Why is the PzH2k their favorite weapon system to use instead of the MARS/HIMARS?
What is the difference in actual usage?
>inb4 they just say that because they want more and tell that to everybody
Germany sent a lot of different systems, including the MARS, but the PzH2k was singled out.
Shouldn't the higher range of something like the MARS make it more popular among the Ukranian general staff? Usually the very high cost of the ammo would be an issue, but they literally get it for free.
Source:
6:15, autotranslate subtitles.
Shouldn't frickhuge missiles be able to do that too?
way more expensive.
Look at that ring, I just realized our panzerman is married.
I hope he has a lot of panzerchildren.
It's all free shit over there anyway.
wrong hand buddy, stay single
Germans wear their wedding ring on the right hand, travel more
>Spends his time looking at men's rings
Freak
10 times more expensive and way less Ammo capacity for sustained fire.
>10 times more expensive and way less Ammo capacity for sustained fire.
Actually going by the price poles originally paid adjusted by inflation and the price the Yukes just paid for 100 of them + training, setting up infrastructure, ammo etc. and ignoring the latter it's about the same price.
Meanwhile it has a way better autoloader, it's better protected, is more accurate with more range and can use better ammo.
>inb4 hurr durr muh nato standardization
Krabs aren't greenlit for vulcan ammo.
Wow, a destroyed BMP? I am demoralised.
You should be. Russia is getting curb-stomped by a country without nukes.
what are we supposed to see in that pixel party?
I don't get it. Why Russian videos are always a blurry mess, with overly frequent cuts and no follow-up footage? Why Ukies can do it but Russians don't?
Just try and open your mind for 2 seconds. And then reread what you wrote and ask yourself if someone who's objective would say a similar thing. The answer is no, an objective observer wouldn't give a frick. Youre literally a atomized propaganda aggregate serving people who want you dead.
>vatBlack person vidz all bad (even tho good ones exist)
>ukrop vidz all good( even tho some fake shit exists)
I hope ukrops and vatBlack folk create good war stories I can read and good men survive to help the respective nations. Any other position is A FALSEHOOD.
Even his hands are panzers
My guess is that it feel more impactful instantly. Hirmas might destroy the backbone and do more damage. But apparently they extremely fast counter batterie fire brings immediate relief in the area it's deployed in.
>My guess is that it feel more impactful instantly. Hirmas might destroy the backbone and do more damage. But apparently they extremely fast counter batterie fire brings immediate relief in the area it's deployed in.
this
Also if you already have them, id wager they are more cost efficient just look at that one pzh2000 clip - 1 smart, 1 airburst and a few normal shells were enough
Himars used for strategic goals, artillery for tactical goals.
This. HIMARS deletes ammo dumps, HQs, airfields, bridges, etc. But there aren't enough to use against frontline troops. that's where conventional artillery comes in, and a SPG that can fire a half-dozen rounds or more in less than a minute and then run away is a very useful platform.
>I'm President Zelensky and this is my favorite artillery system in the entire war
GMLRS has been used against mostly strategic targets, with some reports of hitting tactical targets at the start of the offensive(s). PzH2000 will be all tactical.
lmfao
stunning endorse, I just bought 5
Perfection.
Witnessed.
baste
Based and Sheppilled.
>tfw no asari gf
>tfw no quarian gf
German systems get +10% damage and accuracy bonus against Russians which results in the highest possible DPS amongst all artillery pieces currently used by Ukraine
>German systems get +10% damage and accuracy bonus against Russians which results in the highest possible DPS amongst all artillery pieces currently used by Ukraine
>only few people did notice the PzH2000 turning towards Russian position even before they were given any coordinates
>Why is the PzH2k their favorite weapon
According to who? The fricking Krauts?
The Polish Krab has been given in 4-5x greater numbers and has proven less complicated and more reliable, and you can see them rolling around every critical front line that Ukraine is fighting.
The 300 T-72M1s donated is also the most significant contribution of combat vehicles to date.
Frick the Germans.
It's not a question of which has the most impact
simply which they prefer to use
>It's not a question of which has the most impact
>simply which they prefer to use
Yeah, they prefer the Krab (less finicky, more reliable, Poland right next door for repairs etc.)
