There is two chambers, it rotates like a revolver. The lifter pushes a round into the bottom chamber. Headspacing must be a complete bitch on this thing
A gun that looks like it could exist, just unbullpup a Desert Eagle giving it a Mauser broomhandle style frame.
Bullpup is defined as the action being behind the trigger, not the magazine.
In handguns, the hammer and firing pin sit above the trigger, just like in any conventional rifle.
Conventional handguns are not bullpups.
Iirc then in-universe, that gun is completely custom made for the express purpose of killing a specific heavely armored target. So it wasnt meant to be a reliable sidearm that is widely used
>completely unsuited for mass production
Don't know about that, a hand-cannon that can put down a cyberpsycho has a lot of utility in Night City.
MaxTac should carry these as their standard issue side-arm. Fucking NCPD should, or maybe not, that old cop telling the young rookie to not fuck with psychos because that's what MaxTac is for does spring to mind.
The NCPD has had their budget cut and become more and more neutered, since the death of the cities founder. It would make sense for MaxTac to be issued with type of gun, or something of equeal force.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>completely unsuited for mass production
Don't know about that, a hand-cannon that can put down a cyberpsycho has a lot of utility in Night City.
MaxTac should carry these as their standard issue side-arm. Fucking NCPD should, or maybe not, that old cop telling the young rookie to not fuck with psychos because that's what MaxTac is for does spring to mind.
why do they even bother with guns? why not just go straight for ATGMs.
or hell, a fucking FPV-PG7 would fuck somebody up regardless of how many mods they wear
1 month ago
Anonymous
>why do they even bother with guns? why not just go straight for ATGMs.
There's a MaxTac squad that drops on some pretty regular gangbangers during the opening cinematic drive from the scavhaunt to your watson megabuilding.
The lead shooter on that team doesn't bother with firearms, he's packing the arm-mounted micro-missile launcher and just blows the whole car up, which is a bit unfortunate for the peeps who were being car-jacked in it but that's Night City for you.
1 month ago
Anonymous
MaxTac is staffed by sanctioned Cyberpsychos. They dont give a fuck about civilian casualties, because they dont have to care.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>MaxTac is staffed by sanctioned Cyberpsychos. They dont give a fuck about civilian casualties, because they dont have to care.
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By reconditioned cyberpsychos I think. Mostly, the captain isn't psycho (yet), you can read his memoirs where he was worried about going psycho so he gives his wife a high-powered hand cannon and tells her to shoot him in the head in his sleep if he starts twitching or saying weird shit.
I think it's a mix of reconditioned psychos and old badges.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Theres supposedly no cure for CPsychosis, but we dont really know what MaxTac does with perps they capture. So i wouldnt put it past them, to actively recruit from victims.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>but we dont really know what MaxTac does with perps they capture
There's some lore items in CP2077 that give hints. The conversation with the mtac in the fashion store (who is the psycho from the teaser vid) and some logs in the River Ward quest I think.
Some sort of brain-wiping or VR conditioning or something is done. I think it pretty much fucks the original personality but it's a possible judicial sentence or something.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Makes sense. BTW could the MaxTac convoy you ambush in the DlC neat Adam Smasher? If they get the chance to prepare and ambush him.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>BTW could the MaxTac convoy you ambush in the DlC neat Adam Smasher?
I haven't played the DLC yet. I just started a new play-through but haven't had time to really get into it and I'm not up to whatever you need to do to be invited into the DLC.
I think any full MaxTac squad could take Adam Smasher with prep though, they don't usually have much problem taking down 'borgs even if they might lose one or two expendable former-psychos themselves on a bad day. Smasher is kind of a lucid cyberpsycho, he's pretty fucked up even when he's not in a full body borg suit but his main super-power is that although he's indifferent or enthusiastic about collateral damage, he's not as reckless as most cyberpsychos and retains survival instinct and cunning.
His borg suits are state of the art but they're still just a better-than-average combat chassis, he'll eventually drop to the same kinds of high-calibre/AT stuff you use on other total conversion suits.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Im not going to spoil anything. But the MaxTac convoy you fight, has a cybersquad(4 specialist MaxTac units), several high tier human agents(Probably the equivalent to SWAT), and a squad or two of advanced combat bots. So besides the main squad, MaxTac still have plenty of resources to throw at Adam
1 month ago
Anonymous
Total conversions are exceedingly rare, though, especially heavy combat ones. And with Smasher you then get the problem that unlike a normal one (which have to be half-sedated and essentially puppeted by an onboard AI to prevent them going psycho) he's both fully lucid and an extremely experienced combatant.
The only way I can make sense of the Malorian is that it is like gas delayed blow forward and piston driven rotating bolt.
The bolt is rotated by an electric motor in the grip.
1 month ago
A Lady of Repute
Thats retarded but makes sense in the context. Guess it would be easier than regulating and timing two different action types together.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>unlike a normal one (which have to be half-sedated and essentially puppeted by an onboard AI to prevent them going psycho)
that's only the dragoon, secondary.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Credit where it’s due, this still applies since Adam’s 2077 body is a modified EIC Dragoon.
1 month ago
Anonymous
according to a guy that had absolute no hand in writing it and just 'answers' questions on reddit for attention. it doesn't even make any fucking sense since it would be FIFTY years out of date, or modified so heavily that only the frame is the same.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Mike Pondsmith literally said it was heavily modified. Anyway, it’s not like old/ancient shit doesn’t get used IRL either. My main complaint is that at no point did he use a new mark of Dai-Oni, which would have been sick.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>it doesn't even make any fucking sense since it would be FIFTY years out of date
didn't the datakrash literally destroy the net and all data records and technical data packages of all current tech in 2023 setting back tech to whatever somehow not destroyed or what they could reverse engineer?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Bartmoss really fucked everyone over, didn't he?
1 month ago
Anonymous
tidbits I read or was told by anons told me he had it on a deadman's switch and Arasaka killed him with a spacelaser setting it off
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yes that’s true. >T. 2020 fa/tg/uy
Also pondsmith is a hack, ignore his gay reddit attentionwhoring
1 month ago
Anonymous
Well, the other part is that the black net is filled to the brim with insanely dangerous wartime AI that will fry almost any runner who interacts with them.
1 month ago
Anonymous
There is actually a cure, at least in the original RPG, and it's literally just therapy, because Cyberpychosis is the result of you feeling disconnected from your own life, and having things like a functioning family, actual friends, and a real community all make it significantly harder to go cyberpsycho.
Unfortunately, these things no longer really exist in the Cyberpunk world, and neither the corps nor the government give an actual single shit about peoples well-being, to the point where they literally just left tens/hundreds of thousands of US soldiers, support personnel, and families in the middle of south america because they could not be bothered to bring them back.
1 month ago
Anonymous
So the ddemographic that is least likely to go psycho is Nomads? Since they generally have a strong connection to the rest of their clan.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>So the ddemographic that is least likely to go psycho is Nomads?
Arguably, yes. Nomads contain a lot of vets and maybe the family aspect is part of the appeal.
