I mean, if you want the ability to point at a building and have it frick all the way off, you can just call in a PGM. That capability didn't exist when they came up with the flying dustbin.
Only works if you can out spend your enemy 100 to 1...anything of a remotely even playing field and you can't be calling air support for every random Sniper
Yes, which is why you find them on engineering vehicles for the removal of obstacles. It's not really intended for combat, more utility, but they could certainly be used under fire even if their primary target isn't the enemy.
WW2 must have been a crazy time. Nobody really knew what worked and everyone is just throwing engineers at various problems hoping something will work. Now every problem can be solved by highly accurate, long range missile. War is just so boring these days.
>be me >1940s German engineer >Boss walks up one day >"Hans they have fricking bunkers" >no shit >"Remember the Tiger Hans?" >"Ja" >"What if we strapped a big frick off gun on it?" >Dear God he's a genius
Precision weapons only works if you have eyes on the target, doesn't work if you just want to demo a row of houses or an apartment complex or a bunker system
yeah but it's small, sometimes you might want to blow something up in a hurry and either don't have or can't wait for air or artillery support. Most MBT's HE can do the job basically the same nowdays though. Especially with modern optics. Slinging a 120mm HE through the window of a house or pillbox is going to have a pretty similar effect, as some 230mm spigot launcher lobbed at the wall
Their main purpose was destroying buildings
Only way through thick brick or concrete walls was to breach the wall and detonate inside it or batter the whole thing down
Medium caliber weapons were too slow to do the formrr but not enough HE to do the latter
High velocity weapons could penetrate reinforced concrete but so little HE filler that they wouldnt guarantee casualties
So 105mm howitzers were needed to pack in enough explosives to destroy walls thoroughly
They arent quite as necessary now as they were before, as 105mm cannons became standard anti-tank weapons in the cold war
And HESH and flechette rounds for anti-fort and anti-personnel use became available
These days they use mine clearing charges instead. They don't work too well against modern mines but 2000 pounds of high explosives is still pretty brutal in urban warfare.
only if you want to blow shit up
I mean, if you want the ability to point at a building and have it frick all the way off, you can just call in a PGM. That capability didn't exist when they came up with the flying dustbin.
Only works if you can out spend your enemy 100 to 1...anything of a remotely even playing field and you can't be calling air support for every random Sniper
It isn't the 80s anymore. A JDAM costs $30,000.
hes saying in peer to peer, AA makes flying a multi million dollar jet everywhere more risky I think
We still have a shit load more manportable explosive capabilities than WW2.
yeah i guess youre right to an extent
Yes, which is why you find them on engineering vehicles for the removal of obstacles. It's not really intended for combat, more utility, but they could certainly be used under fire even if their primary target isn't the enemy.
Kaboom
Used for assaulting enemy infantry, preferably which doesn’t have much AT to shoot back with.
WW2 must have been a crazy time. Nobody really knew what worked and everyone is just throwing engineers at various problems hoping something will work. Now every problem can be solved by highly accurate, long range missile. War is just so boring these days.
The digitization of warfare is pretty exciting if you're a tech nerd.
It's depressing and boring if you're just a regular guy who likes guns and shit
>be me
>1940s German engineer
>Boss walks up one day
>"Hans they have fricking bunkers"
>no shit
>"Remember the Tiger Hans?"
>"Ja"
>"What if we strapped a big frick off gun on it?"
>Dear God he's a genius
>und look at this!
>slides out the turret
>weeeee
Selling weapons to hitler must have been so easy.
>You see zis British gun
>Ve made ours 100mm larger
>JA JA JA ZEHN TRILLION REICHSMARKS, FOR THE FATHERLAND
>get extracted during Operation Paperclip
>help found Kel-Tec
>"What if we strapped a big frick off gun on it?"
the sturmtiger actually fired rockets...
Your mom acktchyually swallowed my jizz last night
Precision weapons only works if you have eyes on the target, doesn't work if you just want to demo a row of houses or an apartment complex or a bunker system
yeah but it's small, sometimes you might want to blow something up in a hurry and either don't have or can't wait for air or artillery support. Most MBT's HE can do the job basically the same nowdays though. Especially with modern optics. Slinging a 120mm HE through the window of a house or pillbox is going to have a pretty similar effect, as some 230mm spigot launcher lobbed at the wall
yes
>AMOS twin 120mm auto mortar
>CV90 AMOS
Yikes
2 is too few?
IIRC that thing only has two barrels and the other two are just for loading the first two.
great at supporting infantry
and can be just as great at taking our other armor if you can negate the range advantage
Their main purpose was destroying buildings
Only way through thick brick or concrete walls was to breach the wall and detonate inside it or batter the whole thing down
Medium caliber weapons were too slow to do the formrr but not enough HE to do the latter
High velocity weapons could penetrate reinforced concrete but so little HE filler that they wouldnt guarantee casualties
So 105mm howitzers were needed to pack in enough explosives to destroy walls thoroughly
They arent quite as necessary now as they were before, as 105mm cannons became standard anti-tank weapons in the cold war
And HESH and flechette rounds for anti-fort and anti-personnel use became available
These days they use mine clearing charges instead. They don't work too well against modern mines but 2000 pounds of high explosives is still pretty brutal in urban warfare.
checked and footage of the meteorit is actually what got me thinking about this thread funny enough
t. OP