Roiding In a Warzone

Is there a tactical benefit to being on gear such as increased performance like strength, endurance, and recovery or will it just cause negative side effects like hairloss?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    theres basically no legitimate benefit
    sure it grows muscle, yet it also fricks with your important organs & hormones, making a consistent soldier a inconsistent one, if everyone is having a heart attack every ruck march, shits fricked
    a good diet & constant physical exercise is preferable for a soldier, because soldiers aren't weight lifters, they're just average guys who work longer days & get less pay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      but I want to look like a bald lobster with raisin testicles...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If this were true then pro athletes wouldn't take so many steroids

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what a nonsensical answer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      hgh would be more useful since its good for recovery afaik. Steroids are probably a new negative

      Yes, but the logistics are annoying and most people are too stupid to do it right. Steroids WILL make you stronger, faster, and have better endurance. HGH will even make your connective tissues and joints stronger. You'll out perform a natty 100% of the time, all else being equal (training, diet, sleep, etc). Every time. Every legit athlete is using something, even if it's just blasting on the off seasons and cruising during testing/competition season. Being a muscle bound ogre is a myth--it's possible but requires massive doses and specific bodybuilding training, most athletes and juicing soldiers just do their normal shit and simply get additional performance from the androgens. This was studied thoroughly in the 60's through the 90's due to competition with thr USSR's athletes. We even developed new drugs just so we could dope our own athletes. It's very hard to test for this. High dose test is easy to catch, but the others not so much. And even then it just takes 2 weeks for enanthate esters to metabolize and leave you with literally 0 test in your system.

      Juicing super soldiers are ideal, but that means carrying a bunch of vials and needles around with you on deployments. Test enanthate for example requires 2 injections per week. I think most of the drugs are stable at room temperature. So that's technically doable, but a pain in the ass (heh) if you're in a trench somewhere. The hormonal and health sides are overblown and taken from extreme cases of bodybuilder psychos blasting massive amounts of tren or failing to control their estrogen. Once your lab work is dialed in and you're on a stable regimen there's no reason why you couldn't just shoot up in the field, but again it would be a bit of a hassle. If you don't keep up with injections you'll end up with crashed testosterone (literally 0) and that'll frick up your mood and performance. I know people who have done this.

      Dont forget enlarging your heart and turning you into a fricking hormonal mess.

      Not just those physical benefits but also better intrinsic motivation.
      There'd be a benefit especially for older soldiers.
      Shin cramps and being slower could be an issue.
      As long as logistics is decent.

      >Roiding
      Injecting drug addicts. Nope the frick out of that.

      https://www.addictiongroup.org/drugs/other/steroids/roid-rage/

      ITT worthless peaballed monkeymen junkies

      All right. I will explain the use of gear when it comes to the military. I was in the Army 2007-2014. I never took them, but I know guys who did. They fall into 3 categories. The first being, soldiers with non0combat MOS's who just want to be jacked. The second, solders with combat MOS's who think it helps them perform in the field - it's mainly a placebo to them. The third, soldiers with combat MOS's who have insane metabolism with 5% body fat & can't get weight if their life depended on it - i.e. when they go into the field they will just burn muscle since they are too low-fat to begin with. This many applies to special forces. They will be out in the field for operations weeks to months at a time with nothing but MRE's. So compensate for the weight they will lose in muscle since they don't have any fat to burn, they will do cycles before their deployment to gain as much muscle as possible. It's weird to think about it, but they need all that extra muscle to burn as fuel. If they don't do a cycle, they will end up getting too weak & skinny during their ops since they barely have any fat to tap into to begin with. As far as specific steroids, they would do test E, & dianabol or anadrol. I see HGH mentioned in this thread, but they 100% stayed away from HGH. First being, it's expensive as frick. Second, it causes everything to get bigger, not just your muscles - all internal organs get bigger as well. That's why pro bodybuilders sometimes look like they have a little 'belly', but with abs that are cut as frick. It's because their organs are enlarged pushing their stomach out. Where as test just makes the hear bigger, not other organs. So it's. trade off.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I know a guy whose insanely skinny even into his 30's when a lot of people put on more weight. He's a mechanic and carries out manual labour all day but you wouldn't think it. He tried bulking up one, I was sharing house with him once and I saw what he was eating. He was making huge dinner portions, eating as much as he could, the rest going for his lunch the next day. Loads of chicken and carbs, plus whatever he ate inbetween.
        He said he ate so much it made him feel ill, and he looked exactly the same as he did at the start.
        In comparison, I was also pretty skinny and lacked muscle, but when I was training before I joined the military I started lifting and eating and in less than 4 months people were commenting on how much I had bulked out9.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >theres basically no legitimate benefit
      moron