The concept also explains how Maelstrom survive, they're a close-nit gang so the gang as a surrogate family there might be the only thing keeping them from diving off when they're easily the most alien-looking borged out freaks in NC.
>completely unsuited for mass production
Don't know about that, a hand-cannon that can put down a cyberpsycho has a lot of utility in Night City.
MaxTac should carry these as their standard issue side-arm. Fucking NCPD should, or maybe not, that old cop telling the young rookie to not fuck with psychos because that's what MaxTac is for does spring to mind.
There is two chambers, it rotates like a revolver. The lifter pushes a round into the bottom chamber. Headspacing must be a complete bitch on this thing
A gun that looks like it could exist, just unbullpup a Desert Eagle giving it a Mauser broomhandle style frame.
it couldnt work exactly like that, the cartridge appears to be sitting on the riser when firing instead of actually being inserted into the chamber
You guys are also forgetting Johnny has a fucking cyberware arm that he uses with it so it doesn’t fracture his fucking wrist + recoil control.
>You guys are also forgetting Johnny has a fucking cyberware arm
I'm not forgetting shit, we're talking about "guns that can actually become real" and cyberarms aren't a real thing...well, they are but not on the level required to be wielding fuck-off elephant-gun calibre hand cannons.
It does beg the question of why the fuck it should exist but in game at least, it's a super high calibre pistol.
Also combines tech penetration with ricochet shenanigans but I never use ricochet and barely use tech penetration so it's kind of academic. These are just game contrivances though and wouldn't translate into the real world.
It does manage to get an overpowered cartridge into a pistol form factor but you'd practically need a cyberarm to fire it one handed and the short barrel length on a rifle cartridge would probably cause all sorts of ballistic issues.
Not anymore after the buff, now it's back to be a beast.
Also lore accurate Johnny has like 4 of the Malorian handguns, the one in the game is the third, his last malorian was an even more powerful armor penetration rounds and quick swap magazines with 4 giant bullets.
Pretty much but he never used it because he went to arasaka tower with the third version and an SMG, he sacrificed himself to save Murphy, rogue and the others then Murphy soulkilled his ass to keep him "alive".
>you did execute smasher with the malorian, right?
Usually, yeah. Used the dildo on one playthrough, there's some other poetic options though, I might use Becca's shotgun next time.
It happened a few times in WW1 when British soldiers attempted to use elephant guns as anti-materiel rifles. The guns were designed to be fired while standing, and firing while prone could break a man's collarbone.
The design makes sense if your goal is to shove a fuckhuge cartridge into a semi-auto without the normal disadvantages of either a ginormous grip or a short barrel because you put the magazine in front of the grip.
>You can't fire it it'll break your arm!!!
This has never happened in recorded history with any gun of any size.
People have fired elephant gun pistols, 50BMG pistols, 2bore pistols, nothing's even come close to breaking a bone.
It's just something noguns writers say about guns, because they never actually make them so powerful they'd live up to the recoil.
It's literally a one-off designer handgun commissioned by a narcissistic rockstar/terrorist who had a cybernetic arm able to take the stupid amount of recoil without issue. It having recoil THAT bad just isn't something the designer would need to worry about in this specific case.
Yeah he was angry about real things but he was also a low-grade cyberpsycho. And he is narcissistic and he is a terrorist, if you're blowing up skyscrapers in the middle of a city then you're embracing that label.
>Didn't say Johnny didn't have a point. He just went at it in a pretty stupid way. And was a jerkass in general.
That is absolutely how you're "supposed" to read his character.
Mike Pondsmith has said words to that effect many times. Yes, he's fighting a legitimate cause but he's also a terrorist, self-defeating, self-destructive and hurts everyone around him.
Hes also a massive homosexual egotist, which is why he selectively edits morgan blackhand out of his memories so he seems more cool to V.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah, his last stand against Smasher is even self edited to make it look like a heroic last stand instead of what it actually was:Johnny coming across Adam, firing his SMG at him, doing zero damage, and Adam giving him an is this nigga serious look before blasting his lower half off with an auto shotgun. In the source material Adam doesn't give a single shit about Johnny, Morgan Blackhand is his real rival.
1 month ago
Anonymous
it was explicitly a heroic last stand in the book everyone pretends to have read, he sacrificed himself to allow rogue and spider murphy to escape and get alt out
He has one line where he states that he didnt just blow up Arasaka tower to fight his war or as a statement. But also because Alt send him a message about Mikoshi keeping her ai self enslaved. That was why he sent the elevator all the way down with a nuke. To break Mikoshi, while the internet was being destroyed by a netrunner. The event led to Alt breaking free and making it to the other side of the Blackwall.
It's also shown in the first memory of his you see near the start where he tells Rogue he's almost done, shows her the cyberdeck he brought, and she gets super pissed and tells him he has four minutes before she leaves without him.
Cyberpunk as a genre justify all sorts of weapons that would be unnecessary IRL. In a world where any street nagger could have NIJ Lvl3 skin, titanium bones and a brain implant giving him hummingbird reflexes that allow him to dodge bullets, 9mm literally isnt good enough for a CC.
>Cyberpunk as a genre justify all sorts of weapons that would be unnecessary IRL
My favourite is the Arasaka sniper rifle from one of the expansion books. It had a powerful cartridge that fired a round of three staggered flechettes with each part having different weighting so they arrived slightly separated in time meaning that cover could be penetrated ahead of the 2nd and 3rd rounds and their ballistics less effected by it.
I think there was another Cyberpunk 2020 rifle that works this way too but the three rounds had different penetration characteristics and were fit together like a sabot and separated in-flight.
>three staggered flechettes with each part having different weighting so they arrived slightly separated in time meaning that cover could be penetrated ahead of the 2nd and 3rd rounds and their ballistics less effected by it.
sounds like something the people from the ACR program would come up with if you locked them all in a single room with an unlimited supply of meth
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It's Desert Eagle mixed with Bond Arms Bullpup. This is entirely plausible, though kind of pointless.
>Desert Eagle
Its calibre isn't mentioned anywhere but the lore does say that it uses a unique cartridge, the mag has 10 rounds so I guess it's double stack unless it just ignores physics.
>The Malorian is cool and all, but it feels like there's a lot of unnecessary complexity.
Style over Substance is literally the design philosophy of the game world. It's not enough to do badass shit, you have to look cool as hell doing it.
Those pistol grenades saved my ass so many times. The game as a pretty cool arsenal in general, a neat mix of early-mid 1900s style guns and obligatory boomershooter classics.
Electrically/electronically actuated and electrically primed/ignited ammunition were discussed in length here: https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/58221133/
>tfw you go to the columbarium and find the edgerunner's memorials
David's especially is pretty sad. Also I guess that means Lucy didn't kill herself on the moon, unless she did the memorials first then went on the moon trip.
