Red Wings and SEAL professionalism

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I am a 37 year old virgin.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 45, never even had a relationship.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They were green and thought they were hot shit
    Discarded the already existing infil plan and decided to just take a helicopter ride within pissing distance of the target they were supposed to sneak up on
    So, very simply, arrogance

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. The SEALS supposedly poached the op from the Marines that were already stationed there, but neglected to implement any of the safe-guards/contingencies the Marines included in their original planning, in case the op was compromised. The SEALs also supposedly cheaped out on their commo gear for the op as well, another thing that the Marines knew about the AO, but again, the SEALs chose to ignore for whatever reason.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. The SEALS supposedly poached the op from the Marines that were already stationed there, but neglected to implement any of the safe-guards/contingencies the Marines included in their original planning, in case the op was compromised. The SEALs also supposedly cheaped out on their commo gear for the op as well, another thing that the Marines knew about the AO, but again, the SEALs chose to ignore for whatever reason.

      In his book, Rob O'Neill and his DEVGRU team offered help as the recce team instead of Murphy's SDV team but got rejected

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm pretty sure the Marines even tried to fly in with a helicopter a couple months before Redwings and got caught.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    a bunch of undisciplined cowboys

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t know how many times I’ve seen this photo and never noticed the dicked up blousing

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        half of their boots don't even have the laces tied
        fricking sloppy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      frick you sixta

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        YALL LOOK LIKE ELVISES

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    didn't it come out in recent years that these guys got btfo by like 8 taliban insurgents instead of like 50 - 100 of them? what a propaganda stunt. Bet Marcus Luttrell was running for his life while the others were screaming for his help

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand /k/'s autistic hate boner for SEALs.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      everyone hates the seals

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ego, steroids, not to mention the whole beard and tatts and roids became popular because of them.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's just part of being a man, what's wrong with any of that?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Another big part of being a man is drinking BLACK RIFLE COFFE(tm) and make sure to buy my beard oil

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What's wrong with roids though? The enemy doesn't have them so it's unfair? I don't get it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PrepHole is a contrarian site. anything the mainstream likes PrepHole has to hate.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PrepHole is a contrarian site. anything the mainstream likes PrepHole has to hate.

      4 Chan is a contrarian site yes, but the issue imo is their lack of professionalism. SEALs just appear to have far more instances of fricking up in ways that indicate an inferior culture compared to the rest of SOCOM. It’s not like they do more so the odds of frickups are higher by sheer volume of missions, army SF is larger and does more but you don’t hear about shit like this from them nearly as much.

      Also their rampant book/movie deals.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      For pushing the worst most homosexual aspects of bro military culture, while basically being a bunch of lazy shitheads who don't know their place, and don't know how to fricking TAB
      Should make any good infantryman sick of their bullshit glory hogging ways

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It was something like this, somebody correct any bits I get wrong
    >Marine unit was given the mission, they had a good plan, most likely would've worked
    >SEALs poach the op and arrogantly ignore every bit of advice the marines give them
    >Several of the SEALs had never been in combat before because you can apply to be a SEAL from off the street, and I think only one had mountain combat experience
    >Instead of disembarking the chopper miles away from the target area and then hiking in like the marines planned, they fly right in loud and dumb
    >Every Terry-taliban in the area hears them
    >The SEALs do multiple fake drop-offs before fast-roping out for real, which is moronic for obvious reasons, they also don't bother hiding the rope afterwards
    >Terry-taliban send some goat-herders to check it out, they know NATO ROE will keep them from getting clapped
    >The SEALs stumble across them and let them go instead of zip-tying them to a tree or something
    >The herders run back to Terry-taliban and give away the SEALs location
    >Oh yeah the SEALs barely moved in the meantime, also they learned that the radios they brought along suck ass in the mountains, should've used the ones recommended by the marines
    >Soon afterwards a single squad of taliban ambush the SEALs from an elevated position with an RPK or something, it's over in less than a minute
    >Every SEAL except Luttrell gets popped, I think one them got blown off a cliff by a grenade
    >Luttrell turns and runs, abandoning his guys. He makes it to a village and the local who sheltered him later claimed that he still had all of his ammunition.
    >SEAL reinforcements eventually show up in a chopper and arrogantly fly/hover directly over taliban who are armed with RPGs, predictable results
    >Taliban show up and the village and demand that they hand over Luttrell, they get told to frick off by the locals and they leave

