Nope fully lifted finger off the trigger because I thought I was going crazy. Seemed to be a specific cylinder that was doing it. Told the store clerk and showed him he shrugged it off and put it back on display.
All this "nu-colt" "remlin" "Hillary Hole" bs is just a way to brainwash you and kill American industry. Colts fine. Guns are cool. The Cobra and King Cobra lines kick ass.
Basically, just go pick one up and frick with it for awhile. No need to ask permission from spergs.
>bs is just a way to brainwash you
That's interesting, given that it's a conclusion I have drawn myself from observing their quality go downhill. Nobody told me that. I learned it the first time I picked one up and fricked with it for a while.
>Basically, just go pick one up and frick with it for awhile
I own 4 "Hillary Hole" Smiths. They're not as nice as the earlier ones. S&W has been on a steady decline since before WWII. Colt held on longer, but they fricked up bad when they stopped Python production years ago and laid off a ton of workers with decades of experience.
> No need to ask permission from spergs.
Who's asking permission from anybody? It's a simple observation the old guns are better. And given that the King Cobras don't suffer from boomer inflated prices as badly as the original Pythons there's no reason not to consider them if you're looking for a Colt.
>> No need to ask permission from spergs. >Who's asking permission from anybody? It's a simple observation the old guns are better. And given that the King Cobras don't suffer from boomer inflated prices as badly as the original Pythons there's no reason not to consider them if you're looking for a Colt.
The good thing is as they die, the guns become available. Nice ones.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>The good thing is as they die, the guns become available. Nice ones.
Absolutely. And it's also good that Colt re-released the Python since that dropped the prices of many of the originals too. But sadly the price of the old Pythons are still disproportionately high compared to their rarity and quality.
At least Dan Wesson is still around, but they only make stainless .357 revolvers. Maybe if more people bought them and let colt ans smith die they would offer more revolvers
They look worse than the paki fakes. Machine marks under the cheap looking plating. Colt used to be the top and it looked like it. A lot of handwork and you paid for it. Now it's just expensive without any reason. S&W has a better trigger too so why?
This was my very first gun and an entire piece of the frame broke off after 17 rounds of 38 special factory ammo. Yes colt fixed it for free. Then the rear sight wouldn't hold zero (target model). Yes colt fixed it for free again. I didn't give a frick that time. Sold it for the exact same amount I bought it for to some shmuck because i live in a cuck state where you can only buy 1 gun every 30 days unless it's a transfer from an individual to another and he was rich enough to pay the premium to cover my taxes.
I'm in love with mine
Making good revolvers with a high level of QC requires hand fitting that isn't cost effective today, so there are a lot of lemons with any revolver. Luckily they tend to present themselves within the first 200 rounds or so and if you buy from a company like Ruger, Smith, or Colt they'll fix it (I've seen guns from all three break pretty immediatly).
Finding holsters and grips is a little annoying, and you have to make sure you aren't buying something for the V frame old school KCs, but the gun itself is fricking awesome. Gorgeous finish and the nicest DA pull I've ever felt, including old colts, pythons, and tuned berettas. Single action on mine has a tiny bit of creep, feels like a really worn in Sig 226 or something.
Mine doesn't have any visible machining marks and the fitment of the side plate is as good as you'd expect, as nice as any Smith I've held but you can still see where the metal meets unlike a 5k dollar Korth.
I really do want it ngl. Are they better since CZ owns Colt now? I keep thinking I should either get a new king Cobra or some old smith. I'm not sure yet. I love how the king Cobra looks but I kinda hate the qr code on the new ones. It's a toss
The new ones are as good as anything else, still revolvers which have never had amazing QC. Got mine a few weeks ago, absolutely no complaints. The QR does kinda suck but its better than picrel
If you put enough rounds through it to get decent and learn the trigger and it hasn't broken by then, it should be good for at least a few thousand more rounds. People never acknowledge it but old guns with complex internals like revolvers and lever actions had to be taken to the gunsmith way more than a modern service gun, they were never as simple to work on or unlikely to break as glocks or ARs.
>.458 WM to match your rifle.
I'm dubious that the BFR would be up for .458WM pressures. I think I've seen some revolvers chambered for stuff like that buy I assume they were mostly custom jobs.
460 and 454 are slappers, I used Hornady and Buffalo Bore.
1 year ago
Anonymous
From my math recoil is strongest with a heavier bullet, which tells me the 500 should have more recoil potential as it can handle bigger bullets. For example the Underwood 700 grain round is much heavier than the largest 460 I can find at about 360 grains.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I think what that anon is trying to get at, but failing at explaining, is that there are two components to recoil. There is the recoil energy and the recoil velocity. Most of the time when people talk about recoil they are simply talking about the energy but that's not the whole story. You can have two guns with similar recoil energy but the one with the higher velocity will feel "snappy" or "sharp" by comparison. Any trustworthy recoil table or recoil calculator online will compute both of those figures.
To help visualize it, imagine a strong but fairly slow shove compared to a short, fast, slap. Both could have equal kinetic energy but getting slapped is more painful than being shoved. Lightweight guns and extremely high pressure loads tend to have more "snappy" recoil (i.e. the recoil velocity is high). Heavier guns, those with lower pressure or slower burning cartridges have more of a "shove" sort of recoil. It's the same reason why some monster black powder rifle has relatively pleasant recoil compared to some lightweight .300 magnum hunting gun even though the big black powder slug has more recoil energy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Even still the 500 should be higher on both measures.
I compared using a set charge weight and gun weight is for my 460V so his longer barrel 500 may be less recoil, but the comparison is close enough.
>Left is 460 Mag 200 Grain Hornady >Middle is 460 Mag 360 grain Buffalo Bore >Right is 500 Mag 700 grain Underwood
1 year ago
Anonymous
How can you do a comparison without knowing what rounds are being fired?
And the longer barrel, and therefore higher weight and the center of gravity of the gun being farther forward, makes a big difference.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>therefore higher weight
The weight is huge. Consider that a 357 mag is quite comfortable to shoot out of a mid-size revolver, fricking sucks to shoot out of an airweight snubnose, and is a pussycat to shoot out of a full-lug long barrel target/hunting revolver.
I agree that it's survivable amount of recoil for reasonably experienced shooters, Ive actually shot that model with the long barrel and brake and it really is mostly straight back.
I take A LOT of new shooters out yearly, so the dial-a-yield on 460 is still attractive, but the gravitas of 500 magnum is also appealing. I'm going to be noodling on this for several months before I make a decision.
>stop this
I'm not following, regular redhawks are still in production.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Poor wording.. what I’m saying is why can’t we get the super red hawk sizes with the regular red hawk style?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ah, that's because some of these barrels stretch out to 10 inch. It's easier on manufactured on low-production guns to keep the same cast and machining and simply throw a longer barrel on. Super redhawk barrels are screwed in with (not intended to be removed) so it's the same initial cast from the Alaskan. Barrels screw into the frame with right hand threads. The threads in the frame are normal, but the threads in the barrel are cut shallow on purpose. As a new barrel is screwed into a frame, the frame threads act like a die and cuts the barrel threads deeper. This works much like pipe threads and hold the barrel tightly.
