming damages for this pathetic display.
The worst part about this is that I know actual, unironic vatnik bots in real life and they were calling this an "attempted terrorist attack" as if there isn't a fucking war happening between both countries or anything
You don't understand, anon. We're still in a Special Military Operation. But this is a direct act of war from Ukraine. Russia is about to put their left leg into a fresh pair of jeans and NATO will know true power. Dare not provoke them for they will put their other leg in the jeans as well
eyebrow is being raised, comrade
Were it raised any further it would circumnavigate to become a mustache.
>Takes more then a year to put on some jeans
No wonder Russia is Africa tier lmao
> no! They expect all of us on the wreckage brother
> have we started to panic?
> the eyebrow rises
The bear is standing with both leg on jeans... don't provoke mother bear, or she become of wearing the jean... *~~ slava Z
another layer of gloves have come off and the eyebrow is raised slightly further
russia's this close to taking off the final layer and the eyebrows have almost departed the head entirely, and trust me you don't want to see what happens when they reach that point
>the eyebrow is raised slightly further
This must be russia's new space program after the kazahks pushed roscosmos out of baikonur
test
quite a bit of seething at the fact that you've been called out of your brownness
Every time I see them post this shitty bingus card, they cope by typing some reply like
>of course I don't know how bingo is supposed to work, what am I a grandma??
It makes me think the poster is an ESL, whose only exposure to bingo is American movies and TV where it's shown being played by a bunch of old people. I assume it's not a common game played by schoolchildren in whatever country they're from.
Bingo is useless as analogy for anyone under ninety except Koreans.
Can we please start quoting and reposting what vatnik shills say before they delete their retarded posts?
A vatnik posted a "nuPrepHole bingo" card that failed at being a bingo card (three by five grid)
the funny thing with this meme is that japan's space program is only getting better and russia recently lost access to their rocket launch sites in khasakstan because they couldnt pay for them lol
That's a Ukrainian Moscow!
jesus fucking christ
Credit where credit is due, it did make me laugh harder then any vatnik meme I've seen this entire war.
The reason is he got it off this. But this is wrong, if you click the article (like i did) it doesn't mention 15 after a quick read. But 27 (3x9) and 90 (10x9).
It's retarded anyway because you'd more likely do 5 down and 3 across, not 5 across and 3 down even if you were doing it like he did.
it's cute, they're trying! Soon they may learn how to play backgammon! And after that, who knows? Perhaps they will learn how to play the game of war?
Thank you anon. Quite embarrassing.
I still have no idea if this one is genuine, and what the fuck they meant by it if it is.
>is it genuine
Yes
>no idea what it means
Neither does the artist
>russia stronk
that's it
actual 4 year old tier "joke"
It's weapons-related, so naturally 4chan tourists wouldn't know.
A significant portion of vatniks actually belive that puccia posses climate changing weapons and that their military can cause local storms and shit
At this point Moscow could be a literal smoldering wasteland and most Russians would still believe that Russia was winning
So.
Civil war?
Accelerationist shenanigans?
Humiliation between fsb and gru?
Irl shitposting for the lulz?
>small drone flies high above the building and detonates in air away from anything important and at an altitude that insides it's seen by the surrounding area
It's a false flag intended for a domestic audience. Shoes up support for the war by "bringing it to the home front" and paints the enemy as dangerous and willing to expand the war beyond the current theater.
It's the scale that takes away credibility. It's not exactly 9/11 is it?
>It's a false flag intended for a domestic audience
News flash:
Crimea is considered home front, Ukies bombed it, nothing happened
Donetsk is considered home front, Ukies bombed it, nothing happened
ok lets go even further
Belgorod is literally home front, Ukies bombed it, nothing happened
Only muscovites and petersburgians are human in the Russian Federation.
The rest are cattle, and their deaths are treated accordingly.
You got a point there.
Probably some of the nicest, cleanest, and crime free cities in Europe. It’s a shame they’re in Russia. I enjoyed visiting them a decade ago
>Crime free
Lol, lmao.
I’m from burgerland. Compared to the city I grew up in (Los Angeles) it was absolutely crime free
Organised crime runs both cities. The parts tourists see are kept free of (visible) crime in an agreement they have with the government.
I bet you also think that Cancun is crime free too, huh? If you've been there on vacation I'm sure you'd think it was the best city you've ever been to.