Wouldn't be surprised if the Polish even deployed their own technical staff to Ukraine to do repair on these, unlike the Krauts, who first need Putin's permission to perform repairs on any PzH 2000.
>Yeah, they prefer the Krab
They don't.
>(less finicky, more reliable,
Neither is true. The autoloader on the krab is actually less reliable and more finicky. Also just generally worse.
>Poland right next door for repairs etc.)
German repair depots are on the polish border.
Anon asked which they bought, you buy things you want.
Yes Krab was so good that our army decide to not buy more of them, and buy the K9 from Korea, PzH 2k advantage is that it is better armoured against counter battery fire, at the end of the day krab is just a upgraded AS90
>According to who? The fricking Krauts?
According to the Yukes themselves.
>The Polish Krab has been given in 4-5x greater numbers
I don't think the individual operators care. Pretty sure most guns they use are AKs, but that doesn't matter either.
>and has proven less complicated and more reliable
That is not the case.
>Frick the Germans.
How the hell do poles have such massive inferiority complexes?
Cope.
It's a superior weapon system and going by the price the ukranians paid for their 100 and the poles paid for their krab batch back in the day adjusted to inflation they have about the same price.
Ukraine has ordered 100 more PzH2000s. How many crabs did they buy so far?
54
Buy. Not get gifted, buy for money.
>Purchased?
>Ukraine has ordered 100 more PzH2000s.
Which they will receive in 3 years. Maybe 12 active currently if not already down for maintenance and shipped back.
Poland gave Ukraine over 50 Krabs NOW, engaged at the most critical times and making a difference NOW. Not in 3 years.
Again, I have to emphasize, FRICK THE KRAUTS.
That's nice. The Ukies still like the PzH2ks better. Deal with it. And now get back to cleaning those toilets, the krauts aren't paying you for shitposting on /k/.
>The Ukies still like the PzH2ks better.
t. trust me bro.
Source in the OP.
Plus them literally ordering 100.
>Source: a German officer on the payroll of KMW
Sounds legit.
That has nothing to do with anything. The thread is about how Ukraine prefers the PzH2000 and you were sperging out about that.
The fact that Ukraine would rather have 100 expensive PzH2000 for their post war army and didn't order any Krabs speaks for itself
Wrong. Ukraine purchased 3 divisions worth of Krabs to be delivered in a few months, over 50 in addition to the 18 that were given in-kind:
https://defence24.pl/przemysl/polska-sprzedala-kraby-ukrainie-rekordowy-kontrakt
Trying too hard.
>Which they will receive in 3 years. Maybe 12 active currently if not already down for maintenance and shipped back.
You refer to that item about PzH2000 experiencing faster barrel wear than expected, because Ukrainians been using them much more intensly than expected. However shots fired in relation to barrel wear was all within expected parameters. Its a modern western rapid fire high accuracy artillery system, offcourse it needs maintenance so it can continue being a rapid fire high accuracy artillery systems; its not a 2S1 Gvozdika which need 20 units firing in tandem while praying 1 will hit the target instead of a kindergarten.
>If I have more of a thing I also like it more
Calm down lad, you'll get to German quality levels eventually.
Poland has done a lot more for Ukraine overall than Germany in the last six months. That doesn't change the fact that the PzH2000 is a better gun for the current situation than the Krab.
>According to who?
The yooks.
>ACUUTALLY LE KRAB IS BETTER
>Ukies buy 100 PzH2000 Instead of Krab
damn what did they mean by this
Please stop. It's embarrassing and makes you look like seething 14yo
Nope. Schwabian lies and posturing do not deceive anyone.
You're Ostdeutsche, aren't You? Or that Polack - Kraut mischling shitposting 24/7
Literally just a garden variety polish tourist on /k/, anon. You should be able to recognize them by now.
i bet he's not even polish, his talking points are too vatnik
This
This guy gets it, he probaly just wants to start shit between germany and poland.
I used to think so too, but when there was a polish general and most posts were in polish (jannies asleep for 4 days) they showed the exact same behaviour and it didn't sound like google translate.
Germans barely care about us, no matter how hard PiStards try to meme it.
>I used to think so too, but when there was a polish general and most posts were in polish (jannies asleep for 4 days) they showed the exact same behaviour and it didn't sound like google translate.
