Redpill me on .308 rifles

Im looking to buy a gun of each caliber
I have a shitty 12gauge and a shitty .556 AR
waiting on my CZP01 for 9mm

Now im looking at getting a .308 and I dont want to cheap out.
Dont want to overpay either.

Could you suggest me some specific guns with a link to purchase please?
I would also appreciate the practice ammo and expensive reserve ammo I should be buying to go along with the gun.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Now im looking at getting a .308 and I dont want to cheap out.

    MDR

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I just looked it up. Looks like a toy
      would you like to add anything?

      Browse /brg/ and you'll get a feel. I assume you want a semi-automatic. The AR-10 is the most Min maxed choice, but battle rifles have a lot of soul and character to them, something you'll understand the first time you get to shoot a semi-auto 308.

      [...]

      just from a quick look my top guns on this list as far as looks and call of duty are

      M1 Garand
      M1A
      FN FAL

      frick the scar but the XM7 is appealing as well

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I have a FAL and an M1, much prefer FAL due to looks, external magazines (getting very expensive though) and being able to use any kind of 308 I want, vs. the M1 typically needing M2 ball loads. Never selling the M1 though because it's still cool as hell.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Looks like a toy
        >would you like to add anything?
        yeah. you just want someone to tell you that you are smart and intelligent for wanting an M1A and you actually are looking to cheap out.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >frick the scar
        Why?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          OP forgot to mention he only wants a cold-war era battle rifle.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Looks like a toy
        >frick the scar
        Get a M1A you fricking poorgay

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I think I will
          either that or the more expensive XM7

          kys cuck

          guns aren't getting any more expensive yet ammo is. if you're gonna 'invest' in ammo then just buy ammo, you don't need a stupid battle rifle you will do nothing but shoot imaginary bad guys in your house with.

          having ammo you cant shoot is dumb

          its an investment that will no necessarily be sold.
          I dont see this illusion called America making it another 20 years without massive amounts of blood in the streets

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I dont see this illusion called America making it another 20 years

            why, because you saw too many twitter screencaps? you and every other teenager on PrepHole has this exact same belief.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              no moron
              because i know the empire destroys itself to reform every so often

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Get an M1A for superior irons and RUN THROUGH THE JUUUUNGLE vibes
        Get a FAL if you don’t care about optics and want comfy ergonomics (DSA rail filth begone)
        Get a PTR or whatever if you like the look of BIG MP5 and want to feed it shit ammo
        Get a SCAR if you don’t mind spending more for one of the best modern .308 options.
        Get an AR10 for min/maxing cost and performance, but you already have an AR, so maybe branch out a bit
        .308 Garands are gay, don’t.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Can vouch for PTR, it is a jackhammer. Will feed anything, runs dirty as frick but it doesn't care. But it's not an AR10. You must remember it is a long range jackhammer.
        The shelf fitting & no push pin to secure the trigger pack is fricking gay though. For this reason alone I want to eventually have a real HK.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Will feed anything
          To be fair mine doesn't like tar sealed, and others have reported the same. Got it in 2020 if that makes any difference. I still like it though

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Guess I've never ran tar sealed.
            Seeing lots of people say it'll gum up the fluting & frick with ejection. Good to know.

            Mine was also early 2020 and only weird thing was it *did* require a break in period. I thought that was nonsense, but hey, It works. Feeding started out... "tight"? Picking up the bullet but not approaching the feed ramp correctly & double feeds. But after about 200 rounds of garbage tula & wolf it eats like a king.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >but hey, It works
              I find that shooting a shelf up from M80/tar sealed in the PTR delivers pretty damn good groupings, so I'm willing to overlook it. Frustrating at first but I got an M77 to shoot whatever, and the PTR delivers pretty precise groupings. At least 2 MOA with irons if you could believe some random anon

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >bullpup pos

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. I love my MDRX in 308. Great weight balance, trigger, suppressor host, low OAL but still 16 or 20" barrel. They've ironed out the problems pretty well at this point for new ones, and if you do have problems their warranty service is excellent. Not for everyone but it's a very legitimate suggestion. OP gives super minimal info to go on though, like does he want a traditional wood furniture gun or something? That's completely fine, but he didn't say. Also

      https://i.imgur.com/ElSqqD6.png

      Im looking to buy a gun of each caliber
      I have a shitty 12gauge and a shitty .556 AR
      waiting on my CZP01 for 9mm

      Now im looking at getting a .308 and I dont want to cheap out.
      Dont want to overpay either.