Not to mention, most people that buy a super redhawk want a heavy hunting handgun or something to deter lions and grizzlies.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm a little intoxicated sorry for the mistakes
1 year ago
Anonymous
The are completely different revolver designs. The Redhawk uses a single spring design and has a full grip frame. The Super Redhawk is essentially an upsized gp100 meaning it uses two different springs and has a grip spike and has the frame extension to make it even tougher, and to allow two scope mounts on the frame if that is what you like. I personally like the look of the Super Redhawk as it has that al meat in the back with a pencil barrel look.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The Super Redhawk was designed to replace the Redhawk, but during preproduction it was discovered that barrels would just...fall out, for some reason, so they extended the frame so the barrel had more to hang on to. Turned out to be fugly, but it offered a superior scope mounting location, so they decided to keep selling the Redhawk concurrently to this day and sold the Redhawk as a (more) hunting oriented revolver.
The barrel problem was caused by improper lubrication during manufacturer, but the design was finalized before this was discovered.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Interesting. I’m just not a fan of the super red hawk look with the long barrel.. I like the Alaskan.. just to me the long thin barrel looks like a bad afterthought.
custom BFR in .450 bushmaster. The revolver itself will be stupid expensive, but .450 is actually becoming easy to find and cheaper. Certainly more so than .460 or .500 s&w
I currently stock .458 bullets (it'd be annoying having 452s running around) annnnnnd
Hmmmmmm
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I've git a deagle in 44 and love it, but it isn't quite ridiculous enough for my comically large revolver.
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500 s&w is only a few cents more than 460. Hmmmmmmm tough call. The 460 would have ammo new shooters could use safely. 500 really is a lot of gun.
The BFR is attractive because I reload for 45-70 already. So I would have another caliber.
I just don't find the BFR an attractive gun, though. You aren't wrong if you do, but I don't like that kind of grip compared to the more modern looking 500 and 460.
They're going to be making BFRs in .500 bushwhacker soon. Because why not have a revolver that will kill literally anything that walks the earth? Also it shoots .500 s&w.
Based on what I've read they consider the brake essential to use.
I currently stock .458 bullets (it'd be annoying having 452s running around) annnnnnd
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The BFR is attractive because I reload for 45-70 already. So I would have another caliber.
I just don't find the BFR an attractive gun, though. You aren't wrong if you do, but I don't like that kind of grip compared to the more modern looking 500 and 460.
Tempted to buy this Sex Pistol. But, I feel like it wouldn't be as practical as my 642 that I can just stick in my draws with a clipdraw and not worry about the finish or the longer grip. Guess I should just finally get a 686 which would be better for the range.
Get a 460 for that sweet cheaper ammunition and variety in loads. 500 magnum ammunition and bullets are rarer, plus the 500 special is unobtanium so unless you only want heavy recoil, get the 460 or a ruger 454.
Get a 460 for that sweet cheaper ammunition and variety in loads. 500 magnum ammunition and bullets are rarer, plus the 500 special is unobtanium so unless you only want heavy recoil, get the 460 or a ruger 454.
Is it true that the 500 magnum barrels get shot out after like 10k rounds? Not that a lot of people will shoot that many rounds out of there, but I guess it would make sense given how hot the 500 magnum round is.
>10k rounds
I would expect that the forcing cone would be the point of most serious degradation. You've got burning powder at peak pressure moving through the gap and eroding the interface.
But I think 10k is a pretty reasonable design life for something like this. That's currently nearly $20,000 in ammo, which is a lot.
I cannot imagine anyone realistically shooting 10,000 rounds of 500 magnum out of one revolver. Your average person probably buys it just to have a frickhuge 50 cal handgun that will show it off to their friends once or twice a year. Personally, I probably wouldn't shoot more than 20 - 40 rounds out of one per year if I had one.
hell, even if they do use it. something insane like 10 handgun hunting trips per year plus zeroing at the start of the season and the occasional range day will not get the gun to 10k rounds even in your children's lifetimes.
hell, even if they do use it. something insane like 10 handgun hunting trips per year plus zeroing at the start of the season and the occasional range day will not get the gun to 10k rounds even in your children's lifetimes.
Given ammo costs I can't even imagine shooting 357 10k times through one gun in its lifetime. I can easily do it on my ARs or AKs, but on a revolver that holds 5-6 rounds I can't imagine running that much ammo through.
>10k rounds of 500 ammo at 3 bucks per round. >30,000 dollars on ammo, pre tip. >1,100 for the gun. >for that same price, you could go to Vietnam and pay some hookers to suck your dick continuously at 40 bucks per hour. 960 per day for your dick to be in a mouth, every second. 6,720 for your dick to be in a woman’s mouth every second for a week. 13,440 for a two weeks long blow job. Then you spend 10 grand on a Barret .50 cal, 2k on a scope, 4k on ammo.
>I would expect that the forcing cone would be the point of most serious degradation.
The local Range had to take out a .500 S&W Performance Center edition out of their renting collection last year because its forcing cone cracked. Don't know the round count but since it was a rental it most likely only got fed factory ammo.
No idea if that's a known failure point on those, it just came to mind reading your post.
>but I guess it would make sense given how hot the 500 magnum round is.
It really depends on what ammo is being shot. Yes, the max spec .500 Magnum is very high pressure but I doubt even 1% of the ammo on the market is loaded that hot.
BFR's are considerably stronger, with better fit and finish. Not double action, but few can fire Super Magnums quickly anyway.
https://i.imgur.com/7xSx14v.jpg
just got some extra money and I'm having a hard time choosing between the redhawk and the Blackhawk...
i know it comes down to single action vs double but idk which one i want more. i already have a rough rider and that's what made me want to get a more serious revolver, and that's single action and really fun to reload even, but i feel like I'm missing out on the swinging out cylinder and being able to just push out all the shells at once... >inb4 buy both
i don't have that kind of money
also what caliber? i was thinking 44 mag for the kick, but also the 357 mag is way more affordable and convertible to 9mm which i have more than a few spare boxes of already...
can anyone who has tried both give me their opinions?
I'm also open to opinions on other revolvers (that aren't Chiappa rhinos or Taurus)
If you're using it for defense, Redhawk. If not, Blackhawk. Both will work equally well for hunting, but the Redhawk will be heavier and more expensive.
>.458 WM to match your rifle.
I'm dubious that the BFR would be up for .458WM pressures. I think I've seen some revolvers chambered for stuff like that buy I assume they were mostly custom jobs.