Check pic rel - a shill who forgot to swich his vpn and deleted it when others noticed it
I don't deny that there some delusional PiS tards and le ebin edgy kids but i don't think they'd repeat Russia Today verbatim
I'm sure D&C shills exist, but I'm also sure the majority of these posters are jsut moronic PiS voters
Why are p*les so angry most of the time?
They're angry drunks and they're drunk most of the time
Cringe
Do they really?
now you just look salty
t. pole without complexes
we are on the same side, moron. if you want to work for putin, go shoveling shit in königsberg.
Why don't they add Dauerwerbesendung to the clip?
You can see the hunger for war in the german.
Well the special forces commander Roman Kostenko says the HIMARS had a mediocre impact.
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Considering that the Ukranians ate 60,000 grenades pr. day at one point I can understand how they took a liking to Western tube artillery that actually shuts up the Russian artillery instead of sporadically blowing up ammo dumps here and there.
Judging from the reaction of the Ukranians it seems like HIMARS, while being significant, is a bit overhyped by Western MSM and Sóyboys.
>is a bit overhyped by Western MSM and Sóyboys
Well it has a cool name makes big explosions and most importantly is American.
Why are Western "journalists" such onions-guzzling homosexuals?
I feel like instead of hard technical facts sometimes there may be soft factors which make systems preferred. Like how easy they are to use... or even how comfortable the seats are.
Like if you have a spine killing seat and sit in it for 10 hours and THEN have to engage in combat the combat capability of the vehicle WILL be negatively affected. You will also have to rotate the crew out more often as they have to rest their spines. But in comfortable seats they can work for a long time.
There are probably other soft factors like that such as noise.
The famous vatnik face meme was brought to you by the PzH 2000 also
Yeah, nah, c**t.
Post your gas bill this month Kraut.
I don't use gas. Never have. Only about 20% of households do.
I actually do use gas but my provider filled its tanks early on so I've got a price guarantee of it staying the same until the middle of next year.
Goes for 98% of gas users in Duisburg according to their website.
>Duisburg
I'm sorry anon.
I got an actual raise on my gas bill. It's 29€ more per month. This gas shit is one of the most overhyped nothingburgers in history.
are you sure about that anon
https://www.ndr.de/ratgeber/verbraucher/Gaspreis-aktuell-So-viel-kostet-die-Kilowattstunde,gaspreis142.html
I missed when this was spread. Can you link the video/context?
Fricking nice shot. Thanks anon.
How have you not seen this yet?
Did Reddit servers crash for you?
No, just been busy with work and social obligations.
HIMARS are also quite effectively countered by S-400 when Ivan has not piss drunk fallen asleep.
>people still falling for gay vatBlack person d&q
every thread
anon were you in the TF2 thread?
what tf2 thread
>idiot with PrepHole macro doesn't know what he's talking about
Every second of every day.
>MARS
Nobody is talking about the MLRS much, I think the implication is that it's a strategic weapon and they're keeping its use hush hush
note however that Putin keeps moaning about the MLRS and HIMARS, not the Pzh2k
I heard that the software for requesting artillery fire that the Ukrainians use, is running directly on the pzh2000 computer. If that’s true It would be a huge advantage.
>That one angry Pole who shits up every thread about g*erman or other euro military
Time to seek help and/or touch grass fren
Poles and germs have an ancient blood feud so strong it resembles autism.
Blood feud in the sense that Poles will start screeching about Germans every chance they get and Germans just making car theft jokes every now and then but generally not caring about Poland at all
We actually like Polish people. Everyone who´s ever worked in a trade job has probably had a polish collegue who´s really good at his job. Tbh, I think the biggest redpill is that polish and german people are awfully similar in terms of ethics and culture.
Can cönfirm
The entire obsession is pretty one-sided.
I hope at least Russians care about them.
>in a trade job has probably had a polish collegue who´s really good at his job.
Not only in trade nowadays.
>Germans just making car theft jokes every now and then but generally not caring about Poland at all
Yeah no you homosexuals are also screeching in Poland threads. Especially the ones where Korean shit is being talked about
you mean like the last one?