      Could you suggest me some specific guns with a link to purchase please?
      I would also appreciate the practice ammo and expensive reserve ammo I should be buying to go along with the gun.

      >I would also appreciate the practice ammo
      Depends on your use plans. Will you be using it for everything, 10 to 800yd? I enjoy using frangible ammo for example because I can shoot at steel or rock or whatever practically point blank with zero ricochet concerns. But for someone shooting exclusively 300yd+ it'd be a bad choice, too light.
      >and expensive reserve ammo I should be buying to go along with the gun.
      This will depend 100% on the gun. Different guns perform best (by which I mean accuracy) with different ammo, and you'll need to either test yourself or find extensive tests. My MDRX does best with specific 168gr (or handloading obviously). For hunting you can basically do whatever, at <300yd and with 308 energy you don't need sub-moa to kill a deer. I use pure copper just to ensure the kids eating it don't face that extra bit of lead but your call.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Browse /brg/ and you'll get a feel. I assume you want a semi-automatic. The AR-10 is the most Min maxed choice, but battle rifles have a lot of soul and character to them, something you'll understand the first time you get to shoot a semi-auto 308.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If you want something with SOVL: M77.
    Successor to the legendary battle tested M76 in a more common caliber. Which is regarded the best eastern DMR besides the russian dragunov. The serbs at Zastava have been in business for 100 years.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://zastavaarmsusa.com/product/pap-m77/

      I like how it takes 7.62 also
      Its either buy a couple of Garands to pass out to unprepared goyim or just buy one nice one for myself

      NJ sucks and my entire family is fricking moronic and thinks everything is fine. The ones who think everything is not fine are not showing any signs of urgency when it comes to preparation for total frickery

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Hello NJ friend, my Garand is my favorite long gun. I strongly recommend it. I’m going to send one to Shuff for a Mini-G conversion at some point

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Available in the US new or used in the secondary market.

    "Tactical"
    Springfield - M1A
    Beretta - BM59/62
    FN - SCAR-17S
    FN - FNAR (or Browning BAR Mk.III DMB, same gun)
    Various: FAL derivatives
    Various: G3 derivatives
    Various: AR-10 derivatives
    IWI - Galil ACE 52
    Kel-Tec - RFB
    K&M - M17S
    Desert Tech - MDRx
    DRD - Paratus
    KRG - Fox42 (.308 ACR, limited release hard to find)
    Robinson Armament - XCR-M
    Holloway - HAC-7 (Rare, expensive)
    SIG - AMT 510-4 (expensive and rate)
    SIG - 751 SAPR (expensive and rare)
    SIG Sauer - MCX Spear
    B&T - APC308

    "Hunting"
    Remington - 750
    Winchester - 100
    Winchester - SXR
    Browning - BAR Mk.II & Mk.III
    H&R - Ultra Automatic
    HK - SL7
    HK - SLB2000
    Merkel - SR1
    Sauer - 303
    Voere - 2185
    Benelli - R1
    Pietta - Chronos
    Verney-Carron - Impact LA

    I'm sure I left out a ton.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      thank you

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot the IWI Tavor-7. Now that I think about it, there are a lot of .308 bullpups on the market right now. Who would have ever guessed that was a possibility 15 years ago? If CZ and Beretta would get off their ass and bring their Bren and ARX200 to the US, that'd be nice. The more the merrier. Steyr's new rifle from IWA also looks pretty sweet.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Forgot the IWI Tavor-7
        Forget the IWI Tavor-7. It's a 4-5 MOA piece of shit. It actually has the accuracy issues that the x95 was claimed to have and exists for no other purpose than shooting people in an urban environment at slightly longer than pistol ranges

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Im looking to buy a gun of each caliber
    That's several thousand guns, at least.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      this thread is about .308

      which .308s do you own?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        SCAR 20s, Bula M14, and a hodgepodge FAL.
        I just thought the idea of OP sourcing truly every caliber from a 2.7x9 Kolibri to an Anzio 20mm was funny.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >ctrl+f
          >bula
          >1 result