Arasaka has some installations on the moon, but Lucy was running to the independent moon colonies, who are among the few places around that the megacorps don't dare fuck with. Because they're the only people other than ESA to have full-blown orbital strike capability. (And Arasaka is in trouble because ESA policy is that they won't tolerate anyone else trying to get that capability, on pain of getting their space program bombed into smithereens.)
I would have to learn how to use the the CNC but I actually have a lot of gunsmithing experience. All the complicated design work is already done considering theres nothing special about its action or design. Its just a .45LC double action 6 o'clock barrel weighted target revolver. Probably a S&W action, its been a while since I looked into it but I think I remember it wasnt a Colt action.
Forgot to say top break but that is also already a well documented thing and considering it is THIQQQUE and 6 o'clock wouldn't really need any additional engineering to hold up long term.
Yes, could do it on a much cheaper machine though and no need for the ATF I'll make it cap and ball. If you choose to have it converted after the fact thats on you.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Alternatively
1 month ago
A Lady of Repute
Love chunky target revolvers.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I love that the barrel is like 10lbs of steel, but they skeletonized the hammer to save just that little bit of weight.
1 month ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/2ygPoL2.jpg
Alternatively
I love that the barrel is like 10lbs of steel, but they skeletonized the hammer to save just that little bit of weight.
Skeletonized hammer reduces lock time slightly, in theory.
1 month ago
A Lady of Repute
>WITCHITA
ew lol
Cant stand all the billboards stamped on guns.
the magazine on a desert eage is behind the trigger, hence it's a bullpup, dumbass
I cant tell if youre pretending to be retarded.
1 month ago
Anonymous
honestly that WITCHITA isn't too bad, it's a tasteful rollmark for the name of the pistol/brand/location or whatever
I hate it when it's like painted the fuck on and has half the user manual printed on the side
1 month ago
A Lady of Repute
Yeah that ones not so bad. the lawyer ones with all the warnings are bad enough ive passed on guns I wanted that were cheap. I REALLY hate that shit.
I’m a machinist with 6 years of CNC programming + manual mill/lathe work. Know the ins and out of GD&T, G/M code and metallurgy. I could do it, but it wouldn’t be as easy as others say, even with gun smithing knowledge as well.
The main issue is getting the auto ejector to work given the barrel placement. With normal top break revolvers like the Webley or the S&W No 3 and its progeny a substantial portion of the ejector mechanism is contained where the barrel is on a 6 o'clock style revolver like Vash's Weebley. There are ways around it, such taking the ejection mechanism from pic related and flipping it upside down, but then it would look noticeably different from the way the gun looks in the anime and manga.
The updates made it a decent action adventure with some RPG elements but it’s not the immersive sim people thought it was going to be. It’s worth playing vs other modern releases like snorefield. If you have a decent rig the raytracing is great. I’d look for a reduced cost version though (third party key seller), game + DLC? That’s maybe too much.
The normal game content and the DLC content is jarring, with all the side quests in the DLC being very detailed and less “go here and shoot 5 goons and collect X”, it’s disappointing going back to base game content and that they’re not making any more expansions since they’re making a sequel.
>it’s not the immersive sim people thought it was going to be
Maybe that's why i was so disappointed by the game, guess i expected more out of it. I'll check the game out again, judging by how everyone is saying the game improved a lot with the updates and DLC.
>judging by how everyone is saying the game improved a lot with the updates and DLC
It had a No Man Sky/Arkham Knight arc where it released buggy as hell and unoptimised but the devs stay on it and fixed it up over time.
CP2077 was already like two years late when it released and I'd preordered it so I was mad as hell about it but it did get much better.
Didn't help that a last gen card at release definitely could not run it at high settings and it needed an OS update too.
Win7 with a 1080 had so many fucking crashes it's unbelievable.
W10 with 3080 is a way, way smoother ride at nearly max settings though maybe not in 2.0.
I haven't played enough of 2.0 to be sure yet but in 1.63, they partially fixed some of the optimisation by grossly reducing the pedestrian and vehicle spawning and it made the streets feel deserted. I think maybe that's not as true in 2.0 but it feels like 2.0 is a bit more resource intensive as a result.
CP77 has contextual NPC spawning, if you are in a car, vehicle AI is prioritised, if you are on foot, pedestrian AI is prioritised.
I still remember this one time, I was going to cash out the Delamain quest and I had a kilometer or so to the objective and I just decided to get out of the car a walk there, fyi I had the Bladerunner Weather mod with vignette remover, the rain was pouring, clouds and smog obstructed the high-rise and it was wonderful, no other game gave me a similar feeling of "immersion" while performing such a basic task.
It's good looking and a decent murderhoboing simulator. Now it mostly works too. But it it's got none of the other stuff people were expecting before launch.
>But it it's got none of the other stuff people were expecting before launch
It's got most of it, there's only a few things really missing.
Vehicle combat is in, vehicle tuning is not.
The character creator hasn't changed since launch so it doesn't have the same level of life path stuff that we were promised in some teasers. Graphics are fantastic if you've got the rig to show them.
Katana + sandy
The way it's meant to be played.
>Katana + sandy
I loved my blade-ninja build, thermoptics, sandy, double-jump, katana, throwing knives. Could tear through a warehouse and dice everything inside in seconds and they'd mostly never see me coming and couldn't do shit if they did.
Its still mediocre, but its a lot more polished now. They reworked the skill trees and cyberware, its still the same game under the hood though. The DLC is quite good but it just emphasizes how shallow the base game was. It isnt an RPG and never will be, still just a hack and slash shooter masquerading as one, but playing with the new systems is kinda fun. They added a hack mode where you can cast hacks for free in exchange for some health, and killing with hacks heals you, so you can clear fights using stacks of endgame hacks without firing a shot; plus lassoing someone with the monowire allows you to hack them cheaper. Thats the fun part, and tbh for me its already wearing off.
It got good with like version 1.63. 2.0 with Phantom Liberty is fantastic.
>unlike a normal one (which have to be half-sedated and essentially puppeted by an onboard AI to prevent them going psycho)
that's only the dragoon, secondary.
The Dragoon is kinda the definition of a heavy combat full-conversion. Arasaka's experimental counterpart had the exact same issues.
according to a guy that had absolute no hand in writing it and just 'answers' questions on reddit for attention. it doesn't even make any fucking sense since it would be FIFTY years out of date, or modified so heavily that only the frame is the same.
>a guy
Try Mike Pondsmith.
>it doesn't even make any fucking sense since it would be FIFTY years out of date
Doesn't make any sense for the US to still be using Abrams tanks, they're FORTY years out of date! The Dragoon was so far ahead in the 2020's that it's more than possible for an updated version to still be a top-line model 50 years later.
Alright cyberpun/k/s you're a merc kitting yourself out for an upcoming job, you've got a choice to make:monowire, projectile launch system, mantis blades, or gorilla nigga arms. What is your choice and why?
Monowire, assuming that the Relic isn't necessary to jailbreak it, at higher rarities one strike with it can upload a quickhack to the target, and if you use Weapon Glitch as your chosen hack, they have to either A) engage you in melee without a weapon or B) run. A is a retarded idea because you have monowire, and B isn't likely to succeed.
