It's been a while since I debunked few of countless NATO myths, so I thought I'd do a couple more. Today we will be talking about supply and logistic. A proper logistical supply is "super important" right? Well, that's what the West wants you to believe. In fact, in history we've seen the opposite come true. And in more recent events, Ukraine. Here are the issues you get by oversupplying your soldiers and why supply isn't really as important.
1. Fat soldiers fight worse.
This is the most obvious reason. Constantly supplying your soldiers with food will cause them to get fat. Also, after eating you get tired. That's literally not what you want in your military, fat and lazy soldiers. Unless you are NATO of course.
2. Soldiers shoot better with less ammo
Russia really pulled a mastermind move with that. By having less ammo, soldiers have to be more accurate in order to get the job done. Who is more efficient:
>Oh, I have 20 million rounds left, what does it matter if I waste a magazine or two.
or
>I have one magazine left, I must make every bullet count.
3. Every great victory in history was done by fighters, not logistics.
Combat soldiers fight and win. I don't know why people put so much importance on logistics when they don't do anything but drive stuff around.
4. It encourages soldiers to make gains.
If you have little food, and you need more, then taking ground and conquering cities will give you that supply. Nobody fights harder for food than a starving man.
5. Russia's soldiers are exceptionally tough.
We've recently seen veterans in their 50s join the fighting, proving that even the seniors are capable of fighting. Russians don't need as much supply because they are just extremely good at what they are doing. They are sturdy and resilient.
6. It's too expensive and not worth it.
Trucks, food and ammo are expensive and aren't worth it, as shown by my previous points.
That's it for now, thanks for your attention, I rest my case.
A+ tier effort
bravo
you homosexuals wouldn’t get irony if it hit you with a sledgehammer
cope the russian side dropped ramblings like 'it was a feint bro', 'the biobirds will genocide the slavs', 'nato generals in mariupol', 'tsunami weapons', among other hilarious material
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
Have a (you), jackass
diggy
High effort OP
>actually we don’t need supplies
never change
tl;dr
post snek island
>we dont NEED to eat
I agree. Russia is absolutely genius and doesn't let petty ethics get in the way like the EU or NATO does. Feeding your soldiers makes them addicted to nutrients, which results in them getting fat and weak. Logically, denying them sustenance makes them strong and motivated, ensuring victory!
>this entire cope
This is some /chug/-tier coping
It's not coping, Im 99% sure OP is taking the piss out of the chug/vatBlack folk for the lulz. But it sounds exactly like something theyd say unironically
I think the most depressing part is that people genuinely think like this, and the completely serious replies this will get.
Pretty good satire. I actually think there are people in this thread that this went over the head of. Then again, given the actual cope we see from the shills who can blame them.
Love it!
Man this is great news for Africa, they dont have to worry after all.
Nothing is better proof that this board has been flooded with tourists than people falling for bait this obvious.
Tbf if you stopped reading after the first paragraph I could get he confusion
Idk why you'd do that though, it'd be stupid
You are such a fricking moron it's unreal.
russia is doing better BECAUSE they are closer to their supply lines, and because Ukraine is farther away from theirs. It's the same reason that they got utterly cucked in the opening stages of the war, and why a massive amount of russian materiel ended up getting abandoned and captured.
And even with shortened supply lines, and massing the ENTIRE invasion force on one target, and having local allies in the DPR/LPR, and having the geographical advantage, and having 10x the enemy's artillery, they are still struggling to take a city in the poorest region of Ukraine.
Realtalk, what do you honestly think would happen if you tried to fight an actual NATO military conventionally? Ukraine is getting our scraps and old surplus equipment, and about 5% of our total intelligence capabilities. How will you cope when your entire airforce and artillery gets annihilated by coordinated airstrikes the first day after you decide to go full moron and attack Poland or Lithuania?
>after eating you get tired.
>by having less ammo, soldiers have to be more accurate
>Nobody fights harder for food than a starving man.
Maybe you should give your boys pointed sticks and loincloths too. That way they'll have to become extremely accurate with the pointed sticks, and they'll learn to dodge bullets because they know that they can't rely on body armor.
this is the worst thread currently on the board
10/10
Post it on /misc/
I want to see people react
That's actually the first time I looked at /misc/. Jesus, half that thread is just screaming "israelite" over and over. How do these people function?
They don't. But that's due to the israelite SJW leftist marxist commie liberals NWO Zog Illumanit's fault.
Once I saw a schizophrenic man in the street shouting "Jews put shit in my ass."
>anon’s back shitposting again
I’ll keep giving you 8/8 if you keep the b8 coming anon, you’re doing the Lord’s work
>Nothing is better proof that this board has been flooded with tourists, than morons like you who think it's bait, instead of irony.
>ironic shitposting is not a shitposting, I swear!
>pic related has caused more dead Russians than any NATO rocket
>It encourages soldiers to make gains.
>If you have little food, and you need more, then taking ground and conquering cities will give you that supply. Nobody fights harder for food than a starving man.
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No, it's called a "joke", you moron. It's meant to make you laugh.
