radar for ground targets

> peer to peer war
> all vehicles get thermal protection
> op for switches to radar detection like longbow apache
what now?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i need a redpill QRD in this thread stat no cap fr

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    lmao like total ten russians vehicles have that thermal camo net

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      pic is only semi related, dont get excited reddit bot, war isnt a sport game and youre not obligated to root for a side

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        > pic is only semi related, dont get excited reddit bot, war isnt a sport game and youre not obligated to root for a side

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You still need LOS so nothing happens. Put the radar on a plane and launch Switchblade 600s from a jeep to the marked targets. Now that's a gamechanga.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      > LOS
      its not that hard to look at something

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    K2 does have a Doppler radar iirc

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That kind of thermal protection isn't even 20% as effective as it would need to be for it to phase out thermals.
    It's far easier to build more sensitive optics than it is to protect against them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      > 20% effective
      > put on 4 more layers
      > 100% effective
      How is making new thermals cheaper than wearing 5 layers of clothes?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'm hoping you're being intentionally obtuse and not actually this stupid.
        But just in case you are actually this dumb, any thermal protection which would actually completely halt detection by good thermal optics would cook the vehicle itself because heat would be unable to escape in a timely manner. It's the same fundamental reason why stealth in space is borderline impossible. Any complex system produces waste energy which must be radiated, a machine that doesn't radiate is typically known as an 'oven'.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          recycle waste energy into a battery of some sort

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >recycle waste energy into a battery of some sort
            Adding a rube goldberg machine designed to trap all of the waste heat and then convert it into some kind of usable energy would require immense internal volumes just for the collection system.
            Dumping waste heat into a thermal battery is possible but it would have to be insulated from both the inside and the outside of the tank, would consume considerable volume, would only functional temporarily, and would present an immense fire hazard nearly on par with ammo storage in the event of any kind of damage.
            It's the sort of thing you could do, but probably isn't worth actually doing.

            There are systems in stealth planes that can allegedly reduce exhaust gas to ambient temp and a tank engine runs a lot cooler than a jet

            This is probably done by maintaining a store of extreme low temperature stable gas or liquid or something, and then injecting it into the exhaust stream in order to super cool it closer to ambient temperatures. It's the sort of thing that, again, you can do it for a little while and it might make a difference against some types of heat seekers and IRST - but sooner rather than later you're going to run out of super cooled matter, and keeping that matter cold in the first place requires internal volume and lots of energy.
            It's effectively a countermeasure in the same way flares and chaff are, not the kind of thing you can just leave running all the time.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          There are systems in stealth planes that can allegedly reduce exhaust gas to ambient temp and a tank engine runs a lot cooler than a jet

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Military thermal camo works by absorbing heat and re-radiating it in wavelengths which are better absorbed by the atmosphere.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, but that process is far from perfect. It helps in the same way that RAM helps against radar. You don't paint it on something and then have immunity to detection - if it were that efficient then you'd use it for far more game changing applications like lossless batteries.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Do these covers actually work?
    You sure they aren't just cope covers?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They help, but they don't help all that much. There are edge cases where someone might have detected something on a thermal and instead the corner of the tank is close enough to ambient that they miss it.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A2G radar has existed for an insanely long time and used this exact way.

    These are mostly for vic vs vic, or attempt to defeat ir guided munitions, even then they don't work well or for long.

    it's decent at keeping them hidden(talking about any country that employs it not just russian shit) in the forest when the vic is cold, otherwise it's eh at best and mostly useless.

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