Replacing the Krag was bullshit.

Replacing the Krag was bullshit. There was a two-lug Krag in the 1890s that was offered to both America and Norway, but "muh cost" was the factor that killed it. So naturally the army was happy to spend much more money designing an entirely new rifle instead of just improving the design they already had.
Give it a second lug, up the powder load, and drop the bullet weight to 160 grains, and it'll perform just as well as any Mauser.
>muh outdated rimmed ammo
The .30-40 was designed from the beginning with both rimmed and rimless versions. No excuse.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Too complex, the simpler mauser won out only to be benched for a war 15 years later then dusted off for the next big war to be benched again by the Garand.
    The "standardization" era was some shit but when you have money it doesn't really mean much.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, just ditch the retarded cutoff. That's a simplification there.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The internals alone were some shit compared to the mauser so everyone agreed less moving parts = more reliable.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm still of the opinion that simplifying the Krag would've been much cheaper.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            pre ww1 army wasnt big enough for that to matter

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but when you have money it doesn't really mean much
      The pre-'40 military barely had a budget. They pinched so many pennies that their fingeprints were Lincoln heads. Why do you think the Mk.14 whorepedo wasn't tested?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >to be benched again by the Garand
      the m1903 springfield was more common than the Garand tho

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just for Marines in the Pacific in 1942. Army had Garands the whole time, and Marines got Garands after Guadalcanal.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        on guadalcanal maybe

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >3 million m1903s built
        >5.5 million Garands
        Wut?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based, however pissing off the krauts by just stealing their rifle was really funny. Still think the Eddystone was better than both tho.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny how every american service rifle has been a stolen design, but they somehow make it worse, in the case of the krag it's the weak round and weak action with a single locking lug.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The majority of American service rifles are indigenous to Burgerland.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        various muskets were copies of bong designs
        trapdoor was american
        krag was norwegian
        1903 was german
        garand was designed by a canadian
        m16 is american but now made by wafflemorons

        not a great record

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >copy the mauser bolt & feed system
          >"WHOLE RIFLE IS GERMAN"
          >garand was designed by a quebecois engineer who lived in America since 1899
          >"STILL CANADIAN"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            John Garand was 3 years old when his family moved to the US.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >numerous Springfield muskets/rifles
          >Hall rifle
          >Sharps rifles and carbines
          >Trapdoor
          >Spencer and God alone knows how many different Civil War carbines
          >various levergat musket and carbine models used by Navy and Militias
          >first Lee rifles
          >Lee straightpull
          >Garand
          >M1 Carbine
          >M1A
          >M14
          >Armalites
          Yeah, Burgerland domestically designs our own stuff most of the time.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shoot, I forgot the Rollingblock.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lee was a leaf too

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Scottish. Important thing is that the Bongs can't claim him.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Lee is just as much of a Scot as Garand is a leaf
                They can choose only one

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No coinidence that the most talented gunsmiths are born or bred in America.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or immigrate here. Forgot to add that.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No coinidence that the most talented gunsmiths are born or bred in America.
                >Or immigrate here
                On that note, God, I wish Korobov was able to come here. We were robbed of the better Kel-Tec that would've run on cocaine made of Cthulhu's dandruff because the fucking Soviets kept him locked up at Tula. That's why none of his designs entered production, Russia (and Euros in general) can't innovate weapons like we do. Anyone among them who can get's squashed down and forced to file paperwork instead of realizing their dreams.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If only someone were to replicate that, then we'd have a bullpup with adjustable stock and short LOP, as well as forward eject.

                Literally most of the remaining problems with bullpups would vanish in an instant.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >M1
      >stolen
      >M14
      >stolen
      >M16
      >stolen
      >M4
      >stolen
      moron what.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        John Garand was French Canadian.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      amerimutts in general are bad at making rifles. The M14 and its derivatives are a hilarious shit show. The M60 is comical in how much of an abomination it is. The AR-15 design only stuck around for "muh modularity" when superior designs like the AUG eclipse it in literally every way. And don't get me started on handguns. SOCOM is still running fudd 1911s for fuck's sake.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tell me, which glorious rifles did your nation invent?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The AUG (the greatest assault rifle ever made) along with the Glock (the greatest pistol ever made) or the SSG 08 (the greatest sniper rifle ever made).

          I also still have my foreskin. Seethe + dilate

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >brings up dicks unprompted
            I don't think you're as happy as you're pretending to be, closeted homo

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AUG uses modified AR-18 system. Glock uses modified Browning tilting barrel. No burgerland, no Glock or AUG.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >stinky brown muttoid taking credit for based aryan guns
              Literally the equivalent of chinks taking credit for all firearms ever invented because they discovered gun powder.

              Maybe if muttoids made serviceable designs from the start actual white people wouldn't have to improve upon them to make them great?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Guranteed your country uses M2 and some variation of Armalite. Cope and Seethe, Yuropoor.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sydney and her magnificent Sweenies.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shut the fuck up you irrelevant gay.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post your guns that you totally own, curry moron

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Copies an American design
            >Makes it out of injection-molded plastic.
            Gaston Glock was Chinese = confirmed.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Stop coping. Glocks are better than any pistol amerimutts have ever made. They are also better than any embarrassing clone made from it. Gaston Glock is an Aryan genius and has more foreskin than the entirety of muttshartica combined.