It is a custom job, but .458 WM and .500 S&W are loaded to the same pressure. You'll wear out your wrists, both of them, before you wear out the gun.
>BFR's are considerably stronger, with better fit and finish. Not double action, but few can fire Super Magnums quickly anyway.
Lol.
Lmao.
1 year ago
Anonymous
To be fair companies know how moronic most reloaders are, they're just protecting themselves from some dickhead who jams extra spicy rounds into his gun, blows it up, then goes HERPA DERPA QUALITY SUX GIMME A FREE NEW GUN NAO
1 year ago
Anonymous
No major company maintains warranty if reloads are discovered to have been used. Officially.
>Redhawk will be heavier
By an ounce or so when comparable barrel lengths.
I’ve got a Ruger Alaskan I’m picking up in a few weeks, stocking up some ammo to put it through it’s paces with… got this in today… this is gonna be a shitload of fun.
Check out that link, it's an amazing story. It doesn't say in this article I believe, but the son ended up shooting the bear with a Ruger Alaskan in .454. If you look up present day pictures of this guy, he looks phenomenal now, barely able to tell he was attacked.
This story is the sole reason I won't trust anything less than .44 magnum hard casts against brown bears. As the article states, the bear charged 70ft in 9 leaping steps. Mag dump 9mm if you want, but penetration is very important and I won't trust 9mm anything to get through literally feet worth of fur, fat, muscle, and bone.
Jesus. I don’t do a ton of hiking, want to get my kids interested in it when they’re a bit bigger, I’m not usually used to carrying a gun, but I’d definitely consider it where I’m at in northern Arizona.. I don’t think our bears get that big, but I wouldn’t want to piss off an elk or a javalina.. we get mountain lions too..
Any gun for humans will be fine on mountain lions, just carry your edc. I carry an lcr which would drop a cougar quick. For black bear if they're in your area (like in flagstaff) maybe carry some fmj ammo or decent bear rounds.
I came about 6ft from a mama black bear and her cubs last year in Tahoe, she ignored me but had been harassing the trail because people were feeding her. Rangers said they might have to put her down.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>lcr >mama black bear
Well you're still here to tell the tale, would you have trusted it if she decided to maul you?
1 year ago
Anonymous
not him, but black bears are easy to scare away.
banging a cookie sheet against a frying pan is more than enough to scare them off.
1 year ago
Anonymous
for the most part. if they're hungry, black bears have been known to stalk and hunt down prey, or if they feel threatened (particularly sows with young)
>I’m at in northern Arizona
Go in and chat with Colleen at Reeder Custom Guns.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I’ll add it to the list of places to check out when I get some downtime in flag. I live in Prescott.. so out here it’s desert eagle, J&G and the trading post if you can catch them when they’re open..
>new grips and springs came in
I am excited my dudes. Will dry firing a bunch smooth out the trigger pull? I don't feel comfortable smoothing it out myself.
Yes parts in contact will smooth over time but you could do about 20K dryfire cycles worth of smoothing in 5 mins with a stone. If you do 10K dryfires you won't care as much about the trigger pull because your muscles will be stronger though. Gun is fine. Work on yourself.
NGL, I don't like auto revolvers.
I wish they made something that looked like the Mateba, but like a regular DA/SA.
Also, it would be cool if they made portions of the frame out of aluminum so it would be less safe with the spicy ammo morons put in revolvers.
Yeah, I don't think it ever really made it into production, but it was really frickin cool. It would lay flat like a normal speed strip in your pocket, but when you pulled it out it would close up into a circle kind of like a moon clip. You could insert them all into the cylinder at once, then pull on the end of it and basically rip it off of the case rims.
Bought it. Seems like it's a real nice and versatile piece with the only decide being no hammer (apparently hammerless has better DA though?) and the I HECKIN' LOVE YONKERS, NY engraving.
just got some extra money and I'm having a hard time choosing between the redhawk and the Blackhawk...
i know it comes down to single action vs double but idk which one i want more. i already have a rough rider and that's what made me want to get a more serious revolver, and that's single action and really fun to reload even, but i feel like I'm missing out on the swinging out cylinder and being able to just push out all the shells at once... >inb4 buy both
i don't have that kind of money
also what caliber? i was thinking 44 mag for the kick, but also the 357 mag is way more affordable and convertible to 9mm which i have more than a few spare boxes of already...
can anyone who has tried both give me their opinions?
I'm also open to opinions on other revolvers (that aren't Chiappa rhinos or Taurus)
>want a python >1500 fricking dollars
frick colt israelites. there is no reason a revolver should cost that much, unless it was forged from gold and imlaid with emeralds from a Black person mine.
Black folk buy $300+ shoes, women buy $2000+ bags, nerds buy $500+ .pngs. some of us gun spergs spend an extra thousand bucks so the hammer pulls back super easy
ive got 12ga slugs made up with white ash too spoopgay, im not even gonna burn your corpse, youre getting thrown thru the combine and that mush is getting put in the shit-spreader. when you reconstitute your accursed form and try to come back it happens again until you submit to my plan as using your kind as a supernatural bioweapon. so save yourself the time and torment and take yourself and the others to africa and depopulate the continent
It is very sexy and elegant. I am still leaning toward a more powerful round because I make bad choices.
I live in jacket-country, so I feel like I could carry a 5.5inch 454 SA Redhawk in a chest rig. Again, I’m not a wise man.
2bh I think the feds are starting to panic, the rate of noncompliance with the gun bans is going to be off the charts
coupled with the ATF's bullshit brace ban and how few Americans are even going to follow it, there must be a collective pant-shitting at the gun grabber level right now
>nooooo you can't just bear arms!! >ignore the constitution! >eat the bugs!
>it's straight back
What ammunition were you using that kicks straight back?
I ask because my 460V with 200gn 2300 ft/s hornady loads slaps my hand, then rotates about 35 degreees. Pic related at the beginning of June
Freedom is pretty nice.
Also: >Ruger Alaskan
That shit was prohib already, so you'll never get one here even if C21 gets scrapped.
So far it tastes like putting it on layaway till you get the other half of 1200 freedom bucks while searching for some 3$ a round 454 freedom pellets…. Can’t wait to fire it though.
Serious question though, in Canadian bear country do they expect you to carry a rifle all the time or what? I know you guys have a lot of weird ban stuff happening, but that can’t translate well to the middle of nowhere right? And last I checked something like 95% of Canada qualifies as the middle of nowhere…
Short answer: yes they expect you to carry a rifle (Non-restricted firearm)
Long answer: You can carry a pistol if you have a Wilderness Authorization To Carry, which is only given out to wilderness guides and hunters with a Trapper license (rare) so very few WATCs exist.
It's good. I literally just emailed all my representatives (federal AND state) to make it better. Who knows, maybe Florida will unfrick their laws a bit this year.
