Realistically, with no mecha or made-up super nukes, what could you do to beat them?

Realistically, with no mecha or made-up super nukes, what could you do to beat them? Remember that any aircraft flying below 10 km (6.2 mi) but above NOE (as in a Helicopter can just barely avoid getting killed but no jet aircraft realistically can last long flying low enough) will just get laser'd instantly

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I would rape them with my penis weenus

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Regular nukes.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Laser nerds can be baited into firing and killed on recharge. The rest die to vehicle weapons or smaller.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    rush psionics and blaster bombs

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I would rape and murder (op) for being a homosexual and posting on the wrong board.

      >psionics sissie
      You WILL rush the MEC production and you WILL love and cherish your heavy metal alien genociding spud waifus.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Funnily enough, psionics and mechs are indeed two critical components of humanity's strategy in Muv-Luv (though the former in particular spent a long time producing shit results before getting anywhere)

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >as in a Helicopter can just barely avoid getting killed but no jet aircraft realistically can last long flying low enough
    Why? Because a Jap says so?. You can can fly with jets incredibly low and fast using the ground effect. But ironically that makes you more vulnerable to our own anti-air systems. Hell drones would actually work because they can't have infinite supplies of energy and chemicals to operate those lasers, thus let them shoot down $50 trash until they are exhausted then grind them into dust with artillery and cluster munitions. Their lasers are visible to our optical devices and they have helpfully pinpointed their positions. And it they don't shoot down automated propplane then it drops a clusterbomb on them. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    No "made up" required when it comes to nukes in any hypothetical as EFPs created by nuclear explosions(which aren't made up as we know exactly how to make them) already vastly outstrip the amount of energy that certain "super advanced" scifi weapons claim they can put on a cross-section of a target. Not that it matters since I see no space battleships to destroy here or fortifications to smash except maybe that big one. That said really just shittons of EFPs will melt through them like butter. And nukes, lots and lots of tactical nuclear warheads because in reality there is little reason not to use them. As for the laser ones, counter them with your own IR lasers, their lense-eyes will be semi-opaque to whatever frequency they are using but likely to be opaque to others you can use. Find those frequencies and you can inflict intant blindness at miles distant. The only reason we don't use IR laser to do this in war against humans is out of a gentlemen's agreement. Aliens don't receive consideration.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Change the composition of your armor on your armored vehicles to counter the lasers. stuff like aerogel backing a laser resistant surface so that the heat is not transferred to the interior and almost 100% goes to your ablative coating. Doesn't add hardly any weight and since I see not guns on them other than the lasers bulk makes little difference. Since I see no organic missiles or any way for them to attack outside of line of sight lasers a single surface presented to the enemy are arguably more effect than it is for us today.

      They use chemical reactions and intake material from outside, if so they are vulnerable to poison. Gas'em. Gas drones, gas mines, gas shells, gas scampy, gas stir-fry, gas-skin coats, gas personnel watercraft, gas based religion, and lest we forget gas israelites.

      Us mines, you can deliver them by shell or dropped by low flying aircraft. We have them now and they can hear human footsteps or armored vehicles, determine that is the type of target they are designed to kill, jump out of the ground with a charge and fire shrapnel or an EFP at either respectively.

      I could go on but I'll point out that this is a problem with also military fiction and scifi in general. Partly because the authors need a story to happen so the conflict can't be a one sided slaughter. And party because many don't like war, or the case of this jap they like the aesthetics of a classic war story but not the merciless autism of a logistical chain.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'm pretty sure that all Dragons/Bugs/Reapers/Zombies/Alamos/Whatever I've seen in fiction are almost pathetically piss weak compared to what could be made today if a component military engage in the ruthless brutal Taylorism we saw the US go in WW2. And that was a halfway measure, imagine pissing actual humans off enough that they transformed their civilization into nothing more than a means to kill your ass. Every though was bent toward finding more efficient ways to kill your ass. All leisure was simulations of killing your ass. Much more terrifying than giant space bugs, or terminators, or whatever some libtard dreamed up. Because the enemy doesn't issue ultimatums and often doesn't even confront you. Death comes without warning when a mine planed by shit-cheap automated crop duster years ago hears you sneeze and leaps from the ground to murder everything within 30 ft of you for good measure. Or that same crop duster comes over and spays VX on the entire area, sure you shot it down but that doesn't save you. The enemy isn't a noble warrior, an or an innumerable horde though it might deploy those if the bean-counter department has decided that it is worth the effort. The enemy is the equivalent of a knife in the dark but deployed at an industrial scale. And it never stops, not out of singular purpose but because it has forgotten how to stop. It now exists to perpetuate murder forever it will not stop itself and cannot be stopped.

