>releases toxins into your drinking water
>gets destroyed by light bulbs and sunlight
>rodents can and will chew right through it
>reduces your water quality and taste
Don't fall for the pex meme.
>releases toxins into your drinking water. >gets destroyed by light bulbs and sunlight
We all see you're a lonely shizophrenic who posts the same thread everyday. But this is PrepHole, I think you would be better at another board with other shizophrenics who've got nothing to do like /b/.
>buys good quality pex
>No metal taste
>No corrosion
>25m sections with no joints
>No plumbers needed
>Buried under concrete
You forgot:
>installation looks like shit a child would do 100% of the time
why the frick do I care what it looks like when its behind a wall moron as long as its properly secured so it can't flail around in the wall
>why the frick do I care what it looks like when its behind a wall
It's advised to not put any type of pex connection behind a wall, but in new construction it's easy enough to run continuous lines to each destination. They make a cool thing called a manifold that eliminates the need for shutoffs at any faucet or toilet or whatever.
clearly you are a israeli pex shill and i will not fall for your tricks
also i will be making this same thread everyday until the end of time because the janitors here don't care about the quality of the board
this would give every plumber here a heart attack.
cold and hot not separated or insulated -> cold will become warm and a breeding ground
Future.
Future supply as fricking long dead end.
Water system is a star topology with one line to every outlet. >if you don't use front outdoor tap because you hate watering the pipe stagnates forever.
pic is how your supposed to install a faucet, even if the utility sink is never used the venturi fitting pulls water through the line to it.
>turn on hot water faucet upstairs to wash hands
>wait 45 minutes for it to reach you as it snakes through 8 miles of copper pipe
>is room temp by the time it gets to you
by code here hot water or cold water (ground cold) has to come out of a faucet after 3 litres.
ring system if for seldom used stuff like a utility sink. a kitchen will be piped in series as well as a bathroom.
for bonus points you put the sink in last so even if the ice maker never gets used its pipes always see fresh water.
pipes close together inside a sealed cavity made from wood, code demands insulation.
>by code here hot water or cold water (ground cold) has to come out of a faucet after 3 litres.
what does this mean, when it's gone through enough pipe to hold 3 liters of water? first of all i highly doubt a plumber is going to be able to do that kind of math lol and second of all that doesn't sound like a lot (i'm also not going to bother trying to do the math lmao)
It's about 65' of 1/2" nominal copper.
that's more than i thought but still pretty gay.
>that's more than i thought
I was surprised after I calculated it.
Yeah that's a lot more than I thought it'd be, thanks anons for the fun fact!
>by code here hot water or cold water (ground cold) has to come out of a faucet after 3 litres.
Why the frick is that in the code? Building codes should be about safety, not convenience. It's not the government's problem if it takes ages for your sink to run warm cause you suck at plumbing
The literally have divorced karens working at the city thinking this shit up.
Yes, I’ve had inspectors claim things weren’t “to code” because they were *better* than code. They didn’t understand that codes are a *minimum* standard for safety. No also a maximum.
Even conceptually, they don’t understand their jobs.
>have kitchen faucet, dish washer, ice maker, bathroom sink, shower, and washing machine all on one line
>each with a venturi fittings for "stagnant water"
>water pressure drops to near zero because of the multiple flow constrictions
>the stagnate water meme
helps if your drinking water isn't filled with bacteria in the first place
>cold and hot not separated or insulated
They're separated. See that row of clips the pipe runs through? All separated. PEX doesn't need to be insulated unless it runs through an unconditioned space, the same as copper. No one insulates copper water lines in their house either. PEX doesn't conduct heat as quickly because it's plastic, so the pipes retain their temp better. Unlike copper, which transfers heat easily.
>the pipe stagnates forever
The same thing happens with copper lines when they aren't used. Neither one is going to spontaneously start growing legionella.
ring lines for water are absolutely moronic
That's not a ring line. You'll see the same thing when adding a radiator to a heating system. The water isn't forced to go through each radiator before the next. Each radiator is tapped twice into the same pipe and some the heated water passes through the radiator and some of it passes by the radiator.
When that sink is off, the same thing happens. Water keeps circulating through the pipes leading right up to the valve as well as the main pipe. Open the valve and water comes out of the faucet because it's connected to a high pressure feed.
