>Good morning jannie-general, private-jannie reporting for duty! >Excellent, we need you to take to the internet and clean it up >U-um, general, will I be getting paid? >Damnit jannie-private! Youre getting demoted! Now get to work, PICK.IT.UP!
They’re fighting on the streets and sewers of NYC, which just got confirmed for having polio down there. If there’s anyone that should be thanked for their service its those guys. Christ above the entire city was practically Chernobyl tier contaminated with shit like asbestos once the towers fell.
I expect the sanitation department to start issuing out MOPP gear now just for that. Every state trashman shall be roaming the streets in the woodland camo set just for aesthetics above ground and below to properly camouflage against Master Splinter and feral ghouls that reside there.
Personally I’m surprised it took this long. Up until very recently NYC was downright disgusting, nevermind events like the trashmen strike back in the 70’s.
OP pic's chief jannie actually has a 9/11 WTC campaign ribbon/medal, he literally had to clean up the rubble and probably has enough asbestos in him to make his grave a Superfund site.
I expect the sanitation department to start issuing out MOPP gear now just for that. Every state trashman shall be roaming the streets in the woodland camo set just for aesthetics above ground and below to properly camouflage against Master Splinter and feral ghouls that reside there.
OP pic's chief jannie actually has a 9/11 WTC campaign ribbon/medal, he literally had to clean up the rubble and probably has enough asbestos in him to make his grave a Superfund site.
>9/11 WTC campaign ribbon/medal
what a fricking hero. god bless him.
Street sanitation really began in New York City. They used to wear white uniforms, and sweep up the gutters all day long.
It's such an important job that it had to be invented in America.
Everyone on the planet including London uses in some way the NYC Dept of Sanitation methods. They invented the entire concept of a civic institution, not some street urchins forced to pull trash out of sewers (which were people's basements... no for real noble people in London just let shit sit in their basement, piss, shit, and garbage, under a wonderful home...).
I suppose I have to remind anyone that Verssailles literally does not have sanitation facilities at all, it was all piss buckets or the stairway.
That is what those uniformed NYC sanitation workers overcame.
The rest of the world, especially Slavs and Yuropoors, don't get it. The Japs do.
good post.
The uniforms came about in an effort to professionalize and bring pride to the sanitation workers. They also militarized it to reduce corruption, as the previous street urchins and criminal gangs that picked up trash were notorious for their shady dealings. Businesses would have to pay bribes to get their trash picked up on time, and political candidates could pay bribes to have the trash of their opponents searched for secrets and leverage.
Even today the Sanitation Department is serious business. You have to take an ASVAB-like qualification test and attend a little academy before they let you out on the streets, and apparently the competition to get in is fierce.
I had a neighbor when I lived on Manhattan who worked in the department. He was roughing it out for amazing benefits and most job injuries can be reassigned to desk work. I’m fairly certain he was some sort of plumber.
That's what near uncontrolled immigration does that to your city. In other countries they would either gave up and set up a new financial hub or just gave up trying
you’re moronic. London pioneered industrial urban sanitization and nowhere on the planet comes close. Even though London is a giant shithole it’s still 100x cleaner than New York and judging by the scenes in James Bond Live and Let Die it’s been that way for a good 50 years now. New York may have had a leg up in 1940-1960 but the end of segregation demanded it wasn’t going to last
You don’t even realize how different NYC is now compared to 50 years ago. The contrast is night and day. Look at Times Square then and now. Look at the trains that used to be covered in graffiti.
And yet, NYC still looks&smells like shit&piss respectively
I unironically respect sanitation workers ten fold more than the military. These guys literally ensure your city doesn't become a third world shithole like all the Europoor/slav nations.
At least one of those is a 9/11 WTC first responder ribbon. That jannie had to clean up the wreckage of the Twin Towers and probably inhaled enough asbestos for his lungs to be considered a Superfund site.
Also, the NYCDS has an Enforcement Division with armed LEOs enforcing sanitation laws. They even have their own Sanitation Police cars and a special K-9 unit.
>Also, the NYCDS has an Enforcement Division with armed LEOs enforcing sanitation laws. They even have their own Sanitation Police cars and a special K-9 unit. >no we don’t have an overpolicing problem in America
I mean this is unironically a big reason for the militarisation of the police. Every search warrant can turn into a shootout so might as well wear the body armour and carry the rifle
2 years ago
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have any /k/ tards actually worked in one of these orgs? I don't know, but I have a theory that they have to have units like that because if specialists are needed to accompany SWAT teams, they'd need to wear plates and be capable of self-defence
basically civvy combat engineers
2 years ago
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meanwhile you have places like Japan, which have incredibly strict gun laws, having their PM instagibbed by a dedicated kid with a homemade shotgun because they let their guard down. nevermind the other innocents victimized because they were assured the government would take care of them.
if people wish to commit violence, they're going to do it regardless of if you're prepared for them to do it or not, so you may as well have a fighting chance.
2 years ago
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Japan has one of the lowest murder rates in the world. 0.3 per 100k people. They let their guard down because they can afford to.
2 years ago
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Japan also has a well-documented history of covering up crime, an exceptionally high suicide rate, and the difference between its suicide rate and the OECD average is twice the difference between its official murder rate and the OECD average
coincidence? I think not
2 years ago
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There's also the problem of identifying the ctime itself. Is rape of a single person on a multiple time basis count as a single case of is the case registered every single time said person is raped? Is a misdemeanor and infraction count as a reportable cases? Things like bike theft and domestic abuse are treated as separate cases not included in Japan crime rate afaik
2 years ago
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>let your guard down >important politician gets frickin splattered by one of your own people
the lesson here?
2 years ago
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Japan also has a well-documented history of covering up crime, an exceptionally high suicide rate, and the difference between its suicide rate and the OECD average is twice the difference between its official murder rate and the OECD average
coincidence? I think not
Japanese crimes are notoriously under reported. Their cops are also lazy/shitty that they don't report crimes because they find it a pain to do paperwork. Or they give up on cases easily and also been payed/influence by other entities. Take Japanese crimes stats with a grain of salt.
2 years ago
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Japanese cops are also notorious for not taking cases that don't have a guaranteed conviction inorder to not hurt their near 100% conviction rate. They're also known to rule deaths as suicide or accidents without investigating so as to not raise the murder rate.
2 years ago
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>other entities
Mostly the Yakuza and right-wing political parties, which are often very closely intertwined. It's basically an open secret there, and as long as they keep the bloodiest stuff out of the public eye and don't unnecessarily involve innocent civilians, the cops ignore it. Well, at least they did before the late 90s, when a bunch of Yakuza killed some innocent people in broad daylight and there was a nationwide crackdown for a while IIRC.
i've always known that NASA has its own badged officers, but it's still really jarring to see pics of them in action.
2 years ago
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wtf is that AR setup
2 years ago
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i've always known that NASA has its own badged officers, but it's still really jarring to see pics of them in action.
wtf is that AR setup
Look at the neck, NASA is the federal agency that employs legit ayys. It's a space AR because ayys, shit probably fires lasers or something, the mag is probably a power cell.
