RCH155

35 of these things are going to see combat just after their production line is finished later this year most likely.
How will fire on the move capability impact the future of artillery? Will it lead to the extinction of shoot&scoot?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mount that turret deep in the hull of a tracked vehicle. Suddenly, the tank is saved.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope to see them destroyed cause they’re the most atrocious looking fighting vehicle I’ve ever seen

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like how goofy they look. If they can just roll around and evade radars endlessly to the seethe of many I think they'll earn the right to look like that too.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hope to see them destroyed cause they’re the most atrocious looking fighting vehicle I’ve ever seen

        https://i.imgur.com/v8hAtxX.jpg

        35 of these things are going to see combat just after their production line is finished later this year most likely.
        How will fire on the move capability impact the future of artillery? Will it lead to the extinction of shoot&scoot?

        I tried

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            dumb frogposter

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/RnAB3xr.jpg

          dumb frogposter

          Same person btw

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      right? it's a shed with a pipe sticking out of it that was slapped on top a doorstop

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >destroyed
      Bro it's German so you can bet they'll forget to produce spare parts and these things will be indefinitely gathering dust in a repair depot in Latvia after a week of service in Ukraine.

      Probably.
      Give Europe time to up 155m ammo production, some time to produce more of these and they can probably just evade 99.99% of Russian attacks no difficulty. It should only need to stop to pick up new shells or fuel, or the odd maintenance.
      So, in case it doesn't get stuck it might practically be the king of the European Plain.

      >Give Europe time to up 155m ammo production,
      They've had two fricking years and they still need Czechs to scavenge for leftover ammo across the globe.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesnt like box turret tanks
      Your shit taste is showing.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How will fire on the move capability impact the future of artillery?
    Nothingburger.
    >Will it lead to the extinction of shoot&scoot?
    No.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong on both

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are a Black person.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, I am your father.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd imagine round detectors could just plot out the rounds it fires while moving to figure out a rough heading and speed. Sure the crew could stop and start at will but stopping is exactly what it's trying to avoid.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh this isn’t a math problem with cylindrical cows. You are assuming that they are going to be on a straight, infinitely long road with no traffic or stop signs and that will get them found when it took them more than a year to find even a single himars

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Crew: 2

    Given recruitment issues these may become very popular.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably.
      Give Europe time to up 155m ammo production, some time to produce more of these and they can probably just evade 99.99% of Russian attacks no difficulty. It should only need to stop to pick up new shells or fuel, or the odd maintenance.
      So, in case it doesn't get stuck it might practically be the king of the European Plain.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There are already autonomous function being implemented. The tracked version is supposed to be something akin to a fire and forget barrage machine

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine pairing it with autonomous targeting drones

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The endgame are AI controlled vehicles which drive and shoot all day

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    35 is an absurdly low number. Actually Ukraine’s military budget NOT counting aid money is $44 billion. If you include aid money that’s more than France’s budget. Their navy is RC boats and a few patrol vessels and their air force is both very limited and not very active. Most of their combat vehicles are gifted to them or restored. They do make a lot of FPV drones but those are largely supplied by very extensive volunteer networks. So…..what exactly are they spending the money on? Are there a ton of industrial programs being set up right now that’s eating all that budget?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >35 is an absurdly low number.
      The production line for these things is literally being built as they're being made. It's a low number cause it's right out of the gate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Are there a ton of industrial programs being set up right now that’s eating all that budget?
      Also yes, they're planning to set up a lot of production with western arms companies for IFVs, new-gen tanks and air defense systems.
      https://www.rheinmetall.com/en/media/news-watch/news/2024/02/2024-02-19-joint-venture-in-the-ukraine

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what exactly are they spending the money on?
      the possibility that the budget may be temporary
      >that’s more than France’s budget
      France isn't at war
      wartime consumption is orders of magnitude above peacetime

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not counting aid money $44bln
      Anon, that’s 25% of their pre war GDP. That number is not sustainable.
      >without aid money
      lol, lmao

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait to see the krauts seethe when K9 gets selected by the US.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Obsolete junk already outperformed by scooters like Caesar, let alone state of the art revolutions like RCH-155