I have the Ranger II in .22mag. There's no way I would make a single-action, five-shot .22 my carry gun and it was a complete "fun gun" purchase. Still, it's definitely solidly built and a blast to shoot. No regrets on that purchase.
It arrived! And holy shit this thing feels like a weapon compared to my Glock17. Probably because it can be used to revolver whip a Black person to death if needed.
It's a Model 13-1, so it's made in the '70s. Damage from the blueing comes from holster, mechanically the guns is fine. Paid 150 buckaroos.
Very happy with it.
It arrived! And holy shit this thing feels like a weapon compared to my Glock17. Probably because it can be used to revolver whip a Black person to death if needed.
It's a Model 13-1, so it's made in the '70s. Damage from the blueing comes from holster, mechanically the guns is fine. Paid 150 buckaroos.
Very happy with it.
) is a Model 13-1 made between 1974 and 1979. Its a K-Frame, 6-shot 357mag with fixed iron sights and a 4" heavy barrel. S&W also made 3" ones with a round butt for the FBI. There are also nickel finished ones, which are basically the same but are the model sixty-something.
How would you guys typically conceal carry a full sized revolver if you had to?(4-5 inch barrel). I have only ever carry a car in the appendix position but what are some other good concealed carry positions? My friend told me to consider a shoulder holster but I hear those can be cumbersome and you have to wear a open jacket so you can easily reach in. Right now I carry a .357 with a 2.5 inch barrel in the appendix position. I'd prefer to carry my N-Frame 5 inch barrel .357 but the thing in appendix position is uncomfortable when sitting.
What are your thoughts on moonclips vs speed loaders? I have a gun that can take moon clips or just put bullets in the charge holes like normal. I tried carrying around the moon clips with bullets on them in my pocket and it just feels a bit weird. Feels like I might accidentally bend one if I sit down odd on it too.
I like moon clips because you would probably have to fiddle less if under stress or something. But carrying them around in the pocket just feels more cumbersome.
Where do speed strips fit in with all this? Speed strips are simple to keep in the pocket but reload speed with speed strips seems horrific. Maybe I haven't practiced enough.
I've always been interested in firing rimless cartridges in a revolver, but it sounds like moonclips are almost universally reviled. After searching for a few years, I recently came across a Charter Arms Pitbull chambered for .45ACP that I'm super excited to shoot. It's got some sort of internal mechanism for holding rimless cartridges in place, so no need for moonclips.
They've got them in a few other calibers, too, but I've never had an interest in .40, the 9mm had mixed reviews (plus, I've got enough 9mm semis, already), and I don't see much use in the .380 when there are so many concealment. 38spl and .357 options available.
Went shooting for the first time in a while today. Somehow I was way more accurate with a j frame airweight than with a glock 19 or p365xl even though it beat the shit out of my hand in 50 rounds and has a way heavier trigger. Why might this be?
Because glock triggers are notoriously shit by default, which makes training with them obligatory. A heavier gun with a better trigger mitigates bad technique, at least that's my observation. When switching from a glock to another gun I keep the focus on persistent grip and trigger pull, like I'd do with a glock.
Dunno about the 365 tho
My "bump in the night" gun.
Hate your neighbors?
Love thy neighbor as thyself.
imagine firing that thing indoors
5.5mm Velo-Dog
Talk me out of getting one of the new colt king cobras
I finger fricked one a the store and was able to consistently get it to not rotate the cylinder in double action.
Did you just not let the trigger fully reset like a tard?
Nope fully lifted finger off the trigger because I thought I was going crazy. Seemed to be a specific cylinder that was doing it. Told the store clerk and showed him he shrugged it off and put it back on display.
Is the fact that they are pieces of shit not enough?
They're just classic. No Hillary Hole. No manual safety. Just a hunk of steel and 6 rounds of .357 Magnum. What's not to love?
>What's not to love?
Nu-Colt sucks, and old ones are readily available?
All this "nu-colt" "remlin" "Hillary Hole" bs is just a way to brainwash you and kill American industry. Colts fine. Guns are cool. The Cobra and King Cobra lines kick ass.
Basically, just go pick one up and frick with it for awhile. No need to ask permission from spergs.
Colt is not fine, and hasn't been for 40 years
>bs is just a way to brainwash you
That's interesting, given that it's a conclusion I have drawn myself from observing their quality go downhill. Nobody told me that. I learned it the first time I picked one up and fricked with it for a while.
>Basically, just go pick one up and frick with it for awhile
I own 4 "Hillary Hole" Smiths. They're not as nice as the earlier ones. S&W has been on a steady decline since before WWII. Colt held on longer, but they fricked up bad when they stopped Python production years ago and laid off a ton of workers with decades of experience.
> No need to ask permission from spergs.
Who's asking permission from anybody? It's a simple observation the old guns are better. And given that the King Cobras don't suffer from boomer inflated prices as badly as the original Pythons there's no reason not to consider them if you're looking for a Colt.
>> No need to ask permission from spergs.
>Who's asking permission from anybody? It's a simple observation the old guns are better. And given that the King Cobras don't suffer from boomer inflated prices as badly as the original Pythons there's no reason not to consider them if you're looking for a Colt.
The good thing is as they die, the guns become available. Nice ones.
>The good thing is as they die, the guns become available. Nice ones.
Absolutely. And it's also good that Colt re-released the Python since that dropped the prices of many of the originals too. But sadly the price of the old Pythons are still disproportionately high compared to their rarity and quality.
At least Dan Wesson is still around, but they only make stainless .357 revolvers. Maybe if more people bought them and let colt ans smith die they would offer more revolvers
I didn't think DW still made revolvers.
They look worse than the paki fakes. Machine marks under the cheap looking plating. Colt used to be the top and it looked like it. A lot of handwork and you paid for it. Now it's just expensive without any reason. S&W has a better trigger too so why?
This was my very first gun and an entire piece of the frame broke off after 17 rounds of 38 special factory ammo. Yes colt fixed it for free. Then the rear sight wouldn't hold zero (target model). Yes colt fixed it for free again. I didn't give a frick that time. Sold it for the exact same amount I bought it for to some shmuck because i live in a cuck state where you can only buy 1 gun every 30 days unless it's a transfer from an individual to another and he was rich enough to pay the premium to cover my taxes.
Modern Colt is worse than Taurus
Braindead take
Just get a 3" 856.
I'm in love with mine
Making good revolvers with a high level of QC requires hand fitting that isn't cost effective today, so there are a lot of lemons with any revolver. Luckily they tend to present themselves within the first 200 rounds or so and if you buy from a company like Ruger, Smith, or Colt they'll fix it (I've seen guns from all three break pretty immediatly).
Finding holsters and grips is a little annoying, and you have to make sure you aren't buying something for the V frame old school KCs, but the gun itself is fricking awesome. Gorgeous finish and the nicest DA pull I've ever felt, including old colts, pythons, and tuned berettas. Single action on mine has a tiny bit of creep, feels like a really worn in Sig 226 or something.