          There is no reason to buy a M1A in this day and age when Bula exists.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Do you have an actual use for such a gun or are you just going for maximum consoom product bugman gun hoarding?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The idea is to own about 7 different calibers and invest in ammo for the next couple of years
      Might as well have the guns to go along with them.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >invest in ammo for the next couple of years

        so what you're going to do is buy a bunch of guns and a bunch of ammo and then never go shooting because you're too worried about using up ammo. i suggest getting into airsoft if all you want is a toy to play with.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          shut your prostitute mouth

          https://i.imgur.com/ElSqqD6.png

          Im looking to buy a gun of each caliber
          I have a shitty 12gauge and a shitty .556 AR
          waiting on my CZP01 for 9mm

          Now im looking at getting a .308 and I dont want to cheap out.
          Dont want to overpay either.

          Could you suggest me some specific guns with a link to purchase please?
          I would also appreciate the practice ammo and expensive reserve ammo I should be buying to go along with the gun.

          >I would also appreciate the practice ammo and expensive reserve ammo I should be buying to go along with the gun.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            guns aren't getting any more expensive yet ammo is. if you're gonna 'invest' in ammo then just buy ammo, you don't need a stupid battle rifle you will do nothing but shoot imaginary bad guys in your house with.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      r/consumeproduct lost lol. I am going to own .308s and enjoy them and you can seethe about it

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I personally have a PSA AR-10 that I use regularly, but there are plenty of .308 rifles out there with character. DSA has a FAL that is Semi Auto only you could look into if you like FALs as much as me.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The AR-10 will be by far the most economical choice, and if you actually pay MSRP for something like an M1A then you’re an actual moron, and I’m saying that as someone that actually kind of likes it. That said other rifles like the M1A and M77 have a certain fun factor to them that the AR really doesn’t have.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You literally posted the correct choice, get a scout model though, they can regularly be had for $1400 or so if you check for deals and if you really want to go with the absolute cheapest PSA will have SOCOM models for like $1100 all the time.
    I personally do not like the SOCOM because the front sight is absolutely massive where the scount comes with a National Match sight.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >get a scout model
      don't do this

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Literally no reason to get the standard over it unless you want to semi-larp as a nam rifle. The synthetic stock scout is pretty much the best out of the box semi auto 308 you can buy.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >The synthetic stock scout is pretty much the best out of the box semi auto 308 you can buy.
          anon pls

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Haha

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          SCAR and most AR-10s wipe the floor with the M1A so thoroughly it's like they pour the foundation, build the subfloor, lay the flooring, and then wipe it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Until they blow themselves up, no AR10 or SCAR has the reliability and ruggedness of any M1A or M14. The only thing they have is it's significantly easier to mount optics to them over the M1A. But it's still easier to mount them to the M1A than the FAL or G3 style rifles.

            >The synthetic stock scout is pretty much the best out of the box semi auto 308 you can buy.
            anon pls

            Haha

            nogunz morons

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >no AR10 or SCAR has the reliability and ruggedness of any M1A or M14
              Which is why the worlds militaries haven't phased out M14 derivatives in favor of AR10s and SCARs

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Except they didn't the KAC was already proven a failure while the M14 is STILL being used and most of if not all of these rifles were built in the 50's and 60's. The M14 is extremely durable and reliable. Literally the reason it won over the original AR10 and it still wins over the modern ones.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Anon please. I own a real M14, and I used to own a Portuguese AR10. I love my old girl. But she won over the old-school AR-10 because of the most horrific institutional nepotism tantrum mode, and because lmao AR-10 hybrid barrel go boom. It doesn’t handle muck or cold any better than the FAL or G3, and is generally just about on par with them, imo. It simply does not stack up to a decent modern AR10 or SCAR at all, except maybe in price regarding the latter.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You haven't looked into the tests enough, the M14 won not because of nepotism but because it was just better, the G3 was and always will be dogshit. The FAL is the only real contender but it somehow managed to be heavier than the M14 with literally 0 advantages except it is easier to field strip and it did slightly worse than the M14 in some tests and slightly better in others.
                The AR10 was just a barrel kaboom it was numerous failures all around. From barrels booming to receivers and bolts cracking, pins walking out and the stock breaking it was just a mess all around. The AR15 program legitimately fixed many of the issues the original AR10 had yet even today AR10's or AR308's whatever they are called are still a mess of issues because the system simply isn't capable of handling 308 without major changes, changes that no one is willing to do. KAC tried and failed and time will tell if this new wave of AR10's will suck just as much shit or less. The SCAR finally managed to make a gun that didn't destroy itself but rather everything attached to it instead, so I guess that's fine. The new BREN2 308 thing seems like it will be a SCAR but better, but we have to wait and see on that one.
                Short of it is M14's don't die until the 6 figure round counts and preform great until then, AR10's and many others will be lucky to hit 5 figure round counts.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The M14 was the golden child of the Ord Dept, and was always going to win, bud. That Garand-derived action is completely outdated, though. And frankly, with today’s aftermarket, the age and flaws of the design really do show. If you want it as a comfy woods plinking rifle, it will do. For any serious fighting use, though? We all know you’re going with a nice SCAR or AR10 or a nice HK91, or just straight-up going intermediate cartridge mode.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >G3 is dogshit
                Have you ever used one? What are your complaints?
                I'll give you this, the HK diopter irons are an absolute meme. An optic is non negotiable.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Confirmed moronic if anon thinks ARs won't hit five digit round counts and keep plugging along.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >no AR10 or SCAR has the reliability and ruggedness of any M1A or M14
              >nogunz morons
              my guy, I don't even dislike the M14 but this is just stupid. I'll even entertain you with a couple of my jawns