              >M60
              >rifle

              Anything with a rifled barrel shooting a rifle cartridge is, by definition, a rifle, you fucking lobotomite.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're boring

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >better than any pistol amerimutts have made
                moron any Smith and Wesson even the shitty ones like the Shitma and M&P blow glocks out of the water, then Italians have had you beat for almost a century, and dare I say even fucking SIG makes a better gun than glock.
                Keep coping nazi.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All of those are considerably worse than Glocks. And you just called him a nazi which is chud for conceding defeat.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nazi = white moron
                Normal people (non-losers) don't have authoritarian power fantasies and pretend Hitler is their daddy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. The Anglo-Saxons are the only Germanics who still adhere to the ancient Germanic Common Law. All the other Germanics succumbed to Roman style laws, surrendering to the filthy Walhaz. Any Nordics or Germanics who immigrated to the Anglosphere returned to their tradition.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >superior designs like the AUG eclipse it in literally every way
        Holy shit europoors are fucking deluded

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except being more modular, having a better trigger, and being half the price. Plus, the aug isn't even ambi unless you buy a different bolt, an embarrassing design choice for any bullpup. The AUG isn't even in the top 5 best alternatives to the AR.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seething muttmoron.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        While that’s true, the Mauser system is retardedly simple and would probably be more robust and serviceable in the field

        Noguns E*ropoor cope. Please do tell how superior the AUG is to the AR-15.
        Also, our bullpups are better than yours.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          List of American bullpup rifles of note:
          >

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >List of bullpup rifles of note:
            >
            FTFY

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The AUG, FAMAS and SA80 series have seen quite a bit of action the world over, so even if you don't count any others, you should count those. Even if the original L85 was shit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                literally who?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >M60
        >rifle

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >americans make bad rifles
        >thinks the aug is a good rifle
        when will euromutts learn?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what american rifles have you actually used?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        M60 was a MG42 knock off.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's funny how every american service rifle
      handguns too

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no 1851
        Opinion discarded.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That gif's fucking hilarious, where's it from?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            RRR a bollywood movie on netflic. It's pretty funny but at 3 hours it's its own movie and sequel

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I just watched it and it was dogshit, other than the first 15 minutes.

              You must be a real gay to shill for a movie that gay on a fucking mongolian basket weaving forum.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                RRR is fucking over the top stupid kino. The animals in the garden party scene were fucking incredible.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t. Panjeet
                Sorry but Bollywood is dogshit and so is the rest of India lmao

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't like RRR
                You have no soul

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you retarded? Samuel Colt invented the revolver in 1836.

        The rest of the world has been copying America ever since.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Well, what glorious rifles did your nation invent? It's just a question.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DESIGNATED SHITTING RIFLE

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Look under the sling. Is that poo? Lmao

          There is more poo in that image than you think.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, there's a bunch smeared on the pistol grip and handguard

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >India "invents" an AK
        Pic related

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Look under the sling. Is that poo? Lmao

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I can smell the curry soaked hands that typed this

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Norway used the Krag from 1894, and the last of them were still Home Guard issue in the early 1960s. During ww2 occupation the Germans forced the factories in Norway to keep manufacturing it for Wehrmacht second line units.

    It is a good, solid weapon. I have one. The mechanism is smooth and reliable. But the fact is, compared to a k98 Mauser there are issues. The smaller 6.5x55 caliber is one thing but more serious is that you have to hand feed it one and one bullet, whereas you can shove in an entire clip with the Mauser. This means that all your ammo must be in loose rounds. Manufacturewise the Mauser requires fewer parts and fewer manufacture steps, making it cheaper and faster to make. Also it takes less training. Finally, it is more difficult to mount a scope on a standard Krag than on a standard k98.

    >t. Norwegian

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/8/8e/Soldier_DominationMedic05.wav

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they want stripper clip, retard

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've rebuilt both a 96 Krag and an 03 Springfield from stripped receivers, and I regularly compete with both at CMP vintage rifle matches. I also own an 89 Danish Krag with a 2 lug bolt, if that matters at all.
    First, if you look at the complexity of the US Krag receiver versus the Springfield, you will notice that it is massively more complicated to manufacture
    Second, stripper clip loading on the Springfield is a huge improvement over the dump loading of the Krag, and the rimmed ammo and vertical ejection only add insult to injury. I can tell you from my competition experience that my scores are on average 10 points higher with the Springfield primarily due to the lack of drama during the rapid-fire stages, which include a mandatory reload on the clock.
    I love the Krag and enjoy competing with it, but the 03 is a dramatic improvement in a variety of significant ways, and no amount of realistic improvements to it would bring it up to the 03's level or down to the 03's manufacturing cost.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Rifles which use a copy or derivative of the AR-18 gas system include: German HK G36, HK416, FN F2000, FN-SCAR, Steyr AUG, CZ 805 BREN, Chinese QBZ-95, Daewoo K1, HOWA Type 89, SAR-88, T-91 and British SA80 family of weapon systems.[7][39][6][4][5]

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It would appear that my superiority has led to some controversy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That rifle is beautiful. I wish it was more common.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fuck I thought the yuropoor coper had left us.

    Welcome back noguns!

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Krags make my pp hard.
    Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

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