>muh water stagnation
I can't believe anon lives in a third world country that doesn't disinfect their water.
well we want our water to be drinkable and not taste like chlorine pool water.
the water plant only adds so much chlorine necessary to keep the water save during transport.
If the water doesn't leave the pipe, where does the chlorine go?
>If the water doesn't leave the pipe, where does the chlorine go?
Diffuses out of the water into the pipe. Why do you think copper has a finite life in municipal water systems?
it disinfects and gets consumed while doing so.
>It's advised to not put any type of pex connection behind a wall
No it isn't. You can seal PEX in a wall just like any other piping system. Where else would you run water pipes?
Press is way easier. Clamp jaw on, pull trigger. Easy.
3/10 nice try
Yes the water at your taps now is perfectly safe and chemical-free so don't ruin it by using PEX.
PEX doesn't recycle.
this world recycles everything anon, in time.
As I understood it, the pipe can be behind the wall, but connections shouldn't be unless say it's to a shower mixer or something else sticking out of the wall. Don't put a 90 or T in the wall
your take on it is just fricking moronic. The code is clear about this; these types of "joints" are absolutely allowed to be located in inaccessible spaces like wall cavities.
Really though, one of the big advantages of pex is how its flexibility allows you to avoid putting 90's in most places and the 'home-run' system tends to greatly reduce the usage of tee fittings.
That would suck balls if something happened at the point of use or you just wanted to drain the toilet for cleaning it and you had to go all the way to the basement to fidddle with the valves. It would double suck if you had a shared living structure where you might not yourself always have easy access to your own valves.
looks like shit a child would do 100% of the time
and yet it's still better workmanship than what a Hispanic would do.
It's all thr same chinesium coper
>b-b-but muh source!?
Do your own research reddit. Not my fault you took the easy way out without looking it up for yourself. Hope your bra looks good on you stleast.
So you have no source?
Funny how nobody ever has sources for their grand anti PEX claims.
Telling people to go run on a wild goose chase is just a deflection, hoping people stop pointing out you being disingenuous
It's because PEX is so new that there hasn't been nearly enough time to study long term effects of its use.
Nobody knows if it's safe, and nobody knows if it's not. People just shouldn't take the risk until they know for certain.
People that installed pex are just like the people that took the vaccine before understanding the risk of any long term effects.
Pex has been used since the 1960's and there have been no meaningful (or any?) long term effects seen so far. If ~60 years isn't long enough to see the effects, then odds are we will never have long enough to study ANY new technology.
You suggest that there just isn't enough evidence that PEX is safe because mysterious side effects that there is no evidence of COULD come become obvious later. There's no reason to expect that they would.
In summary, you're a fricking moron and you can't make a single argument that has any meaning. Your complaints are inane, and you have autism.
you posted this from a device that emits electromagnetic radiation which you regularly and gladly hold inches from your face.
Why not just use stainless pipe? It's basically chemically inert and will last forever. It's come down in price so much here that new houses don't even bother with anything else anymore.
For me it was the continuous sections. I like my plumbing like I like my copper cables. I can run a 25m continuous section from manifold to manifold inside a larger pipe without having to worry about it tearing as my floors expand and contract. I made all my slabs floating, isolating them from the walls. This worked well to isolate vibrations from washing machines and other machines.
I get that stainless is great if you're not embedding your pipes in concrete. I'd have considered it, had it been available locally. Stainless drains were 10x the price of HDPE solutions.
Leaching is negligible for room temp water,
PEX isn't supposed to be installed in direct sunlight (although variants of it are and it'll be fine if enclosed in a conduit or insulation as it should anyway)
I don't have rodents where I live.
Water quality and taste are unaffected.
There's a reason PEX is so popular.
See for example.
The best part is that it's so cheap that you can rip out all the 50 year old copper with lead solder pipes or whatever the frick you find into your home and put in a new, clean, reliable installation for next to nothing. You can literally DIY. Imagine what a pain in the ass it would be to do the same with copper, or may allah forgive me for saying this word, threaded steel pipes (the ones you need to cut down & cut threads into).
Copper is fricking easy as hell to work with but yeah if you need to update something super old might as well go pex where you can.
he just keeps making these threads
he's not wrong, pex is trash that no decent plumber would use
I have no issues with pex, but frick pro press.
>I have no issues with pex, but frick pro press.
Is pro press harder than crimping pex? I'm not very strong, and occasionally I find it nearly impossible to crimp pex when the position is difficult.