>frick with Cape Canaveral >NASA SWAT shows up >its actual ayys with flying saucers and ray guns >you get vaporized like in Mars Attacks
Better watch what you say before the united states postal inspection service gets sic'd on you
A lot of it came from jurisdictional problems and a "I ain't enforcing it" attitude by local law enforcement of the time (especially sheriffs) when it came to state/federal laws and innumerable/difficult-to-enforce local codes. So, specialized law enforcement agencies sprung up to enforce all these laws, which if unenforced are meaningless and result in the issuing government losing their power/existence. I won't get into a long historical or philosophical discussion on the ethics of it, just putting out the practical reasons why.
tl;dr: The existing police refused to enforce specific laws, so special police agencies got set up to enforce them.
That's actually quite interesting from an outside perspective.
American federalism is hot garbage for many reasons but this is an aspect of it that I didn't consider. I've always considered it fricking stupid how American local governments can just say "lmao you can pass whatever laws you want we'll just ignore it lol lmao" for a variety of reasons but this side-effect never occurred to me.
Splintering the police up into eight billion different tiny agencies must be a contributing factor as to why American police are so shit, too. I doubt the trash cops get as much training as other police do and yet they carry the same guns.
The federal government and various states have noticed this problem of uneven training as well, which is why the federal government consolidated nearly all federal LE training under FLETC in the 1960s, and many states have established their own POST regulations to make sure all accredited peace officers meet basic standards. Is it perfect? No, but it sure as hell beats the old "training is for nerds, here's a nightstick and a badge" that came before.
So at least they're all SUPPOSED to meet a basic federal or state standard. That said, many states like CA have crazy shit like the PC 832 course where you take 40 classroom hours, 24 hours of range time, and suddenly you're an armed LEO, go jump fences after that teen runner and face down that AR-toting school shooter, you're a cop now. This kind of non-academy course is mostly used for smaller specialist agencies like state horse racing board investigators, armed city park rangers, and lottery commission inspectors, who are expected to be armed and occasionally arrest people (but almost never do). It's a surprisingly short class for a broad remit; back in the 1970s and 1980s when these requirements were made they probably figured these guys will never use their weapons so why bother with full academy, but these days things are a lot wilder. I can't really say.
2 years ago
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>No, but it sure as hell beats the old "training is for nerds, here's a nightstick and a badge" that came before.
I recall talking to one of my police officer mates (senior, not a grunt) who was sent to a policing conference in America mostly to check out new weapons and equipment coming out of muttland that we might want to buy. Anyway he was telling me how fricking astounded he was when he walked into the exhibition to discover that there were seminars scheduled on the benefits of adopting the use-of-force continuum.
The implication being there are still significant numbers of US police departments that don't train their officers in the use-of-force continuum, which is like from the fricking 1890s.
And I mean the more I've thought about it the stupider the system is, realistically. We have one state police organisation per state here - I cannot fricking imagine what a shitshow it would be if fricking Cairns had their own Cairns police department with their own staff and officers and equipment and (lack of) training. And with the very serious risk of their officers going "native" and learning to use force in a way which is inconsistent with the law simply because they're in bumfrick nowhere and there's no accountability when they plant drugs, beat detainees, or shoot people and the department is recruiting from a very small and shallow pool of applicants with a hefty dose of nepotism and boys' club.
The problem though is that the American government is fricked in so many ways that you can't fix just one part of it - fixing American police by centralising and consolidating them just makes them more effective at enforcing the batshit Supreme Court rulings, for example. You have to fix America "all at once" and that's not possible with the minority government veto powers you guys have.
Anyway I dunno. I just had, like, neuron activation when you mentioned that side effect but in hindsight it's inevitable. How could it be otherwise.
2 years ago
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The state and federal DOJs act as oversight/Internal Affairs for LE departments too small to have their own Internal Affairs division, so if misconduct is properly reported up the chain you can bet it's getting investigated, especially after Ferguson (because no state/federal AG wants to go in front of hostile legislators in televised committee to explain why they didn't when phone footage is all over the news) if there's any evidence of wrongdoing. Still, things can potentially get nasty out in the remote boonies, especially in rural counties where the elected Sheriff is the top LEO and good ol' boys club rules the day. Hell, an elected county Sheriff doesn't even need to be POST certified in some states, and can have absolutely zero LE training whatsoever (and still carry a weapon and arrest people). This is the kind of thing state and federal LE were formed to bypass in principle, especially when the duly elected Sheriff Cletus Bumfrick can't even read and is openly taking bribes from the local ne'er-do-wells to ignore their crimes. This arguably goes back to the Old West with the U.S. Marshals and similar state agencies like the Texas Rangers, with broad remit to bypass and even arrest/kill corrupt local LE if necessary. There's still a lot of friction between federal, state, and local LE, especially if the local city government disagrees with state and/or federal law, like in CA with their sanctuary city thing and refusing ICE access to arrested illegal immigrants facing auto-deportation for previous violent felony convictions. So you have DHS ICE agents coming in with heavy state/federal support, and local LE de facto obstructing them on their elected official's orders. It gets really messy.
tl;dr: This kind of thing has been going on forever, and it'll just keep going on.
2 years ago
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>remote boonies >rural counties >good ol' boys club rules >especially when the duly elected Sheriff Cletus Bumfrick can't even read and is openly taking bribes
Imagine executing someone with a shot gun in broad day light while your dad and his friend help and only getting punished because your dad's boomer friend sent him the recording which he then brought to the local media after months of the local police taking no action because they're friends w/your dad.
I am literally never leaving New England.
2 years ago
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>oh nooo not the heckin innocent Black >the police are going to EXECUTE me if I leave my democrat state
libtard mentality
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2 years ago
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Imagine jogging 87 miles from your home in timberland boots while carrying a clawhammer
2 years ago
Anonymous
This post is way too spicy for this board.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>spicy
you misspelled reddit
2 years ago
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The only good New Englander is one who stays in his fricking shithole.
2 years ago
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>oh nooo not the heckin innocent Black >the police are going to EXECUTE me if I leave my democrat state
libtard mentality
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Imagine jogging 87 miles from your home in timberland boots while carrying a clawhammer
>spicy
you misspelled reddit
NE literally carrying the nation, the brain trust of our country. It sure is cute when the peasants speak out of line, a lot of gimmedats not knowing their place.
No hard feelings Jethro, just be sure to think of us next time you get 2 inches of snow, or a hurricane, or receive your Medicaid check, or cash more of those trump bucks.
you're welcome homosexual.
2 years ago
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>being proud of paying exhorbitant taxes to pay for other peoples' livelihoods
I propose a toast, to the NEgays!
May they always pay for my autismbucks to buy more guns in my state with comfy (lack of) gun laws!
And may they always do it for free!
2 years ago
Anonymous
The USA's biggest problem is its landmass. It has too few people in too big a country to effectively put in all those control institutions smaller countries take for granted. Yuros fail to understand this because of how dense their cities are and how small most of their countries are, geographically. Paradoxically, in some ways it is easier in Australia because of its small population - less people, less crime. And as you probably know, the less supervision and monitoring a populace has, the more crime it has.
