Rock-Back > Straight In
Extremely fast reloads only matters in competitions, rock-back is way more reliable than straight in
Rock-Back > Straight In
Extremely fast reloads only matters in competitions, rock-back is way more reliable than straight in
Speed isn't the weighing factor here. Simplicity is important when you have a high-stress situation where you could frick it up. I'll take a mag failure every 1000 reloads over needing anything more than the roughest movements to reload.
>I'll take a mag failure every 1000 reloads
*every 5000 reloads
High stress situations are exactly the ones where you don't seat the mag properly on an AR and it falls out.
based shit internet anon
They're both mine. Posted the first one and kept refreshing for five minutes without it coming up so I posted it again.
>seat mag, give tug before letting go of mag
>g2g
It’s literally that simple if you’re worried about not properly seating your mag.
If you want to seat a fully loaded 30 round mag on a closed bolt you have to slam it hard and even then it's not guaranteed to go in properly.
>in the middle of a firefight with 300 durka durkas and 500 jamals shooting at you
>hands shaking due adrenaline
>put mag in
>forget to slap
or alternatively
>slightly touch the mag release
>mag falls off
While rocking in the mag will stay there until you push the lever and do the same specific movement
Yeah it's a minor issue, but still is a issue
>have adrenalin shakes
>need to insert straight-in mag
>slam mag in
>need to insert rock-in mag
>no crude motion available; forced to go even slower or risk fricking it up
>that's exactly OP's point
No, OP is claiming rock-in's only downside is being slightly slower. My argument is that it requires a more complex motion with less tolerance, which sucks when you're in "oh shit" mode. Straight-in failures are induced by not seating it hard enough, where rock-in failures don't really happen only because you can fail to insert the mag in the first place. I'm willing to bet that failing to hook the rock-in mag on the first try is a lot more common than not seating a straight-in mag all the way, and tap-rack-bang is an easier course of action than the "stupid mag won't rock in" moment you could have.
No you don't seem to get it, the rock in stays in, there's no chance of mags not put in there very well mistakenly and then falling when you least expect it. An AK mag is not going to hand in there by a thread until it falls, you'll know for a fact you got it in there.
It's still a more complex action where you have to be more careful, hook in the front on an AK or FAL mag, then rock it in.
With an M16 you just shove the magazine in there good until you feel it click and it's done.
>"tap, rack, bang" is too complicated for some people
it's all so tiresome
>thinks its a vidyeah where you can spare the extra 2-3 seconds and it's cool you'll be back in the fight like in Tarkov
It's all so tiresome.
High stress situations are exactly the ones where AR mags tend to fall out all the time from what I've seen.
That's exactly OPs point. And quite frankly I agree, there's a lot of stuff oriented for competition that I'd never carry or use in the field. Doesn't stop me from liking it or using it for fun or in competitions. Unforunately, a lot of people who know nothing about anything and are starting to learn start adopting everything from competition
>You are good at whatever your are trained with.
The end. Next thread.
We're talking about firearm mechanical function, not training here.