>I'm not very strong
dyel
>has no source, trust me bra
>he doesn't plan things out
>he lives in a house with holes
>has no source
OP, can you show me on this picture where the PEX touched you in a bad way?
Right here, where the pex released estrogens and 15 other different toxins into my blood
It'll take you a single Google search to figure out. But I wouldn't expect a pextard to be very intelligent. Not only that but it's just common sense. If something seems to good to be true it's because it is. Pextards are the product themselves, poisoning themselves the same as vaxxies or goyslop addicts. Sad.
Because he's lazy. Pex installers are all slovenly.
>gets told he is deflecting
>starts bringing up /misc/ buzzwords and topics to try and further deflect
kek
>It'll take you a single Google search to figure out.
It would take you a single copy and paste, with the sources you are citing, if they existed
Its just common sense.
But they dont exist.
If they did, common sense would have dictated putting said citations in the actual OP.
Tell yourself whatever you want pex troon. I had pex in my house and it came to me in a dream that it was hurting my health. The next day I ripped out all my pex and replaced it with copper. I've never looked or felt better and the people in my town can tell that about me. You can enjoy your man boobs and mood swings if you so desire
>Tell yourself whatever you want pex troon.
Im telling myself I want less buzzwords and deflections, and more sources from you anon.
>Source: My dream
>pex released estrogens
Cool.
Which plumbing should I upgrade to so I can also get progesterone and bicalutamide?
The burden of proof in debate is on the person making an assertio.
Onus Probandi you heathen turd.
>have low T
>"must be the pex tubing in my house"
lmao
>pic
What am I looking at here?
There's estrogen in the water supply already from women taking birth control, just get a reverse osmosis filter
Pex schizos are funny to me because they don't realize their water has already been through tens of miles of plastic tubing before it gets to their house.
>but I filter my water
show me your plastic water filter, gay.
I feel sorry for Schizos honestly.
I have a few in my family, and they just search and search and search but never find what they are looking for.
There is never a real answer.
Its just falling further into a rabbit hole with no end in site.
Before you know it they are drinking their own urine, peddling expensive essential oils, using banned medical devices like a Rife machine, and paying 10k to have mettaliic fillings pulled out of their mouth and replacing them (all 4 things a relative has done, at this point the original (made up btw) self diagnoses has gotten so watered down we dont know what she thinks is wrong with her whole family)
I could easily see them ripping pex out of their house if it caught their attention somehow.
I think he's referring to xenoestrogens.
>not having well water
your well is also plumbed in with plastic/rubber tubing, fyi.
Well technically anyone using carbon filtration is good down to .5 micron which would filter plastics out for the most part.
GALVANIZED CHADS RISE UP
Actually, you can beat people really well with galv pipe.
standing back and standing by
why is it that whenever i see anybody talking about pex or showing pictures of pex, it's always red and blue
but the pex in my house is all the same color
you can get colored pex to make it easier to identify hot and cold water, but it's just color and doesn't do anything. you can get white pex too.
The dye in blue PEX energizes the yin organs of the body whereas the red PEX energizes the yang ones. For this, reason you should use the red PEX for the cold water line to your shower so that taking cold showers will have an amplified effect on raising testosterone levels.
Careful using the white PEX for this, as the white tends to elevate which chakras are open, and if you have a son once he learns to fap in the shower he'll start spending an inordinate amount of time wanking in there at a time in his life when he's likely to be better able to start opening his third eye and above during moments of extracy.
this thread
>releases toxins into our board
>gets destroyed by facts and truth
>plumbers can and will chew right through it
>reduces board quality and content
Reported as spam.
My dad says you have to use teflon tape in pex crimped connections to avoid eventual leaking. Has anyone tried that?
>there are people in this thread who will shill for plastic pipes in their own home plumbing while whole world is drowning in microplastics
>No only that, their are so indoctrinated that unless you provide heaps of studies which they won't even read they refuse to believe it
Did some virus take over brains ?
plastic is a renewable resource. we can make more plastic, we can't make more copper. try thinking about the environment for once.
>plastic is a renewable resource. we can make more plastic, we can't make more copper
Excuse me, we wtf. How are you going to make more plastic when oil runs out ?
>plastic is a renewable resource. we can make more plastic, we can't make more copper
>he bought into the peak oil meme
Farquadanon's comment was about the term "renewable."