Mine doesn't have any visible machining marks and the fitment of the side plate is as good as you'd expect, as nice as any Smith I've held but you can still see where the metal meets unlike a 5k dollar Korth.
I really do want it ngl. Are they better since CZ owns Colt now? I keep thinking I should either get a new king Cobra or some old smith. I'm not sure yet. I love how the king Cobra looks but I kinda hate the qr code on the new ones. It's a toss
The new ones are as good as anything else, still revolvers which have never had amazing QC. Got mine a few weeks ago, absolutely no complaints. The QR does kinda suck but its better than picrel
If you put enough rounds through it to get decent and learn the trigger and it hasn't broken by then, it should be good for at least a few thousand more rounds. People never acknowledge it but old guns with complex internals like revolvers and lever actions had to be taken to the gunsmith way more than a modern service gun, they were never as simple to work on or unlikely to break as glocks or ARs.
.32 long is best revolver caliber
/thread
Who?
My SP101 can sling those too.
Oh man 130gr @1200 fps, how can you handle such powah?
1300* and that's almost 500ftlbs. That's on par with some factory .357 ammo.
ah, the thread for me
How big is a big bore?
I think anything over .40 caliber counts.
Anything over .22
Definitions change over time, but generally speaking big bores are ≥.40
Get a BFR in .45-90 (this will also shoot .45-70). Send it off to be modified to accept .458 WM to match your rifle. Frick your wrists.
>.458 WM to match your rifle.
I'm dubious that the BFR would be up for .458WM pressures. I think I've seen some revolvers chambered for stuff like that buy I assume they were mostly custom jobs.
Shill me on the biggest stupidest revolver for my collection. I'm getting a big stupid rifle (.458WM) but I only have a 357 revolver.
460 XVR
uses gain twist rifling like God and Samuel Colt intended
fires anything .45 Colt based
is bigg
is loud
is fun
Hmmmmmm
I've git a deagle in 44 and love it, but it isn't quite ridiculous enough for my comically large revolver.
500 s&w is only a few cents more than 460. Hmmmmmmm tough call. The 460 would have ammo new shooters could use safely. 500 really is a lot of gun.
>500 really is a lot of gun.
The kick is really overblown, it's straight back and not too bad. My 10mm hurts more because of muzzle flip.
>it's straight back
What ammunition were you using that kicks straight back?
I ask because my 460V with 200gn 2300 ft/s hornady loads slaps my hand, then rotates about 35 degreees. Pic related
460 and 454 are slappers, I used Hornady and Buffalo Bore.
From my math recoil is strongest with a heavier bullet, which tells me the 500 should have more recoil potential as it can handle bigger bullets. For example the Underwood 700 grain round is much heavier than the largest 460 I can find at about 360 grains.
I think what that anon is trying to get at, but failing at explaining, is that there are two components to recoil. There is the recoil energy and the recoil velocity. Most of the time when people talk about recoil they are simply talking about the energy but that's not the whole story. You can have two guns with similar recoil energy but the one with the higher velocity will feel "snappy" or "sharp" by comparison. Any trustworthy recoil table or recoil calculator online will compute both of those figures.
To help visualize it, imagine a strong but fairly slow shove compared to a short, fast, slap. Both could have equal kinetic energy but getting slapped is more painful than being shoved. Lightweight guns and extremely high pressure loads tend to have more "snappy" recoil (i.e. the recoil velocity is high). Heavier guns, those with lower pressure or slower burning cartridges have more of a "shove" sort of recoil. It's the same reason why some monster black powder rifle has relatively pleasant recoil compared to some lightweight .300 magnum hunting gun even though the big black powder slug has more recoil energy.
Even still the 500 should be higher on both measures.
I compared using a set charge weight and gun weight is for my 460V so his longer barrel 500 may be less recoil, but the comparison is close enough.
>Left is 460 Mag 200 Grain Hornady
>Middle is 460 Mag 360 grain Buffalo Bore
>Right is 500 Mag 700 grain Underwood
How can you do a comparison without knowing what rounds are being fired?
And the longer barrel, and therefore higher weight and the center of gravity of the gun being farther forward, makes a big difference.
>therefore higher weight
The weight is huge. Consider that a 357 mag is quite comfortable to shoot out of a mid-size revolver, fricking sucks to shoot out of an airweight snubnose, and is a pussycat to shoot out of a full-lug long barrel target/hunting revolver.
I agree that it's survivable amount of recoil for reasonably experienced shooters, Ive actually shot that model with the long barrel and brake and it really is mostly straight back.
I take A LOT of new shooters out yearly, so the dial-a-yield on 460 is still attractive, but the gravitas of 500 magnum is also appealing. I'm going to be noodling on this for several months before I make a decision.
44 mag is cheap compared to 500/454 and much more available. It'll also drop anything it points at that walks on land.
But 454 can shoot 45 colt, 45 scoffield
44 mag can shoot 44 special.
And 44 special is shit and costs more than 45 colt
>bbbut MUH bulldogs MUH son of sam
because it's so cool that a fat israelite incel used .44 special to shoot women
Objectively wrong
44 special loaded right is 45 super/10mm essentialy
And 45acp, 460 Rowland and 45 Winchester Mag… minor moon clip mod to cylinder
>460 Rowland
Unserrated cartridge.
I don't think any cartridges are serrated, anon.
Why did Ruger drop this aesthetic and go to the “snub nose with a straw” for the super RedHawks?
Because that's not a super redhawk.
Yes, it’s a regular red hawk.. it looks great… why the hell did they stop this and start doing this?
>stop this
I'm not following, regular redhawks are still in production.
Poor wording.. what I’m saying is why can’t we get the super red hawk sizes with the regular red hawk style?
Ah, that's because some of these barrels stretch out to 10 inch. It's easier on manufactured on low-production guns to keep the same cast and machining and simply throw a longer barrel on. Super redhawk barrels are screwed in with (not intended to be removed) so it's the same initial cast from the Alaskan. Barrels screw into the frame with right hand threads. The threads in the frame are normal, but the threads in the barrel are cut shallow on purpose. As a new barrel is screwed into a frame, the frame threads act like a die and cuts the barrel threads deeper. This works much like pipe threads and hold the barrel tightly.
Not to mention, most people that buy a super redhawk want a heavy hunting handgun or something to deter lions and grizzlies.
I'm a little intoxicated sorry for the mistakes
The are completely different revolver designs. The Redhawk uses a single spring design and has a full grip frame. The Super Redhawk is essentially an upsized gp100 meaning it uses two different springs and has a grip spike and has the frame extension to make it even tougher, and to allow two scope mounts on the frame if that is what you like. I personally like the look of the Super Redhawk as it has that al meat in the back with a pencil barrel look.