Where the moron started it with the sole purpose of shitflinging, trying to provoke as many people as possible?
I don't think that dumbass wasn't polish either
Don't conflate PrepHole autists with normal people. Autists here will start studying Malaysian history just to win an argument about the Malay military
Fair enough, anon.
You are quite possibly the neighbor we care the least about, even Belgium is more relevant to the current German Zeitgeist. Your terminally online bubble has broken your mind.
Lol Black person
>You are quite possibly the neighbor we care the least about
And you will bear the consequences for that 🙂
Where is the lie, my ally that lacks reading comprehension? 🙂
>starts cracking smiles
What consequences could these be I wonder.
You will forever live in our shadow, the German peoples only acknowledging the existence of your country briefly when they hear two cleaning ladies speak Polish.
I start cracking smiles because either you are a troll or a fool and therefore dont need to write paragraphs to counter arguments since well...see start of my sentence (:
Ok? Tell me when your median wage exceeds our NEETbuxs
Will 5k€ per month suffice in my managerial position?
Dream on
I thought so 🙂 And this is a low salary for my position currently btw.
Evidently you are doing a terrible job
>I make a lot of money
>also I suck so hard that they pay me as little as possible in my profession
lol
>scraping this hard for attacks
Youch!
It's all banter these days.
We have a lot of overlap historically and ethnically with Germans, I look up to them and wish we were more like Germany (minus the weird fetish stuff and scat and homosex).
The Panzerhaubitze 2000 is regarded as one of the best, if not the best 155mm System. Not suprising the ukrainians like it. It has a firing mode that fires projectiles at diferent angles impacting the same spot at the same time to make the number of artillery pieces seem bigger. Pretty cool to scare russians.
>Confirmed to my in Kiev
Sure thing bro lol just like the Gepard was the wunderwaffen that liberated 6000km2
>just like the Gepard was the wunderwaffen that liberated 6000km2
correct
>No confirmed kills
>No footage in-theatre, except for one where it hits a tree with its radar
THE KRAUT
HE AVOIDS WAR
HE DOES BUSINESS WITH MONGOL
wrong
>Ukies arent filming their valuable Western Equipment 24/7
>this must mean they aren't actually doing anything
moron
>Gepard
>Valuable
Yeah, in 1975.
You realize why it was withdrawn from service along with all vehicles like it? It's nothing but drone bait.
>Yeah, in 1975.
Unironically more valuable than 10 of their regular tanks.
Absolutely moronet opinion that can only exist because you have no idea what you are talking about moron. All the Gepards sent to Ukraine were modernized in 2000. The reason why Gepards were put out of service was budget cuts of the Bundeswehr in the following years.
>Modernised in 2000
>22 fricking years ago
>Stood doing frick all in the wunderwarehouse that is German military maintainance
Your kidding right? Germany is the fricking WORST country for keeping equipment in working order. Shame on you.
>22 fricking years ago
How many Wunderwaffen anyone has donated to Ukraine are meaningfully younger than that though
Holy shit you are coping so hard. Of course the Gepard that needed maintainance got it before being to Ukraine you fricking monkey
I don’t know why people are so moronic regarding it, the Gepard carries stingers.
It doesn't, Stingers on Gepards were tested but then the budget cuts happened and the entire project was closed. Image is a prototype with stingers
>imagining intensifies
>Ukranians single out Gepard as particularly useful
>ukranians think the PzH2k is their favourite weapon system
>butthurt shills think both are worthless
I guess they know better than the yukes what the yukes like
Its Polaks and Vatniks blindly seething
Bro are you moronic EVERYTHING is filmed, NLAWs point blank, HIMARs in the rear, AA systems going off left right and centre.
The Gepard is a huge fricking meme brother don't be such a moron thinking everyone's a pole or a bong it's kinda what a schizophrenic would do.
>Everything is filmed
Show me more than one video of a Ukrainian s-400 system visibly firing (not filmed 3km away from the launcher)
Ukraine doesn't operate the S400 you stupid c**t
What about the s400 systems that got donated you moron?
>What about the S400 that was donated
It wasn't you stupid c**t
Kek, who is this idiot? Typical Gepard fan boys, completely deluded.
lmao the seethe over a one word response. Very efficient
When was the last time Germany used a Leopard 2 in a combat zone
The frick do I care
What's the point of this skeletonised stroke victim if they have never used a tank?