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Obsolete junk already outperformed by scooters like Caesar
        In what sense? Caesar is unprotected and always will be a meme as proven in Ukraine.
        >RCH-155
        The piece of junk that didn't even show on the battlefield lol. Also, I'd rather order Zuzana for the same price.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The piece of junk that didn't even show on the battlefield lol. Also, I'd rather order Zuzana for the same price
          What part of "production line is in production" don't you get, asiaticshill?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >soon™
            Good luck fighting with your vaporware weapon.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >In what sense? Caesar is unprotected and always will be a meme as proven in Ukraine.
          Such a meme Ukraine is getting 78 more.
          Strangely enough we don't see worst Korea send K-9s to Ukraine.
          What are worst Koreans afraid of? Go on, send Ukraine K-9s. I'm sure they will beat the Russians all by themselves.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Worst Korea is unironically scared as shit of Best Korea and Russia. They can't even sell 155mm shells openly but have to go through some backdoor deals where Canada buys the shells but the shells stay in Canada and instead old Canadian stocks are sent to Ukraine.
            Meanwhile Kim just ships 3mil shells to Russia.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Strangely enough we don't see worst Korea send K-9s to Ukraine.
            Krab is more or less the same thing as K9 since they have the same chassis and reload mechanism. There is no other SPG in the west that has been more widely seen in Ukraine than Krabs.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >There is no other SPG in the west that has been more widely seen in Ukraine than Krabs.
              That's not how you spell M109 or Caesar.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm starting to worry about M109 though.
                They are losing fewer now, but there were a few months when they lost one like every week.
                In terms of tubes on the field, I get the impression that 2S22 Bogdana production has this covered.
                But enclosed gun houses... surely that adds responsiveness to a defense operation?
                Last I heard of M109 delivery was the "L" refurbs from Italy, last year.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >M109
                >Caesar
                >implying they can seriously compete with Krab
                Polish supremacy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Krab has a much higher loss ratio than everything else. Caesar is the lowest and it also has a steady and growing production.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Krab has a much higher loss ratio than everything else.
                User issues. Also, they've seen uses in more dangerous parts of the war.
                >Caesar is the lowest and it also has a steady and growing production.
                A glorified technical is still a technical. It cannot and will not replace full fledged SPGs with tracks.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just because you complain about wheels doesn't mean your repackaged asiaticslop will in any way become definitive.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                Fricking hell ,poles are actually delusional.

                FYI, Ukies prefer Krabs to Pzh2000 because it's less of a maintenance hell.
                https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/12/22/two-thirds-of-german-pzh-2000-self-propelled-howitzers-are-unusable/

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >PT-91
                Why do we not see them in use?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                we have; Oryx counts 7 destroyed or disabled

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Krab has a much higher loss ratio than everything else.
              User issues. Also, they've seen uses in more dangerous parts of the war.
              >Caesar is the lowest and it also has a steady and growing production.
              A glorified technical is still a technical. It cannot and will not replace full fledged SPGs with tracks.

              Fricking hell ,poles are actually delusional.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the us isn't going to buy a foreign howitzer. if you've got some good components, maybe we'll license them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >M777
        They will absolutely for specialist stuff. But you're right, not for their mainstay.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the us isn't going to buy a foreign howitzer
        >M777
        >M109
        >M252
        >M327
        >M120/M121

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They ain't buying korean mass produced trash.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thinks its cool, its got a l/52 gun. Dont know about how many rounds that thing can hold but I hope to see more arty using the higher caliber gun.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Transmission destroyed after 100 shots, this thing is complete shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Source?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Source: common sense. Everything German build after cold war is an over engineered show piece. Like ukies said, leopard 1 is built for war, leopard 2 is build for parades.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not an argument. RCH155 can and will btfo Pzh2000, K9, Archer, etcetera

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am sure that you are an authority on the field of post-coldwar german arms and can substitute your claims by providing credible sources that amount to more than
          >muh common sense XDDDD

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >post-coldwar german arms

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              How does this relate to your argument that german post-coldwar weapon systems are overcomplicated?
              The Leopard 2 is from 1978 and a cold war vehicle with little changes to the maintenance procedure over the years.
              Now unrelated to that, how is it suprising that a complex weapon system which is to be used in high-intensity conflict and was delivered without adequate numbers of spare parts is going to be out of service for that exact reason?
              Also the fact that Ukrainians damaged some of these vehicles themselves instead of calling KMW/Rheinmetall for help.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This must be bait
          There aint no way any ukie thinks the leo 1 is better for war then the leo 2
          Also the leo 2 is a cold war design you mongoloid