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Luttrell turns and runs, abandoning his guys
      I thought Luttrell was the one who got blown off the cliff by the grenade. When he got to the village he didn't have any pants because they got shredded and his legs were full of shrapnel and his back was broken among other bones. Not sure what his ammo situation was or how many Taliban were after him, but I'm pretty sure he got fricked up pretty badly.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://sofrep.com/news/lone-survivor-uncovered-the-ambush-at-sawtalo-sar/
      Ahmad Shah forces only got destroyed by 2/3 Marines in Op Whalers, and the Ranger RRC Team 3 who killed the TBan from Op Red Wings and their reinforcement.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >What went wrong?
    Not enough book deals

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when SEALs left behind one of their men and the dead body of a comrade on a mountain as they ran away from some goat herders? Lmao what a fricking joke.
    I'd love to see these morons go up against a real army if they can't even fight literal morons with AKs and bombs made in a kid's basement.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Hubris trap, never assume you're more capable than the enemy

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Did the SEALs ever frick up as bad as the Australian SAS?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://theintercept.com/2017/01/10/the-crimes-of-seal-team-6/

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        can you imagine the sweat dripping off of those and onto your face

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve heard rumors that BUD/S is to blame for the current SEAL culture. It’s now a zero sum game with mostly well trained teenagers knowing every evolution?

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I may have missed it, but did /k/ discuss the death of the Kyle Mullen during BUD/S? The investigation revealed what a completely shit culture the Seals have. Even their medical staff are ego-driven nut jobs that don't give a shit about fellow soldiers. You are basically not allowed to seek outside help and everyone tries to cover up incidents. Fellow candidates tried multiple times to get him medical help but they were all threatened to be ejected if they called 911 so they kept their mouth shut. The Seal medics knew he needed emergency medical treatment but told him he was fine, go to bed. Then he died of pneumonia.

    I used to think the Seals were badass when I was younger. It was after the Osama bin Laden raid I started to question just what kind of people they really were. As soon as they started arguing about who got the kill on Osama that's when I realized they weren't professionals and weren't team players. It was all about glory and money for book deals.

    Then I read about all the BS stories they make up like Chris Kyle saying he punched Jesse Ventura (they never even met) and of course the popular Luttrell story. Now I'll never believe anything a Seal says.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a wildland firefighter, this sounds like the kind of shit people say about hotshot crews. Which makes sense, fire and war are very mortalizing things, no matter how good you are something can always happen that makes you look like a baby with shit on your ass. But these fricking idiots act like they're above it because they're on a special team.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It takes a lot of courage to put yourself in theatre. When someone inevitably losing their nerve, I can't find it my heart to roast them for it.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    See, the problem here is that normies mostly go in for the le epic operator schtick. While channers mindlessly despise SEALs because of "muh ZOGbots" So it's hard to get to the truth.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's not about them being zogbots here, plenty of zogbots here, it's called being a mercenary and not giving a shit
      The problem is they don't take it seriously, they bring about a shitty culture than has 0 professionalism, dogshit corps de esprit
      Frick em, rather have signals or artillerymen coming to try save my ass than gay ass frickhead SEALs

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Hurrrr contrarianism
    Let's not forget that a couple years ago Navy high brass has already said that their is a genuine culture problem within the SEALS and they even pulled them from some missions in order to do some unfricking

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Don't send SEALs to do a grunts job

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