Mantis blades, they're cool as fuck and Cyberpunk is all about style over substance after all. Plus the leaping attack and bullet deflection can help you close the gap with enemies.
>gorilla nigga arms
This, because monowire is gay as fuck, mantis blades are retarded and as for the projectile launch system I already have a gun why would I want slower bulkier gun?
I need to kill fast and bullets too slow, so sandevistan + gorilla arms.
I've heard the rogue AIs are actually really friendly and cool and the government and corpos are lying about them. Everyone should try to contact them because they're cool and want more friends.
I don't know how anyone can stomach this game. Even if the weapons were cool and original in a backdrop of cheap old weapons with cyberpunk style reworks, instead of rehashed generic scifi game slop, with wonderful combat mechanics that added a real sense of weight and movement to cyberpunk sorts of bio enhancements instead of GTA lite + generic shooter game dynamics, it still wouldn't be enough to let me ignore the absolute political propaganda of the premise and preachy "lore".
>it still wouldn't be enough to let me ignore the absolute political propaganda of the premise and preachy "lore".
Immaculately manicured corpo hands typed this post.
Yeah, the premise is shit. >Corporations are evil, right my fellow hip youths? Right? Rage Against the Machine, man. Yeah!
Even Gibson's simplistic BS had more nuance than the premise of this game.
Corpos CAN be evil and often times are, due to lack of individual resposibility. This is a problem as old as the plow.
The game takes it to cartoonish heights to make an interesting world.
This is due to what sci-fi does: ask a "what if" and go with it.
in this case:
"What if America collapsed and in it's wake only huge megacorps were able to keep working."
Bare in mind the game was first printed in the 80s, where everyone still believed Japan (like now China) will take over the US as the major economic and cultural power in the world. This Anxiety and Japanese cultural quirks (like Zaibatus and loss of individuality at work) were baked into it.
Also, complaining about it being "simplicistic" that decades of corporate power ruling unchecked has led to massive systemic abuse sure is one hell of a take. When has unchecked unilateral power being entrenched over a long time NOT?
Not to mention NC is really the worst place in the developed world when it comes to this in-setting. Even the NUSA with it's government-corporate siamese twin ruling apparatus isn't quite as bad, and other places have a rather more balanced power dynamic going, from the USSR's power sharing between SovOil, the state and organised crime, to Europes' massive and ever-shifting patchwork of corporations, national governments, political parties, lobby groups etc. NC is nigh-stagnant in how completely overbearing corporate control by comparison.
>bootliking
So not liking cartoonishly simplistic to the point of being evil coporate boogeymen is bootliking now? Go back to leftypol or whatever hellhole you came from.
Also, complaining about it being "simplicistic" that decades of corporate power ruling unchecked has led to massive systemic abuse sure is one hell of a take. When has unchecked unilateral power being entrenched over a long time NOT?
Not to mention NC is really the worst place in the developed world when it comes to this in-setting. Even the NUSA with it's government-corporate siamese twin ruling apparatus isn't quite as bad, and other places have a rather more balanced power dynamic going, from the USSR's power sharing between SovOil, the state and organised crime, to Europes' massive and ever-shifting patchwork of corporations, national governments, political parties, lobby groups etc. NC is nigh-stagnant in how completely overbearing corporate control by comparison.
You remember when corporations used to compete with each other to pay their workers the highest wages? I wonder what happened to cause that fall-off...
I bet both of you have called people consumers in a derogatory sense at some point. And I thought the game was shit... its fan base is even worse than the game itself.
I agree with you, the game's plot and setting are pretty fucking awful. Everyone's an asshole, the plot is miserable and forced, and there are no happy endings.
I finished phantom liberty a couple of days ago and the ending it introduced revealed how big of an asshole every one of the characters were. Literally all of them tell you to go fuck yourself after you spent 2 years in a coma, and the one that didn't saw you for a grand total of 5 minutes before you were kicked out of his shop and then robbed 10 metres in front of it.
All of those so called friends knew you for a grand total of a few weeks. Only Vic, Misty and Mama Welles knew you before that, and maybe Wakako, but she's just your fixer.
>You WILL assist the homicidal cheating tranny.
I usually do because killing assholes is what V does all day anyway and the target in that race is totally an asshole.
But if you want to tell Claire to fuck off, you can and if you do it just right she'll thank you for talking her round.
>Diversity and Unity
Damn.
Mike Pondsmith wrote that in what, 1998? 1990?
What propaganda? I dont think anything in the game is presented as admirable or desirable. None of the corps are good and working for them is sweatshop misery, gun ownership is considered crucial to daily life at all levels of society, the oversexualization of most characters is shown to result in shallow atomized relationships, all the quest givers are directly or indirectly trying to fuck you over. The only character I recall who is unambiguously helpful and kind without using you for their own agenda is an old white ripperdoc, all the nonwhites are corrupt backstabbers. Cyberpunk is similar to deus ex, insofar as in spite of any of its creators intentions; the vision presented ends up being thoroughly right wing.
>all the nonwhites are corrupt backstabbers
Wakako is more of an honest front-stabber. She never did V dirty and told her the score to her face. Most fixers are the same.
>The only character I recall who is unambiguously helpful and kind without using you for their own agenda is an old white ripperdoc
Mama Welles is stand-up. Misty of course but she's included with Vik. Panam has no social skills and an agenda but it's a pretty basic one of just wanting to fuck up the guy that ripped her off, complaining about that vengeance streak is retarded. Everything else about her is just lack of social skills. Judy has her agenda but it's pretty up front, she makes it pretty clear to you on day one that she's a Mox first and there's baggage that goes with that.
River Ward is pretty stand-up, even if I hate that quest line. I usually leave him hanging because his gun's not that great and I can skip the obvious and awkward conversation that leads up to him giving it to you.
Kerry is a hot mess but doesn't really have an agenda per se, you're the one with an agenda in dealing with Kerry, even if it's just to straighten his shit out for Johnny.
Rogue is another story but her agenda is redemptive so it might get a pass.
You also have a few other fixers who actively try to make city a better place, like the former journalists who is trying to find a cure to CPsychosis, or El-Capitan who has you steal an Arasaka truck full of medicin, so he can set up a clinic for the slums of Night City, since they dont have clean drinking water.
That the middle men for organised criminal activity and street mercenaries are counting some of the most decent people of the city among them really says something about NC.
Just to be sure, you're not getting gaslight. It's genuinely not propaganda, you're just hypersensitive to it as a product of 2020s internet where everyone is trying to jam shit down your gullet.
But yeah, the plot is contrived and the guns are kinda lame.
What propaganda? I dont think anything in the game is presented as admirable or desirable. None of the corps are good and working for them is sweatshop misery, gun ownership is considered crucial to daily life at all levels of society, the oversexualization of most characters is shown to result in shallow atomized relationships, all the quest givers are directly or indirectly trying to fuck you over. The only character I recall who is unambiguously helpful and kind without using you for their own agenda is an old white ripperdoc, all the nonwhites are corrupt backstabbers. Cyberpunk is similar to deus ex, insofar as in spite of any of its creators intentions; the vision presented ends up being thoroughly right wing.