>use-of-force continuum
Honestly, I've come to feel that that sort of thing is just checking off the manual for compliance purposes. A lot of small towns would function well on the just-don't-be-a-dick-to-your-neighbour principle.
2 years ago
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Mass is the biggest problem of most Americans as well.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>less supervision = more crime
No you little fascist the formula is >more conflicting subculture values = more crime
Out of touch government homosexuals generate more crime by applying their ivory tower opinions to the real world and unaware jackboot mercenary homosexuals like you carry water for them
2 years ago
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> fixing American police by centralizing and consolidating them just makes them more effective at enforcing the batshit Supreme Court rulings
The entire reason law enforcement is decentralized and the military is explicitly kept separate from law enforcement is because the federal government can't be trusted to act in the interest of states' rights.
Though, with something like the Coast Guard seeming to be pretty successful, I wonder how true that holds in reality.
2 years ago
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The majority of Coast Guard responsibilities are protecting shipping from environmental hazards; dramatic LE stuff is a tiny minority of their time
2 years ago
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Hello fellow Queensland bro
2 years ago
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The benefit of locals is that yoy don't have the entire system backing up uniformed thugs that kill shelter puppies
Lets laugh at burgers thread turned out surprisingly informative.
I'm not even burger, but things like waste management regulations usually come from local and state governments. Problem with sheriffs in particular is that it is elected position, if local sheriff opposes majority of his city or state political leadership, that might be when bullshit non compliance in enforcement starts in many cases. Same applies to prosecutors higher up in justice system, all the revolving door jails in big cities where robbers just walk out of in name of social justice faster than arresting officers get paper work for them filed in.
The USA's biggest problem is its landmass. It has too few people in too big a country to effectively put in all those control institutions smaller countries take for granted. Yuros fail to understand this because of how dense their cities are and how small most of their countries are, geographically. Paradoxically, in some ways it is easier in Australia because of its small population - less people, less crime. And as you probably know, the less supervision and monitoring a populace has, the more crime it has.
>use-of-force continuum
Honestly, I've come to feel that that sort of thing is just checking off the manual for compliance purposes. A lot of small towns would function well on the just-don't-be-a-dick-to-your-neighbour principle.
>The USA's biggest problem is its landmass. It has too few people in too big a country to effectively put in all those control institutions smaller countries take for granted.
Might have been true in 1800's, definitely not true anymore. >Yuros fail to understand this because of how dense their cities are and how small most of their countries are, geographically.
There is absolutely no effect on population density or distances involved in administrative side of things or training standards. Those certainly have effect on use of force, because less lethal options are much available when back up or emergency medical services are closer and can reach officers faster.
> fixing American police by centralizing and consolidating them just makes them more effective at enforcing the batshit Supreme Court rulings
The entire reason law enforcement is decentralized and the military is explicitly kept separate from law enforcement is because the federal government can't be trusted to act in the interest of states' rights.
Though, with something like the Coast Guard seeming to be pretty successful, I wonder how true that holds in reality.
>Though, with something like the Coast Guard seeming to be pretty successful, I wonder how true that holds in reality.
Coast guard enforces maritime boundaries. Most of their cooperation with law enforcement agencies is with federal ones. Customs, various forms of alphabet soup. When it comes to their missions completely unrelated to defense and law enforcement, like environmental protection stuff, they rarely deal directly with local administration, but with relevant federal and state level agencies.
2 years ago
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>Lets laugh at burgers thread turned out surprisingly informative.
/k/ is healing...
>definitely not true anymore
still the same albeit to lesser extent
the USA is roughly 28 times bigger but has only 4 times more population, being that spread out impacts standards of all kinds.
2 years ago
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>frick
*bigger than Germany
2 years ago
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>still the same albeit to lesser extent >the USA is roughly 28 times bigger but has only 4 times more population, being that spread out impacts standards of all kinds.
Huge parts of US population are in big cities. Even if those are bit more spread out due to urban sprawl than similar sized European cities. When it comes to enforcing training standards to police departments across the country, distance isn't really an issue. When it comes to all kinds of frankly bizarre and specialized law enforcement organizations like NY janitors or whoever manages gambling Commiefornia. Those should be just squads, task forces or similar within regular police departments in bigger cities. Just like they have with drugs, homicide, organized crime and slightly less organized crime like street gangs. Big cities can have those specialties in their own organization, for smaller towns that shit should be either provided by or supported by state or federal level agencies if niche is too small for local law enforcement agencies.
This where we start to touch American holy cow known as states rights. It would be perfectly reasonable from federal government impose standards of training for police officers and sheriffs deputies. Something along lines of 1 year of academy training and 1 year of on the job training under qualified supervision before becoming qualified cop. I come from country where, thanks to EU, police academy has been technically turned into university and every single police officer has bachelors degree in beating drunkards. About 2 years of classroom instruction and 1 year of on the job training under supervision. They even have to write a scientific paper to graduate, I have read few of those, firearms related ones are funny as frick for all the wrong reasons.
Also there are two digits worth inspecting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Huge parts of US population are in big cities. Even if those are bit more spread out due to urban sprawl than similar sized European cities
It's crazy spread out, but not because of urban sprawl, it's because it's cheaper to spread out. It's cheaper to build suburbs than blocks of flats. European countries, again, don't fully understand this.
But even though there are many US cities, the problem is there are many many more tiny little towns of a few thousand people, and unifying and maintaining training and standards in these small places is the issue.
Not just because of lack of funding - these small towns don't earn much - but also because of the problem of quis custodiet ipsos custodes. Who watches the watchmen?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm always surprised to see lone US cops, how out of shape or old they are, and their shitty antagonistic/trigger happy way to deal with problems. Here in the EU street cops are almost always fit 20+30yo and even lowly local town cops have to study for two years before being allowed to go unsupervised to manage traffic. We also usually have a couple of somewhat overlapping nation-level police agencies that watch each other for corruption. And they're all usually have much less gear than US cops too.
When facing a situation than event hints at a chance of violence they will stall and de-escalate as much as possible until an horde of extra cops arrive to overwhelm suspects even if they're armed with knives.
They are more reckless in riot control events, but those also involve dedicated units under direct political control that do not deal with day to day stuff.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The main problem with elected sheriffs/DAs is corruption, especially in places where old boys rule the roosts. For example, the Santa Clara County sheriff is in bigass trouble for only issuing CCW permits to wealthy campaign donors, some of which turned out to be felons ineligible to even own firearms. I think corruption charges have even been filed, which is a rarity in anti-gun Bay Area CA. This is partly why higher levels of LE exist like state/federal DOJs, to act as oversight/IA for the independent lower agencies.
honestly most of the problems come from the generalist agencies, that is, Local police, state police, and the FBI. The upside of specialist traning to enforce specialized laws is that a LEO who just focuses on one thing will probably be better at that one thing than a generalist.
The local police catch a lot of shit because they spend so much time dealing with scumbags that they become scumbags themselves (or the decent people quit because the job is literally killing them). The other problems are related to asset forfeiture and fines as a means of revenue generation for their local governments, and could probably be solved to a larger degree if they were forced to use that revenue to purchase 20 year federal bonds, then hold those bonds in escrow until they mature. Or some other way to disincentivize using speeding tickets and whatnot to fund the local government.
