Redpill me on white phosphorous warfare?

Redpill me on white phosphorous warfare /k/. Is it still being used in parts of the world? Are civilians fine as long as they avoid the flaming bits that fall to the ground or do they emit some kind of gas or radiation that immediately makes the entire area dangerous? If so, do the gasses or radiation leave civilians with long term health effects? It looks pretty sinister to use tbh

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's based as frick.
    >Maims people
    >Horribly painful
    >Can make your jaw fall off from mere exposure

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Objection, leading the witness

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    its shit
    regular frag/cluster ammo is more economical and more lethal

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's bad for your conscience

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      1st time playing that game with no prior knowledge was one hell of an experience.
      Still remember that part when I "accidentally" kill that one lady in the hotel section.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It annoyed me that I was forced to napalm all those people. Even on my first playthrough, I found them extremely obvious, and tried hitting away from them.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's how the game pushed its narrative I suppose, I do think that it was a bit forced (have to do it to progress). Tho I honestly if there was a better way to handle that part, from a dev point of view.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Tho I honestly if there was a better way to handle that part, from a dev point of view.
            I don't think there is really, just a limitation of the medium, and that it's trying to convey something that is by nature probabilistic. Like, in a full on bad war amidst hundreds of thousands to millions when people are desperate and only bad and less-bad options, no good ones, it becomes pretty inevitable there is going to be some bad shit. Telling that story is worth it, though at the same time there will be lots of people who make it through ok. Like if 10% of a city got raped and murdered we'd consider it really bad but that still means 90% didn't right? In theory it'd be possible to design a game with more of an illusion of choice where an advanced AI or weighting/agent system would ensure that even if you avoided one instance like this it'd happen anyway in some other situation, so everyone would get a different playthrough telling the same story. But that'd be an insane amount of money and effort to develop and make work well and the ultimate effect would be the same damn thing.

            In an open world type of sandbox game scripted shit can be more grating but I think it's just a practical matter for something where the overall thing is on rails.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No it is just a bullshit fake deep game for reddit gays. Remind is me pic rel.
            Game is decent, circle jerk over last 10 years or so made it seem like it is best game ever.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Dame, decent game, but I didn't exactly have my whole worldview shattered or something.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Wut game?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          minecraft

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Moralgay

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Real WP don't do the shit that game made it look to be.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's still widely used. It lives in a rather odd grey area where what makes it legal to use and what makes it illegal is entirely about intent.

    Want to create smoke in an area? Go right ahead
    Want to use it to destroy enemy material? That's fine
    Want to use it against infantry? No go
    Want to use it in civilian areas? Nope
    Want to use it to use it in a civilian area where the enemy has placed equipment or has troops that you just bombarded with high explosives? Well you can just say you were trying to make smoke for concealment, you can't prove I wasn't.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's the traditional way to make instant smoke. The tear-gas-esque effect is a happy trick artillerists learned later. Probably because literal tear gas is banned in war.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I didn’t want to hurt anyone…

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No one ever does.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The smoke forms phosphoric acid in your lungs and eyes. This can cause permanent damage. Phosphorus is also more toxic than cyanide and there is no antidote to phosphorous poisoning. So it seems pretty bad but I have no direct experience with exposure

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Phosphoric acid is nasty if you inhale it in your lungs but it's not toxic. Back in the 1800's and early 1900's it was common for people to order a "phosphate" at a soda fountain. Phosphate sodas had a sour taste due to their content of phosphoric acid, potassium-, magnesium-, and calcium phosphate. Today this lives on in modern colas like coca-cola which still contains phosphoric acid.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Not phosphoric acid per say but actual elemental phosphorous is toxic as frick, so getting it on your skin is going to cause more problems than just burns.

        I mean also the fire spits, sticks to shit, burns for ages, reignites in air... it's a general bastard. Glows in the dark though so that's cool

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it still being used in parts of the world?
    I dunno man...probably

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's not as effective as you think. If there's wet weather, or you have any sort of cover (such as a thin metal sheet or even wood) to prevent the chunks coming direct contact with you or flammable material it's not going to have much incendiary effect. The smoke isn't healthy but it's not THAT bad unless you're stuck in high concentrations of it.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK224560/

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      In that pic you can see it started some fires, but an equivalently sized 155m shell or whatever would have killed everyone in the pic and caused far more damage.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    White phosphorus smoke is hazardous to health but not acutely toxic. Like all other burning metals it is unpleasant to get on you since it cannot be effectively extinguished, historically it was extremely cheap for producing smokescreens.

    It is an extremely common myth that WP, or other incendiaries like napalm are banned. Incendiaries are 100% OK to use against both enemy personnel and materiel, their use is just prohibited near civilian residence.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All I know is that it's great for black comedy.

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