Real Medieval fire arrows were insane

Apparently these were one of the earliest cases of chemical warfare being used in Europe
They would put a compound similar to gunpowder on the end of an arrow and cover it with resin to make it waterproof that would burn very slowly but couldnt be put out easily
In the compound they put arsenic in it which freely vaporized into a blistering gas (similar to mustard gas)
When they shot them in sieges they would go through windows or into streets causing people to be suffocated by the gas and smoke

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Probably a meme weapon considering ive never heard of it. Similar to the Hwacha in terms of meme.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Probably a meme weapon
      anon you literally cant possibly think of a less overrated medieval weapon than firearrows
      in every single medieval movie without fail fire arrows are there
      the only difference is that real fire arrows looked like this, and theres plenty of manuscripts telling you how they're made
      adding arsenic to it likely wasnt intentionally done as chemical warfare initially but people just found out that adding it created really nasty smoke
      tod's workshop is the one who did a video on this and brought things to light

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        a more overrated*

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        also, heres the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNCU4WndtYk

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yurop shooting annoying smoke bombs at each other while 500 years before that the Chinese had mobile batteries that fired dozens of actual incendiary arrows and rockets at a time, bombs, hand cannons, infantry flamethrowers, crew served wagons with flames and cannons mounted on them and ALSO smoke bombs (in different colors for funsies).
    It is to laugh. Ha ha

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Funny how china had all the time advantage in the world but couldn't innovate or develop the technology at all, and ended up getting assured so hard you guys literally have an entire period of history called the century of humiliation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Listen chud, its not china's fault. They couldnt innovate cause they were too busy fighting the northern barbarians and growing funny pigtails

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >couldn't innovate or develop the technology at all
        Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Because rockets, guns, cannon and bombs aren't technology they're just stuff that grows on trees.
        Don't feel bad that China hit peak society several times in several thousand years while Europe's 'kings and queens' were living in stone hovels with straw on the floor and livestock shitting in their basements

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Because rockets, guns, cannon and bombs aren't technology they're just stuff that grows on trees.

          What did I say? They couldn't develop or innovate it. When you get gunpowder, like the first thing you do is make crude rockets and cannon type things with it. Chinks never developed wheellock firearms, let alone rifling, flintlock, breechloading guns, etc. It's honestly embarrassing that China had such a massive advantage and fumbled it so hard.

          >peak society while europeans are living in stone hovels
          >have gunpowder, canons, rockets
          >massive population
          >advanced bueracratic system of government
          >literally do nothing with any of this- don't colonize the americas, don't develop your technology, get rolled and humiliated repeatedly by europeans

          pathetic

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Han Chinese were so bad at fighting that literal iron age illiterate barbarians living in fur huts were able to do more with their own technology after stealing it off their corpses than they were.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              lololo Literally everything in that image is advanced Chinese materials and craftsmanship. Let's talk about the arms and armor- the pikes are tempered spring steel, the armor is steel lamellar plates and layers of leather, silk and cotton, the helmets are articulated with mail coifs etc etc.
              The Mongorians never wore or carried anything even close to it. They won by kicking over a dead-tree emperor and squatting in the empty hole
              as to being "conquered" by the Northerners?
              Here's the first Mongol king of China. you tell me which culture was a more dominating influence, and then tell me why 1.3 billion people speak Chinese today and almost zero speak Mongorian

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, just tell me how much of your blood is mongolian first.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the pikes are tempered spring steel
                No one ever made pikes out of spring steel you moron.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yurop shooting annoying smoke bombs at each other while 500 years before that the Chinese had mobile batteries that fired dozens of actual incendiary arrows and rockets at a time, bombs, hand cannons, infantry flamethrowers, crew served wagons with flames and cannons mounted on them and ALSO smoke bombs (in different colors for funsies).
          It is to laugh. Ha ha

          Reminder the Han spent the majority of the last 1200 years alternately starving and being genocide raped by foreigners.
          Via genetic testing, it's clear they're the most raped and most regularly malnourished race that strides the earth today.
          China's greatest ages were the times in which the previous rape hordes installed themselves as rulers.

          China has not defeated a foreign army in 500 years.