It's a double edged sword really. On the one hand this basically allows some states to not enforce immigration. One the other it allows some states to not enforce pot and gun laws. I'd honestly prefer more ineffective law enforcement over highly effective top down tyranny
I wish we had an armed environment protection agency in Germany.
The moronic poles just killed the entire Oder river, because the corrupt PISS party allowed one of their freinds to dump so much mercury in the river, that the reading was off the charts.
He asked for the permission, because the local sewage company refused to take his toxic shit.
It should be considered an act of chemical warfare.
>because the corrupt PISS party allowed one of their freinds to dump so much mercury in the river >He asked for the permission, because the local sewage company refused to take his toxic shit.
You seem rather quick to point fingers germoid, especially considering not even pro-opposition websites report this "story" and we have yet to learn the circumstances. Not so long ago another germoid was setting fires to Czech forests, I wonder if there's some correlation.
Have you never heard about that one incident where that 83 foot long fatberg in the sewer under 27th street became self aware and tried to take over Manhattan?
I would love to hear the horror stories pest control had to go through during the first covid lockdown. Apparently rats in NYC were having all out rat wars that devolved into mass cannibalism due to so many restaurants closing down and narrowing the food supply of the food waste that'd be found in the dumpsters.
i am a sparky and a new worker in our company told me a bit about his old company. at his old job they did a lot of work for the city and a lot of this work was in the sewers, mainly installing waterflowmeters and other sensors. to even be allowed to go into the sewer system he had to get like 4 or 5 different vaccinations.
>Garbage collectors with higher fatality rates than Firefighters >Police Officers have a lower fatality rate than Groundkeepers and Landscapers >Miners have the lowest rate of the lot
NYC is a cesspit and I will never understand peoples acceptance of that filth as a sign of greatness. But these guys absolutely keep it from being 50x worse so kudos to them.
I work with a guy who is slightly cross eyed like this. It always throws me off when I talk to him because your brain diverts into trying to figure out where to focus
Did the jannie in the top left die in the line of duty? Or do americans hold formal funerals for natural death cases, as in there being a whole ceremonial shabang EVERY TIME a current serviceman in any branch drops from a heart attack or something?
>Did the jannie in the top left die in the line of duty? Or do americans hold formal funerals for natural death cases, as in there being a whole ceremonial shabang EVERY TIME a current serviceman in any branch drops from a heart attack or something?
Americans usually hold formal funerals, even for natural death cases. Being in a uniformed capacity is one thing Americans are always proud of. I'd imagine nu-Bundeswehr's circumstance of formal funerals is for duty-induced deaths only.
if you want a man to be proud of his work give him work he can be proud of.
garbagemen do an important job and they do it every day, and well. they should be held in high esteem. smart uniforms and little ribbons are one way of communicating that to the public.
What's with Americans and uniformed services for random shit? Why are people working in healthcare and the like getting titles like "rear admiral" and shit?
Both NOAA and PHS have Commissioned Corps. Mainly because NOAA came out of various civilian mapping agencies and PHS was the government health service, both of which ended up doing battlefield/warzone shit in wartime in the pre-Geneva Convention centuries, so they were commissioned as nominally non-combatant government "officers" with ranks so as to not get executed as spies if captured. This became institutional inertia and ended up getting codified into law as such.
That's why PHS and NOAA CC officers get Tricare and shit. They get the same benefits as the military because they're all Uniformed Services per the laws.
It's mainly a leftover from the pre-Geneva Convention days, but they have some roles where a chain of command makes sense; NOAA operates a large fleet of oceanic research vessels and weather research aircraft, all commanded by CC officers, while the PHS orders its officers to do things like staff remote Indian rez hospitals and handle crazy high-risk outbreaks.
>be me >Grand Medical Admiral Anon >"Admiral, that man is having a heart attack!" >"mark his coordinates on the grid, nitroglycerine shell, on the double" >"yes sir!" >the rooftop Howitzer is dialed in on the man's position as he convulses in the streets >"fire!" >an injection shell full of nitroglycerin screams as it approaches the target, ready to save his life with much-needed heart attack medication >the needle impales him through the chest and keeps going >the man and shell are launched into a nearby fireworks warehouse >15 city blocks are incinerated in the blast, thousands of people are calling in reporting severe burns >another job well done, pour some more whiskey into my XXXXXL Big Gulp shot glass
Unironically better than all of the military uniforms. I don't know why the poopscooper general gets 4 stars though. Also, why are they carrying a casket. Did some guy get mauled by a trash golem?
>NYPD are "New York's Finest >NYFD are "New York's Bravest >DSNY are "New York's Strongest
Oh my god, does the big kahuna of each of them have like a triforce piece or something
I like the idea of an eternal warfare below some sort of civilizations
I think read of this shit before in a fantasy novel. Forget the names
Basically a group of soldier fighting monster that clog city sewer, some of this monster is waste from mage/alchemist guild city above.
And no its not warhammer 40k
thankyouforyourservice/10
>Good morning jannie-general, private-jannie reporting for duty!
>Excellent, we need you to take to the internet and clean it up
>U-um, general, will I be getting paid?
>Damnit jannie-private! Youre getting demoted! Now get to work, PICK.IT.UP!
>literal garbage men get better uniforms than my c**ts army
They’re fighting on the streets and sewers of NYC, which just got confirmed for having polio down there. If there’s anyone that should be thanked for their service its those guys. Christ above the entire city was practically Chernobyl tier contaminated with shit like asbestos once the towers fell.
I expect the sanitation department to start issuing out MOPP gear now just for that. Every state trashman shall be roaming the streets in the woodland camo set just for aesthetics above ground and below to properly camouflage against Master Splinter and feral ghouls that reside there.
Personally I’m surprised it took this long. Up until very recently NYC was downright disgusting, nevermind events like the trashmen strike back in the 70’s.
I'm sure they already issue mops to janitors
heh
OP pic's chief jannie actually has a 9/11 WTC campaign ribbon/medal, he literally had to clean up the rubble and probably has enough asbestos in him to make his grave a Superfund site.
>9/11 WTC campaign ribbon/medal
what a fricking hero. god bless him.
Polio isn't dangerous to adults
I think one of our former presidents would disagree.
???
he got that as an adolescent.
>~~*(Roosevelts*~~)
he was faking it, no doubt
>he doesn't know
proof?
You can say a lot about America but they sure love cops. So much so that literal janitors larp as them
Street sanitation really began in New York City. They used to wear white uniforms, and sweep up the gutters all day long.
It's such an important job that it had to be invented in America.
Everyone on the planet including London uses in some way the NYC Dept of Sanitation methods. They invented the entire concept of a civic institution, not some street urchins forced to pull trash out of sewers (which were people's basements... no for real noble people in London just let shit sit in their basement, piss, shit, and garbage, under a wonderful home...).
I suppose I have to remind anyone that Verssailles literally does not have sanitation facilities at all, it was all piss buckets or the stairway.