Can you provide proof of this or did it come to you in a dream?
What's the point of you seething over nothing
>B-but your seething
Frick no lol I'm laughing like frick at this unexperienced loser and all his fan boys. A French AMX30 driver from 1991 has more of a clue that that idiot by default.
Idc if you OP do you have proof of them saying the PzH2k is better than everything else, don't get your knickers in a twist m8 it's only a question and no I will not accept turbo jaw's promise that the Ukies said it was zie best!
What the frick are you even talking about? He said that he got told by some Ukrainians that they liked the PzH2000 the best. What's the problem with that
Eternal polish asshurt causing endless seethe about anything German
Most of polish politics is just going on about Germans being the devil and that they should pay ten gorillion in reparations
There might be no Ukrainian that used both the Krab and the PzH2000 since they're deployed in different battallions.
He talked to the upper echelons of the army and officers, some of them have probably commanded both already but I guess they mostly just told him troop feedback mixed with what they've experienced while commanding their men.
He got told by people in the ministry of defense not by on the ground operators but whatever. I'm sorry I by proxy insinuated your nice little crab is a worse weapon. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings friend
Oh so you don't think their could be a chance they perhaps just told him it was good to get more stuff for free? What a gullible c**t you are.
No proof then just the word of a moron with zero experience of modern warfare then? Gotcha
>Its da Poles!!!
Frick no lol
So no then? We know it's barrel fricks up alot and the spares take a long time which makes it pretty shit if it can't fire.
Just seem like alot of nationalistic Germans desperately hoping for a win at last after such a catastrophic embarresment on the world stage.
Take this
guy as a prime example.
>So no then?
What? It's still in the thread.
>We know it's barrel fricks up alot
No it doesn't, if you'd have any experience with guns you'd know all barrels wear out if used too much and they have better barrels than krabs depending on the version.
Since Rheinmetall made the early ones iirc and then they got a cheap copy, which is worse.
>and the spares take a long time
Source?
>ust seem like alot of nationalistic [Poles] desperately hoping for a win at last after such a catastrophic embarresment on the world stage.
Polish history in a nutshell
Proof other than the head of Germans scrap yards personal conversation with himself?
>barrel and spares
Familiarise yourself with the topic before posting idiocy
>Der Spiegel reported on July 29 that Panzerhaubitze 2000 self propelled artillery guns, widely touted by Western sources as the most capable in the world, were showing significant signs of “wear and tear” after just a month in service - with the guns only having been delivered and the end of June. This has resulted in guns breaking down, forcing Ukraine to rely more on its artillery acquired from other sources.
>A further issue with the Panzerhaubitze 2000 has been its poor compatibility with ammunition from other NATO member states despite a strong emphasis in the alliance on interoperability.
It's just not very good
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/german-weapons-poor-failing-ukraine-turkey
>The vaunted German quality did not stand the test in real combat conditions, as a result, two-thirds of the Panzerhaubitze 2000 simply broke down "due to intensive use." The spare parts that come with the guns, according to the German politician, "are not always suitable for routine repairs." In addition, many howitzers are so damaged that they require major repairs, which can only be done in a special workshop
>Poland again
Why so obsessed with the toilet cleaners? Is it because they are making fools out of you in Ukraine? Or because they ditched the Leo 2 further orders for K2s? Or because they are spending a frick ton more than you on Defence in future and your hyped up €100bn injection has fallen flat?
>Proof other than the head of Germans scrap yards personal conversation with himself?
Their purchase :^)
>Familiarise yourself with the topic before posting idiocy
Why don't you ever do that yourself?
They needed maintenance after being over-used, they didn't break down, that's fake news or a wrong translation, whatever you prefer, they sent warning messages about requiring maintenance.
That's all.
Did you just lie or actually believe your own bullshit?
>It's just not very good
It is the best.
> two-thirds of the Panzerhaubitze 2000 simply broke down "due to intensive use."
Fake news.
0 broke down.
Breaking down and needing maintenance after a month of over-use, which is normal, are not the same thing.
>Why so obsessed with the toilet cleaners?