Why are you spouting bullshit like this? You do realize that there are plenty of people who lived in those cities here, eбaнaт?
If they wanted to do a false flag they'd have bombed an apartment bloc.
They have done it before, and it'd actually give them an excuse to call for a second mobilization. Your regular Russian would be outraged by this, but it's still not a sufficient excuse to call for a full mobilization.
This was probably the Ukrainians trying to put the fear of God in Putin and make him call off the May 9 parade, which probably worked.
The problem is that this was either an extremely well planned and executed symbolic strike by Ukraine, or an extremely retarded false flag by Russia. If either of the drones came from the North or East I'd assume Russia did it.
>willing to expand the war beyond the current theater
Weren't there partizan attacks close to vladivostok a few months ago?
If it was a false flag they'd have bombed a Moscow kindergarten. It's not like Putin is above mass murder for personal gain. I think it was either SBU or SBU funded Russian dissidents. And godspeed to the glowkranians.
More fake Russian shit and lies it seems
Kyiv suggested that Moscow “staged” the attack, which came ahead of a widely expected Ukrainian spring offensive.
“Such staged reports by Russia should be considered solely as an attempt to prepare an information background for a large-scale terrorist attack on Ukraine,” presidential spokesman Mikhaylo Podolyak said.
>one third of that non-bingo card is just seething over people calling them brown
Fucking nuts how they managed to bomb the Kremlin ngl
>Ukraine still hasn't taken Moscow
Why was Putin walking on the roof?
Someone said banan was on roof.
He was ERPing as King Kong with Shoigu when the drone stuck.
He's a broken man.
He was covering it with ERA blocks.
>FSB coats roof of the kremlin in ERA
>drone that would've done little more than start a small fire hits them
>ERA explodes causing the entire roof to collapse
I wouldn't worry about it
here's their nuclear response btw
> According to the latest data, 21 people were killed and 48 injured as a result of today's Russian chaotic shelling of Kherson.
I'm sure wasting ammo on killing civs a few days before a massive counter attack is not going to be a problem later.
I feel like this doesn’t get enough attention.
Unluckily Russians bombing civilians became routine really quickly. Even though there seems to be somewhat of an uptick recently, it's nothing that they haven't been doing since day one.
Uman bombing has made more of a splash. I’ve checked several world news sites, and this didn’t even make the first page. Seems like they are limiting Ukrainian news to one topic at a time, and today it’s the Kremlin drone attack.
It doesn't get enough attention because this is pretty much a weekly if not daily occurrence for Ukrainians, literally just another Russian war crime for the pile.
Thanks to language barriers, and a jingoistic zeitgeist totally inconceivable to the average person.. Russia has in a sense, "flown below" the Western moral radar.
>US admits they accidently bombed a wedding
>WHY IS OUR GOVERNMENT SO EVIL
>Russia is intentionally bombing relief centers and ethnically cleansing occupied areas
>pssh, yeah right, that's just straight up comic book villain stuff, man.
>School children taken hostage
>Assault the school with the army
>Some of the terrorists still manage a breakout long enough for one of them to be lynched
>333 civilian casualties
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org
Seriously, half my posts are from a phone and even I know to not give the mobile link.
Blow it out your ass
>jingoistic zeitgeist totally inconceivable to the average person
Not like there's a network of organized shills and useful idiots made specifically to denigrate and sabotage the worldwide image of USA as much as possible, no sir.
Also the first civilian bombing is a shock, the hundredth is long after everyone's lost hope for the aggressor.
>responce
the shelling took place before drone strike
>the shelling took place before drone strike
>aftermath of shelling is in day time
>drone attack was at night time
maybe
no. stfu
1st guy:
>Ex crime boss in east europe. Co-owner of night club currently. Gambling in crypto.
>Brno, Česká republika
2nd guy:
>Bulgaria
3rd guy
>Dad, hubby, software developer, armchair geopolitics, chebureki lover, landscape photographer, russophile.
>Kamloops, BC, Canada
as always, vatniks are all coward piece of shit.
>NOOOKS
>1 GORILLION DONBABWEAN CHILDREN
Why are they like this
The last two are almost certainly shill accounts.