How many times can you read through or listen to the multiple long diatribes about the evils of private insurance causing all the woes in the world before you realize it's propaganda bullshit? Many times, apparently.
Private insurance? Can you provide an example? Surely youre not basing all this on trauma team, which is one of the few aspects of the worlds system that the game depicts as actually working and providing a valuable service that the public sector has failed to. Taxpayer funded ambulances are stated several times to be a front for organ harvesting operations, when they arrive at all. Trauma team is an argument in favor of private health insurance.
No, as I said, long diatribe. It happens multiple times throughout the game. Computer terminals, dialogue, whatever. I played for maybe 10 hours before I completely game up on the piece of shit. I seriously have no idea how people don't pick up on it if I saw it several times in about 10 hours, and it makes me think the deniers are shills.
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People have no problem with the game because they understand that the setting demands excessive and comical corporate overreach. Those "diatribes" are there to add flavor and paint the picture of life's like under corporatocratic laissez faire blown way past the hyperbole. It takes one perennially mad and terminally online homosexual to intepret the game as some preachy propaganda novel.
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It's like complaining that Doom is unsympathetic to demons and feels like pro-human propaganda.
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Johnny literally tells you that this world is a system gone sick and then escalated beyond all checks and balances.
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Do you not agree that the world's fucked up and retarded in Cyberpunk universe? It's a world where a toddler can be packing combat cybernetics and a revolver, yet you choose to get mad over the setting because it makes hyperbolic caricatures out of corporations. I guess you missed the part where the obviously left-wing political candidate in the game hides his donations in tax haven, or the myriad parts where 2A is seen as an unequivocally good thing.
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No, I was agreeing with you.
People that get mad at degeneracy in this game and write it off based on that have to actively ignore what people from this world say to you, meaning, they didn't play the game.
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>or the myriad parts where 2A is seen as an unequivocally good thing
That's total bullshit anon, don't you hear the announcers saying: >Citizens are reminded that the use of firearms to advance in traffic is prohibited by the law
They're clearly a totalitarian gun control state.
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This. The 2A has been turned into a corporate tool in CP2077. No shit is a place where the two biggest firearms manufacturers and sellers in the world are also the two most politically powerful entities going to be very, very fucking pro-2nd Amendment. While also militarising the police like crazy, keeping their own paramilitary security forces on hand and keeping the best and heaviest firepower for themselves, of course.
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>keeping their own paramilitary security forces on hand
There's not a heavy Militech presence in NC, it's Arasaka turf and maybe their largest base outside Japan. I think Night Corp is technically the largest or most powerful corp in NC but they wouldn't have the force of arms that Arasaka does.
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They're out in the Badlands and running a lot of undercover stuff in the city, too. It's Arasaka turf, but Militech and the NUSA aren't exactly respecting that.
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To be fair NUSA might not have realised that they dont own Night City too. Only 53% of NUSA Citizens are even literate.
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>To be fair NUSA might not have realised that they dont own Night City too
The government certainly knows. There's a treaty that made NC a free city.
>so overpriced it's essentially restricted to high level executives for any treatment that doesn't subsequently bankrupt you
That's Platinum coverage, which is the one where they'll fight through gonks to save you.
Most people don't have that level of coverage but most people with a job can afford *some* level of coverage.
>Surely youre not basing all this on trauma team, which is one of the few aspects of the worlds system that the game depicts as actually working and providing a valuable service that the public sector has failed to
NTA but Edgerunners starts with a "fuck trauma team and private health insurance" story, though it's shown, not told.
Anon, everything in Cyperpunk is fucked. It's not just the private insurance, it's the public health initiatives too. And the corpos. And your neighbors. And the public officials.
Night City sucks. Every part of it is broken and corrupt. Almost every person is broken and corrupt on some level. That's like half the point of the setting.
Its why Jackie was destine to die. He represented the promise of Night City. And you have to crash back down to reality, and see how hollow everything is.
Jackie was an archetype of a Night City resident, he was there to show you why people tolerate this shit, and yes, what almost everyone gets for playing the game.
>political propaganda of the premise and preachy "lore".
Bruh we already got Japanese toilets that fuck you in the ass with a pressure washer. Soon there'll be cybernetic limb transplants available at special clinics and they're gonna start using swarms of mini drones to create 3d ads in the sky not to mention fucking AI "girlfriends" becoming a thing.
We live in Blade runner
>Will my cybernetic limb also fuck me in the ass with a pressure washer?
It's called an enema and I'm sure there's an electro-mechanical version adapted from fucking machines.
I don't know how anyone can stomach this game. Even if the weapons were cool and original in a backdrop of cheap old weapons with cyberpunk style reworks, instead of rehashed generic scifi game slop, with wonderful combat mechanics that added a real sense of weight and movement to cyberpunk sorts of bio enhancements instead of GTA lite + generic shooter game dynamics, it still wouldn't be enough to let me ignore the absolute political propaganda of the premise and preachy "lore".
The only think unrealistic about most cyberpunk Dystopias is how well they actually run and manage themselves, instead of constantly collapsing.
All the techno degeneracy and bullshit, that's absolutely realistic.
I always got the feeling that its because were seeing the last decade before the complete collapse, like civilization has reached past of no return, but were only in the beginning of the tailspin.
I mean, Night City is halfway to being a warzone on most days, and that's besides freakin' Pacifica. And let's not forget it got nuked once. Stability is very much a relative term.
Yorinobu is trying to cause a new corpo war. Because his entire goal has always been to try and burn Arasaka down. After he watched Johnny nuking them not being enough, he figured that tearing it down from the inside was the only real chance he had to actually kill it.
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I might not like Yorinobu, but he was the closest thing to a hero in CP77
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I almost regret stealing his pistol, clothes, and iguana. Almost.
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You got him that Iguana in the first place, its only fair you get to steal it back
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Not the same iguana, if you examine it more than once Jackie says the frills are different.
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You don't even steal that iguana from him anyway, you steal its egg don't you?
I always got the feeling that its because were seeing the last decade before the complete collapse, like civilization has reached past of no return, but were only in the beginning of the tailspin.
This made sense in CP2020, but the fact that (besides some very dumb superficial stuff that ironically makes it more like modern day real earth), 2077 is almost identical to 2020 is what I'm getting at.
In real life we are absolutely headed for a Cyberpunk-cities VS 99% of the country being Nomad gearheads century. So it's more accurate than people think, the cities are just going to have a lot less power than in Cyberpunk.
2077's setting is kind of a half-soft reboot reworking of the setting but technically positioned as a sequel. they did the same thing with the witcher at first before trying to also work in book stuff in later games
Aren't laser-ionized channels supposed to be a thing for arcing electricity like that?
I doubt it would make anybody explode but I wouldn't want to be hit by it.