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    hgh would be more useful since its good for recovery afaik. Steroids are probably a new negative

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      moron. HGH causes organ growth and subsequent failure. steroids are comparatively much safer (but still unsafe long term)

      https://i.imgur.com/atnbUVo.jpg

      You need
      >good sleep
      >good food
      >excess calories
      >tons of protein
      >access to a gym of some sort, even if you build it yourself
      >the energy to lift
      None of which are likely to be actively available when you're out in the field, unless you're some logistics fobbit 300km from the frontline. If you were actively lifting and swole before you joined, you're not going to be able to maintain that body while in. The only way you're ever gonna maintain your mass is with roids.

      fricking moron. if you arent getting protein steroids aren't going to magically generate them in your body. have a nice day

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >if you arent getting protein steroids aren't going to magically generate them in your body. have a nice day
        Steroids increase your body's ability to use protein, so even if you're eating as much as someone who's natty, you get more out of it anyway.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    increases sex drive and thus likelihood of gay sex to build camaraderie and get bad tattoos

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >increases sex drive
      kills sex drive and shrinks the testicles and destoys them

      https://www.businessinsider.com/misusing-steroids-may-lead-to-damaged-testicles-and-infertility-2021-3

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Roids are generally the only way to maintain muscle mass with the kind of operational tempo and shit diet you're looking at, if you're anywhere near the front.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Actually all you need is protein and sleep.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Actually you'll get neither in a fricking trench.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Western MREs have protein drinks and also shitloads of protein in the rest of the meal. You'll get protein. As for sleep. Just wear earplugs or something. Like just get comfy in your foxhole and sleeping bag.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You really dont know how things are on a front line do you?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There can be good trenches and bad trenches. I know, but I don't really know. You don't really know, either. I still believe I know more than you, though. It's not like every trench is going to be bombarded 24/7. There will be sustained periods of quiet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >There will be sustained periods of quiet.
                That you're not being bombed this very minute does very little to lessen the stress from the knowledge that you could be bombed at any minute.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                eventually you mostly get over it and stop caring as long as it isn't landing directly on you.

                t. slept 14hrs a day at position during my first combat rotation

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                People obviously get over it at some point and fall asleep moron.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically this would stress me less than the idea of getting scolded or punished for falling asleep during my shift ir some other frick up

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                MOVIE

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How is insomnia and fatigue even real, like close your fricking eyes. lay down. Problem solved

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You need
        >good sleep
        >good food
        >excess calories
        >tons of protein
        >access to a gym of some sort, even if you build it yourself
        >the energy to lift
        None of which are likely to be actively available when you're out in the field, unless you're some logistics fobbit 300km from the frontline. If you were actively lifting and swole before you joined, you're not going to be able to maintain that body while in. The only way you're ever gonna maintain your mass is with roids.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/atnbUVo.jpg

      You need
      >good sleep
      >good food
      >excess calories
      >tons of protein
      >access to a gym of some sort, even if you build it yourself
      >the energy to lift
      None of which are likely to be actively available when you're out in the field, unless you're some logistics fobbit 300km from the frontline. If you were actively lifting and swole before you joined, you're not going to be able to maintain that body while in. The only way you're ever gonna maintain your mass is with roids.