        We saw only the barest preview of the machine of slaughter we could devise if only there was impetus for it. It's not even something as dramatic as a chrome skeleton, is just a cheap "good enough" threshing machine and if you are lucky whoever put it together bothered to slap the word's "FEED ME" in bloc capitals on the front with a stencil. But they likely didn't because the bean counters said that doesn't help murder the enemy.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          you know, you've said nothing that I think is bad or wrong but do you have to be such a wanker about it?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >fictional wars are written poorly because libtards
          Less internet, more touching grass.

          https://i.imgur.com/2fwGvK3.gif

          I love that so many here love murder as much as i do.

          >"how do you kill X" thread
          >anons in it post ways to kill X
          I mean, yeah.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            But the vast majority of writers are libtards and therefore have no passion for war. I suppose you could read Baen Books but those seem to be meant to be moronic. I mean I get it, creating an alien invasion that isn't a one sided slaughter is hard. It's as if you asked how do Britains from the 15th century defeat Americans from the 21st, the answer is "they can't" thus any realistic alien invasion story wherein the aliens are morons ends with them bombing you to rubble and rubble into powder.

            My issue is more that the aliens are often so incompetent that they aren't a threat to us.

            >Mohs scale
            Lol, mohs is shorthand for children, and hardness is only one small part of what determines durability. Holy shit Japs are moronic.

            It's double dumb since mohs only goes up to 10 and is an ordinal scale and thus arbitrary. There would have to be 4 things between diamond and this super material for us to even know what 15 Mohs means.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The vast majority of writers are hacks, period: your obsession with neolib political tribes is completely unwarranted here.
              Also, you're double moronic for complaining about Terminator, where Skynet is both plausibly competent and plausibly limited.
              Finally, you're triple moronic for assuming an alien invading army must have purely military goals and can't be forced into inefficiency by internal politics or larger threats (hint: both Vietnam wars, both Afghanistan occupations) or a multitude of other non-military factors, if you're creative it might not even be an actual war but some alien kids trying out their toy soldiers on some insignificant wildlife.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Nooooo don't notice that 90% of the morons happen to call themselves left nooo don't notice patterns stooooop
                Post your gun, gay.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >pattern recognition
                Someone pull up the article where researchers caused people to think more like a leftist by giving them brain damage lamo.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >pattern recognition
                Someone pull up the article where researchers caused people to think more like a leftist by giving them brain damage lamo.

                >oh cool, an anime thread on /k/
                >this is the best place to air my political grievances
                Go back to faceberg

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >pattern recognition
                Someone pull up the article where researchers caused people to think more like a leftist by giving them brain damage lamo.

                The vast majority of writers are hacks, period: your obsession with neolib political tribes is completely unwarranted here.
                Also, you're double moronic for complaining about Terminator, where Skynet is both plausibly competent and plausibly limited.
                Finally, you're triple moronic for assuming an alien invading army must have purely military goals and can't be forced into inefficiency by internal politics or larger threats (hint: both Vietnam wars, both Afghanistan occupations) or a multitude of other non-military factors, if you're creative it might not even be an actual war but some alien kids trying out their toy soldiers on some insignificant wildlife.

                But the vast majority of writers are libtards and therefore have no passion for war. I suppose you could read Baen Books but those seem to be meant to be moronic. I mean I get it, creating an alien invasion that isn't a one sided slaughter is hard. It's as if you asked how do Britains from the 15th century defeat Americans from the 21st, the answer is "they can't" thus any realistic alien invasion story wherein the aliens are morons ends with them bombing you to rubble and rubble into powder.