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would shooting have any effect on the "transmission" (drivetrain component) you non-mechanic cretin? Try using terms you understand.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shock loading from the recoil while in motion. Unless it's only supposed to be fired at 90 degress from the direction of travel, in which case it's more of a wheel bearing concern.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are a big gun.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cobra did it better.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They'll get targeted by smart munitions, drones and area of effect (tunsten rain) weapons. Like what's happening in Ukraine as we speak.
    The only impact it'll have is that military action during night time will increase in hopes that its detection will be harder and slower in the dark.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russians don't have smart munitions or tungsten rain stuff though, not for counterbattery anyway

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't be so sure. They do have cluster munitions and are catching up pretty fast. 2 years in the war and Ukraine is already at disadvantage in the drone warfare.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine is already at disadvantage
          they wouldn't be if they could still draw freely on US resources

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    without shells useless

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's gonna get stuck in the mud isn't it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not anymore than the other SPAGs

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    asiaticshill, stfu.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it can fire while moving - but can it hit anything?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, as long as it uses the guided artillery rounds that cost 6 gorillion dollars a piece

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BTW tube arty in not only Ukraine but the West generally is fricked. That’s because there’s a massive nitrocellulose shortage. 50% of the world’s supply comes from China, and several months ago it was reported that China stopped making deliveries. At the time everyone assumed that China was doing a soft-embargo in support of Russia — but just a few days ago Russia announced (state-run MIC) is moving to a wood-pulp based replacement for nitrocellulose and wants to switch over to 90% of their production using that instead. That’s after some European companies are offering a similar alternative. So now I wonder if it’s simply that China itself has run out of it and sold everything they had to Russia and it isn’t enough OR they’re price gouging the Russians the frick out for it? It was reported that Russian imports from China of the stuff last year went up massively but maybe that came at a huge markup and that’s why China is now selling everything they have to them and don’t have any left for the rest of the world? If it was just a matter of supplementing what they’re getting from China they wouldn’t announce this move to wood-pulp replacing 90% of their needs. OR it’s just a bullshit announcement to force the Chinese suppliers to stop ripping them off? Interesting topic.

    Hey Australia — please stop shipping all your cotton hulls to China. If you have a Chinese 5th column keeping that going please get rid of it, thank you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Nitrating cellulose (plant cells) through exposure to a mixture of nitric acid and sulfuric acid
      You think this is going to run out? Are you moronic on purpose.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Guncotton replacement was already fiund by European MIC a month or two ago. It's a b***h but also a solveable problem.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what are they replacing it with?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You tell me.
          https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240302-europe-battles-powder-shortage-to-supply-shells-for-ukraine

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            thank frick somebody knows something about keeping quiet about war secrets

            Worst Korea is unironically scared as shit of Best Korea and Russia. They can't even sell 155mm shells openly but have to go through some backdoor deals where Canada buys the shells but the shells stay in Canada and instead old Canadian stocks are sent to Ukraine.
            Meanwhile Kim just ships 3mil shells to Russia.

            They're in a Berlin Wall situation with their capital city within artillery range. Nobody would draw down Fulda Gap warstocks either no matter what else happened elsewhere.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >what are they replacing it with?

          Wood pulp

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s solvable but nothing has been funded yet. Everything in the Act in Support of Ammunition Production (ASAP) is currently in the proposal phase.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly think this is a terrible idea and clearly was done for PR reasons alone. This thing is going to have a million teething issues that'll need years to be fixed. It would've been better for Ukraine if Germany had spent whatever 35 of these cost on 155mm shells and more second hand M109s instead.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They've already gotten plenty of testing. This is the field test, a priviledge not offered to a lot of modern gear.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do think Ukraine got bamboozled by a KMW into funding them. Maybe it was simply because everyone else in Europe wanted too much lead time stuck as they were in very low-capacity peacetime mode and other dumb barriers so KMW were the only ones both politically acceptable and willing to promise an aggressive-enough timeline? I wonder if they shouldn’t have set something more aggressive up with Eastern Europe like Zuzana, Krab, DITA, etc, which may have been easier to maintain something which Ukraine continually struggled with re high-end Western gear. But maybe it was really important for Ukraine at the time to show strong commitment to Western European allies?

      Ultimately, Biden’s should have used Lend-Lease to transfer 500+ Paladins and a few million shells for them when he had the chance. Not using Lend-Lease may end up being a war-losing mistake.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole point of sending weapons to Ukraine is to clear out old inventory and to test and advertise new designs. It wouldn't make any sense to put old designs back into production.

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