That is what those uniformed NYC sanitation workers overcame.
The rest of the world, especially Slavs and Yuropoors, don't get it. The Japs do.
good post.
The uniforms came about in an effort to professionalize and bring pride to the sanitation workers. They also militarized it to reduce corruption, as the previous street urchins and criminal gangs that picked up trash were notorious for their shady dealings. Businesses would have to pay bribes to get their trash picked up on time, and political candidates could pay bribes to have the trash of their opponents searched for secrets and leverage.
Even today the Sanitation Department is serious business. You have to take an ASVAB-like qualification test and attend a little academy before they let you out on the streets, and apparently the competition to get in is fierce.
I had a neighbor when I lived on Manhattan who worked in the department. He was roughing it out for amazing benefits and most job injuries can be reassigned to desk work. I’m fairly certain he was some sort of plumber.
Please redpill me on how militarization helps with corruption.
And yet, NYC still looks&smells like shit&piss respectively
That’s the people not the streets.
There's only so much you can do with a city, especially modern NYC. It would be physically uninhabitable without public sanitation.
The situation those brave men face in NYC is worse than what the US military faces during post-invasion Iraq.
I say NYC is the Iraq of waste and sanitation in the U.S
Yea well it's full of Black folk and hispanics now
Always was
Not quite.
That's what near uncontrolled immigration does that to your city. In other countries they would either gave up and set up a new financial hub or just gave up trying
you’re moronic. London pioneered industrial urban sanitization and nowhere on the planet comes close. Even though London is a giant shithole it’s still 100x cleaner than New York and judging by the scenes in James Bond Live and Let Die it’s been that way for a good 50 years now. New York may have had a leg up in 1940-1960 but the end of segregation demanded it wasn’t going to last
You don’t even realize how different NYC is now compared to 50 years ago. The contrast is night and day. Look at Times Square then and now. Look at the trains that used to be covered in graffiti.
I unironically respect sanitation workers ten fold more than the military. These guys literally ensure your city doesn't become a third world shithole like all the Europoor/slav nations.
Does that motherfricker have campaign ribbons
He's seen some shit
Underrated
ffs anon
Heh
Do you have any idea how filthy NYC is?
unironically cleaner than 60% of LA
>here’s a picture of a back alley where they keep dumpsters. Look at how filthy New York City is!
anon…
At least one of those is a 9/11 WTC first responder ribbon. That jannie had to clean up the wreckage of the Twin Towers and probably inhaled enough asbestos for his lungs to be considered a Superfund site.
Also, the NYCDS has an Enforcement Division with armed LEOs enforcing sanitation laws. They even have their own Sanitation Police cars and a special K-9 unit.
>Also, the NYCDS has an Enforcement Division with armed LEOs enforcing sanitation laws. They even have their own Sanitation Police cars and a special K-9 unit.
>no we don’t have an overpolicing problem in America
Better watch what you say before the united states postal inspection service gets sic'd on you
Is there a governmental institution in the US that doesn't have its own machine gun-toting commando SWAT team?
No, we aren’t pussy ass noguns euro homosexuals
I mean this is unironically a big reason for the militarisation of the police. Every search warrant can turn into a shootout so might as well wear the body armour and carry the rifle
have any /k/ tards actually worked in one of these orgs? I don't know, but I have a theory that they have to have units like that because if specialists are needed to accompany SWAT teams, they'd need to wear plates and be capable of self-defence
basically civvy combat engineers
meanwhile you have places like Japan, which have incredibly strict gun laws, having their PM instagibbed by a dedicated kid with a homemade shotgun because they let their guard down. nevermind the other innocents victimized because they were assured the government would take care of them.
if people wish to commit violence, they're going to do it regardless of if you're prepared for them to do it or not, so you may as well have a fighting chance.
Japan has one of the lowest murder rates in the world. 0.3 per 100k people. They let their guard down because they can afford to.
Japan also has a well-documented history of covering up crime, an exceptionally high suicide rate, and the difference between its suicide rate and the OECD average is twice the difference between its official murder rate and the OECD average
coincidence? I think not
There's also the problem of identifying the ctime itself. Is rape of a single person on a multiple time basis count as a single case of is the case registered every single time said person is raped? Is a misdemeanor and infraction count as a reportable cases? Things like bike theft and domestic abuse are treated as separate cases not included in Japan crime rate afaik
>let your guard down
>important politician gets frickin splattered by one of your own people
the lesson here?
Japanese crimes are notoriously under reported. Their cops are also lazy/shitty that they don't report crimes because they find it a pain to do paperwork. Or they give up on cases easily and also been payed/influence by other entities. Take Japanese crimes stats with a grain of salt.
Japanese cops are also notorious for not taking cases that don't have a guaranteed conviction inorder to not hurt their near 100% conviction rate. They're also known to rule deaths as suicide or accidents without investigating so as to not raise the murder rate.
>other entities
Mostly the Yakuza and right-wing political parties, which are often very closely intertwined. It's basically an open secret there, and as long as they keep the bloodiest stuff out of the public eye and don't unnecessarily involve innocent civilians, the cops ignore it. Well, at least they did before the late 90s, when a bunch of Yakuza killed some innocent people in broad daylight and there was a nationwide crackdown for a while IIRC.
i've always known that NASA has its own badged officers, but it's still really jarring to see pics of them in action.
wtf is that AR setup
Look at the neck, NASA is the federal agency that employs legit ayys. It's a space AR because ayys, shit probably fires lasers or something, the mag is probably a power cell.
>frick with Cape Canaveral
>NASA SWAT shows up
>its actual ayys with flying saucers and ray guns
>you get vaporized like in Mars Attacks
The Food and Drug Administration has its own cops too. Met one and he said they do stuff like interfere in the mafia's olive oil business
A lot of it came from jurisdictional problems and a "I ain't enforcing it" attitude by local law enforcement of the time (especially sheriffs) when it came to state/federal laws and innumerable/difficult-to-enforce local codes. So, specialized law enforcement agencies sprung up to enforce all these laws, which if unenforced are meaningless and result in the issuing government losing their power/existence. I won't get into a long historical or philosophical discussion on the ethics of it, just putting out the practical reasons why.
tl;dr: The existing police refused to enforce specific laws, so special police agencies got set up to enforce them.
That's actually quite interesting from an outside perspective.
American federalism is hot garbage for many reasons but this is an aspect of it that I didn't consider. I've always considered it fricking stupid how American local governments can just say "lmao you can pass whatever laws you want we'll just ignore it lol lmao" for a variety of reasons but this side-effect never occurred to me.
Splintering the police up into eight billion different tiny agencies must be a contributing factor as to why American police are so shit, too. I doubt the trash cops get as much training as other police do and yet they carry the same guns.
The federal government and various states have noticed this problem of uneven training as well, which is why the federal government consolidated nearly all federal LE training under FLETC in the 1960s, and many states have established their own POST regulations to make sure all accredited peace officers meet basic standards. Is it perfect? No, but it sure as hell beats the old "training is for nerds, here's a nightstick and a badge" that came before.