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >no AR10 or SCAR has the reliability and ruggedness of any M1A or M14
              >gaping open and exposed action more reliable
              I guess if you just target shoot at a bench with a cover

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >unless you want to semi-larp as a nam rifle
          Yes.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This!
      Do not, I repeat, DO NOT BUY THE SOCOM!

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You would be better off with a good bolt action over AR-10 unless you’re fine with paying extra

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    M1A is garbage

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    AR10, Ruger SFAR is the best.

    G3, PTR91 is the best. Do not wait for the turkshit clones, they're going to be crap like all turkshit and Turkish people.

    Generally if you're an ARgay get the AR and if an AKchad get the G3. Do not bother with FALs or M1As.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Also if you want tippy top of the line, the MDRX in .308 is the most advances rifle currently available to the civilian market. The True Velocity Genesis isn't out yet but may beat it in terms of advancement, it may come in .308

      Don't bother with a SCAR, that may have been the most advanced thing 20 years ago but it's unjustifiably expensive. It's not cutting edge tech anymore yet still demands the price of something brand new. It doesn't do anything better than an AR10 that costs thousands less. The BREN is cheaper and a bit of an improvement if you like that set up.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it seems my superiority has led to some controversy

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If a boltie is in your wheelhouse:

    Howa 1500
    Tikka T3X

    Both moderately priced, accurate and generally well regarded.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i am ok with Bolt action

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The M&P10 does not get the love it deserves in these lists.
    Yes, proprietary BCG and barrel extensible, but if you change both it's actually very easy to do. I've changed everything but the barrel and bolt carrier and it's far more accurate than I'll ever be. Great fricking rifle.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just get whatever cold war gun tickles your pickle, you seem set on the M1A so get that

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm partial to the M77, I've got a bit of trigger time behind the RFB as well and I like that too. I can easily recommend both of them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Seconding this, got tired of horror stories of dsa fals and ptrs getting sent back. The semi auto shelf on g3 clones is big gay, we want actual pins. Don’t gotta baby a .308 ak. M77 is best bang for buck battle rifle at the moment no question.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    M21A5 by Smith Enterprise or MK14

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'll be honest...

    For the caliber that it is - it's well documented and you will be hard-pressed to go wrong with it. It may however not be the best for what you want it to be.

    I've heard great things about it in bolt action but I don't have one in bolt action so I don't want to speak for it but I can speak to the M1A SA NM that I have. It's a fun/good gun. Certainly too heavy for modern usage but not no-good. It has certain role that it can work in but not too much beyond the scope of the design/dimension of the rifle itself [NM model vs say a Tanker model].

    I would say to go with at least reputable brands that you know you would have the unit serviced should anything go wrong; beyond that have fun 2nd' Mendment'er!

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >and a shitty .556 AR
    >each caliber
    >.308
    Do you hunt or intend to? A cheap bolt action would suffice. You're not doing precision shooting or DMR LARP, you've fulfilled your 2A obligations with the shitty AR. Keep it simple. Need vs. Want. You still have to feed and scope the thing.

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