I'm gonna be doing some Armed Guard work and figure its a "no brainer" (pardon pun) to protect brain from at least pistol fire as much as I can for cheap.
Issues are:
1)what is wrong with them and WTF should be wary of?
2)sizing: I've got XXXL size head in normal hat size (maybe XXL will fit but I also wear skull cap for easy washing so hat don't smell like socks) so how does that work for US GI helmet sizing.
3) Not looking for top tier super operator. More like max protection from some punk's 9mm as well as throw bottles, rocks, sucker punch and just sun and rain, mostly sun. Something that is OK to put on once an hour for my 10min "round" around the building/lot.
WTF about this?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304580560066?hash=item46ea6a84c2:g:55gAAOSwRopi3GL-
What else is better source for cheap, legit helmet?
Anon my boy, are the other guards going to be wearing helmets?
Half the operators in any production milling machine shop won't be wearing safety glasses.
Doesn't make it any smarter.
it is smart bc when u get sweaty the glasses fog up and u cant see good
I point the grinder away from me, how is that such a difficult concept?
then it'll just bounce off of something and back into your eye, you've got to get the sparks to bounce off of your beer gut and directly down into your boots (which you have tucked your pants into)
>it is smart bc when u get sweaty the glasses fog up and u cant see good
Anti-fog or anti-fogging agents and treatment are chemicals that prevent fogging on the surface on which they are applied by inhibiting the condensation of water on the surface.
tldr You are a moron.
all my glasses fog up
no, and I figure its like when you see a bear and you steal just one of your buddies shoes and he says "dude, that bear can still run faster than you with both shoes" and you say "I don't need to run faster than the bear, just faster than you".
>says he wants a helmet for "armed guard" duty
>specifies he wears some absurd size (probably not)
>helmet listing is for a size large
yeah no.
I wear a 7 3/4s baseball cap and an XL is more than enough. If you actually wear an 8 1/2 or whatever an XXL might be necessary.
cool, thx, I wear about same but 7 3/4 is med-snug.
Like I said, I'm not gonna be wearing this hours/days on end unable to take it off, and I also like to wear inner liner skull caps, or soaked towels for cooling, etc.
Leather band seems bit problematic with soaked towel but I guess that shit is replaceable.
Piggy backing off OP to ask another private security related question:
Last year I made the decision to trust my life on the street to Second Chance body armor. I got the level IIa because it stops the most rounds. plus I got the Trauma Plate for the front.
What scares me is that, although I can fit an extra trauma plate in the front, I cannot fit a second one in back. As of late I have taken to duct-taping a second trauma plate to the area of my back where the heart and vital organs are located. Then I put my vest on.
Here is the questions. The ducttape solution, although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove. I would like to go to the single-plate solution in back. What I am worried about is repeated hits to that area with .308 ammunition. I have a high-risk security job and I fear that I would be the target for repeated long-distance shots to my back.
Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop, say, .338 Lapua or something like that? Is there a better way to do the second plate?
BTW, I am, of course, usually carrying a pair of ceramic plates in my briefcase so that I can shield my head. My SO (we work as a team when necessary) has a similar accessory containing a breakdown NEF single-shot 300 WinMag with an 18″ bbl. The plan is that I shield us with my body and “catch the rounds” while she assembles the NEF. I lay down covering fire with my 23 (Bar-Sto .357 Sig barrel) and she makes the long shots. I will then throw smoke grenades to obscure the area while continuing to lay covering fire. The problem, of course, is when I have to turn my back to run, and then the problem crops up.
Thanks!
Ah, guaranteed replies.
Level 4 plates are the best you can do or that FRAS body armor or whatever Kentucky Ballistics shot the frick out of
FRAS is a meme, stop watching youtube salesmen
Dude, it's the most ancient mall ninja copypasta. Don't fall for it.
>2)sizing: I've got XXXL
Jug head
Kevlar has a 5 year shelf life. Those helmets are useless.
>Kevlar has a 5 year shelf life. Those helmets are useless.
This. The shelf life on helmets especially should be followed. Plus wearing a helmet as an armed guard is kinda mall ninja
>another moron trying to claim a warranty period is the same as shelf life
I do not understand the “joke” or the “Rambo.” I am in a high-risk job. It is not the Mall of America, but Ill tell you what its no podunk mall either.I am a responsible citizen who has made the choice to carry at all times. I defend others. If something happens at the Mall then I would be the hero, not those of you who are making fun of me for no reason. Yes Im not a Green Beret but guess what neither are you and unlike you I have to face unruly shoppers every day.My REAL problem is that, like any LEO, I have enemies because of my job. They may have access to high-powered rifles. My job starts and ends at the same time every day. Although I use four rotating routes to drive to and from work, I am still vulnerable during the walk to and from my car. This is the time that I load up on the trauma plates because I DO NOT WANT TO BE SHOT DEAD!Also, someone said that my Tac Team doesn’t get training. Not true. We meet at the range every night and shoot 400 rounds each through weapons that closely resemble our duty setup. We also practice unarmed combat. I am a Master of three martial arts including ninjitsu, which means I can wear the special boots to climb walls. I don’t think any of you are working as hard as I am to be prepared. I asked a serious question about tactical armor and I wanted a serious response. If you want to laugh at somebody, try laughing at the sheep out there who go to the mall unarmed trusting in me to stand guiard over their lives like a God.
wtaf
Who are your "enemies"? Old grandmas and 13 year old skater kids?
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What about. 50 bmg threats fired from hot topic?
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Not OP but i have a question about helmet sizing, i have a really narrow head (1940s krauts would be aroused after measuring my skull). This makes it so that i can only wear narrow dad caps and small beanies, are there smaller sized helmets for people like me or would i be fine with a "normal" helmet. Sometimes sunglasses for kids fit me better than ones for adults lol.