So at least they're all SUPPOSED to meet a basic federal or state standard. That said, many states like CA have crazy shit like the PC 832 course where you take 40 classroom hours, 24 hours of range time, and suddenly you're an armed LEO, go jump fences after that teen runner and face down that AR-toting school shooter, you're a cop now. This kind of non-academy course is mostly used for smaller specialist agencies like state horse racing board investigators, armed city park rangers, and lottery commission inspectors, who are expected to be armed and occasionally arrest people (but almost never do). It's a surprisingly short class for a broad remit; back in the 1970s and 1980s when these requirements were made they probably figured these guys will never use their weapons so why bother with full academy, but these days things are a lot wilder. I can't really say.
>No, but it sure as hell beats the old "training is for nerds, here's a nightstick and a badge" that came before.
I recall talking to one of my police officer mates (senior, not a grunt) who was sent to a policing conference in America mostly to check out new weapons and equipment coming out of muttland that we might want to buy. Anyway he was telling me how fricking astounded he was when he walked into the exhibition to discover that there were seminars scheduled on the benefits of adopting the use-of-force continuum.
The implication being there are still significant numbers of US police departments that don't train their officers in the use-of-force continuum, which is like from the fricking 1890s.
And I mean the more I've thought about it the stupider the system is, realistically. We have one state police organisation per state here - I cannot fricking imagine what a shitshow it would be if fricking Cairns had their own Cairns police department with their own staff and officers and equipment and (lack of) training. And with the very serious risk of their officers going "native" and learning to use force in a way which is inconsistent with the law simply because they're in bumfrick nowhere and there's no accountability when they plant drugs, beat detainees, or shoot people and the department is recruiting from a very small and shallow pool of applicants with a hefty dose of nepotism and boys' club.
The problem though is that the American government is fricked in so many ways that you can't fix just one part of it - fixing American police by centralising and consolidating them just makes them more effective at enforcing the batshit Supreme Court rulings, for example. You have to fix America "all at once" and that's not possible with the minority government veto powers you guys have.
Anyway I dunno. I just had, like, neuron activation when you mentioned that side effect but in hindsight it's inevitable. How could it be otherwise.
The state and federal DOJs act as oversight/Internal Affairs for LE departments too small to have their own Internal Affairs division, so if misconduct is properly reported up the chain you can bet it's getting investigated, especially after Ferguson (because no state/federal AG wants to go in front of hostile legislators in televised committee to explain why they didn't when phone footage is all over the news) if there's any evidence of wrongdoing. Still, things can potentially get nasty out in the remote boonies, especially in rural counties where the elected Sheriff is the top LEO and good ol' boys club rules the day. Hell, an elected county Sheriff doesn't even need to be POST certified in some states, and can have absolutely zero LE training whatsoever (and still carry a weapon and arrest people). This is the kind of thing state and federal LE were formed to bypass in principle, especially when the duly elected Sheriff Cletus Bumfrick can't even read and is openly taking bribes from the local ne'er-do-wells to ignore their crimes. This arguably goes back to the Old West with the U.S. Marshals and similar state agencies like the Texas Rangers, with broad remit to bypass and even arrest/kill corrupt local LE if necessary. There's still a lot of friction between federal, state, and local LE, especially if the local city government disagrees with state and/or federal law, like in CA with their sanctuary city thing and refusing ICE access to arrested illegal immigrants facing auto-deportation for previous violent felony convictions. So you have DHS ICE agents coming in with heavy state/federal support, and local LE de facto obstructing them on their elected official's orders. It gets really messy.
tl;dr: This kind of thing has been going on forever, and it'll just keep going on.
>remote boonies
>rural counties
>good ol' boys club rules
>especially when the duly elected Sheriff Cletus Bumfrick can't even read and is openly taking bribes
Imagine executing someone with a shot gun in broad day light while your dad and his friend help and only getting punished because your dad's boomer friend sent him the recording which he then brought to the local media after months of the local police taking no action because they're friends w/your dad.
I am literally never leaving New England.
>oh nooo not the heckin innocent Black
>the police are going to EXECUTE me if I leave my democrat state
libtard mentality
Imagine jogging 87 miles from your home in timberland boots while carrying a clawhammer
This post is way too spicy for this board.
>spicy
you misspelled reddit
The only good New Englander is one who stays in his fricking shithole.
NE literally carrying the nation, the brain trust of our country. It sure is cute when the peasants speak out of line, a lot of gimmedats not knowing their place.
No hard feelings Jethro, just be sure to think of us next time you get 2 inches of snow, or a hurricane, or receive your Medicaid check, or cash more of those trump bucks.
you're welcome homosexual.
>being proud of paying exhorbitant taxes to pay for other peoples' livelihoods
I propose a toast, to the NEgays!
May they always pay for my autismbucks to buy more guns in my state with comfy (lack of) gun laws!
And may they always do it for free!
The USA's biggest problem is its landmass. It has too few people in too big a country to effectively put in all those control institutions smaller countries take for granted. Yuros fail to understand this because of how dense their cities are and how small most of their countries are, geographically. Paradoxically, in some ways it is easier in Australia because of its small population - less people, less crime. And as you probably know, the less supervision and monitoring a populace has, the more crime it has.
>use-of-force continuum
Honestly, I've come to feel that that sort of thing is just checking off the manual for compliance purposes. A lot of small towns would function well on the just-don't-be-a-dick-to-your-neighbour principle.
Mass is the biggest problem of most Americans as well.
>less supervision = more crime
No you little fascist the formula is
>more conflicting subculture values = more crime
Out of touch government homosexuals generate more crime by applying their ivory tower opinions to the real world and unaware jackboot mercenary homosexuals like you carry water for them
> fixing American police by centralizing and consolidating them just makes them more effective at enforcing the batshit Supreme Court rulings
The entire reason law enforcement is decentralized and the military is explicitly kept separate from law enforcement is because the federal government can't be trusted to act in the interest of states' rights.
Though, with something like the Coast Guard seeming to be pretty successful, I wonder how true that holds in reality.
The majority of Coast Guard responsibilities are protecting shipping from environmental hazards; dramatic LE stuff is a tiny minority of their time
Hello fellow Queensland bro
The benefit of locals is that yoy don't have the entire system backing up uniformed thugs that kill shelter puppies
Lets laugh at burgers thread turned out surprisingly informative.
I'm not even burger, but things like waste management regulations usually come from local and state governments. Problem with sheriffs in particular is that it is elected position, if local sheriff opposes majority of his city or state political leadership, that might be when bullshit non compliance in enforcement starts in many cases. Same applies to prosecutors higher up in justice system, all the revolving door jails in big cities where robbers just walk out of in name of social justice faster than arresting officers get paper work for them filed in.
>The USA's biggest problem is its landmass. It has too few people in too big a country to effectively put in all those control institutions smaller countries take for granted.
Might have been true in 1800's, definitely not true anymore.
>Yuros fail to understand this because of how dense their cities are and how small most of their countries are, geographically.
There is absolutely no effect on population density or distances involved in administrative side of things or training standards. Those certainly have effect on use of force, because less lethal options are much available when back up or emergency medical services are closer and can reach officers faster.