The Super Redhawk was designed to replace the Redhawk, but during preproduction it was discovered that barrels would just...fall out, for some reason, so they extended the frame so the barrel had more to hang on to. Turned out to be fugly, but it offered a superior scope mounting location, so they decided to keep selling the Redhawk concurrently to this day and sold the Redhawk as a (more) hunting oriented revolver.
The barrel problem was caused by improper lubrication during manufacturer, but the design was finalized before this was discovered.
Interesting. I’m just not a fan of the super red hawk look with the long barrel.. I like the Alaskan.. just to me the long thin barrel looks like a bad afterthought.
how many shots to kill a bear?
>biggest stupidest revolver
If not .500SW mag what else?
.44 magnum is probably your most practical of the big bore calibers
Affordable, will take down most anything on the North American continent
custom BFR in .450 bushmaster. The revolver itself will be stupid expensive, but .450 is actually becoming easy to find and cheaper. Certainly more so than .460 or .500 s&w
I currently stock .458 bullets (it'd be annoying having 452s running around) annnnnnd
The BFR is attractive because I reload for 45-70 already. So I would have another caliber.
I just don't find the BFR an attractive gun, though. You aren't wrong if you do, but I don't like that kind of grip compared to the more modern looking 500 and 460.
They're going to be making BFRs in .500 bushwhacker soon. Because why not have a revolver that will kill literally anything that walks the earth? Also it shoots .500 s&w.
Are they keeping the brake? Not gonna lie I really want one just because it’s so stupid crazy…
Anon… I have dreams…. Dreams of holding a shell the size of a cigar… then putting it in a handgun and firing it….
Based on what I've read they consider the brake essential to use.
.45-70 is hilarious out of one of these.
More like Tauru Raging homosexual.
The Century Model 100 in .45-70 is the most ridiculously oversized revolver I have been able to find.
luv me wheelies
Tempted to buy this Sex Pistol. But, I feel like it wouldn't be as practical as my 642 that I can just stick in my draws with a clipdraw and not worry about the finish or the longer grip. Guess I should just finally get a 686 which would be better for the range.
Talk me out of buying a S&W 500.
Get a 460 for that sweet cheaper ammunition and variety in loads. 500 magnum ammunition and bullets are rarer, plus the 500 special is unobtanium so unless you only want heavy recoil, get the 460 or a ruger 454.
Is it true that the 500 magnum barrels get shot out after like 10k rounds? Not that a lot of people will shoot that many rounds out of there, but I guess it would make sense given how hot the 500 magnum round is.
>10k rounds
I would expect that the forcing cone would be the point of most serious degradation. You've got burning powder at peak pressure moving through the gap and eroding the interface.
But I think 10k is a pretty reasonable design life for something like this. That's currently nearly $20,000 in ammo, which is a lot.
I cannot imagine anyone realistically shooting 10,000 rounds of 500 magnum out of one revolver. Your average person probably buys it just to have a frickhuge 50 cal handgun that will show it off to their friends once or twice a year. Personally, I probably wouldn't shoot more than 20 - 40 rounds out of one per year if I had one.
hell, even if they do use it. something insane like 10 handgun hunting trips per year plus zeroing at the start of the season and the occasional range day will not get the gun to 10k rounds even in your children's lifetimes.
Given ammo costs I can't even imagine shooting 357 10k times through one gun in its lifetime. I can easily do it on my ARs or AKs, but on a revolver that holds 5-6 rounds I can't imagine running that much ammo through.
>10k rounds of 500 ammo at 3 bucks per round.
>30,000 dollars on ammo, pre tip.
>1,100 for the gun.
>for that same price, you could go to Vietnam and pay some hookers to suck your dick continuously at 40 bucks per hour. 960 per day for your dick to be in a mouth, every second. 6,720 for your dick to be in a woman’s mouth every second for a week. 13,440 for a two weeks long blow job. Then you spend 10 grand on a Barret .50 cal, 2k on a scope, 4k on ammo.
That’s a better deal.
>I would expect that the forcing cone would be the point of most serious degradation.
The local Range had to take out a .500 S&W Performance Center edition out of their renting collection last year because its forcing cone cracked. Don't know the round count but since it was a rental it most likely only got fed factory ammo.
No idea if that's a known failure point on those, it just came to mind reading your post.
Rental guns get the everloving frick beaten out of them. I wonder if the forcing come can realistically be replaced.
It's hideous, I hate it.
Do they all have brass frames because I can't imagine that is up for powerful .45-70.
>I wonder if the forcing come can realistically be replaced.
It's part of the barrel bro....you just replace the barrel...
>but I guess it would make sense given how hot the 500 magnum round is.
It really depends on what ammo is being shot. Yes, the max spec .500 Magnum is very high pressure but I doubt even 1% of the ammo on the market is loaded that hot.
1. no ones shooting 10K of 500 S&W homosexual
2. it would probably be 460 first before 500
I never said anyone would shoot 10k rounds of 500 magnum, frickhead. Read the post again.
3,500 on the lower end, they’re just not very durable revolvers.
>they’re just not very durable revolvers
They sling 3k ftlbs of energy, what do you want from a handgun?
BFR's are considerably stronger, with better fit and finish. Not double action, but few can fire Super Magnums quickly anyway.
If you're using it for defense, Redhawk. If not, Blackhawk. Both will work equally well for hunting, but the Redhawk will be heavier and more expensive.
It is a custom job, but .458 WM and .500 S&W are loaded to the same pressure. You'll wear out your wrists, both of them, before you wear out the gun.
>BFR's are considerably stronger, with better fit and finish. Not double action, but few can fire Super Magnums quickly anyway.
Lol.
Lmao.
To be fair companies know how moronic most reloaders are, they're just protecting themselves from some dickhead who jams extra spicy rounds into his gun, blows it up, then goes HERPA DERPA QUALITY SUX GIMME A FREE NEW GUN NAO
No major company maintains warranty if reloads are discovered to have been used. Officially.
More like 4 oz, but whatever.
>Redhawk will be heavier
By an ounce or so when comparable barrel lengths.
For killing and skinning skinwalkers
Would mind telling what kind of knife that is, friend? Been thinking of getting an EDC knife
It's not exactly the best EDC knife (unless you hike as a profession), but it's a Fox FX-140XL.
It is a hefty hunk of steel, for sure
Its an industrial piece of shit, but the OG ones are made by Markus Reichardt , a german knifemaker. He also makes bigger and smaller iterations.
I cant tell if that's a comically small gun or a comically large knife
It’s missing the feet
It’s in 460 s/w…. So the answer is that both that revolver is comically oversized and that knife is the size of a decent Bowie knife.
What's the largest caliber/bore snubnose?
I think they make a 2.75" 500, which is pretty snubby.
Damn, that is pretty big & short. Thanks anon.
I’ve got a Ruger Alaskan I’m picking up in a few weeks, stocking up some ammo to put it through it’s paces with… got this in today… this is gonna be a shitload of fun.