      https://i.imgur.com/J4PRjUz.jpg

      [...]
      He decided to do TRT after getting out to take of his neck injury. Said as much on his subreddit when he started. He couldn't do the TRT while in the service, just like he couldn't get the tats or grow a beard. Did he take advantage of the fact he's getting prescribed roids to bulk up? Absolutely. But he still has a medical reason for it.

      the roiders are actually delusional

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >can't get enough calories and protein in the field
      >but can totally get a reliable supply of "supplements"
      interesting

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    None whatsoever. As someone who spent a good amount of time in the infantry, I've known quite a few guys who took bodybuilding seriously. They wanted to look good. Likely as not, they were the first ones to fall out on a babby-tier 12 mile ruck. They paradoxically never did all that well on PT tests either because their 2-mile run times (the standard when I left the service) were either barely-passing or failing. Muscle is just vanity, really, in an age where your basic rifle is capable of reaching out to 300m and killing your enemy. At the height of my physical conditioning, I was 5'11, 145 pounds soaking wet with a bit of that stereotypical skinnyfat belly, but could do a 12 miler with weapon, kit, and 45lb ruck in just over 2 hours. Yes, that's literally a weighted jog and yes, my knees and lower back are completely fricked. Muscle is pretty pointless.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Short version is that the military doesn't want to deal with your bullshit, they don't want to deal with the medical episodes, the mental episodes and some dickhead running around trying to score illicit drugs because it compromises your security dealing shitbags. Yes, the military usually has fair amount of shitbags to deal with before someone decides to throw their lot in with them, but the amount of sympathy for any kind of chemical dependency and excessive use basically none. You get the unfrick yourself warning if you're lucky, then they hurl you out to go be a shitbag on someone else's time and money.
      The only time I was ever given steroids by the military was for a lower back injury, which is healed up very quickly

      Medically, there's the depression, the ball shrinkage, cardiomyopathy, testosterone being out of whack, psychotic episodes, no sleep, having an awful diet and having to lumber your fat arse along trails high and low. Which you're going to suck at-

      because you're a huge lump of shit that can't run 10 miles without ending up on the b***h wagon back to base for some kind of strain or gassed out 2 miles in.
      I am a naturally big guy and I fricking suffered on heavy rucks to the point none of it came easy and I was always having to run 100 percent and fricking hating life pushing through one pain barrier after another, can't even imagine how much worse that would get for someone bulked up, ripped and no body fat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >can't even imagine how much worse that would get for someone bulked up, ripped and no body fat.
        It definitely seemed like it sucked, which was enough to keep me away from the bodybuilding shit. There were lards who had better real-world fitness than the "built" guys.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they were the first ones to fall out on a babby-tier 12 mile ruck. They paradoxically never did all that well on PT tests either because their 2-mile run times (the standard when I left the service) were either barely-passing or failing
      Muscle mass is extra weight and strength is pretty irrelevant to cardio, so there is nothing paradoxical there. Typical military shit needs endurance so being a strength athlete/bodybuilder does nothing at best and completely hinders you at worst.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >so there is nothing paradoxical there
        Maybe it's more ironic than paradoxical. I just find it strange that bodybuilding takes so much physical work but outputs results that are, at best (as you say), irrelevant to the most important kind of physical work done in the army.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's just fundamental to being a human, not military work. We have energy conservative bodies specialized in tool use and stamina, long-distance running. Extra muscle mass is fundamentally a hindrance to our species and it only develops out of necessity; strenuous, repetitive exercise. It's also because it's a hindrance that it's attractive, because someone who can work up that mass, maintain it and succeed anyway, is obviously going to be of at least decent quality.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It is pretty ironic that they exercise a lot and end up worse off but then again, you don't really study geometry to get better at algebra. At the level of athleticism that grunt work demands you have to specialize and you can't effectively specialize in two different things.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have a feeling if you had actually weight trained a little your back wouldn’t have been completely fricked

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You train cardio by doing cardio. You train strength by lifting heavy things. Cardio helps with doing long marches quickly. Strength helps with not fricking up your back and knees with a bit of b***h weight.