                My issue is more that the aliens are often so incompetent that they aren't a threat to us.

                [...]
                It's double dumb since mohs only goes up to 10 and is an ordinal scale and thus arbitrary. There would have to be 4 things between diamond and this super material for us to even know what 15 Mohs means.

                This is gun land.
                Everyone who wants more gun laws or supports the ones already in place is the eternal enemy.
                If that's most of a race, nation, or party, they are the enemy. They are the enemy until they abandon their homosexualy anti gun position. This is a single issue board.

                No gun, no opinion.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >No gun, no opinion
                >doesn't post guns, vomits out off topic homosexualry instead

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If you were from here instead of being a raiding homosexual you'd know that the first one called out always posts gun first, Black person.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >made up headcanon to avoid posting guns
                Sasuga

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >called out as nogun
                >"No you!"
                >Thats what noguns always say
                >"Nuh uh you would have posted your gun if you had one!!!"
                So you admit you have no gun, by your own argument.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Autonomous mobile swords, huh?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Change the composition of your armor on your armored vehicles to counter the lasers. stuff like aerogel backing a laser resistant surface so that the heat is not transferred to the interior and almost 100% goes to your ablative coating. Doesn't add hardly any weight and since I see not guns on them other than the lasers bulk makes little difference. Since I see no organic missiles or any way for them to attack outside of line of sight lasers a single surface presented to the enemy are arguably more effect than it is for us today.

      They use chemical reactions and intake material from outside, if so they are vulnerable to poison. Gas'em. Gas drones, gas mines, gas shells, gas scampy, gas stir-fry, gas-skin coats, gas personnel watercraft, gas based religion, and lest we forget gas israelites.

      Us mines, you can deliver them by shell or dropped by low flying aircraft. We have them now and they can hear human footsteps or armored vehicles, determine that is the type of target they are designed to kill, jump out of the ground with a charge and fire shrapnel or an EFP at either respectively.

      I could go on but I'll point out that this is a problem with also military fiction and scifi in general. Partly because the authors need a story to happen so the conflict can't be a one sided slaughter. And party because many don't like war, or the case of this jap they like the aesthetics of a classic war story but not the merciless autism of a logistical chain.

      Smoke arty to weaken the lasers, then high-albedo drones to saturate them and reveal their positions, then low-observability PGMs to kill them.
      And that's just low tech SEAD, if you want to get fancy you can just blind the lasers by firing a different frequency laser at them, bait them with chaff/whatever else tricks their tracking, exhaust their energy reserves via sustained cheap drone spam...

      >Pinpoint target at sixty miles
      >But if it goes a quarter mile up it's invincible

      >thinking drones will work
      Congratulations you just wasted thousands of man hours and resources and you didn't even cause any damage to them. Laser classes can fire 38km and heavy lasers 100km.
      >500 meters
      Do note that this is a translation error, that's the 100% hit zone. You fly lower and the regular lasers take care of you, heavy lasers are anti ICBM/orbital strike units.
      >smoke
      Useless. You need heavy metals to diffuse the beam enough for heavily armored TSF's to even get close, which fricks coms badly. You have to fly less than 15 meters and that puts you into grappler range.
      >laser class
      Hundreds, up to 2000 depending on swarm size, and their ROF is more than enough to cause divisions worth of artillery to melt their tubes with minimal damage. TSF's have two tactics.
      >leapfrog kiting
      They essentially cause a swarm to chase them into minefields, tank fire, or TSF ambush.
      >laserjager
      This requires conventional units to act as bait while TSF's sprint in and kill lasers in CQC, while dancing between BETA to exploit their refusal to fratocide, and then use artillery to mop up the rest. If it works it's extremely effective, but if dosen't then it's very casualty intensive.
      >MuvLuv
      Shows the commies as backstabbing morons, the Japanese as inflexible morons, and the United States as the only sensible faction, and thus everyone hates them.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Congratulations you just wasted thousands of man hours and resources and you didn't even cause any damage to them. Laser classes can fire 38km and heavy lasers 100km.
        Youre clearly actually autistic just reading this post, not even gonna bother with the rest but this is a particularly moronic point. Theoretical effective range of these lasers isnt going to matter, just fly the drones low to the ground and use terrain to hide them. These chuckle fricks fire one laser every 12-36 seconds, they're going to have time for like 2 barrages if you ambush them with a drone swarm if not less. Also they WILL NOT fire through their own as you stated yourself so automate some synchronized low flying evasive measures right off the deck and they're even further fricked. Automated killbot swarm completely BTFOs the entire premise.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Congratulations you just wasted thousands of man hours and resources and you didn't even cause any damage to them.