It wouldn't be at all reliable either, a bit of rain, some moist air or an inconvenient street sign would ground the discharge in spite of the conductive path to the target.
this animation isn't made by the devs, is it?
it's made by some dude trying to rationalize how this fucked up piece of shit would realistically function, isn't it?
I really hate all these sci-fi games with completely nonsensical weapon designs but I hate the idiots that find them cool even more
if Bethesda had put some rails and a black synthetic stock on the FO4 assault rifle, nobody would be complaining about how shitty of a design it is because that's seemingly all it takes to satisfy these people
But why can't sci-fi guns be realistic enough to actually function?
This gun was designed by someone who had no idea what they were doing and the animation was made by someone else trying to justify it. It's bad.
Saying it's fictional doesn't make it not bad.
The animation and modeling people have objectively more important things to do than figure out your specific brand of autism anon. While they're at it you should ask them why they don't make accurately rendered calipers, brake pads, and come up with a VTOL jet turbine apparatus for the Trauma Team ambulance.
It just has to look convincing at a glance. Gun slide go back, old bullet go out, spinny thing put bullet in. Done.
What do people think of the Arasaka guns in Cyberpunk? It felt weird to me reading the descriptions and going 'oh right, these are Japanese guns' when in our timeline Japan hasn't really produced any guns since WW2.
I also remember reading in one of the descriptions, I think it was the called the Copperback, looks like an AR-15 but it's described as more common than the AK-47 in that universe. Which I find suspect since it doesn't seem to be as simple or hit as hard as an AK.
Boring and lacking a consistent identity. Militech guns are angular and industrial, budget arms guns are fat and bulbous, kang tao smart guns are intricate and frontheavy (except the pistol, which is totally unique), constitutional arms are basically modern guns with compensators, while arasaka is just a collection of random shit. I guess the conceit is that they resemble shit from old cyberpunk anime like GITS and appleseed, but its a weak connection.
the regular designs are pretty forgettable but the off-model masamune dorio had in the anime looked cool, stockless and more the size of a machine pistol.
Its insane how much content SR2 had. A lot of it would only be found by people who did every activity and explored every corner, (like how many people found the mall without a guide?), but they put it there anyway. If you were hot shit and speedran all the diversions, you could have the best weapons in the game with infinite ammo before completing the second mission. Thats a game with respect for its players, in stark contrast with the later saints rows.
Abomination? If it wasn't a "rule of cool" bullpup that couldn't possibly fire it'd be a pretty fancy AK variant. Put the mag where it belongs at the very least and I'd be proud to have something like that in my gun pile. Looks like you could easily sell it as a huntin gun AK.
it couldnt work exactly like that, the cartridge appears to be sitting on the riser when firing instead of actually being inserted into the chamber
There is two chambers, it rotates like a revolver. The lifter pushes a round into the bottom chamber. Headspacing must be a complete bitch on this thing
A gun that looks like it could exist, just unbullpup a Desert Eagle giving it a Mauser broomhandle style frame.
>just unbullpup a Desert Eagle giving it a Mauser broomhandle style frame
Anon do you know what the word "bullpup" means?
the magazine on a desert eage is behind the trigger, hence it's a bullpup, dumbass
So that's a "no"?
Bullpup is defined as the action being behind the trigger, not the magazine.
In handguns, the hammer and firing pin sit above the trigger, just like in any conventional rifle.
Conventional handguns are not bullpups.
Iirc then in-universe, that gun is completely custom made for the express purpose of killing a specific heavely armored target. So it wasnt meant to be a reliable sidearm that is widely used
>So it wasnt meant to be a reliable sidearm that is widely used
Once I picked it up it was pretty fucking widely used across Night City.
Kek.
The number 1 cause of gang related deaths in Night City
It was commissioned by Johnny because he wanted a semi-auto that could put down a heavily-chromed fan going cyberpsycho at him.
It is reliable. It's also stupid expensive and completely unsuited for mass production.
>completely unsuited for mass production
Don't know about that, a hand-cannon that can put down a cyberpsycho has a lot of utility in Night City.
MaxTac should carry these as their standard issue side-arm. Fucking NCPD should, or maybe not, that old cop telling the young rookie to not fuck with psychos because that's what MaxTac is for does spring to mind.
The NCPD has had their budget cut and become more and more neutered, since the death of the cities founder. It would make sense for MaxTac to be issued with type of gun, or something of equeal force.
why do they even bother with guns? why not just go straight for ATGMs.
or hell, a fucking FPV-PG7 would fuck somebody up regardless of how many mods they wear
>why do they even bother with guns? why not just go straight for ATGMs.
There's a MaxTac squad that drops on some pretty regular gangbangers during the opening cinematic drive from the scavhaunt to your watson megabuilding.
The lead shooter on that team doesn't bother with firearms, he's packing the arm-mounted micro-missile launcher and just blows the whole car up, which is a bit unfortunate for the peeps who were being car-jacked in it but that's Night City for you.
MaxTac is staffed by sanctioned Cyberpsychos. They dont give a fuck about civilian casualties, because they dont have to care.
>MaxTac is staffed by sanctioned Cyberpsychos. They dont give a fuck about civilian casualties, because they dont have to care.
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By reconditioned cyberpsychos I think. Mostly, the captain isn't psycho (yet), you can read his memoirs where he was worried about going psycho so he gives his wife a high-powered hand cannon and tells her to shoot him in the head in his sleep if he starts twitching or saying weird shit.
I think it's a mix of reconditioned psychos and old badges.
Theres supposedly no cure for CPsychosis, but we dont really know what MaxTac does with perps they capture. So i wouldnt put it past them, to actively recruit from victims.
>but we dont really know what MaxTac does with perps they capture
There's some lore items in CP2077 that give hints. The conversation with the mtac in the fashion store (who is the psycho from the teaser vid) and some logs in the River Ward quest I think.
Some sort of brain-wiping or VR conditioning or something is done. I think it pretty much fucks the original personality but it's a possible judicial sentence or something.
Makes sense. BTW could the MaxTac convoy you ambush in the DlC neat Adam Smasher? If they get the chance to prepare and ambush him.
>BTW could the MaxTac convoy you ambush in the DlC neat Adam Smasher?
I haven't played the DLC yet. I just started a new play-through but haven't had time to really get into it and I'm not up to whatever you need to do to be invited into the DLC.
I think any full MaxTac squad could take Adam Smasher with prep though, they don't usually have much problem taking down 'borgs even if they might lose one or two expendable former-psychos themselves on a bad day. Smasher is kind of a lucid cyberpsycho, he's pretty fucked up even when he's not in a full body borg suit but his main super-power is that although he's indifferent or enthusiastic about collateral damage, he's not as reckless as most cyberpsychos and retains survival instinct and cunning.
His borg suits are state of the art but they're still just a better-than-average combat chassis, he'll eventually drop to the same kinds of high-calibre/AT stuff you use on other total conversion suits.