      45lb is the fricking bar you skinnyfat DYEL. It's literally weightless.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw literally ran 2-3x as much as everyone in my unit
      >barely beat 90% on PT test every year despite 100% on pushups/situps/pullups
      >get diagnosed with severe vocal cord dysfunction 4 years later
      shit sucks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you dont have to train and act like a bodybuilder to take roids. The benefits of anabolic steroids are not purely in hypertrophy. Maybe you should keep your mouth shut about shit you know nothing about. you absolutely would see benefits from roiding out at 145 lbs. There is a reason every mma fighter is on roids.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >There is a reason every mma fighter is on roid
        yea they mostly use it for injury recovery no to be huge you moron
        >this 125 fighter is on ROIDS so he can be BIG and make it harder to cut weight!
        lol this is moronic

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    protour cyclists (e.g. tour de france) weren't generally taking anabolic steroids in the heyday of doping, but epo was very popular because of the boost it gave to cardio performance. sometimes they died from taking too much.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Steroids can mess with your sleep, sleep is way more important

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely. Low dose test and eq do a lot. Better recovery, better retention of muscle mass with shit food and lots of exertion. More strength. More endurance. Doing too much is worse than not using at all, but for me, 250mg test-u/250mg eq a week works very well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is Garand on the juice? I remember watching a video and thinking the dude is an absolute unit now. Aesthetically speaking juicing is the way to go

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Note that he got larger and in his recent videos his face is very red all the time + his veins are popping more. Classic sign of steroid use.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Roiding looks unnatural. You zoomers fell for pharmaceutical schemes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >You zoomers fell for pharmaceutical schemes.
        They grew up during the peak of the superhero movie era where every hero they saw in the movies they watched was roided the frick out. Literally just body image issues from being presented with unrealistic ideals during their formative years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's made a few... changes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That mid-life crisis hit him hard

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I guess that's what happens when you've never actually deployed but have a legion of zoomers on your nuts like you're the living incarnation of Ares. There must be some cognitive dissonance there for sure.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/MK0xtyz.png

          He's made a few... changes.

          >growing a beard is a mid-life crisis
          are you ok, anon?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's not just the beard, it's the roids and the shitty tattoos combined with the beard

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I guess that's what happens when you've never actually deployed but have a legion of zoomers on your nuts like you're the living incarnation of Ares. There must be some cognitive dissonance there for sure.

          He decided to do TRT after getting out to take of his neck injury. Said as much on his subreddit when he started. He couldn't do the TRT while in the service, just like he couldn't get the tats or grow a beard. Did he take advantage of the fact he's getting prescribed roids to bulk up? Absolutely. But he still has a medical reason for it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah... I'm sure that's what he said.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It is. I'm too lazy to search the subreddit for it, but that's what he said. Taking TRT for his neck injury.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            his face aged a lot more than just TRT, screams superphysiological doses

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              TRT causes high blood pressure and excess red blood cell production. I showed PrepHole the same image and they said he was taking too much. Or at least that's what someone in the roids thread said.

              Anyway, he's become more pale recently so I think he's backed off the dose.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                TRT is literally REPLACEMENT levels of test you gorilla Black person. You should look exactly the same. I'm frauding, and I can tell you with 100% certainty that his "TRT" is putting his testosterone levels to at least double whatever his physiologic baseline is. The red, swollen face and aged skin scream test abuse. Normally I'm all for it, but he's using too much and looks like shit, all for performance gains that are useless for him professionally. It's not like he's stripping on camera or a fitness celeb.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But what about TRT for low-test?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon, but the goal of TRT is to bring your hormone levels back to normal levels, meaning you shoud look and function as normal. Anything more than that falls into performance enhancement by definition.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There's no need to take TRT to build muscle if you're somewhat lean and active like him. The odds that someone has low T while being in that condition is incredibly low and almost solely limited to guys with genetic issues or injuries to their endocrine system. Not to mention, anything over ~50-60mg a week is beyond natural levels and most guys on "TRT" are taking 125-200mg which is literally just a small cycle. None of that is relevant though because you can tell he is on way more than even the mini cycle dose, dude is blasting 400mg minimum if I had to guess