>1600 ftlbs
>handgun
And I thought their 357 outdoorsman was bad.
I won’t get quite that much out of an Alaskan since it’s only got a 2.5 inch barrel, but I expect it’s gonna be a hell of a kick.
https://www.oelmag.com/graphic-man-loses-face-in-alaskan-grizzly-bear-attack-but-considers-himself-lucky-to-be-alive/
Check out that link, it's an amazing story. It doesn't say in this article I believe, but the son ended up shooting the bear with a Ruger Alaskan in .454. If you look up present day pictures of this guy, he looks phenomenal now, barely able to tell he was attacked.
This story is the sole reason I won't trust anything less than .44 magnum hard casts against brown bears. As the article states, the bear charged 70ft in 9 leaping steps. Mag dump 9mm if you want, but penetration is very important and I won't trust 9mm anything to get through literally feet worth of fur, fat, muscle, and bone.
Jesus. I don’t do a ton of hiking, want to get my kids interested in it when they’re a bit bigger, I’m not usually used to carrying a gun, but I’d definitely consider it where I’m at in northern Arizona.. I don’t think our bears get that big, but I wouldn’t want to piss off an elk or a javalina.. we get mountain lions too..
Any gun for humans will be fine on mountain lions, just carry your edc. I carry an lcr which would drop a cougar quick. For black bear if they're in your area (like in flagstaff) maybe carry some fmj ammo or decent bear rounds.
I came about 6ft from a mama black bear and her cubs last year in Tahoe, she ignored me but had been harassing the trail because people were feeding her. Rangers said they might have to put her down.
>lcr
>mama black bear
Well you're still here to tell the tale, would you have trusted it if she decided to maul you?
not him, but black bears are easy to scare away.
banging a cookie sheet against a frying pan is more than enough to scare them off.
for the most part. if they're hungry, black bears have been known to stalk and hunt down prey, or if they feel threatened (particularly sows with young)
>I’m at in northern Arizona
Go in and chat with Colleen at Reeder Custom Guns.
I’ll add it to the list of places to check out when I get some downtime in flag. I live in Prescott.. so out here it’s desert eagle, J&G and the trading post if you can catch them when they’re open..
>new grips and springs came in
I am excited my dudes. Will dry firing a bunch smooth out the trigger pull? I don't feel comfortable smoothing it out myself.
Yes parts in contact will smooth over time but you could do about 20K dryfire cycles worth of smoothing in 5 mins with a stone. If you do 10K dryfires you won't care as much about the trigger pull because your muscles will be stronger though. Gun is fine. Work on yourself.
I dont have a stone and im afraid of fricking up my parts
What kind of revolver is it?
Smith and wesson 686+
Have you tried it with the new springs yet? That should make a difference. Do you want to smooth the DA pull, the SA, both?
I already did
Didn't smooth out anything and it still cleared out like 85% of the grit in the trigger
A bit probably, but likely not as much as actual trigger work.
LGS has one of these
should I get it for my bday? is it made for women?
You can tell it's a woman's gun by the hole in the side of it.
They are extremely unpleasant to shoot.
same
Go to the gym.
Should i get a new model 66 or model 686 in .357 for carrying? Pic semi related, i want a 4 inch barrel
If I was gonna buy a smith with a hole for innawaist CCW It would be pic related.
>6 rounds
>K-frame round butt, the best revolver grip
>Only 18 ounces
plz Smith bring back the Model 12
it's called the Taurus 856 Ultralite
>What if we just straight up circumsized a .44 mag?
I don't even particularly like revolvers
NGL, I don't like auto revolvers.
I wish they made something that looked like the Mateba, but like a regular DA/SA.
Also, it would be cool if they made portions of the frame out of aluminum so it would be less safe with the spicy ammo morons put in revolvers.
Cleaned the carbon and grime from the internals, lubed everything, changed the recoil and hammer springs and grips.
Feels like a completely different gun. Double action went from 14lb to about 8lb. Single action went from 7lb to 4lb.
We're shooting well soon spinny lads.
it's cold out and just looking at this thread makes my hands hurt.
S&W 627 PC
>8 TIMES
Anybody else like using SKS clips as speed strips? It actually works really well
Wasn't there some spring-loaded speed strip that would curl up into a circle when you took it out of your pocket?
Never seen it myself but it sounds kinda nifty
Yeah, I don't think it ever really made it into production, but it was really frickin cool. It would lay flat like a normal speed strip in your pocket, but when you pulled it out it would close up into a circle kind of like a moon clip. You could insert them all into the cylinder at once, then pull on the end of it and basically rip it off of the case rims.
LGS has a K6S 3 inch for $800 that I'm thinking of snagging. Anyone carry one inna waist?
Bought it. Seems like it's a real nice and versatile piece with the only decide being no hammer (apparently hammerless has better DA though?) and the I HECKIN' LOVE YONKERS, NY engraving.
just got some extra money and I'm having a hard time choosing between the redhawk and the Blackhawk...
i know it comes down to single action vs double but idk which one i want more. i already have a rough rider and that's what made me want to get a more serious revolver, and that's single action and really fun to reload even, but i feel like I'm missing out on the swinging out cylinder and being able to just push out all the shells at once...
>inb4 buy both
i don't have that kind of money
also what caliber? i was thinking 44 mag for the kick, but also the 357 mag is way more affordable and convertible to 9mm which i have more than a few spare boxes of already...
can anyone who has tried both give me their opinions?
I'm also open to opinions on other revolvers (that aren't Chiappa rhinos or Taurus)
I scooped this before this bullshit handgun freeze in leafland. Good chance it'll be my last & forever handgun. .45LC.
get some reloading shit and some casting stuff and you could hand this down to your kids for generations no matter the bans
>want a python
>1500 fricking dollars
frick colt israelites. there is no reason a revolver should cost that much, unless it was forged from gold and imlaid with emeralds from a Black person mine.
Black folk buy $300+ shoes, women buy $2000+ bags, nerds buy $500+ .pngs. some of us gun spergs spend an extra thousand bucks so the hammer pulls back super easy
What is that gun?
muh python and skinwalker killer rounds
>jhp
>skinwalker killer
It won't stop us.
ive got 12ga slugs made up with white ash too spoopgay, im not even gonna burn your corpse, youre getting thrown thru the combine and that mush is getting put in the shit-spreader. when you reconstitute your accursed form and try to come back it happens again until you submit to my plan as using your kind as a supernatural bioweapon. so save yourself the time and torment and take yourself and the others to africa and depopulate the continent
It is very sexy and elegant. I am still leaning toward a more powerful round because I make bad choices.
I live in jacket-country, so I feel like I could carry a 5.5inch 454 SA Redhawk in a chest rig. Again, I’m not a wise man.