You are aware of what "renewable" means? Peat moss isn't renewable either, and we're unlikely to run out of that for a while yet.
Petroleum products do not come from renewable resources. The appropriate place to debate this is a second grade science classroom.
We can talk about the more interesting downstream effects of using non-renewable resources and the economies that revolve around them. However, you need to first understand what those words mean.
let me guess, you think oil comes from dinosaurs lmao
"The Experts" don't even know where Oil comes from, how its formed, etc etc etc. The reason its called Fossil Fuels is because Rockefeller wanted it listed as an organic substance at some international convention for some moronic reason I cant remember why. Literally all they know is that its a hydrocarbon.
>"The Experts" don't even know where Oil comes from, how its formed, etc etc etc. The reason its called Fossil Fuels is because Rockefeller wanted it
source: my ass
https://www.livescience.com/3400-chemistry-life-oil.html
>Oil, the lifeblood of U.S. transportation today, is thought to start with the remnants of tiny organisms that lived millions of years ago, but the exact chemical transformation is somewhat mysterious.
>It's rather remarkable that we are so dependent on oil, and yet we really don't understand how it is made
https://www.livescience.com/9404-mysterious-origin-supply-oil.html
>scientists still don't know for sure where oil comes from, how long it took to make, or how much there is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin
>The abiogenic petroleum origin proposes that most of earth's petroleum and natural gas deposits were formed inorganically.
>The presence of methane on Saturn's moon Titan and in the atmospheres of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune is cited as evidence of the formation of hydrocarbons without biological intermediate forms
>Drill samples from the surface of Mars taken in 2015 by the Curiosity rover's Mars Science Laboratory have found organic molecules of benzene and propane in 3 billion year old rock samples
Just grow more pete to get more pete moss. Don't like the Orwells of our day make you believe that up is down, black is white, or that the sun is renewable.
Oil doesnt run out moron, its a continuously renewable resource that comes from the core of the Earth. You didn't actually believe it was rotting dinosaurs did you?
most plastic products can't be recycled.
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toxins into your drinking water
Copper can leach directly into your water too. Galvanized pipes can leach heavy metals into your water.
All piping types carry some risk.
>>gets destroyed by light bulbs and sunlight
PEX is UV resistant. Light bulbs won't do shit to it. Direct sunlight can break any plastic down over time, but you're not supposed to install it where it would be exposed to sunlight anyway.
can and will chew right through it
Fun fact: rats can chew through copper, iron, and platinum as well. They never advertised PEX as rat-proof. Try not having a dirty house full of rodents.
your water quality and taste
PEX can affect taste, sure. So can copper. The small amount of things PEX may leach into water are well below levels considered toxic.
If you drink tap water then you're obviously OK with chemicals being in it. In addition to the yummy mind control fluoride there's tons of chlorine from the treatment plant, lead and rust from the ancient pipes that supply water to your town, heavy metals, microplastics, VOCs and trace pharmaceuticals.
I’ve had aquapex for 20 years now… no issues.
Even exposed pex in a very sunny bathroom where all the other plastic turned yellow.
It’s also survived freezing a few times.
One thing I will say is that it is very hard to buy any of it yourself, at least the aquapex brand… it has the expanding plastic rings… the crimp w/ metal rings is a second class citizen to get around the patent,
QRD on aquapex vs regpex
>less expensive than copper
>much faster and easier to install than copper
>can be run in tight spaces that would be difficult or impossible to run copper
>has no scrap value so Jamal and Tyrone won't bother stealing it
>easy to DIY which means no filthy plumbers raping you for installs
PEX is the proven-safe wave of the future. Why are you so resistant to change?
>Been living in a pex house for 20 years
>Go to the doctor to get my mones checked
>T levels are off the charts
Does Reynolds work or do you use store brand when you make your hats. Do they really stop the israelites from stealing your thoughts?
>I hate things cuz theyre different from wut daddy raized me
fyi every time you copy/paste this into a pex thread your T levels drop by half.
My T levels are too high so that's ok.
Here in the third world it's PVC or nothing.
What if I use copper for the single (filtered) drinking water source in my house, and pex for literally everything else including hot water and sprinklers, etc? Seems like an easy compromise
>releases toxins into your drinking water
>source: my ass
Is there any truth that the pex you buy in home depot is bad compared to the stuff pros can order?