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            he's so fricking red now

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why do men do this to themselves? He isn't even an athlete, just why?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I noticed before he started roiding (or at least before his roiding started to show the obvious signs) he kept ending his videos with telling his audience to get their T-levels tested and shilling online test test (not a typo) kits.
              I think he noticed his T levels dropping a little (normal considering he's around 40 now) and overreacted.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                why can’t people just accept their age gracefully? I’m getting my first grays on the sides at 35 and I’m going to use it as an excuse to act like a senile old man

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Checked
                Zoomers and homosexualy men have this obsession about looking good and youthful, like Peter Pan syndrome but with cosmetics. If anything, ugly and old frick maxxing should be common.

                https://i.imgur.com/z3H2Nzd.jpg

                Administrative results is also thinning out quiet a bit, but at least he doesn't hide it.

                also checked

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yup

                Baldness caused by genetic lack of DHT processing. DHT is a byproduct of testosterone. Balding=high test. Caring about looks is for gays and if you take meds to stop it you should just make the jump to HRT

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nice cope. Balding is genetic, and it’s about how your body responds to DHT.
                You can be a low-test transitioning troony on HRT and still be balding.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Learn to read you esl homie

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's a good heuristic, but a heuristic nonetheless, because it doesn't explain how hair-loss worsens with age when testosterone progressively declines and why people formally diagnosed with low testosterone still experience balding. Rather, it's more accurate to say the testosterone-to-DHT conversion rate is the deciding factor in pattern hair loss, rather than simply testosterone level.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Agreed and there are individuals with high test that never go bald. So there are definitely exceptions. But test is a foundational part of the balding process and it seems that the rate of conversion is genetic. In gen pop it can be reasoned that a solid presence of test leads to balding.

                Also what do you think of post finesteride syndrome and the results of DHT blocking? To me the results seem consistent with test suppression- lethargy, muscle wasting, etc. So to some atleast, the process that drives balding enables greater baseline test.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not really an endocrinologist, so I don't feel qualified enough to present a sound opinion. However, I did find this study that implies androgen deficiency may not be a primary cause due to no observed changes in gene expression characteristic of androgen deprivation nor sequence variation. Thus, finasteride may be indirectly interfering with testosterone action through other means such as epigenetic (i.e. gene-regulation changing) effects.

                https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/101/12/4669/2765035

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting study, only skimmed it but it seems to have a decent point but also some shortcomings. I’m having trouble thinking of an effective way to tease out the mechanisms of PFS though. Especially the fact that some guys get permanent symptoms while others have the symptoms cease when getting off the sauce.

                Either way I think there’s something to be said about accepting balding as it comes. Being free of daily medication and avoiding the (probably underrepresented) side effects are big pros.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Don't take finasteride. It is poison.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I’m getting my first grays on the sides at 35
                I started getting my gray roots and sides at 23/24
                is it fricking over bros?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lmao no, just rock it. Confidence will get you so much farther than anything else as a man

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Its never been more over bro.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I started going bald at 23. My dad started going bald at 18. Too much testosterone burns out your hair follicles. Take the Viking pill (or Dwarf pill if you're a short king) and let it grow out into a gray skullet. Never trim your ear, nose, or body hair. Grow a large, bushy beard. Lift and work your core. Collect minerals and metals. Become skilled with an axe as both a tool and a weapon. Pick up women at bars and clubs (literally, just grab one and carry her off over your shoulder).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Too much testosterone burns out your hair follicles
                props to having this confidence about what you believe