        Anon did miss the point that they'll waste their energy and chemicals(they are lasing something after all) on shooting down walmart drones. "Thousands of man hours" is more like fifteen minutes. Then you drop nukes and cluster munitions on them, because I'm not japanese or Carl Sagan and therefore don't think nukes are magic. Modern nukes are plenty clean enough and a preferrable alternative given these things just eat all matter anyway.

        Also you missed the part where we blind the alien laser pointers with our own, which is another reason to bait them. The human eye and be permanently blinded by a millisecond pulse from commercial class laser. These things have lenses both for shooting and resolving an image of the target they are shooting at. They will be opaque to some frequency of light, get the chemical that lases at the frequency, get a power source to excite and you got blind space bugs. Perhaps they can repair the damage, much like we would could wear optics that we'd allow to get fried and simply replace after battle.

        And more nukes. Nobody, not even a Japanese strawman of the USA is nuke-happy enough for my taste. I demand half of the shells in any 120mm armed vehicle be nukes. Anything less is an insult to freedom. I demand recreational casaba howitzers.

        It's this the partial porn game with japs refusing to use english for traffic control or something?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Seriously, besides hive infiltrations its helicopters. A Type-89 is six times taller than an Apache or Cobra so what ever you would lose in chopper NOE flight height, which is likely bull shit and reason to not use choppers for rule of cool, you gain back in height compared to a TSF.

          >It's this the partial porn game with japs refusing to use english for traffic control or something?
          Partial being the key word and the Japanese refuse to speak english because of coup.

          [...]
          [...]
          [...]
          >thinking drones will work
          Congratulations you just wasted thousands of man hours and resources and you didn't even cause any damage to them. Laser classes can fire 38km and heavy lasers 100km.
          >500 meters
          Do note that this is a translation error, that's the 100% hit zone. You fly lower and the regular lasers take care of you, heavy lasers are anti ICBM/orbital strike units.
          >smoke
          Useless. You need heavy metals to diffuse the beam enough for heavily armored TSF's to even get close, which fricks coms badly. You have to fly less than 15 meters and that puts you into grappler range.
          >laser class
          Hundreds, up to 2000 depending on swarm size, and their ROF is more than enough to cause divisions worth of artillery to melt their tubes with minimal damage. TSF's have two tactics.
          >leapfrog kiting
          They essentially cause a swarm to chase them into minefields, tank fire, or TSF ambush.
          >laserjager
          This requires conventional units to act as bait while TSF's sprint in and kill lasers in CQC, while dancing between BETA to exploit their refusal to fratocide, and then use artillery to mop up the rest. If it works it's extremely effective, but if dosen't then it's very casualty intensive.
          >MuvLuv
          Shows the commies as backstabbing morons, the Japanese as inflexible morons, and the United States as the only sensible faction, and thus everyone hates them.

          Accept that's not true per the source material at all. Artillery works just fine forward of the laser class its just impossible to deep strike and hit the BETAs reserve because of lases class.
          >Congratulations you just wasted thousands of man hours and resources and you didn't even cause any damage to them. Laser classes can fire 38km and heavy lasers 100km.
          But drones work just fine as recon in Muv-Luv. They show that at Sadoshima and at least one other time in the anime post Russia.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        /tg/ my imaginary friend could beat up your imaginary friend post
        Kill youself
        Gay thread
        I rape you with my penis

