>revolutionizes horse warfare

>revolutionizes horse warfare
What did it do exactly?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It allowed you to put your foot in the thingy

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    now you don't fall off when doing 360° no scope bow and lance shots

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    gave the rider leverage and gave them a greater range of motion

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    try riding a horse without stirrups or a saddle. If you can do that, now grab a pole and try to push a friend around with it. Try to put your weight into ANY task without a point of leverage anchoring you to the horse (or harness attached to the horse, in this case.)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      WTF horsemen did before it was invented? How were they even riding a horse?

      >What did it do exactly?
      Created a domino effect of depravity that led us to skitzo-tier info warfare on a Mongolian basket weaving image board dedicated to weapons.

      Cлyжy coвeтcкoмy coюзy!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >How were they even riding a horse?
        by clamping onto the horse with their legs. riders had arched leg bones as a result.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They didn't fight on horseback.
        They used chariots.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        they rode to the battle field and hopped off.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They relied on their saddles having to stay on the horse. Stirrups are cool but they have been overblow by pseuds, and this thread is full of pseuds

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Never ridden a horse.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Are you moronic, you think stirrups stopped the impact of a Lance from throwing a rider. Charging cav existed for a thousand plus years before the stirrup. Stirrups allowed better control and allowed you o stand in the saddle helping horse archers. But let's not forget the parthian shot existed long before stirrups as well. They are a majorly overrated invention. Cavalry had been dominant on and off for periods before the stirrup.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        midwit

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >X existed in the hands of small number of top tier professionals
        >therefore Y which vastly improves X and enables more regular joes to learn X is "overrated"
        Black person IQ

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Go back to physics 101

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Pre-medieval cavalry was rarely shock cavalry,, and usually acted as skirmishers. The first real shock cavalry were cataphracts who generally used lances two handed as spears, rather than couched lances to deliver the weight of the horse to a target.
        Not to mention ancient horses weren't large enough to be shock cavalry horses until larger breeds were selectively bred.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >What did it do exactly?
    Created a domino effect of depravity that led us to skitzo-tier info warfare on a Mongolian basket weaving image board dedicated to weapons.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Anon... Is that graph real?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      how are we double Canada wtf man

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because our thing is dogs, horsefricker.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Leafs would rather eat the horse than eat them out.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Anon... Is that graph real?

      HOLY FRICK! It is real.

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Frick I am glad the US is third lowest the fact Canada crushes us though is shameful.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The canadian bronies use vpns to bump our numbers up

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >There's Tanzanian bronies

        Just fricking nuke the planet already.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I would think Colombia would rank higher what with all the donkey fricking.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Look up My Little Donkey numbers

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      thread status: derailed

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Slavic horse status: railed

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Witnessed, and beastialitypilled

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Czeched!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ria ria hungária! Thak that upper hungary!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i didn't know barney had russian and canadian descent.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I've said it before, I'll say it again: all this graph shows is which countries are full of idiots that would try to search for MLP porn on pornhub of all places, instead of using the much better dedicated sites.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Say it all you want, but post metrics to back your claim if you want someone to believe it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >all this graph shows is which countries are full of idiots that would try to search for MLP porn on pornhub of all places
        But you're assuming the consequence here. What's to say the concentration of searches on sites other than pornhub in Slavic nations isn't stronger? Not enough data exists to support your statement.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's fricking funny

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw the only scandi country not on the list

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Canada is pure

      discarded immediately as obvious fiction

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Im going to religiously spam this in reply to every vatnik poster i see. Thank you for this wonderous gift anon.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I thought Columbia would be higher with their penchant for fricking literal ass

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Putin started the war to capture all ukrainian pony artists

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It revolutionized your moms sex dungeon

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Allowed riders to spend less time and effort staying on the horse and more time and effort killing people from atop said horse, thus improving manifold the efficiency and effectiveness of cavalry

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this, but also it allows the rider to lean into attacks.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Lean into sabre strokes, carry more armour and kit, pick up riding faster, have more riders in the population than just "people good with horses", ride longer on horseback, etc etc

        It just adds up

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've read that riders had to hold lances in two hands before the invention of stirrups. That's counter intuitive. Aren't stirrups freeing the hands as you can hold on to horse with your legs and not the other way around?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Think about staying balanced without being able to use your feet.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Have you ever ridden a horse?
    If you ever had, your question would be answered. Everything is more difficult without stirrups. Getting on, staying on, shifting your body position, not getting tired, leaning into your attacks or dodging other attacks, jumping the horse.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking the horse...?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        quintessentially /k/

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You know how in the context of a rifle you talk about "points of contact"? similar story.

    >saddle
    one point of contact, you can really only throw things or run people over.
    >saddle that ties under the horse
    Now you can actually hold yourself down by grabbing the saddle, and this effectively lets you use a lance without just flying off the back of the horse.
    Being able to use reigns with the same hand is a big part of this.
    >stirups
    this allows you to shift your weight backwards and forwards on the horse
    You can now fire arrows backwards, you can swing a heavy weapon like a cavalry sabre, you can use a lance which is far longer than an infantry spear.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i thought mongolian invasions were without stirrups. How did they do it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Minmaxed training and doctrine research, and got all the cavalry perks

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    As a person who rode horses quite a bit, it always boggles my mind it took such a long fricking time to come up with the stirrup. Imagine buttholes just plopped on the horse holding on with they knees and fighting like that, lmao. And all through the classical period thats just what they did and why cavalry didn't really have the impact it later did.