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Dihydrotestosterone (DHT, 5α-dihydrotestosterone, 5α-DHT, androstanolone or stanolone) is an endogenous androgen sex steroid and hormone primarily involved in the growth and repair of the prostate and the penis, as well as the production of sebum and body hair composition.
                >In addition to normal biological functions, DHT also plays an important causative role in a number of androgen-dependent conditions including hair conditions like hirsutism (excessive facial/body hair growth) and pattern hair loss (androgenic alopecia or pattern baldness) and prostate diseases such as benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) and prostate cancer.
                DHT is at the root of the most common type of hair loss in men.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you'll pick up gay men

                you dont have to train and act like a bodybuilder to take roids. The benefits of anabolic steroids are not purely in hypertrophy. Maybe you should keep your mouth shut about shit you know nothing about. you absolutely would see benefits from roiding out at 145 lbs. There is a reason every mma fighter is on roids.

                gay

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >why can’t people just accept their age gracefully?
                Unironically the media, every male actor on the planet at this point is on roids and gets plastic surgery, you almost never see a balding guy in movies in any protagonist role either because most of them get hair transplants too, so people just kinda started forgetting what aging looks like and basically assume you're supposed to look like you're in your early 20's for 40-ish years and then magically metamorphosis into an old dude overnight when you hit 60 much like a Japanese woman.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Left
        >what women find attractive
        Right
        >what gay men find attractive

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      100%. Micah (the camera man) has made a few jokes about it during recent episodes, pretty funny when it happens.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It allows more muscle recovery and muscle size/ability enhancements. SOF isn't exactly good for muscles.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    More than anything, I expect it will increase the likelihood of homosexual behaviour unless there are actual females around to be raped or paid for sex.

    Addition of exogenous test, especially beyond recommended TRT doses puts libido through the roof.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but the logistics are annoying and most people are too stupid to do it right. Steroids WILL make you stronger, faster, and have better endurance. HGH will even make your connective tissues and joints stronger. You'll out perform a natty 100% of the time, all else being equal (training, diet, sleep, etc). Every time. Every legit athlete is using something, even if it's just blasting on the off seasons and cruising during testing/competition season. Being a muscle bound ogre is a myth--it's possible but requires massive doses and specific bodybuilding training, most athletes and juicing soldiers just do their normal shit and simply get additional performance from the androgens. This was studied thoroughly in the 60's through the 90's due to competition with thr USSR's athletes. We even developed new drugs just so we could dope our own athletes. It's very hard to test for this. High dose test is easy to catch, but the others not so much. And even then it just takes 2 weeks for enanthate esters to metabolize and leave you with literally 0 test in your system.

    Juicing super soldiers are ideal, but that means carrying a bunch of vials and needles around with you on deployments. Test enanthate for example requires 2 injections per week. I think most of the drugs are stable at room temperature. So that's technically doable, but a pain in the ass (heh) if you're in a trench somewhere. The hormonal and health sides are overblown and taken from extreme cases of bodybuilder psychos blasting massive amounts of tren or failing to control their estrogen. Once your lab work is dialed in and you're on a stable regimen there's no reason why you couldn't just shoot up in the field, but again it would be a bit of a hassle. If you don't keep up with injections you'll end up with crashed testosterone (literally 0) and that'll frick up your mood and performance. I know people who have done this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that's why I use test-u and eq. I can pin once a week and still have very stable hormones. Since I'm not on the ground for more than three days at a time it's not a problem at all.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the dose, depends on your pre-existing levels, depends on the androgen.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's kind of cringe watching him larp with them and the Ukrainian mercenaries during the demonstrations when he's never even been deployed to a warzone and the guys he's with have all killed dozens of people each.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      one the guy with him literally only went for a few month and was in a larp unit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that means he's still got more time than the guntoober.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If i remember he was kicked out of the british army, so take that how you want.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dont forget enlarging your heart and turning you into a fricking hormonal mess.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All I have to say is I'm not taking medical advice from PrepHole

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You shouldn't take advice from /k/ in general, any advice from this place is at best "I heard it from a guy who knows a guy" and at worst "it came to me in a dream"

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Creatine in the military would be okay