>Canada
Every time
>Kamloops
I live in that area. 3rd is a cocksucker who is constantly writing Russian propaganda letters to the local news columns in between other pro-trump bullshit. Would beat his ass if I ever met him.
>Kamloops, BC, Canada
Almost certainly a chinese bot
The other reason he's wrong is because once you leave the mainland, the number of Chinese falls off dramatically and instead it's mostly Pajeets and rednecks
russia:
>kherson is russian forever
also russia:
>shelling the shit out of eternal russian city of kherson, because if monke can't have it, no one will
russians are experts at having tantrums whenever they get told they can't have something
exactly like a child being told he cant get a candy bar from the convenience store
Am I crazy or is the lady on the bottom left slamming a big gulp while she cradles her wounded child?
She's been given a glass of water. Are you trying to say that giving a casualty a drink means that something is being faked?
I'm not suggesting a fake, just a more American set of priorities that one might usually find in Eastern Europe
*than one might usually find
Asking for water when you're hurt is American priorities?
my point is that it looked like an oversized soft drink to me, which is indeed a very american thing to have, especially in a crisis
It's a 2L bottle of water anon
Kyiv insisted it had “nothing to do” with the alleged attack, suggesting it was “staged” by Moscow, while the US said the report should be taken with a “shaker of salt”.
“We do not attack Putin or Moscow,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said on a visit to Finland.
“We defend our villages and cities.”
On the same day, Kyiv said Russian strikes had killed 21 people in the southern Ukrainian region of Kherson – including on a supermarket and a train station.
Russia announced the drone incident after a series of major sabotage attacks in the run-up to celebrations for the nation’s most important holiday on 9 May, marking the Soviet victory over the Nazis.
“Today at night, the Kyiv regime attempted to strike the Kremlin residence of the President of the Russian Federation with unmanned aerial vehicles,” the Kremlin said.
“Two unmanned vehicles were aimed at the Kremlin … the devices were put out of action,” a Kremlin statement said.
The operation was described as “a planned terrorist act and an attempt on the life of the President of the Russian Federation”.
“Russia reserves the right to take retaliatory measures wherever and whenever it deems necessary,” the Kremlin statement continued.
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Putin was working at his residence near Moscow on Wednesday and would still take part in a scheduled World War II Victory Day parade on Red Square next week as planned.
Russia later launched a terrorism probe “in connection with the attempt to strike the Kremlin residence of the President of Russia”.
Kyiv suggested that Moscow “staged” the attack, which came ahead of a widely expected Ukrainian spring offensive.
“Such staged reports by Russia should be considered solely as an attempt to prepare an information background for a large-scale terrorist attack on Ukraine,” presidential spokesman Mikhaylo Podolyak said.
Ukraine consistently denies information about ongoing operations, especially inside Russia. That doesn't mean they don't happen, it's a war and they have ever right to strike inside Russia. But yeah, smoking accident haha funny.
Well that and alot of those ops run independantly of central command for opsec and agility reasons.
They are given a general order to fuck shit up however they can within set rules of engagement and can make descions without notifying central so they dont run the risk of getting exposed or missing opertunities.
it would be pretty funny if whoever did it... did it again, tonight.
Ah fuck it deleted the 'do' fitting it in. I failed.
Many such cases
is no one commenting on how a Ukrainian weapon managed to penetrate Russian air space far enough to touch the fucking Kremlin?
No one believes it was Ukrainian.
Really? Guess I need to catch up on the story then, sorry
russia does
Very unlikely to be that vs a small quadcopter that was launched locally which the ADN would never engage.
I think false flag by a hardline faction. That's highly restricted air space, and it's hitting dead center to the flag with controlled flight. Feels very theatrical. The explosive in question is not large enough to pose a threat inside either - it is a fortified building. None of it makes sense, but the anger is there, so false flag is the natural explanation given Russia's history on this stuff. Hardline faction might want it to add support for more war economy changes, conscription, whatever.
>le heckin' NATO-backed Ukrainian assassins sent a drone full of bang snaps into a flag pole
It's like the FSB doesn't even try to pretend anymore
I remember when this thing was first reported and talked about here on PrepHole today 12 hours ago. shills were bragging about how it's le epic to bomb the kremlin. Now they all are saying it's a falseflag, I wonder why. Did they get psyoped into believing it's a falseflag by FSBmorons? or was it really a falseflag? find out more tomorrow!