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Smoke arty to weaken the lasers, then high-albedo drones to saturate them and reveal their positions, then low-observability PGMs to kill them.
    And that's just low tech SEAD, if you want to get fancy you can just blind the lasers by firing a different frequency laser at them, bait them with chaff/whatever else tricks their tracking, exhaust their energy reserves via sustained cheap drone spam...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I love that so many here love murder as much as i do.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Frick yeah, Muv-Luv thread, let's see what's happeni-
      >OP poses the laser question but explains basically nothing about how they work or how the BETA are supposed to operate
      >Nothing about BETA tactics either
      >Instead a bunch of whack answers that are being shot down by lore autists while people argue over how they're actually legit
      Well... to at least benefit the discussion I'll elaborate a little bit
      The BETA rely on using utterly massive, for all intents and purposes "neverending" hordes of their varying strains, as I'm sure could be clear by your bog standard sci-fi bug race tropes. However, in terms of simply suppressing the BETA to "manageable" numbers, massive bombardment *can* work, but there are underlying issues with actually managing to do anything to strategically win against the BETA.
      It wasn't explained here, but is made very clear in the Visual Novels that inside the Hive's "stab" (their term for the underground caves carved out by BETA), that wireless communication is severely, almost completely reduced outside of direct line-of-sight. Furthermore, the BETA are extremely quick to replace their losses when it comes to the Hive infiltrations seen within the VNs. Digging out of the floor in mass waves and such. In the case of the Fortress-Class too, it isn't mentioned in the infographic that usually such "smaller BETA" are laser-classes, however this can become a major tactical issue for humans, as demonstrated again, in the VN

      >Smoke arty
      They actually do this a LOT as one of their main swarm weapons against the BETA. Coat shells and rockets with heavy metals in such a way that when hit and destroyed by a laser, they disperse a cloud of heavy metal particulate that is said to do good in reducing the effective range of lasers. It's the first step for any anti-BETA operation.
      >Blinding lasers
      They have blink reflexes... I'm sorry.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >blink reflexes against nanosecond-scale pulsed lasers
        I am always surprised by how often high stakes anime is terribly boring: there is a vague scenario open to thousands of possible interpretations and creative solutions, but then more and more absurd counters are introduced to rule out anything that's not O My Deus Ex Machina.
        Reminds me of 40k and its eternal Emprah vs Chaos wankery.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          But another question is getting the vector vehicle to beam laser-class there in the first place without it getting locked onto long before it's within range.
          Also how are you going to be able to damage enough lasers, and specifically the much more threatening heavy lasers in enough time, from far enough away, that their lasers are rendered defunct, again without significant losses to your own? Their list of anti-laser targets was simple at first but iirc is said to be way more complex in certain situations due to experience with other operations up until the VNs.
          Something that OP should've mentioned is their targeting system locks targets to 380km at 10,000 meters in elevation for the smaller laser classes, 30km is more so the range at which it is hypothetically impossible to avoid them, necessitating the use of anti-laser warheads as I mentioned in the first post.
          Still though, the laser systems you speak of, if they were hypothetically able to deal with both the small and heavy classes of laser, at a distance or with enough numbers that they can cull a decent amount of them out of the total horde, you still have to actually take and capture the Hives, which again OP didn't mention at all, and is going to be spewing out BETA as long as it is unclaimed. The Destroyer classes literally crawling all over the walls would make an operation by armored vehicles hellish.
          >Comparing Muv-Luv to 40K
          I guess for one side...? Humanity sure as shit is not doing well.

          You're complaining about "muh Deus Ex Machina", but humanity, even with the super-bunnyhop jet mecha, is consistently losing territory without gaining.

          lasers
          >They have blink reflexes... I'm sorry.
          Why cant you use that as a sort of laser jammer then, you lase first, they blink shut, and you just leave the laser on, preventing them from shooting as long as you can hold LOS and keep the laser running?

          Outside of getting lased by another individual in the swarm, this might work? OP also failed to mention that BETA will adapt to new tactics and tricks in around 9+ hours, globally.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            OP here
            Imagine how long my post would have to be to include everything about the BETA's numbers, tactics, insertion methods, bases of operation etc.
            less text typically generates more responses, I only talked about flight to combat the most obvious solution (massed strategic bombing)
            Also, the BETA do not adapt to new tactics without a certain prod in the right direction that we should assume is not going to happen in this scenario.