I knew it was taking a piss the more and more I read into it, but frick me doesn't it read like a /chug/ post.
10/10 bait.
yeah bro
war is all about the cool shit
like tanks going vrooom and boom
and planes going vooooosh and tatatatatatatata fwoooosh booom
and badass operators with guns and kung fu and stuff
and big rockets going BOOOOOM
logistics is just nerd shit
Post Snake Island
Post Northern Front
Post Moskva
Post Odessa landings
Post functioning air power
Post intact ammo depots
Post PGMs
Post missiles that actually hit their targets
Post Russian soldier that hasn't had their butthole resized
Post negative HIV test
Post relatives over the age of 70
Post encrypted comms
Post unexpired rations
Post optics
Post NVGs
Post an AA system that hasn't routinely gotten dunked on
Post living VDV
Post sugar
Post bread
Post non defaulted currency
Post domestic industry that can process raw goods
Post domestic semiconductor industry
Post what you think Russia will gain even if they control 100% of Ukrainian soil
Post Baltic Sea control
Post how much you've begged literal third worlders for your artillery shells back
Post river crossings without double digit casualty rates
Post aircraft not routinely dunked by MANPADs
Post Post Hostomel
Post sensor suites in a non potato resolution
Post Officers that aren't dead
Post a competent NCO corps
Post Kyiv
Post intact supply trains
Post control of the Black Sea
Post Russians being a-okay with returning to an pre-Industrial agrarian economy
Post Finland and Sweden not being NATO members
Post how you feel about being dependent on China and India
Post crying babushkas over the losses of their sons
Post the Oligarchs sitting comfy while they destroy the legacy of your entire culture
Post how Russians feel about being viewed the world over as one tiny step better than North Korea
Post police blackbagging protestors
Post families being denied the money for the death of their sons
Post literally any positive outcome Russian can expect to have even if they 'win'
>Post crying babushkas over the losses of their sons
https://streamable.com/hznq55
The thread that broke /k/
VatBlack folk are so deluded that I literally can no longer tell the difference between them and shitposters.
There was never any difference. It just took some people longer than others to start seeing it.
>it's Vatniks' fault I'm moronic
Yeah, nah.
>I debunked few of countless NATO myths
Stopped reading right there. Many obliged.
It's just autism, anon. This place is crawling with it. If their senior English teacher hadn't told them ahead of time, they'd have asked her why schools still taught tripe like Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" in schools.
Yeah aspies can't get sarcasm.
>1. Fat soldiers fight worse.
Major General Pavel to thread.
kek, should've swapped 6 with 4 for better progression of laughter
>there are now "people" on /k/ who will unironically believe OP is Russian
Nicely done op but you need to highlight the importance of condoned rape within Russian millitary, how it reinforces command structure, increases obedience etc...
>jesus watching your parents have sex so he can put your soul in your zygote
I realize the "Russia running out of ammo" / "Ukraine having unlimited ammo" is a state sponsored info war technique spammed on boards like this to try and impact morale among russians or their online supporters, but in real life, intelligence agents actually are warned against making such judgments
At 17:25, this former CIA leader actually explains the concept
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Did the guy on the left run the "Snake Island" simulator cuz Russia lost that motherfricker lol.
Russia is in Day 127 of a 2 day war. If you think Russia is doing anything close to 'winning' you're moronic.
You are moronic if you think demilitarizing a country with a larger military than any european NATO member was supposed to take 2 days.
Russia sure did. That's why on February 26th they posted articles announcing their victory.
The day of reckoning will come for shameless people like you. Until then, try and troll places where people have the memory of a goldfish, like
or facebook.
Day of reckoning is here for supporters of criminal european states used for money laundering by democrats. Adding your tears to the swamp wont make it drain any slower.
proofs?
>proofs?
They pulled the articles (obviously) but archive sites held it, here.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html
The only thing worth laughing at here is you thinking that is a good use of your time!
>n-no you
hohol fatigue is real. Look at this poor little shill cant even come up with its own response.
Article appears to be about how the special operation is ushering in the multi polar world, not declaring that victory on the ground was already fully achieved. We can see this today. Despite the US/UK butthurt machine running at full speed, countries such as India are doing MORE trade with Russia. Russian energy revenues are UP this year. Iran is joining BRICS, which must be horrifying to the globalists. In blowing the rest of their load on the Russian sanctions, it cheapens all the existing sanctions, showing serious cracks in the globalist grip.
>not declaring that victory on the ground was already fully achieved
Did you even read it?
>Now there is no such problem — Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be rebuilt, re-established and returned to its natural state of a part of the Russian world. In what borders, in what form will the union with Russia be consolidated (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus)? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as an anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end.
>Now there is no such problem — Ukraine has returned to Russia
>RETURNED TO RUSSIA
That's declaring victory.
And then
>And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era — it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in geopolitical terms as a single whole. These relations have entered a new stage — the West sees Russia returning to its historical borders in Europe. And he loudly resents this, although deep down I have to admit to myself that it could not have been any other way.
>Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in geopolitical terms as a single whole
>single whole
Again, saying Ukraine has been added to the Union with Belarus and Russia. Declaring Ukraine is theirs.
Then
>Did anyone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believe that Moscow would abandon Kiev?
Then
>Because the rest of the world sees and understands perfectly well — this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlantists, this is Russia's return of its historical space and its place in the world.
>Russia's return of its historical space
Finally why did they pull it if it wasn't a mistake lol?
And as I ran out of space translating for you
>game. Russia has not just challenged the West — it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over
this is literally them gloating that they succeeded lol.
Lots of future tense there. But lets say that this one article really did declare victory on 26 Feb for discussion. It would be the same as Hussein supporters coping by saying "But Bush declared mission accomplished years ago, so he cant really win now". semantics is not going to give Ukraine their country back lol
>semantics is not going to give Ukraine their country back lol
And all the shilling in the world isn't going to give it to Russia lol...
>Lots of future tense there
What do you fricking mean 'future tense' it literally says that Ukraine has returned to Russia, that is is now a single whole, that it says why did the West think it'd abandon Kiev and finally that it had returned to Russia's historical space.
It's right there. I went to the trouble of translating it for you. There is no future tense there. They claimed Ukraine had returned and then immediately pulled it. The article was published on the 26th Feb and it was pulled shortly after.
Read it yourself.
>Now the West is trying to punish Russia for having returned, for not justifying its plans to profit at its expense, not allowing it to expand the Western space to the east
>EXPAND
>B-b-b-but this is future tense!!
>Now there is no such problem — Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be rebuilt
>Ukraine has returned to Russia
Acknowledgement of the change which occurred in 2022 mixed with wieneriness. Not a (you can see below) declaration victory already occurred.
>This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be rebuilt
This does not mean statehood will be liquidated, this is future tense and acknowledges that Ukranian statehood still exists (for now)
Funny how you are pouring over Russian news articles and doing mental gymnastics like a calvanist twisting the Bible.
Not that anon, but
>Ukraine has returned to Russia
>Has returned
That's past tense, indicating that this article believed Ukraine had already returned to the Russian sphere. Obviously, since it's still fighting over a hundred days later, that hasn't happened yet. Suspicious, no?
"This does not mean that Ukranian statehood WILL be liquidated".
Imagine your dog was kidnapped by your ex on her way out. You go over there and say "Dog is mine now, that doesn't mean I am going to liquidate you, but you it her over now". She could cope for the end of time about how you said the dog was yours before you finished picking it up.
>"but you it her over now"
what
hand it over now*
The point is that the first sentence is a general declaration, and the specific statement about implementation was future tense and acknowledged that Ukranian statehood will not be destroyed.
Hell of an optimistic "general declaration" then lol. Maybe you should have saved those for after the Special Operation was finished, assuming Kiev was just a feint lol
Declaring the desired end result at the start of a conflict is the first step. US declared independence from Britain in 1776 but it was years later before the military implementation was finished. We did not stop the conflict with sad pictures of victims and pledging "limited actions to protect innocents" as the current trend. We declared that the US has left the British Empire then fight like hell. Russia entered the conflict declaring that Ukraine has returned to them.
That's the ironic thing, though. Someone can declare themselves independent and start fighting, because that's what a declaration of independence means. It opens up hostilities. You are actually independent until and unless you end up losing the war. On the other hand, you don't declare someone "returned to" your sphere of influence until you've actually subjugated them first. It's also another reason nobody believes you when you're saying your 'liberating' the hohols, for that matter.
lmao, your cope is almost palpable.
You're hanging off a single Russian news article trying to prove that Russia is winning too slowly. Look at your life right now haha.
Uhhh... yes! Logistics ans supply are feminine fields, unbefitting of manly Russian bear, w- they should continue as they have before. Clearly Russian army is superios to all and there is nothing condescendung Amerikan HATO can teach us. Intel smegma z!!1
Not having any logistics also makes an army far better at operating in difficult terrain, you don't need roads to carry your supplies if you don't have any supplies
>Russia really pulled a mastermind move with that. By having less ammo, soldiers have to be more accurate in order to get the job done
Picrel.
>I don't know why people put so much importance on logistics when they don't do anything but drive stuff around.
It's because it's comfy to drive a truck, anon. Americans are better than warfare because they can replace running around in mud with driving around in their oversized "logistics" mobility scooters.
Which side would you rather fight for - one which has to run a marathon every day, or one where you can sit behind the wheel, sip beer, and chill?
>giving soldiers food makes them fat, so we should have them starve instead
>if you have less bullets in your gun, your gun magically shoots better
>logistics just drives around randomly, useless
>the less food soldiers have, the more they want to attack
>50 year old veterans are superior to 20 year olds
>logistics is too expensive
This is Warhammer 40k ork logic. All that it is missing is "red paint makes your tank go faster".
Damn, now I want Banechoppas to be a real thing.
russian soldiers fight better when they get raped by their seniors too.
Are you guys still mad about Finland and Sweden, snake island, or something else?
Agree unironically