Don't pretend you aren't the same guy from before now lmao
Here's news for you:
The reason the German howitzers were overused is because Ukranians prefer them to polish garbage.
>Purchase of Pzh2k
You mean the money you gave to them that they can only spend with German companies?
>It's fake news
Cry me a river you soft twat. Its all over google how they are breaking read the title of the article you sperg. They break way before they are supposed too because the quality isn't very good.
I'm sorry you feel bad about this.
>Best
When it works, it's no good having a system that works 5/10 times you used it when another system works 10/10 times. Sounds unreliable to me and also the source I posted and the other sources available.
>Breaking down
Needing maintainance, yeh maintenance Germany didn't send the parts for you fricking idiot. As stated earlier which you decided to ignore.
>The spare parts that come with the guns, according to the German politician, "are not always suitable for routine repairs." In addition, many howitzers are so damaged that they require major repairs, which can only be done in a special workshop
>Everyone on /k/ is the same
Schizo, why does Poland trigger you so much lol
I guess you are actually moronic and not just pretending
>See source
>Don't like it
>You are liar!
Why are they like this?
>"source" doesn't even get basic info or lingo right and is based on a mistranslation
lel
>do you have proof of them saying the PzH2k is better than everything else
Nobody with any idea on the subject ever doubted that lmao
In the OP.
Also 100 German howitzers bought.
Did they buy 100 krabs?
No?
Maybe because the autoloader sucks?
Maybe because it isn't reliable?
Or maybe because it is actually just a semiautoloader?
Or maybe because the krab has worse performance?
Maybe it's none of those things.
But I don't care, I'm still gonna laugh at you.
>Also 100 German howitzers bought.
>Did they buy 100 krabs?
>No?
They didn't buy it because Polish factories already work at 100%, trying to complete orders for Ukraine and meet theor own needs and can't make 100 Krabs in a month. That 57 Krabs they are buying are comming from ones in warehouses and ones that will be finished assembling. Germany however had a lot of their artillery just laying around in storage and unused.
I doubt that Ukies would buy anything from Germans if they had to wait a year to get only a dozen of brand new and fresh howitzer. They needed something relatively useful and ready for deployment ASAP. If poles had hundreds of artillery hardware laying around Ukies would gladly guy all of them.
Basically your argument is that Ukies buy German artillery because they like them. While in reality this was matter of availability.
>can't make 100 Krabs in a month
Neither can Germany. Those 100 PzH2000s will be delivered in batches over the course of years not months.
Lmao u dumb c**t. At least you can fanboy over a tank general that's never been seen combat or a training exercise with more than 3 tanks. Sad.
>Shouldn't the higher range of something like the MARS make it more popular among the Ukranian general staff?
General staff aside shit like counter battery fire makes it instantly popular among soldiers kinda like barely anyone gave a shit about long range bomber pilots but a fighter pilot thet chases away enemy planes harrassing your grunts becomes a instant celebrity
poles on suicide watch
NGL was hoping for Nana Ehlers.
The time is 4:15.
10.23 indeed.
I love it when he busts out the markers and start drawing graphs. I doubt any German has loved the business of war this much since Rommel.
>german general anounced the ukrainian politician said...
Let's watch what Ukrainian soldiers say.
>polish soldier who uses Krab instead of pzh2k says krabs are better than soviet artillery
Impressive. The German howitzer is still better and more popular though.
#undefeated
Kraut response: 404
Radio Free Europe has the same videos about the Pzh2K, moron. Unless they give a direct comparison between them instead of Soviet stuff there is nothing to say except for OP. Poland may as well ask too what they like the most.
>15:50
>Ukrainian armed forces need amphibians
based af
Probably quicker response time to fire support requests and counter battery.
>Be Germany
>don't give weapons
>have Scholz say your weapons are decisive
>have others paid to say your weapons are great
>meanwhile in reality...
>Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany Andrij Melnyk offered his own frank assessment in response: “Unpopular opinion: Frick off.”
>>don't give weapons
Only the UK and the US gave more.
>Ukraine’s ambassador
*ex
He lost his job.
Of course he did. He told them to frick off lmao.