            Pshh, just put on a BETA costume, infiltrate the main hive and make your way to the Superior.

            Recall that even out of literal psychics, only 10% were able to survive Hive insertion

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You argue like a homosexual, I understand that a jap made a porn game with a "just so" story and enemy to force them to have robots piloted by teenagers. I get it. You need to get that in reality the bugs would need energy and a lasing medium to generate lasers. If they shoot down dozens of shitty arty shells fired from shit barrels we don't car about and which we can make more of then they have bugs, and which we don't even bother aiming they will deplete either their reserves of energy used to excite the lasing medium or the medium itself will degrade. Then hey don't have the lasers anymore. If they start holding off then we start aiming and mixing in actual shells with munitions on them with the expendable rounds. Same with spamming shit drones. The point is the deplete the only advantage they have. Every other unit is so weak shit that it doesn't even constitute a threat to a real army with the doctrine and weapons to counter it. Every man now has an RPG, now most of the heavies which seem to bee relying on hardness to protect themselves are killed by a lowly infantry man. Little ones get cut down by shrapnel from the RPGs, crew served weapons, and the IFVs which accompany the platoon mostly to carry the ridiculous amount of ammo they will be using. Assuming they even make it since as soon as their lasers are depleted they will be blown to shit.

            I read the wiki the BETA like every other fictional alien threat is in fact, weak. And if they existed they would deserve to ground into the dust for the crime of being weak.

            >you still have to actually take and capture the Hives
            No I don't, 60Mt nuclear shaped charge shoved in the entrance, even the russian hack job from the 70s was supposed to be able to accelerate a 1 ton plug of copper up to 0.2C. The hive is now a crater. Everything inside is dead. And I can keep pumping out those weapons indefinitely. One wasn't enough? I use a hundred. Playing fair is for suckers.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Big wall of text, whining about reality in a porn game with bunnyhopping mecha and psychics, whining about not being able to apply muh real world logic to said porn game. What a waste of your time.

              https://i.imgur.com/ClfvSTf.png

              I launch nuclear pulse propulsion spacecraft. They collect NEOs, we use nuclear charges to properly size the NEOS. We drop the NEOs on the hives. Hives are now gone. Clean up.

              I like this idea, but what of environmental impact? I guess what would be best is trying to optimize the size of whatever object you're throwing in order to minimize the ash and dust thrown all over the place. Honestly I kind of believe the limit on nukes in the world set by other nations is utterly moronic and the US was right for eventually using a nuke on a hive. Not only that but the following infiltration was a success. The complaints of tainting the land or whatever don't seem completely well founded.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >russian hack job from the 70s was supposed to be able to accelerate a 1 ton plug of copper up to 0.2C
              jesus H christ

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I launch nuclear pulse propulsion spacecraft. They collect NEOs, we use nuclear charges to properly size the NEOS. We drop the NEOs on the hives. Hives are now gone. Clean up.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lasers
        >They have blink reflexes... I'm sorry.
        Why cant you use that as a sort of laser jammer then, you lase first, they blink shut, and you just leave the laser on, preventing them from shooting as long as you can hold LOS and keep the laser running?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Damn, I've still gotta read the day after.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >They actually do this a LOT as one of their main swarm weapons against the BETA. Coat shells and rockets with heavy metals in such a way that when hit and destroyed by a laser, they disperse a cloud of heavy metal particulate that is said to do good in reducing the effective range of lasers. It's the first step for any anti-BETA operation.
        You know that puts incredibly low upper limits on beam strength, right?

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Easy nuke them along with the chink once they land at Kashgar. Get their fantasy element and begin to work on susanoo and get back the moon, mars and the rest of the solar system. Everything bad in muvluv happened because the chink were dumb commie.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Pinpoint target at sixty miles
    >But if it goes a quarter mile up it's invincible

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >can target 30km horizontally
      >can't target 11km vertically
      How does this get explained?

      I was about to argue shitty elevation possibly because of a long and unwieldy laser chamber, then I ran the math and realized that a target flying at 500m height and 100km of distance is barely above the horizon for that thing, so the whole thing is silly.