          Your history is one of ever increasing adaptation to licking the heels of foreigners.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Chinese have been eating eggs soaked in little-boy piss for a thousand years.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            piss eggs were rare and "medicinal"

            pickled eggs we produce by the score however
            they taste good, don't let the colour fool ya
            Hong Kong is well known for their pickled eggs especially
            you can ask for milder tasting varieties

            >medieval
            Most of China's recorded history would have looked like the High or Late Rennaisance, not medieval. They were done with that shit after the Han cleaned house.
            They didn't progress, absolutely true, because there was very little reason to until it was too late; they could have the best of everything just with cheap labor and universal education. It's no accident that the "East" is portrayed as a magical place stuffed full of wonders and treasures in 1001 Nights and so on
            [...]
            >eggs soaked
            If they taste good, why not? Europeans collected human urine to use as laundry bleach until well into the 1800s. If it works people do it

            >Europeans collected human urine to use as laundry bleach
            bleaching laundry with it and eating it is two different things
            however, it's also true that Europeans used urine in all kinds of alleged medical cures.

            >medieval
            Most of China's recorded history would have looked like the High or Late Rennaisance, not medieval. They were done with that shit after the Han cleaned house.
            They didn't progress, absolutely true, because there was very little reason to until it was too late; they could have the best of everything just with cheap labor and universal education. It's no accident that the "East" is portrayed as a magical place stuffed full of wonders and treasures in 1001 Nights and so on
            [...]
            >eggs soaked
            If they taste good, why not? Europeans collected human urine to use as laundry bleach until well into the 1800s. If it works people do it

            >Most of China's recorded history would have looked like the High or Late Rennaisance, not medieval
            1-800-COME-NOW.jpg

            They didn't drink it, they pickled eggs in it.
            It was prescribed as medicine, as well as horse andbuffalo urine, bosth in China and in Europe
            [...]
            >far more reliant on cereal grains for all of their meals while europeans had a diverse diet even in the middle of the medieval period
            lmao even lol, Europeans lived on peas and onions and grains when they get them, living standards were dismal literally everywhere outside major cities.
            [...]
            >what set the medieval period and the rennaisance apart was living standards
            oh dear god you're Shadgay aren't you? Sorry for your lots. please read some genuine history to clear the worms out of your brain. The transition from medieval to Renaissance was 100% down to leaps of progess in arts and education and industry, not living standards

            >living standards were dismal literally everywhere outside major cities
            no
            studies of records from English manors around the 14-15th century show that European peasants were consuming roughly 50% grains, 25% vegetables, and 25% meat and cheese, with the meat portion growing over time
            which is coincidentally a pretty ideal diet
            there has been a tendency to exaggerate the privations of peasant food but anybody who's actually done it knows that chickens are extremely easy to raise, and pigs too, and you will soon have plenty of protein from eggs and culling the flock.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >piss eggs were rare and "medicinal"
              Sure they were. Sure.
              >Were
              sure, sure.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >thththey're commonly found MMKAY
                may we see it?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                May we see your gun, outsider?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ah yes, the last resort of the in/k/ompetent
                I accept your concession

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nogun loses to everything, outsider. I'm sure you'll find your way back to a site more your speed.

                Chinks love to drink little boy piss confirmed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Nogun loses to everything
                only in the minds of obese Black person-brained 4chuds cuddling their gacha collection

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >who's actually done it knows that chickens are extremely easy to raise
              Nah. Then chicken were premium food because of the low productivity .

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Modern society demands higher productivity nowadays because we demand that only about 1-2% of our workforce grow food for everyone else; that wasn't the case in medieval society

                you can get a 5lb roaster in 20 weeks even with heritage breeds, and without much expenditure of energy other than feeding, raking, collecting eggs, and fencing them up so falcons and foxes don't get at them, or rats at their eggs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >pic
                man crazy what happened to americans

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what the frick is "man crazy"?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's not the same chicken

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Being medieval in the 1st century AD doesn't amount to much when you're still there by the 1700s.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >medieval
            Most of China's recorded history would have looked like the High or Late Rennaisance, not medieval. They were done with that shit after the Han cleaned house.
            They didn't progress, absolutely true, because there was very little reason to until it was too late; they could have the best of everything just with cheap labor and universal education. It's no accident that the "East" is portrayed as a magical place stuffed full of wonders and treasures in 1001 Nights and so on

            The Chinese have been eating eggs soaked in little-boy piss for a thousand years.