Im not going to spoil anything. But the MaxTac convoy you fight, has a cybersquad(4 specialist MaxTac units), several high tier human agents(Probably the equivalent to SWAT), and a squad or two of advanced combat bots. So besides the main squad, MaxTac still have plenty of resources to throw at Adam
Total conversions are exceedingly rare, though, especially heavy combat ones. And with Smasher you then get the problem that unlike a normal one (which have to be half-sedated and essentially puppeted by an onboard AI to prevent them going psycho) he's both fully lucid and an extremely experienced combatant.
The bolt is rotated by an electric motor in the grip.
Thats retarded but makes sense in the context. Guess it would be easier than regulating and timing two different action types together.
>unlike a normal one (which have to be half-sedated and essentially puppeted by an onboard AI to prevent them going psycho)
that's only the dragoon, secondary.
Credit where it’s due, this still applies since Adam’s 2077 body is a modified EIC Dragoon.
according to a guy that had absolute no hand in writing it and just 'answers' questions on reddit for attention. it doesn't even make any fucking sense since it would be FIFTY years out of date, or modified so heavily that only the frame is the same.
Mike Pondsmith literally said it was heavily modified. Anyway, it’s not like old/ancient shit doesn’t get used IRL either. My main complaint is that at no point did he use a new mark of Dai-Oni, which would have been sick.
>it doesn't even make any fucking sense since it would be FIFTY years out of date
didn't the datakrash literally destroy the net and all data records and technical data packages of all current tech in 2023 setting back tech to whatever somehow not destroyed or what they could reverse engineer?
Bartmoss really fucked everyone over, didn't he?
tidbits I read or was told by anons told me he had it on a deadman's switch and Arasaka killed him with a spacelaser setting it off
Yes that’s true.
>T. 2020 fa/tg/uy
Also pondsmith is a hack, ignore his gay reddit attentionwhoring
Well, the other part is that the black net is filled to the brim with insanely dangerous wartime AI that will fry almost any runner who interacts with them.
There is actually a cure, at least in the original RPG, and it's literally just therapy, because Cyberpychosis is the result of you feeling disconnected from your own life, and having things like a functioning family, actual friends, and a real community all make it significantly harder to go cyberpsycho.
Unfortunately, these things no longer really exist in the Cyberpunk world, and neither the corps nor the government give an actual single shit about peoples well-being, to the point where they literally just left tens/hundreds of thousands of US soldiers, support personnel, and families in the middle of south america because they could not be bothered to bring them back.
So the ddemographic that is least likely to go psycho is Nomads? Since they generally have a strong connection to the rest of their clan.
>So the ddemographic that is least likely to go psycho is Nomads?
Arguably, yes. Nomads contain a lot of vets and maybe the family aspect is part of the appeal.
The concept also explains how Maelstrom survive, they're a close-nit gang so the gang as a surrogate family there might be the only thing keeping them from diving off when they're easily the most alien-looking borged out freaks in NC.
2.0 made the cop hold a burya.
You guys are also forgetting Johnny has a fucking cyberware arm that he uses with it so it doesn’t fracture his fucking wrist + recoil control.
Are the things on his elbow spikes or just something decorative?
Most likely both, I mean it fits the rocker punk aesthetic and can be used to fucking stab people.
>You guys are also forgetting Johnny has a fucking cyberware arm
I'm not forgetting shit, we're talking about "guns that can actually become real" and cyberarms aren't a real thing...well, they are but not on the level required to be wielding fuck-off elephant-gun calibre hand cannons.
Left arm is mechanical
Shoots with his right
FUCK!!! You’re right! For some reason I remembered his right hand being the cyber arm but it’s not. Holy shit, from memory it also made more sense.
>Left arm is mechanical
>Shoots with his right
He doesn't, he shoots with his left for that exact reason.
In the false memories, V shoots right handed, Johnny shoots left.
>hand held .577 gun
>with mini flamethrower attached
I wonder why they haven't added scopes and grenade launchers.
Or atleast a tripod
Also, no. Desert Eagle isn't a bullpup. The action isn't behind the trigger.
Nigga
Think shotgun action but instead of tube you have box and instead of pump you have recoil/gas operated slide.
It does beg the question of why the fuck it should exist but in game at least, it's a super high calibre pistol.
Also combines tech penetration with ricochet shenanigans but I never use ricochet and barely use tech penetration so it's kind of academic. These are just game contrivances though and wouldn't translate into the real world.
It does manage to get an overpowered cartridge into a pistol form factor but you'd practically need a cyberarm to fire it one handed and the short barrel length on a rifle cartridge would probably cause all sorts of ballistic issues.
I like to think it fires something like a shorter .45-70.
i think it was 14mm in tt
Johnny commissioned it as the most powerful handgun, circa 2020
It’s outclassed by the Russian railgun revolver in 2077
Not anymore after the buff, now it's back to be a beast.
Also lore accurate Johnny has like 4 of the Malorian handguns, the one in the game is the third, his last malorian was an even more powerful armor penetration rounds and quick swap magazines with 4 giant bullets.
>his last malorian was an even more powerful armor penetration rounds and quick swap magazines with 4 giant bullets
An Adam Smasher Smasher?
Pretty much but he never used it because he went to arasaka tower with the third version and an SMG, he sacrificed himself to save Murphy, rogue and the others then Murphy soulkilled his ass to keep him "alive".
you did execute smasher with the malorian, right?
>you did execute smasher with the malorian, right?
Usually, yeah. Used the dildo on one playthrough, there's some other poetic options though, I might use Becca's shotgun next time.
>Not anymore after the buff, now it's back to be a beast.
Pride is still the strongest by such a large margin it's hard to use any other pistol.
>You can't fire it it'll break your arm!!!
This has never happened in recorded history with any gun of any size.
People have fired elephant gun pistols, 50BMG pistols, 2bore pistols, nothing's even come close to breaking a bone.
It's just something noguns writers say about guns, because they never actually make them so powerful they'd live up to the recoil.
A guy broke his leg for having the wise idea of propping himself against a tree to control the recoil of an anti-tank rifle.
It happened a few times in WW1 when British soldiers attempted to use elephant guns as anti-materiel rifles. The guns were designed to be fired while standing, and firing while prone could break a man's collarbone.
All claims I've heard before, never once put a name to a case.
No medical report, just "I totally know a guy it happened to me gran"
The design makes sense if your goal is to shove a fuckhuge cartridge into a semi-auto without the normal disadvantages of either a ginormous grip or a short barrel because you put the magazine in front of the grip.
It's literally a one-off designer handgun commissioned by a narcissistic rockstar/terrorist who had a cybernetic arm able to take the stupid amount of recoil without issue. It having recoil THAT bad just isn't something the designer would need to worry about in this specific case.
>a narcissistic rockstar/terrorist
Veteran too, everyone forgets that he fought in south america for the US army when it still existed.
Basically McVeigh with a guitar and 20 points in CHA
>a narcissistic rockstar/terroris
Yeah he was angry about real things but he was also a low-grade cyberpsycho. And he is narcissistic and he is a terrorist, if you're blowing up skyscrapers in the middle of a city then you're embracing that label.