      [...]
      [...]
      [...]
      >thinking drones will work
      Congratulations you just wasted thousands of man hours and resources and you didn't even cause any damage to them. Laser classes can fire 38km and heavy lasers 100km.
      >500 meters
      Do note that this is a translation error, that's the 100% hit zone. You fly lower and the regular lasers take care of you, heavy lasers are anti ICBM/orbital strike units.
      >smoke
      Useless. You need heavy metals to diffuse the beam enough for heavily armored TSF's to even get close, which fricks coms badly. You have to fly less than 15 meters and that puts you into grappler range.
      >laser class
      Hundreds, up to 2000 depending on swarm size, and their ROF is more than enough to cause divisions worth of artillery to melt their tubes with minimal damage. TSF's have two tactics.
      >leapfrog kiting
      They essentially cause a swarm to chase them into minefields, tank fire, or TSF ambush.
      >laserjager
      This requires conventional units to act as bait while TSF's sprint in and kill lasers in CQC, while dancing between BETA to exploit their refusal to fratocide, and then use artillery to mop up the rest. If it works it's extremely effective, but if dosen't then it's very casualty intensive.
      >MuvLuv
      Shows the commies as backstabbing morons, the Japanese as inflexible morons, and the United States as the only sensible faction, and thus everyone hates them.

      >uuuh achshually it's a translation error, my super duper anime lasers can shoot down ICBMs and you're stupid for not realizing that!
      Touch grass, I beg you.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >they can't shoot down icbm's
        >humanity never uses them even though they'd be effective
        How does lead paint taste?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >post fictional scenario
          >anons discuss the scenario as posted
          >get mad because anons didn't discuss the "correct" scenario you didn't post, therefore underestimating the true threat of some fictional creatures in a visual novel with tentacle porn
          Dangerous levels of autism, even for anime powerlevel gays.

          Elevation wouldn't even be an issue since you can just stand on a slope to gain extra degrees.
          >Oh no a high flying aircraft!!
          Just lie down homie

          It's a 21 meter tall, top-heavy c**t, and it's standing on two thin legs: I wouldn't try anything with slopes.
          That said, if that's the design you have to work with why the frick would you also constrain it with shit elevation, ayy lmao engies pls.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >correct
            >information is wrong
            It must be hard being this dumb.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >expecting people to know by memory the "correct" fictional information pertinent to your favourite chinese cartoon
              I shiggy diggy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Elevation wouldn't even be an issue since you can just stand on a slope to gain extra degrees.
        >Oh no a high flying aircraft!!
        Just lie down homie

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >post fictional scenario
        >anons discuss the scenario as posted
        >get mad because anons didn't discuss the "correct" scenario you didn't post, therefore underestimating the true threat of some fictional creatures in a visual novel with tentacle porn
        Dangerous levels of autism, even for anime powerlevel gays.

        [...]
        It's a 21 meter tall, top-heavy c**t, and it's standing on two thin legs: I wouldn't try anything with slopes.
        That said, if that's the design you have to work with why the frick would you also constrain it with shit elevation, ayy lmao engies pls.

        >expecting people to know by memory the "correct" fictional information pertinent to your favourite chinese cartoon
        I shiggy diggy

        What you must keep in mind is that what the BETA would be physically capable of and what they choose to actually do are two different sets of parameters.
        Thus it can be true that, if the BETA had the inclination to shoot higher-up targets, they could, but the idea never occurs to them for reasons that would qualify as a spoiler.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Just spoiler it anon

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            /k/ does not have spoiler tags

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Just spoiler it anon

              [...]
              [...]
              What you must keep in mind is that what the BETA would be physically capable of and what they choose to actually do are two different sets of parameters.
              Thus it can be true that, if the BETA had the inclination to shoot higher-up targets, they could, but the idea never occurs to them for reasons that would qualify as a spoiler.

              I dont think anyone on the gun forum gives a shit about anime spoilers.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/Hf9GEvU.png

                my man, it's been 20 years since alternative released.