If Ukraine was even making a serious attempt they at least would have put a decent explosive on the thing.
Ukies suspecting UA did it was just them hoping the UA really had the balls to fuck with the Kremlin directly. I don't think Ukraine would ever risk attacking Moscow
the target was the flagpole and they missed.
>bragging about how it's le epic to bomb the kremlin
motivated reasoning, the post
/k/ommandos were laughing their heads off at the absurdity of Russia letting a Doolitle Moment happen.
Eventually their disbelief turned into "they can't be THAT stupid, it has to be a false flag"
>tovarisch…the Ukies, they've attacked the motherland!
>BLYA, HOW MANY WERE HURT?! THEY WILL PAY FOR THIS
>they tried to attack the politicians!
>tovarisch keeps walking
Кeк
>Sperm swallowing
You just know this ESL retard ran "cum chugger" through google translate a few times and this is the result
damn i been studying for finals all day wat even happen
UKR likely managed to hit the Kremlin with a couple of suicide drones. RUS freaked and decided to bomb some more civilian targets, and then made some vague threats about nukes.
Quite honestly, Russia, either nuke or shut up about it.
>be Vietnamese
>woke up
>saw this passed around by the pro-Russian crowd
>"it's gonna be another Liberation of Saigon, Russian tanks crashing through Ukrainian Presidential Palace soon"
I literally have no idea what happened there with the drone but I'm just really fucking tired of this general attitude many people here hold that the Soviet helped us back in the day so we must support Russia no matter what. It is even more a tiresome now since those people are obnoxious as fuck and try to spin any Russian setback as positive (assuming the drone thing is real). And to think that I thought at the very start of the war that the pro-Ukrainian people were the more annoying one since they tried to push that Putler meme.
Either way it's all gonna burn...
The only way that they'll ever learn
LIGHT UP THE NIGHT
it's either
>a genuine attack carried out by ukraine, illustrating how retarded and incompetent russia is
or
>a false flag carried out by the FSB/hardliners/whatever, illustrating how inept and incompetent russia is
We will still get the usual vatnik cope
>russia is finally justified in mass civ bombing
in any case, falseflag or not, the attack is still funny as shit and fucking embarrassing for ziggers
I'm a little disappointed that it didn't end up burning the flag. Would've been the most kino moment of this war.
FSB wanted the "flag still standing amidst flames" symbolism.
They probably told the 2 guys with fire extinguishers to keep the roof burning until they got the pictures.
bold assumption that 'russian intelligence' isn't the greatest oxymoron of the century
Got any pics? That'd still be a cool shot.
>And the rocket's red glare, the drones bursting in air, Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there
>false flag literally targets the flag
i know russians like to hide in plain sight but this is getting ridiculous
>Russian false flag
>targets literal flag
>misses
Pottery
Honestly it kinda feels too funny to be a false flag to me. Putin's bomb goons are no strangers to causing casualties, and maybe I've just read Red Storm Rising too many times, but I'd expect them to hit a class of schoolkids visiting the Duma or one and only one very specific key government figure. Bombing the flagpole is just such specific and potent symbolism that I'd lean towards saying it was either dissidents or some glowie branch telling Putin that "we can kill you any time we want".
Is Russia finally taking the gloves off?
>5/15 entries is seethe over them being shitskins
It needs Zelensky flying the ghost of kiev to be perfect.
no chance, they would have killed civvies. attacking the Kremlin only harms monke's prestige
>3x5
How are they so incompetent at everything?
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-3-2023
ISW thinks the drone strike in moscow has the hallmarks of a staged, self-made attack.
"Several indicators suggest that the strike was internally conducted and purposefully staged. Russian authorities have recently taken steps to increase Russian domestic air defense capabilities, including within Moscow itself, and it is therefore extremely unlikely that two drones could have penetrated multiple layers of air defense and detonated or been shot down just over the heart of the Kremlin in a way that provided spectacular imagery caught nicely on camera.
...The Kremlin’s immediate, coherent, and coordinated response to the incident suggests that the attack was internally prepared in such a way that its intended political effects outweigh its embarrassment.