    Why the frick didn't someone figure it out earlier? The technology was there practically ever since someone first sat on a horse.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Why the frick didn't someone figure it out earlier? The technology was there
      The assault rifle could have been made in time for WW1 if someone had gotten the idea too. Just because it is possible does not mean it'll happen.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We had access to all of the components of smokeless powder at a commercial scale in the 1700s, around the same time metalworking lathes first starting being produced commercially, we could've made assault rifles in time for the Civil War.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >we could've made assault rifles in time for the Civil War.
          Reminds me of this video i got linked on a re-enactment forum https://youtu.be/8WY7y1tSjQc

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      "when the solution is found, it is often simple"
      I see it happen all the time even today, anon. "Obvious" solutions are never as obvious as they appear to be in hindsight.

      Also, we 20th century Western Bloc humans are accustomed to the rapid increase in information technology and relative peace we've enjoyed in this period, and it is unthinkable to us that centuries can pass with comparably glacial pace of technological development. But it really *was* that way back then.

      Perhaps someone did come up with the stirrup before the earliest example we know of, perhaps many people all over the world did in fact invent the stirrup-equivalent. However the invention just did not survive the wars or famine or natural disasters of the period.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    not sure on warfare proper but it did allow for a more comfortable position for long sprints

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Made it easier to rapidly mount and dismount, made it easier to stand in the saddle and made it easier to lean to one side without falling.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Before the stirrup was discovered I wonder how many nameless badass ancient warriors accidentally fell off their horses and crippled themselves or even died.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Go ride a horse, you'll know practically instantly.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have researched Persian warfare for a while, from around 500 BC to 1000 AD, and the stirrup significantly reduced the amount of training required to use Heavy weapons like lances and maces without having to cling to the horse for dear life with their knees. Thanks to the stirrup, less training was required to effectively use weapons, which in theory meant more fieldable cavalry.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Calvary went from stabbing with spears with around 60psi pentrative force to charging with couched lances delivering 3,000psi.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Charge with lances.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It let you hold on with your feet AND knees rather than knees alone. This kept the rider in the saddle letting them hit harder without falling off.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >What did it do exactly?
    Try to draw a 60-pounfd bow with no stirrups. You'll figure it out.
    Basically it lets you stand slightly, flex your knees, and use them as shock absorbers for a steadier shot at the canter; you can also use your back and legs properly to draw the bow instead of tearing your shoulders to frick on a half-poundage weapon.

    The lances thing came later. Before stirrups, spear-armed cavalry sucked and was mostly guys with javelins and a backup sword. Without the stirrup there's not much hitting power difference between an archer and a jackass with a javelin. After? the archer pulls way ahead.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >crossbow
    >trebuchet
    >thumb ring
    >stirrups
    >rocket artillery
    >handcannon
    >landmines
    Have you thanked China today?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Crossbow
      A Stone Age technology that existed before anything that even the most Sino-fellatory source would call "China", while the first examples found are from a bog in Europe. Possible crossbow nuts go as far back as the Mesolithic.

      >Trebuchet
      Chinese didn't use the critical improvement, a counterweight and trip lever (as opposed to just having a hundred guys yanking on a rope) for centuries.

      >thumbring
      Not used in the Proto-Indo-European cultures because we had a different draw style and primarily used self-bows. Current evidence suggests it propagated out of Central Asia, and only showed up in China when they copied it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Stone Age technology
        The Chinese were the ones to take the crossbow and make it semi-auto

        >Chinese
        probably one of the least interesting siege engine invented by the Chinese. take this switchblade siege ladder, for example. folds down for convenient under-castle storage when not is use

        >only showed up in China when they copied it
        thank you for pointing out the superiority of Chinese culture was so compelling that they assimilated the Mongols, who conquered the rest of the world, so completely that most people wouldn't even think the Mongols were part of the Yuan Dynasty until you told them

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >they assimilated the Mongols
          Hahahahahahahahahaha
          The Han have been everyone's b***h for centuries. Don't make us come get you all addicted again.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >yet didn't innovate using any of these weapons, and the Europeans innovated warfare for the rest of the world.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    rly jan jan?

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Made it easier for people to stay on the horse while doing other shit.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wtf
    read first sentence again

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >following hundreds of pony artists
    >Ukraine war happens
    >half of them say they cant post because they need to evacuate or won't be able to post due to the occupation
    >the other half say they cant take commissions from americans because payment processors are down

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    poor animals, i would not want to let me carry around on the back of an animal. They are meant to be free.
    Walk with your own feet and accept the limitations of your human body.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Allows riders to brace themselves to put greater force behind their attacks, specifically with lances but also in melee. The lance rest further revolutionised the amount of kinetic energy a lance could deliver to disgusting levels.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Better stability for the rider and the ability to put more leverage into a blow. Imagine the difference between hitting something while sitting in a chair vs standing up. It wasn't absolutely necessary for shock cavalry - high cantle saddles allowed that and came first, but the combination of saddle and stirrup made it more effective

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