>third most valuable gibs giver
>tell them to frick off because you either fall for your own moronic propaganda of pretending Germany doesn't send anything or you're so fricking tone-deaf you can't tell when you overdo it
He wasn't doing his country any favors by being a moron in Germany.
>US UK
Yeh Poland is infront also and the quality of what Germany sent isn't very good, their are high ticket items on the whole list but the majority of it is just shit like adblue and crap stuff but it inflates the total donation and makes Germany look better than it is, when in reality CZ gave much more important stuff.
4th
>Yeh Poland is infront also
Nope, you're far behind.
>the quality of what Germany sent isn't very good
lel, cope
>but the majority of it is just shit like adblue and crap stuff
Nope.
>when in reality CZ gave much more important stuff.
First of all, small shit is necessary as well.
Second of all, there's plenty of other things.
>4th
Third.
Stay mad about it.
>cope cope cope; the post
Its okay, Hans. Time will be our judge and when the dust settled we will see who is on top. And please stop pretending to be all cool with Poland you backstabbing basedcucks. Just recently you made Slovenia terminate their BOXER deal with you since you tried to frick them over.
https://www.defensemirror.com/news/32736/Slovenia_to_Terminate____281M_Boxer_APC_Deal#.YyTM7T-bGdM
>Time will be our judge and when the dust settled we will see who is on top
That one always worked well for slavoids lmao
tldnr you didn't know what you were talking about or lied, glad we cleared that up
>absolutely zero coherent counterargumentation in his post
Shame!
>Matej Tonin, the former defence minister who signed the agreement, called the termination “exceptionally damaging” and driven by nothing but “stubborn political opposition to the previous government.”
>Putting an end to the deal was one of the promises the Golob government made when it took office in June.
Kek
lmao how little has to be happening in your country that people start campaigning around the procurement of some APCs
Gotta say they are living the dream if the gov literally is contrarian just the spite the former gov. This is some own the libs tier stuff.
>Just recently you made Slovenia terminate their BOXER deal with you since you tried to frick them over.
Tonin, the former defence minister who signed the agreement, called the termination “exceptionally damaging” and driven by nothing but “stubborn political opposition to the previous government.”
an end to the deal was one of the promises the Golob government made when it took office in June.
Why does the shill always lie?
>Your far behind
Personally im way infront of both you you combined, but as you will be upset to see Poland is infront of you lol
>10 tons of Adblue
What's the value of that? Because its included in your overall donation and it's pure garbage a waste of logistics. There is lots of examples on Germanys list.
>4th
Lmao how embarresing for you pls see picrel, Germans truly are so fricking stupid I bet you are this clown
>august
Nice try, anon.
>"plsplpplsplsspls give me attention"
Have a (You)
>Now I am the (You) farmer, not him
Weak projection. Last (You)
>August
>Last month
The cope on this c**t, care to correct me with September's or do you just want to hide from the truth fricking Poland is more capable than you lmao
Cant be living in reality and in a uncle Adolf dream
world at the same time. Fuhrer would be turborotating in his grave if he'd know about the current broomstick armies jej
Watch the krautroach scurry away now he has been confronted with the truth about the unreliable PzH2k despite what the skinny man with a dress up uniform said and also to add insult to injury they have realised they aren't in the top 3 donators at all and 50% of what they did donate was pure shit.
PzH2k is highly reliable and being able to overuse a heavy vehicle like that for an entire month while only needing some maintenance is actually impressive.
Germany sent the third most military equipment.
What Germany sent is both very useful, necessary and some of the best shit around.
The 5 MARS launchers always get overlooked for some reason.
>50% of what they did donate was pure shit.
Based on what? A small part of it being Adblue which you've been shittalking in half a dozen posts because you literally can't afford a card?
Post guns on engine block, tourist.
It's shit because it's not polish
I'm sure there's a polish Adblue brand.
>Where is the lie, my ally that lacks reading comprehension? 🙂
In every single one of your posts, actually.
>they aren't in the top 3 donators
Remove all the shit other nations have given because they got free shit from Germany for that. Everyone can see you venting like a troon, but you aren't pretty strong when it comes to actual arguments.