...If the drone attack had not been internally staged it would have been a surprise event. It is very likely that the official Russian response would initially have been much more disorganized as Russian officials scrambled to generate a coherent narrative and offset the rhetorical implications of a clear informational embarrassment. The Kremlin has notably failed to generate a timely and coherent informational response to other military humiliations not of its own making, including the falls of Balakliya and Kherson City in September and November 2022"
I don't know about that... Never see malice in something that can be equally explained by incompetence. And russians ARE stupendeously incompetent.
Maybe it is the lack of wild, stupid see-through lies to explain this that tips them off? All explanations are the same, and came out in timely manners.
There were no "It was just fireworks exercise" or "it was just a balloon" excuses made by different government officials.
This is my assessment as well but I'd never trust the ISW to give an unbiased report.
>but I'd never trust the ISW to give an unbiased report.
Probably because you're a soft brained moron.
Are you actually claiming that there exists a well funded group of experts who all have the moral integrity to give a completely objective analysis of a war while being based in a country which is actively involved in said war?
>actively involved
As I said, you're a soft brained moron.
Clinical retardation
Actively involved means sending troops to directly engage the enemy or facilitate logistics or something. Sending weapons or doing a small amount of training isn't actively involved. You are not fighting NATO. You are losing to people you always looked down and despised and everyone, literally everyone around the world, is enjoying watching arrogant Russian morons who are enormously proud while simultaneously having very little to be preoud of get taken down a peg
Then I'd just say that the US is at war with Russia. Right now it's not but you can't seriously claim that NATO isn't actively involved in keeping Ukraine supplied. How'd you compare the US' involvement in Ukraine with say, India and Russia? Way to go quibbling over semantics instead of addressing my original point.
By that logic the Soviet Union was at war with America in Vietnam c. 1968. But it wasn't, and you're a coping gay. You are not fighting NATO. You are losing to Ukrainians. Deal with it.
>and it is therefore extremely unlikely that two drones could have penetrated multiple layers of air defense
Those retards know nothing about vatnik incompetence.
>spectacular imagery caught nicely on camera
There are dozens of 24/7 cameras overviewing Kremlin
>The Kremlin’s immediate, coherent, and coordinated response to the incident
What is a dictatorship with centralized propaganda machine
My favorite part has been the reactions of Russia and sadly a bunch of right wing pundit types.
>drones hit flags
>basically nothing aside from saying "look what we can do" if it was even Ukrainians in the first place
>OH MY GOD THEY'RE TRYING TO ASSASSINATE PUTIN
>THIS IS GOING TO START WWIII!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>5 days till the parade
>they probably will not manage to take Bahmut before it
the absolute state of russia
ukie counteroffensive soon and russians still don't have a victory to exploit for propaganda
Russia started to threaten Finland with military-technical countermeasures if Finland signs Defence Cooperation Agreement with US, and also implied that they're very worried and sad about Finland losing its sovereignty in the process. A beer bottle was thrown at their Åland consulate during our national get drunk day the labor day so they send a protest letter to our gov, and Zelensky visited our country yesterday and Russia could do nothing but watch since we're in NATO now.
Seems like this week has been awful for them and only keeps getting worse. It's great, I love it so much. I can't wait to see western tanks finally start getting footage when the ukie offensive turns hot.
lmao, great idea putin, run the possibility of opening up a second front, against NATO no less, when you're already getting your ass fed to you in a single campaign
5d checkers
A lot of this war has been
>They can't be that stupid.
Russia does the stupid thing.
>threaten Finland with military-technical countermeasures
Lol. Aren't the potential "military-technical countermeasures" the reason that pushed Finland to NATO?
Pretty much. A small neutral country has the patience to listen to veiled nuke threats and nazi accusations only for so long, while watching Russia invade its smaller ''neutral'' neighbors.
Every time Russia fucks up and shows a moment of weakness, someone will take advantage of that and try to leave from their sphere.
>A beer bottle was thrown at their Åland consulate
>so they send a protest letter to our gov
I hope they close the consulate in response to that letter
>the ziggers blamed America for the attack
You can't make this stuff up
that shit really is making me laugh right now
It's the best because they admit America can literally bomb their capital and there is nothing they can do because they are afraid any real response and are too weak to handle any actual response.
That's the funny part. You said USA attacked you. So what are you going to do about it?
?
>Russia still hasn't taken Bakhmut
>mfw: https://youtu.be/OmqLVrUXsTQ