            >eggs soaked
            If they taste good, why not? Europeans collected human urine to use as laundry bleach until well into the 1800s. If it works people do it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >looked like the High or Late Rennaisance
              where are you pulling this out of your ass from?
              do you think just having a bunch of art makes you in the rennaisance? medieval europe had more than enough developments in art
              what set the medieval period and the rennaisance apart was living standards
              in your chinese "rennaisance" the average peasant was living in mud houses with thatch roofs that disappeared by the late medieval period
              not to mention the fact that the population of china would've been much, much more composed of farmers with fewer craftsmen, and the population was far more reliant on cereal grains for all of their meals while europeans had a diverse diet even in the middle of the medieval period

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Europeans collected human urine to use as laundry bleach until well into the 1800s.
              >china drank what europeans used for bleach for thousands of years
              that explains a lot actually, thank you

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They didn't drink it, they pickled eggs in it.
                It was prescribed as medicine, as well as horse andbuffalo urine, bosth in China and in Europe

                https://i.imgur.com/uXoXmjc.jpeg

                >looked like the High or Late Rennaisance
                where are you pulling this out of your ass from?
                do you think just having a bunch of art makes you in the rennaisance? medieval europe had more than enough developments in art
                what set the medieval period and the rennaisance apart was living standards
                in your chinese "rennaisance" the average peasant was living in mud houses with thatch roofs that disappeared by the late medieval period
                not to mention the fact that the population of china would've been much, much more composed of farmers with fewer craftsmen, and the population was far more reliant on cereal grains for all of their meals while europeans had a diverse diet even in the middle of the medieval period

                >far more reliant on cereal grains for all of their meals while europeans had a diverse diet even in the middle of the medieval period
                lmao even lol, Europeans lived on peas and onions and grains when they get them, living standards were dismal literally everywhere outside major cities.

                https://i.imgur.com/uXoXmjc.jpeg

                >looked like the High or Late Rennaisance
                where are you pulling this out of your ass from?
                do you think just having a bunch of art makes you in the rennaisance? medieval europe had more than enough developments in art
                what set the medieval period and the rennaisance apart was living standards
                in your chinese "rennaisance" the average peasant was living in mud houses with thatch roofs that disappeared by the late medieval period
                not to mention the fact that the population of china would've been much, much more composed of farmers with fewer craftsmen, and the population was far more reliant on cereal grains for all of their meals while europeans had a diverse diet even in the middle of the medieval period

                >what set the medieval period and the rennaisance apart was living standards
                oh dear god you're Shadgay aren't you? Sorry for your lots. please read some genuine history to clear the worms out of your brain. The transition from medieval to Renaissance was 100% down to leaps of progess in arts and education and industry, not living standards

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Shadgay
                nice strawman
                i think the only thing i agree with you is how little i can stand his autistic drivel
                >Europeans lived on peas and onions and grains when they get them
                yea, shit you can actually cook into edible meals instead of
                "honey whats for dinner tonight?" "boiled rice"
                >The transition from medieval to Renaissance was 100% down to leaps of progess in arts and education and industry
                thats a subjective opinion
                yes, industry got better in the renaissance, and quality education became more widespread, however the medieval period had far more meaningful advances in architecture, development of new institutions, and the creation of new ways to express art
                the renaissance didnt really add anything new in terms of art, just something different
                the printing press was the cornerstone of the renaissance, sure, but the lack of it made the learning and teaching of works all that more important to those who could

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >printing press
                China was wood block printing literature by 600AD and had movable type presses around the 12th c, when they invented printed currency

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Me play joke

                Me go pp in ur coke

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >If they taste good, why not?
              Post your gun bugman.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I always chuckle when he puts his guard up for a second to defend against his own fists.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >medieval
            Most of China's recorded history would have looked like the High or Late Rennaisance, not medieval. They were done with that shit after the Han cleaned house.
            They didn't progress, absolutely true, because there was very little reason to until it was too late; they could have the best of everything just with cheap labor and universal education. It's no accident that the "East" is portrayed as a magical place stuffed full of wonders and treasures in 1001 Nights and so on
            [...]
            >eggs soaked
            If they taste good, why not? Europeans collected human urine to use as laundry bleach until well into the 1800s. If it works people do it

            Europe was already overtaking China by the High Middle Ages.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Yurop shooting annoying smoke bombs at each other while 500 years before that the Chinese had mobile batteries that fired dozens of actual incendiary arrows and rockets at a time, bombs, hand cannons, infantry flamethrowers, crew served wagons with flames and cannons mounted on them and ALSO smoke bombs
      Europe = beat Mongols
      China = lost to Mongols

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >they put arsenic in it
    historical source?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      see

      also, heres the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNCU4WndtYk

      he names a few manuscripts in the video and its in one of them
      it doesnt sound like it was a common or respected practice to put arsenic in them, but they knew that it was dangerous

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not exactly medieval, it's 15th century recipes when they started add saltpeter. Very late medieval. Most of the period that didn't had that hard burn saltpeter arrows.

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