Are charter arms 44 special classic bulldogs decent? Like the look of them and I’ve been wanting to start getting into larger call handgun shooting
>tfw Canadian
>tfw handgun ban
>tfw I may never get to own a Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan
What's it like guys? What does freedom taste like?
it's kinda cringe
why is it cringe, it's a stainless .357 revolver for killing bears and chugs
I don't think alaskans come in .357.
>Gun says .480 Ruger
>.357 revolver
Really?
460, 45LC/454 casull or 44 mag ( but the 44 mag cylinder has the scalloped cutouts instead of the monolithic solid round cylinder)
>What does freedom taste like?
Like gunpowder and gore. Try some before you let them rake you leaf.
2bh I think the feds are starting to panic, the rate of noncompliance with the gun bans is going to be off the charts
coupled with the ATF's bullshit brace ban and how few Americans are even going to follow it, there must be a collective pant-shitting at the gun grabber level right now
>nooooo you can't just bear arms!!
>ignore the constitution!
>eat the bugs!
>TFW Canadian
>TFW bought
>it's straight back
What ammunition were you using that kicks straight back?
I ask because my 460V with 200gn 2300 ft/s hornady loads slaps my hand, then rotates about 35 degreees. Pic related at the beginning of June
Freedom is pretty nice.
Also:
>Ruger Alaskan
That shit was prohib already, so you'll never get one here even if C21 gets scrapped.
So far it tastes like putting it on layaway till you get the other half of 1200 freedom bucks while searching for some 3$ a round 454 freedom pellets…. Can’t wait to fire it though.
Serious question though, in Canadian bear country do they expect you to carry a rifle all the time or what? I know you guys have a lot of weird ban stuff happening, but that can’t translate well to the middle of nowhere right? And last I checked something like 95% of Canada qualifies as the middle of nowhere…
Short answer: yes they expect you to carry a rifle (Non-restricted firearm)
Long answer: You can carry a pistol if you have a Wilderness Authorization To Carry, which is only given out to wilderness guides and hunters with a Trapper license (rare) so very few WATCs exist.
That really sucks for hiking.. I like rifles.. I like innawoods…. I do not always want to haul a rifle around while innawoods…
It's good. I literally just emailed all my representatives (federal AND state) to make it better. Who knows, maybe Florida will unfrick their laws a bit this year.
it looks uncircumcised
snub noses are so cute
ε (*´・ω・) з
Cutie alert!
I've never been a huge fan of the shrouded hammer though, but I'll let it slide, I like that gun.
I kind of agree and the shrouded hammer is sort of hard to use in a pinch. I'm keeping my eyes peeled for a model 36.
Is there anything wrong with getting a S&W 629?
if you pointed it at your tight and shot it point blank in the center
would you die?
yup, 357, that's a real man's round
yes sir, ain't nothin like it, I tell you what
Look at this thing https://www.gunbroker.com/item/966890360
>We'll just leave off the front cylinder latch, nobody will notice it is missing.
>Big bore edition
i carry only the biggest of bores
I have the Ranger II in .22mag. There's no way I would make a single-action, five-shot .22 my carry gun and it was a complete "fun gun" purchase. Still, it's definitely solidly built and a blast to shoot. No regrets on that purchase.
Which revolver would you use to kill a bear?
Pretty much anything big bore, high pressure and barrel equal to or greater than 6 inches.
It arrived! And holy shit this thing feels like a weapon compared to my Glock17. Probably because it can be used to revolver whip a Black person to death if needed.
It's a Model 13-1, so it's made in the '70s. Damage from the blueing comes from holster, mechanically the guns is fine. Paid 150 buckaroos.
Very happy with it.
Dude that's an awesome deal you got. Personally I think the heavy barrel and square butt is the best combination of the available options. Enjoy!
what models are these? im looking for s&w revolver in 357
captcha: XTTXX
Try reading the posts and filenames.
As I said, mine (
) is a Model 13-1 made between 1974 and 1979. Its a K-Frame, 6-shot 357mag with fixed iron sights and a 4" heavy barrel. S&W also made 3" ones with a round butt for the FBI. There are also nickel finished ones, which are basically the same but are the model sixty-something.
How would you guys typically conceal carry a full sized revolver if you had to?(4-5 inch barrel). I have only ever carry a car in the appendix position but what are some other good concealed carry positions? My friend told me to consider a shoulder holster but I hear those can be cumbersome and you have to wear a open jacket so you can easily reach in. Right now I carry a .357 with a 2.5 inch barrel in the appendix position. I'd prefer to carry my N-Frame 5 inch barrel .357 but the thing in appendix position is uncomfortable when sitting.
What are your thoughts on moonclips vs speed loaders? I have a gun that can take moon clips or just put bullets in the charge holes like normal. I tried carrying around the moon clips with bullets on them in my pocket and it just feels a bit weird. Feels like I might accidentally bend one if I sit down odd on it too.
speed loaders make more sense to me personally
I like moon clips because you would probably have to fiddle less if under stress or something. But carrying them around in the pocket just feels more cumbersome.
Where do speed strips fit in with all this? Speed strips are simple to keep in the pocket but reload speed with speed strips seems horrific. Maybe I haven't practiced enough.
I know they exist but I've never actually seen anyone use them
How about half-moon clips? Would sit flatter in the pocket.
Ah interesting, I didn't even realize half moon clips were a thing.
I thought they were, but if not you could probably just cut regular moonclips in half.
I've always been interested in firing rimless cartridges in a revolver, but it sounds like moonclips are almost universally reviled. After searching for a few years, I recently came across a Charter Arms Pitbull chambered for .45ACP that I'm super excited to shoot. It's got some sort of internal mechanism for holding rimless cartridges in place, so no need for moonclips.
They've got them in a few other calibers, too, but I've never had an interest in .40, the 9mm had mixed reviews (plus, I've got enough 9mm semis, already), and I don't see much use in the .380 when there are so many concealment. 38spl and .357 options available.
Went shooting for the first time in a while today. Somehow I was way more accurate with a j frame airweight than with a glock 19 or p365xl even though it beat the shit out of my hand in 50 rounds and has a way heavier trigger. Why might this be?
Because glock triggers are notoriously shit by default, which makes training with them obligatory. A heavier gun with a better trigger mitigates bad technique, at least that's my observation. When switching from a glock to another gun I keep the focus on persistent grip and trigger pull, like I'd do with a glock.
Dunno about the 365 tho
I want a 32 snub. Does anyone have experience with charter arms? This one looks cute.
You’ll have a lot of issues with charter arms
Just curious, but why 32?
circumcised revolver
You guys had better be wearing bandoliers when you're carrying these.
What holster for a 4" k-frame 357mag revolver should i get?
I've been using a Garret Holsters silent thunder for my model 19
Is there a wrong choice for 357?
What might they be?
I once saw a ruger with the most disgustingly wide cylinder gap as a child, and was so put off I havent looked at revolvers since.