Rock-Back > Straight In

Rock-Back > Straight In
Extremely fast reloads only matters in competitions, rock-back is way more reliable than straight in

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Speed isn't the weighing factor here. Simplicity is important when you have a high-stress situation where you could frick it up. I'll take a mag failure every 1000 reloads over needing anything more than the roughest movements to reload.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I'll take a mag failure every 1000 reloads
      *every 5000 reloads

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      High stress situations are exactly the ones where you don't seat the mag properly on an AR and it falls out.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        High stress situations are exactly the ones where AR mags tend to fall out all the time from what I've seen.

        based shit internet anon

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They're both mine. Posted the first one and kept refreshing for five minutes without it coming up so I posted it again.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        High stress situations are exactly the ones where AR mags tend to fall out all the time from what I've seen.

        >seat mag, give tug before letting go of mag
        >g2g
        It’s literally that simple if you’re worried about not properly seating your mag.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If you want to seat a fully loaded 30 round mag on a closed bolt you have to slam it hard and even then it's not guaranteed to go in properly.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >in the middle of a firefight with 300 durka durkas and 500 jamals shooting at you
          >hands shaking due adrenaline
          >put mag in
          >forget to slap
          or alternatively
          >slightly touch the mag release
          >mag falls off
          While rocking in the mag will stay there until you push the lever and do the same specific movement
          Yeah it's a minor issue, but still is a issue

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        High stress situations are exactly the ones where AR mags tend to fall out all the time from what I've seen.

        >have adrenalin shakes
        >need to insert straight-in mag
        >slam mag in
        >need to insert rock-in mag
        >no crude motion available; forced to go even slower or risk fricking it up

        That's exactly OPs point. And quite frankly I agree, there's a lot of stuff oriented for competition that I'd never carry or use in the field. Doesn't stop me from liking it or using it for fun or in competitions. Unforunately, a lot of people who know nothing about anything and are starting to learn start adopting everything from competition

        >that's exactly OP's point
        No, OP is claiming rock-in's only downside is being slightly slower. My argument is that it requires a more complex motion with less tolerance, which sucks when you're in "oh shit" mode. Straight-in failures are induced by not seating it hard enough, where rock-in failures don't really happen only because you can fail to insert the mag in the first place. I'm willing to bet that failing to hook the rock-in mag on the first try is a lot more common than not seating a straight-in mag all the way, and tap-rack-bang is an easier course of action than the "stupid mag won't rock in" moment you could have.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No you don't seem to get it, the rock in stays in, there's no chance of mags not put in there very well mistakenly and then falling when you least expect it. An AK mag is not going to hand in there by a thread until it falls, you'll know for a fact you got it in there.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's still a more complex action where you have to be more careful, hook in the front on an AK or FAL mag, then rock it in.
            With an M16 you just shove the magazine in there good until you feel it click and it's done.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >"tap, rack, bang" is too complicated for some people
        it's all so tiresome

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >thinks its a vidyeah where you can spare the extra 2-3 seconds and it's cool you'll be back in the fight like in Tarkov

          It's all so tiresome.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      High stress situations are exactly the ones where AR mags tend to fall out all the time from what I've seen.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's exactly OPs point. And quite frankly I agree, there's a lot of stuff oriented for competition that I'd never carry or use in the field. Doesn't stop me from liking it or using it for fun or in competitions. Unforunately, a lot of people who know nothing about anything and are starting to learn start adopting everything from competition

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >You are good at whatever your are trained with.
    The end. Next thread.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      We're talking about firearm mechanical function, not training here.

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