>Though, with something like the Coast Guard seeming to be pretty successful, I wonder how true that holds in reality.
Coast guard enforces maritime boundaries. Most of their cooperation with law enforcement agencies is with federal ones. Customs, various forms of alphabet soup. When it comes to their missions completely unrelated to defense and law enforcement, like environmental protection stuff, they rarely deal directly with local administration, but with relevant federal and state level agencies.
>Lets laugh at burgers thread turned out surprisingly informative.
/k/ is healing...
>definitely not true anymore
still the same albeit to lesser extent
the USA is roughly 28 times bigger but has only 4 times more population, being that spread out impacts standards of all kinds.
>frick
*bigger than Germany
>still the same albeit to lesser extent
>the USA is roughly 28 times bigger but has only 4 times more population, being that spread out impacts standards of all kinds.
Huge parts of US population are in big cities. Even if those are bit more spread out due to urban sprawl than similar sized European cities. When it comes to enforcing training standards to police departments across the country, distance isn't really an issue. When it comes to all kinds of frankly bizarre and specialized law enforcement organizations like NY janitors or whoever manages gambling Commiefornia. Those should be just squads, task forces or similar within regular police departments in bigger cities. Just like they have with drugs, homicide, organized crime and slightly less organized crime like street gangs. Big cities can have those specialties in their own organization, for smaller towns that shit should be either provided by or supported by state or federal level agencies if niche is too small for local law enforcement agencies.
This where we start to touch American holy cow known as states rights. It would be perfectly reasonable from federal government impose standards of training for police officers and sheriffs deputies. Something along lines of 1 year of academy training and 1 year of on the job training under qualified supervision before becoming qualified cop. I come from country where, thanks to EU, police academy has been technically turned into university and every single police officer has bachelors degree in beating drunkards. About 2 years of classroom instruction and 1 year of on the job training under supervision. They even have to write a scientific paper to graduate, I have read few of those, firearms related ones are funny as frick for all the wrong reasons.
Also there are two digits worth inspecting.
>Huge parts of US population are in big cities. Even if those are bit more spread out due to urban sprawl than similar sized European cities
It's crazy spread out, but not because of urban sprawl, it's because it's cheaper to spread out. It's cheaper to build suburbs than blocks of flats. European countries, again, don't fully understand this.
But even though there are many US cities, the problem is there are many many more tiny little towns of a few thousand people, and unifying and maintaining training and standards in these small places is the issue.
Not just because of lack of funding - these small towns don't earn much - but also because of the problem of quis custodiet ipsos custodes. Who watches the watchmen?
I'm always surprised to see lone US cops, how out of shape or old they are, and their shitty antagonistic/trigger happy way to deal with problems. Here in the EU street cops are almost always fit 20+30yo and even lowly local town cops have to study for two years before being allowed to go unsupervised to manage traffic. We also usually have a couple of somewhat overlapping nation-level police agencies that watch each other for corruption. And they're all usually have much less gear than US cops too.
When facing a situation than event hints at a chance of violence they will stall and de-escalate as much as possible until an horde of extra cops arrive to overwhelm suspects even if they're armed with knives.
They are more reckless in riot control events, but those also involve dedicated units under direct political control that do not deal with day to day stuff.
The main problem with elected sheriffs/DAs is corruption, especially in places where old boys rule the roosts. For example, the Santa Clara County sheriff is in bigass trouble for only issuing CCW permits to wealthy campaign donors, some of which turned out to be felons ineligible to even own firearms. I think corruption charges have even been filed, which is a rarity in anti-gun Bay Area CA. This is partly why higher levels of LE exist like state/federal DOJs, to act as oversight/IA for the independent lower agencies.
honestly most of the problems come from the generalist agencies, that is, Local police, state police, and the FBI. The upside of specialist traning to enforce specialized laws is that a LEO who just focuses on one thing will probably be better at that one thing than a generalist.
The local police catch a lot of shit because they spend so much time dealing with scumbags that they become scumbags themselves (or the decent people quit because the job is literally killing them). The other problems are related to asset forfeiture and fines as a means of revenue generation for their local governments, and could probably be solved to a larger degree if they were forced to use that revenue to purchase 20 year federal bonds, then hold those bonds in escrow until they mature. Or some other way to disincentivize using speeding tickets and whatnot to fund the local government.
It's a double edged sword really. On the one hand this basically allows some states to not enforce immigration. One the other it allows some states to not enforce pot and gun laws. I'd honestly prefer more ineffective law enforcement over highly effective top down tyranny
I wish we had an armed environment protection agency in Germany.
The moronic poles just killed the entire Oder river, because the corrupt PISS party allowed one of their freinds to dump so much mercury in the river, that the reading was off the charts.
He asked for the permission, because the local sewage company refused to take his toxic shit.
It should be considered an act of chemical warfare.
They're not sending their armed thugs after corporations, they're going after regular people.
wait, it was a massive injection of heavy metals they dumped into a major river? morons
>because the corrupt PISS party allowed one of their freinds to dump so much mercury in the river
>He asked for the permission, because the local sewage company refused to take his toxic shit.
You seem rather quick to point fingers germoid, especially considering not even pro-opposition websites report this "story" and we have yet to learn the circumstances. Not so long ago another germoid was setting fires to Czech forests, I wonder if there's some correlation.
Aight all that is actually known about that is the fish all died. There is no proof that its Mercury.
shoudl've blamed the russians and delared war tbh
Have you never heard about that one incident where that 83 foot long fatberg in the sewer under 27th street became self aware and tried to take over Manhattan?
yeah it was me
Have you seen the size of those fricking rats
Man earned his campaign ribbons
laugh all you want, but given that it's NYC their probably the bravest men out in the field.
I would love to hear the horror stories pest control had to go through during the first covid lockdown. Apparently rats in NYC were having all out rat wars that devolved into mass cannibalism due to so many restaurants closing down and narrowing the food supply of the food waste that'd be found in the dumpsters.
Frick now I want to mod AR's into vermintide
frick id love to hear those stories
>Plague
>Extremely violent rats that eat everything in seconds
>Corruption
>Lots of murder
It's not even funny anymore to make this comparisson
Lovecraftian
Thank you for your service, unironically
ditto, unironically
more sanitation workers are killed in the line of duty than cops
What the frick, why? What on earth is killing them? Sewer super rats?
If you only knew…
garbage trucks driven by their skilled garbage union brothers, probably.
CARLOS
respect the blood stripe
i am a sparky and a new worker in our company told me a bit about his old company. at his old job they did a lot of work for the city and a lot of this work was in the sewers, mainly installing waterflowmeters and other sensors. to even be allowed to go into the sewer system he had to get like 4 or 5 different vaccinations.
No such thing filthy man-thing.
It's the mole man-people, yes-yes.
Man sized rats in the sewers? If you continue spouting such heretical nonsense I shall have to call the Witch Hunters
>Garbage collectors with higher fatality rates than Firefighters
>Police Officers have a lower fatality rate than Groundkeepers and Landscapers
>Miners have the lowest rate of the lot
NYC is a cesspit and I will never understand peoples acceptance of that filth as a sign of greatness. But these guys absolutely keep it from being 50x worse so kudos to them.
what is this homie looking at
you've never seen the thousand yard stare?