>Stage 5: Acceptance
>That's entirely expected. You've had a major change in your life, and that upends the way you feel about many things. Look to acceptance as a way to see that there may be more good days than bad. There may still be bad
>There may still be bad
Obviously, they are German kek
>angloid still this mad about the fact he betrayed the white race twice and lost his empire for it
kek
>What's the value of that?
Diesel exhaust fluid?
Anon, do you own a car?
And why do you keep pretending that's the only thing on the list with 100k grenades, millions of rounds of ammo and all kinds of radar systems, 24k man portable anti tank weapons and much more?
Here's the list, enjoy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#The_German_Government_announced_that_it_will_send_Ukraine_the_following
>Adblue in Ukraine
>thinking Ukraine the poorest country in Europe needs Adblue for fricking Ladas and military kit donated out of everyone's mothballed stock
Cope hard you simpleton they aren't driving around in Golf GTDs
It's used for all kind of vehicles.
What the frick are you talking about?
It's necessary to run a fleet of motorized vehicles.
Man I really hope this is a samegay because the thought that multiple people are seething this much about shit they don't understand would be rather depressing.
>Adblue
Multiple vehicles, shut the frick up its Ukraine you think gay emissions laws matter there and they don't just flash the ecu and delete the need for it entirely? This is how broken you are by regulations you up tight freak.
>Fleet of modern vehicles
Bmp1/2, T series tanks, Mtlbs, military vehicles from the UK/Poland/US/Czech/Aus do not need adblue.
Germany is a fricking joke.
Have you ever thought about that the reason why Germany hasn't taken the lead in weapon deliveries might be that they just don't care that much? That they're just not that invested in Ukraine winning?
In which case all your yelling and arguing and seething doesn't really achieve anything because you know they don't really care. All you ship out is shit!!! Ok? So what? I didn't pressure my Bundestag person hard enough so now more Ukies have to die. Oh well
>>10 tons of Adblue
>What's the value of that?
Actually that shit is kinda expensive.
Yeh it is so it inflates the overall donation making Germany look more usefull than it is which then spurs these autismo krauts on 4chins on and gives them false hope they are more relevant than Czechia lol
Is this British?
No, American.
He didn't lose his job. He was retiring at the end of the month. Don't let facts get in the way of your seethe.
Polebro, pls stop seething so hard itt, it is not healthy for your heart. Have a borovička. Call your mum. Chill.
t. Czech
>Polebro, pls stop seething so hard itt, it is not healthy for your heart. Have a borovička. Call your mum. Chill.
>t. Czech
this
I suspect we might need Hans Landa for this one
>NATO countries are fighting over whose weapons the Ukies like the best to vaporize vatniks with
This is not the WW3 I was promised
But I'll take it
this whole thread proves germans can't meme
All of /k/ except for butthurt tourists like him.
>Kraut status: Fragile
>not the first post by this ID
>anon was so butthurt he had to add a post directed at nobody to express his anger
lmao
The common Polish L
This is just sad
yeah it's common sense this willhelmshavener Madel is the best Girl
Somebody got a video of Gepard in action in ukraine?
Reminder that germany has easily outperformed poland in aid to ukraine. Both in total and per gdp.
Don't bully the moronic sperg too much.
You utterly moronic krauts. NO Poland is above Germany in terms of total aid given to Ukraine
being on 3rd place with its $1,8 billion while Germany is below and comes after on 4th place with $1,2 billion. And when it comes to per capita, then again NO, Poland is again amongst the top 3 (after Estonia and Latvia) while Germany is only on 13th place.
P.S. Germans are utterly stupid and pathetic. It’s really not that hard to double check widely known stats.
>’s really not that hard to double check widely known stats
But it's way more fun to just write lazy one sentence answers and watch the resulting chaos
>while Germany is below and comes after on 4th place with $1,2 billion.
Oh, and I forgot to add, that those German $1,2 billion are propped by tons of fricking AdBlue which propped them up to the 4th position, and they wouldn’t even be there at 4th place without that huge “eco” useless shit. Absolutely cringe.
Germany has sent plenty of adblue to Ukraine. 10 tons so far.
>PzH2000
did they fix the issue where you can't fire the gun from inside the vehicle and so you literally have to have a guy walk outside and yank on a rope?
The issue with PZH2k is that the autoloader is faulty and breaks easily. Krabs are more reliable.