                I once saw someone give a spoiler warning before talking about a passage from the Bible and frankly I appreciate the commitment there
                Anyway, I was referring to the fact that the BETA do not comprehend that they are at war. They perceive all life on Earth and all of our weapons as essentially an ongoing natural disaster that they have to work around. Wiping us out is thus not a priority, just a byproduct, and it follows that they are not totally optimised in terms of crushing us militarily in the most efficient possible manner. This changes late in the game due to a side-effect of Alternative IV, the fourth plan to bring the war to an end by means other than killing every BETA on Earth since that seems increasingly unlikely as the decades roll on.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              my man, it's been 20 years since alternative released.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                20 since Extra and Unlimited. Alt released in 2006, three years later.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                My bad, i just took google at it's word when i looked it up. But still, 17 years... Don't think anybody needs to worry about spoilers.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You can't be serious.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Anon... the anniversary was literally two weeks ago... February 28th, 2003

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Mohs scale
    Lol, mohs is shorthand for children, and hardness is only one small part of what determines durability. Holy shit Japs are moronic.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >can target 30km horizontally
    >can't target 11km vertically
    How does this get explained?

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Poison and gas them. Anime logic doesn't apply to RL.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    moar balloon breasts.
    moar rape.
    That'll do it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Stasimouto cuddles before babymaking Stasimouto fugging!

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >lasers never ever hit Allies
    >nuclear_perfidy_intensifies.jpg

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      So if we cut off the little bugs arms with chainsaws and mount them our hoods like deer the pewpew bugs won't shoot at us while they are alive. We that's one way to make applique armor I guess.

      Unfortunately for them I care very little for the roombas I sent to their demise to determine their location and use up their volley before shelling them with 20 kiloton shells and EFP carried by thousands of cluster munitions, which I will put in every field gun. Because aliens can't complain about inhumane modes of warfare.

      Either go big or go home, they want to mine this planet into a slag heap? Not if I do it first.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    aren't all the BETA organisms not even soldier-class?

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    if it can hit 30km away, why can't it hit 30km straight up?
    it's a fricken laser

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Pshh, just put on a BETA costume, infiltrate the main hive and make your way to the Superior.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sitll waiting for translations, especially for War Ensemble.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I summon SCP-682 and pray the powerlevel autism incinerates this gay planet.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >682
      Wasn't that the angry immortal crocodile or whatever? Or is he a reference to something more well-known I just don't get?

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    An anon here mentioned that there's a mobile game where the BETA invade the modern day, so humanity counters with just the tech we have.
    Is that true, lore autists?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That was Strike Frontier, the second failed gacha game. There was a third, Immortals that no shit died within 8 hours of launching. Muv Luv is cursed.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Stasimouto lever!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks anon.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I got a better question OP.
    How come the pilot suit is tine enough where you can see the navel outline, but not the nipples?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because the ESRB rating said so. Muv Luv is all-ages now, y'know. Also people don't have erect nipples 24/7 anyways.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They don't have to be erect to see the outline of them if the suit is skintight enough to show a navel outline dumbass.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    frick planes
    frick tactical surface fighters
    frick tanks
    it is the time of helicopter supremacy

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't there an alt-timeline where the Beta arrive in 2004 and get cleaned up with no issue?

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Are we doing waifu sexo posting now or what?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Made for getting CHOMPED

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Phamu is made for seeding and breeding!

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Chewy Yui time!

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    sm is trash

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why not use mirrors?

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Biological weapons, all you'd need is a cell sample.

    t. never read Muv Luv.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Effective against targets of up to 10km high
    lmao, can't even shoot down WW2 tech.

    More to the point, what is the tactical advantage of erect nipples in skin tight bodysuits?

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I would start by providing every Swedish pilot with a Nepalese manlet gf. And if that didn't work just use artillery and landmines.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >but the thick Swedish woman and the manlet Nepalese woman together in every shot together
        The animators knew what they were doing

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So how's the porn?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You have to ask?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah loads of series have hot designs and abysmal porn.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are you into gore/snuff?

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    literally just hundreds of billions of aliexpress tier drones. they can't cum on all of us
    also nooks

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