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the parroting of anti-roid karen meme old wives tales in this thread makes me sad. ya'll will believe any old horse shit the media and your next door neighbor tells you. I can imagine all of you standing and clapping when Joe Biden pushed for steroid legislation back in the 80s by filling everyone's heads with ignorant bullshit.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How long before he troons out and destroys another family? It's extremely common for egomaniacs to switch from trt to hrt after a cycle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Didnt he transition back

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, and then said HRT and societal pressure to troon out is evil shit that takes advantage of fricked up individuals for political brownie points. No one cares to remember this, though.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >societal pressure to troon out
          the dude is just a egomaniac psychopath, he only saw it as a way to get more attention for himself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the dude is just a egomaniac psychopath, he only saw it as a way to get more attention for himself.
            no the military literally makes people psychotic

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not just those physical benefits but also better intrinsic motivation.
    There'd be a benefit especially for older soldiers.
    Shin cramps and being slower could be an issue.
    As long as logistics is decent.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >As long as logistics is decent.
      No such fricking thing on a combat tour, if the last spot on the truck is for a tourniquets and morphine or HRT for the troons and gearheads.
      Well, we're just going to have to watch a whole much of hormonally fricked up individuals complain about it on social media or whatever you dopey c**ts do when you make moronic mistakes and can't blame someone else.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what a gay thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      testosterone use makes people afraid and feel like they gotta say something and make jokes and talk shit unprovoked in these modern estrogenic times. I've noticed a lot of "hurr durr steroids" threads all over PrepHole the last several months. meanwhile they're all smoking weed and drinking booze and eating mushrooms and dropping acid and stuffing themselves with goyslop all day

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        endocrinologist

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >hairloss

    Holy shit I thought I was the only one seeing this. The blinding bald spots showing through that tactical combover were genuinely upsetting me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      GT isn't the only one. Have you been watching Donut? I don't know if it's a midlife crisis thing or maybe he thinks it will help him with his audience but he hit the roids hard.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Administrative results is also thinning out quiet a bit, but at least he doesn't hide it.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hair loss is a tactical benefit when you can put camouflage facepaint on your shiny bald spot.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Being mid cycle in a combat zone is moronic. The ideal use case is having ran 1-2 moderate cycles and effectively transitioned off long before you’re in an austere environment. Steroids permanently boost muscle fiber nuclei. Otherwise you are stuck with the number you’re born with. Basically even if you aren’t actively roiding you will have a significant benefit over your baseline if you have cycled before.

    To all the pencils necks coping in this thread, there is ample research showing the physiological traits for SF selectees. They are around 6’, 205lbs, low body fat, and rucking is the #1 determinant of success, more so than running. Stats also show that the strongest candidates with mediocre (by SF standards) cardio perform much better than the best runners with mediocre strength.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      tactical advantage of atrophied testes?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        0 advantage. Realistically the fitness you need for operating or whatever is well within an average males ability. Steroid use is a shortcut which indicates a weak mental constitution which bodes poorly for combat effectiveness. I just felt like playing devils advocate for a bit.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Roiding In a Warzone
    no one needs childish rage fits by morons, roided cops should also be jailed. They are junkies who have done huge harm to policing. Roid addicts have destroyed nightlife and gyms and amateur sports and are worthless infantile rage filled monkeymen incapable of the good conduct and self control a soldier needs.

    For me roid users are the lowest of the low down with the heroin users, meth heads and crack smokers and alcoholics and about as mentally useful as well.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Roiding
    Injecting drug addicts. Nope the frick out of that.

    https://www.addictiongroup.org/drugs/other/steroids/roid-rage/

    ITT worthless peaballed monkeymen junkies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      virus don’t click

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    theres a million moronic genx boomer zogbots in this thread that seem to think anabolic steroids is just muscle in a pill like a shitty ben Affleck psa.

    Anabolic steroids have massive effects on recovery and strength. they are extremely common in special operations for this reason.Anyone telling you otherwise in this thread is a numbskull moron who yoy should shun and ignore.

    if you disagree you are moronic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >anabolic steroids is just muscle in a pill
      Roiding without training gets you more fit than being nat with training, this has been studied

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cardarine would be the most useful PED in this context

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