That man has seen dumpsters filthier than favelas
everything
I think one can claim that these guys saw thing you people wouldn't believe.
I work with a guy who is slightly cross eyed like this. It always throws me off when I talk to him because your brain diverts into trying to figure out where to focus
Always keep one eye out for the litter in tha streets
manipulating depth perception for when the rats close in
Seeing what New Yorkers throw away will traumatize a man.
You ever seen what a prom night dumpster baby looks like when bloated full of maggots?
Frick NYC, carpet bomb it.
People keeping the streets clean deseve more respect than most profession
Ive seen a lot of junk in my days and now I'm tired of being trashed around
Did the jannie in the top left die in the line of duty? Or do americans hold formal funerals for natural death cases, as in there being a whole ceremonial shabang EVERY TIME a current serviceman in any branch drops from a heart attack or something?
>Did the jannie in the top left die in the line of duty? Or do americans hold formal funerals for natural death cases, as in there being a whole ceremonial shabang EVERY TIME a current serviceman in any branch drops from a heart attack or something?
Americans usually hold formal funerals, even for natural death cases. Being in a uniformed capacity is one thing Americans are always proud of. I'd imagine nu-Bundeswehr's circumstance of formal funerals is for duty-induced deaths only.
God damn modern armies look so shit it's depressing.
> train for war and not ceremony more often than not
> wtf I can't believe this
>bundeswehr
>train for war
pull the other one...
needs a waist cinch or belt. Probably wouldn't happen due to the average body type of sanitation workers
Back when my family came from Ireland, the patriarch's death was suffocating in a septic tank.
He didn't get a funeral like this.
Suffocated or drowned? If the former, how did he suffocate? Shitty way to go either way
>how did he suffocate
Presumably the air in a septic tank is not breathable.
Cool uniforms, shame that NYC is now the epicenter of Polio's return because it's such a fricking disgusting city
>combat-ready jannies
troony bros, I don’t feel so good
Autist bros...
Are they wiping out of autism from the face of NYC?
Wrong board
stop fricking around with offtopic shit
Looks good except for the red stripe, a gold stripe would be better.
But 0/10 for being a waste of tax payer money and being ineffectual for garbage collection.
if you want a man to be proud of his work give him work he can be proud of.
garbagemen do an important job and they do it every day, and well. they should be held in high esteem. smart uniforms and little ribbons are one way of communicating that to the public.
j0ntg
Sanitation workers should be armed and legally allowed to shoot litterers.
What firearm should they use?
Air rifles. The sewage workers can't use any powder armaments when hunting creatures in the sewer systems.
NYC Metro 2022
Tommy gun with a drum. Optimal street sweeping device
>captcha is 80PPK
>Sanitation workers should be armed and legally allowed to shoot litterers.
>What firearm should they use?
HL2 Cremator beam
They are already armed they have sanitation cops.
They what?
A Street Sweeper 12g of course
smartguns and motion trackers
What's with Americans and uniformed services for random shit? Why are people working in healthcare and the like getting titles like "rear admiral" and shit?
Both NOAA and PHS have Commissioned Corps. Mainly because NOAA came out of various civilian mapping agencies and PHS was the government health service, both of which ended up doing battlefield/warzone shit in wartime in the pre-Geneva Convention centuries, so they were commissioned as nominally non-combatant government "officers" with ranks so as to not get executed as spies if captured. This became institutional inertia and ended up getting codified into law as such.
That's why PHS and NOAA CC officers get Tricare and shit. They get the same benefits as the military because they're all Uniformed Services per the laws.
Thanks. That's actually a very educational post.
It's mainly a leftover from the pre-Geneva Convention days, but they have some roles where a chain of command makes sense; NOAA operates a large fleet of oceanic research vessels and weather research aircraft, all commanded by CC officers, while the PHS orders its officers to do things like staff remote Indian rez hospitals and handle crazy high-risk outbreaks.
>be me
>Grand Medical Admiral Anon
>"Admiral, that man is having a heart attack!"
>"mark his coordinates on the grid, nitroglycerine shell, on the double"
>"yes sir!"
>the rooftop Howitzer is dialed in on the man's position as he convulses in the streets
>"fire!"
>an injection shell full of nitroglycerin screams as it approaches the target, ready to save his life with much-needed heart attack medication
>the needle impales him through the chest and keeps going
>the man and shell are launched into a nearby fireworks warehouse
>15 city blocks are incinerated in the blast, thousands of people are calling in reporting severe burns
>another job well done, pour some more whiskey into my XXXXXL Big Gulp shot glass
You laugh but do you have any idea what nyc garbage men make?
https://www.ibtimes.com/94-nyc-garbage-collectors-earn-300000-2021-net-100000-ot-pay-3356548
And unlike the NYPD, these guys earn every penny
a wop and a mick are the only two “whites” left holding positions in New York… of course
???
Unironically better than all of the military uniforms. I don't know why the poopscooper general gets 4 stars though. Also, why are they carrying a casket. Did some guy get mauled by a trash golem?
>Did some guy get mauled by a trash golem?
Yes, but over here we call them African Americans
Those guys do more useful work for the common American people than the soldiers blowing up goat frickers on the other side of the planet.
Do they get paid?
We laugh but public sanitation is probably the most important job in modern life.
>four star janny
this guy sometimes collects a different kind of garbage
Why the frick a glorified public urban cleaning secretariat have military design uniforms? What are they cleaning, the infidels?
because it makes Black person homosexuals like you seethe
Oh, wow. Yes, go unclog that manhole to make Black person homosexuals seethe, if you let a single drop of sewer on it you're demoted
Stop projecting
these guys have more value than 90% of doctors and make the city better
I might agree you on that. They don't have to dickwave with the uniform though
>ctrl F alligator
>0/0
I'd love one of these uniforms and a flamethrower please. Different kind of sanitation
Someone played The Division before.
I feel like the poles could take a few lessons from these guys lmao
kill all wojak and reddit frog posters
have sex
bend over
Sanitation boys are absolutely vital and deserve full respect, but the uniforms are a bit... much.
>NYPD are "New York's Finest
>NYFD are "New York's Bravest
>DSNY are "New York's Strongest
Oh my god, does the big kahuna of each of them have like a triforce piece or something
newbies can't triforce
Does the mafia have a hand in it like they do with garbage disposal?
>everyone forgets the russian federal tax police
unironic nightmare shit
The new R6S update looks awful.
What you gonna do when the space cops pull you over for going over 90 light years per hour?
>you will never operate with NASA Protective Services with their legit ayys and death ray space ARs
whyevenlive.jpg
I like the idea of an eternal warfare below some sort of civilizations
I think read of this shit before in a fantasy novel. Forget the names
Basically a group of soldier fighting monster that clog city sewer, some of this monster is waste from mage/alchemist guild city above.
And no its not warhammer 40k
TMNT
What the hell do you think happened to the dude in the top-left picture?
The molemen in the sewer killed him