>rifle cartridge
>select fire
>AR weight
>detachable box magazines
what makes it an automatic rifle and not a battle rifle?
>rifle cartridge. >select fire. >AR weight. >detachable box magazines
>rifle cartridge
>select fire
>AR weight
>detachable box magazines
what makes it an automatic rifle and not a battle rifle?
it was issued to an autorifleman that's pretty much it. think of it like an M249 loaded with a STANAG
How come everyone didn't just copy this thing for the BR era and we got garbage like the M14, FAL, G3 instead?
Because thing is better on paper than in practice. It's heavier than FAL, has shorter barrel than FAL and M14, it is a new technology compared to M14 (which is basically.308-adjusted Garand) and G3 (upgraded StG45). I bet it also shoots worse groups than G3 marksman version.
Also what is M60
>. I bet it also shoots worse groups than G3 marksman version.
Soviets tested FG42 it shoot much better groups then sniper Mosins.
Sniper mosins vary wildly in quality and accuracy, so thats not really a surprise.
Sniper rifles, or service rifles selected for sniper conversions, of the era just had to make groups less than 4 moa generally.
>it is a new technology compared to M14 (which is basically.308-adjusted Garand)
The core mechanism is a Lewis gun, which predates the Garand by decades
>and G3 (upgraded StG45)
The hint is in the names, anon. 1942 was in fact earlier than 1945
Come now anon, just because it shares some design characteristics with a gun designed 40 years earlier doesnt mean the FG 42 wasnt more technologically more advanced than the m14.
>source: trust me bro
people who actually used it or reproductions say otherwise, but why do they know?
Wrong classification.
It's paratroopers machine gun. You can't arm infantry with paratroopers machine gun. You need an infantry rifle. And this is not an infantry rifle.
in order to fit the gun into the nazi weight requirements, the fg42 inventor created a gun that is just barely safe and held together with paperclips and chewing gum
It's just a sideways bren gun
it's a completely different gun, the bren is more than twice as heavy
Nono.. if you look at the magazine clearly other anon is correct
The report of the fg42 makes me very nostalgiac for day of defeat.
I don't know man, shit, can you just enjoy something and stop asking questions?
no
Pretty much because it wasn't developed or deployed as a standard issue rifle. Part of what defines a piece of equipment is how it's deployed.
The more you get into the weeds of militaria anon, the more you'll realize there's no exact science to classifying platforms. Its simply up to the country that's using it and for what doctrine.
The Battle Rifle moniker is a made up term by the civilian market, functionally an automatic rifle and a battle rifle are the same, what they were for doctrinely isnt.
Weren't things like the M14 and FAL just called select fire rifles until carbines like the M16 started showing up?
Basically?
The terms were all sort of amorphous, we would refer to an m16 as a rifle where someone coming from an m14 would probably call it a carbine.
As for weight what weight is quoted?
https://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt09/fg42-paratrooper-rifle.html
Type I is 9lbs without magazine. With bayonet and bipod.
G3A3 is 9lbs without magazine, without bayonet and bipod and firng weak and short .308.
>weak and short .308
this fucking board lol, you aren't all running around with .338LM semi autos
>not carrying .50 BMG LMG
I doubt you can carry 20 mm HMG.
>20mm mmg
ftfy
>weak and short .308.
It does it's job against human targets, has less recoil, does less stress on barrel and other mechanisms and weights less so you can carry more.
Point is if you remake FG42 (nit just rechamber) to use shorter round rifle would have shorter reciver and lighter weight.
Checked records. During Soviet trials FG42 shot 2.6 MOA groups. Ammo not stated bit most probably just ball round.
Might be.
When Soviets compared their army Mosin, Finnish M39 and experimental Dragunov-modifies Mosin, they used "Lion" rounds (most likely Finnish Lapua).
i want to FUCK that rifle
>and not a battle rifle
it never won a battle
fallschirmjagers equipped with the gun participated in multiple victories