Didn't say Johnny didn't have a point. He just went at it in a pretty stupid way. And was a jerkass in general.
>Didn't say Johnny didn't have a point. He just went at it in a pretty stupid way. And was a jerkass in general.
That is absolutely how you're "supposed" to read his character.
Mike Pondsmith has said words to that effect many times. Yes, he's fighting a legitimate cause but he's also a terrorist, self-defeating, self-destructive and hurts everyone around him.
Hes also a massive homosexual egotist, which is why he selectively edits morgan blackhand out of his memories so he seems more cool to V.
Yeah, his last stand against Smasher is even self edited to make it look like a heroic last stand instead of what it actually was:Johnny coming across Adam, firing his SMG at him, doing zero damage, and Adam giving him an is this nigga serious look before blasting his lower half off with an auto shotgun. In the source material Adam doesn't give a single shit about Johnny, Morgan Blackhand is his real rival.
it was explicitly a heroic last stand in the book everyone pretends to have read, he sacrificed himself to allow rogue and spider murphy to escape and get alt out
He has one line where he states that he didnt just blow up Arasaka tower to fight his war or as a statement. But also because Alt send him a message about Mikoshi keeping her ai self enslaved. That was why he sent the elevator all the way down with a nuke. To break Mikoshi, while the internet was being destroyed by a netrunner. The event led to Alt breaking free and making it to the other side of the Blackwall.
It's also shown in the first memory of his you see near the start where he tells Rogue he's almost done, shows her the cyberdeck he brought, and she gets super pissed and tells him he has four minutes before she leaves without him.
Cyberpunk as a genre justify all sorts of weapons that would be unnecessary IRL. In a world where any street nagger could have NIJ Lvl3 skin, titanium bones and a brain implant giving him hummingbird reflexes that allow him to dodge bullets, 9mm literally isnt good enough for a CC.
>Cyberpunk as a genre justify all sorts of weapons that would be unnecessary IRL
My favourite is the Arasaka sniper rifle from one of the expansion books. It had a powerful cartridge that fired a round of three staggered flechettes with each part having different weighting so they arrived slightly separated in time meaning that cover could be penetrated ahead of the 2nd and 3rd rounds and their ballistics less effected by it.
https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Arasaka_WXXS_Multi-Role_Sniper_System
I think there was another Cyberpunk 2020 rifle that works this way too but the three rounds had different penetration characteristics and were fit together like a sabot and separated in-flight.
>three staggered flechettes with each part having different weighting so they arrived slightly separated in time meaning that cover could be penetrated ahead of the 2nd and 3rd rounds and their ballistics less effected by it.
sounds like something the people from the ACR program would come up with if you locked them all in a single room with an unlimited supply of meth
This is basically a Desert Eagle but with the magazine inserted in front of the trigger not in the grip.
It's Desert Eagle mixed with Bond Arms Bullpup. This is entirely plausible, though kind of pointless.
>Desert Eagle
Its calibre isn't mentioned anywhere but the lore does say that it uses a unique cartridge, the mag has 10 rounds so I guess it's double stack unless it just ignores physics.
I just meant in terms of the operating system, the back portion is entirely Desert Eagle inspired.
The Malorian is cool and all, but it feels like there's a lot of unnecessary complexity.
>The Malorian is cool and all, but it feels like there's a lot of unnecessary complexity.
Style over Substance is literally the design philosophy of the game world. It's not enough to do badass shit, you have to look cool as hell doing it.
Fashion Wars is the endgame of everything.
What game is this?
It's in the filename, buttwagon
isn't it like Bergmann 1896
Those pistol grenades saved my ass so many times. The game as a pretty cool arsenal in general, a neat mix of early-mid 1900s style guns and obligatory boomershooter classics.
What game is it from?
The Citadel, a one-man Japanese indie game.
halo 3: ODST
Electrically/electronically actuated and electrically primed/ignited ammunition were discussed in length here: https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/58221133/
Shut the fuck up
Cyberpunk was a shitty game and still is
Go back to PrepHole shazamtranny
It's unironically one of the better games I've played. Really nailed the corperation dystopia vibe
No it's one of the best Cyberpunk games of all time with Deus Ex 1, Cruelty Squad and G Police.
It has 91% recommendations on Steam, kys.
Just because the game is shit doesn't mean its assets are bad.
>tfw you go to the columbarium and find the edgerunner's memorials
David's especially is pretty sad. Also I guess that means Lucy didn't kill herself on the moon, unless she did the memorials first then went on the moon trip.
the corpo path starts with you as arasaka counter intel trying to damage control someone leaking that arasaka built a mass driver on the moon.
It's kind of funny that Arasaka is so evil because Saburo is still butthurt that Japan lost WW2.
Arasaka has some installations on the moon, but Lucy was running to the independent moon colonies, who are among the few places around that the megacorps don't dare fuck with. Because they're the only people other than ESA to have full-blown orbital strike capability. (And Arasaka is in trouble because ESA policy is that they won't tolerate anyone else trying to get that capability, on pain of getting their space program bombed into smithereens.)
WHY WON'T SOMEONE JUST FUCKIN MAKE IT?
Oh yeah i would love to make this gun to make 1 retard happy and have other 40 retards calling me a retard for making this gun
Buy me the materials, a CNC mill and lathe and I'll make you one.
You don't know what a CNC mill or a lathe is and couldn't make anything, could you?
I would have to learn how to use the the CNC but I actually have a lot of gunsmithing experience. All the complicated design work is already done considering theres nothing special about its action or design. Its just a .45LC double action 6 o'clock barrel weighted target revolver. Probably a S&W action, its been a while since I looked into it but I think I remember it wasnt a Colt action.
Forgot to say top break but that is also already a well documented thing and considering it is THIQQQUE and 6 o'clock wouldn't really need any additional engineering to hold up long term.
>I would have to learn how to use the the CNC
So you want me to buy you $100,000 of machinery to learn how to use them to make me a meme revolver?
I'm calling the ATF.
Yes, could do it on a much cheaper machine though and no need for the ATF I'll make it cap and ball. If you choose to have it converted after the fact thats on you.
Alternatively
Love chunky target revolvers.
I love that the barrel is like 10lbs of steel, but they skeletonized the hammer to save just that little bit of weight.
Skeletonized hammer reduces lock time slightly, in theory.
>WITCHITA
ew lol
Cant stand all the billboards stamped on guns.
I cant tell if youre pretending to be retarded.
honestly that WITCHITA isn't too bad, it's a tasteful rollmark for the name of the pistol/brand/location or whatever
I hate it when it's like painted the fuck on and has half the user manual printed on the side
Yeah that ones not so bad. the lawyer ones with all the warnings are bad enough ive passed on guns I wanted that were cheap. I REALLY hate that shit.
I’m a machinist with 6 years of CNC programming + manual mill/lathe work. Know the ins and out of GD&T, G/M code and metallurgy. I could do it, but it wouldn’t be as easy as others say, even with gun smithing knowledge as well.
how difficult could it be
The main issue is getting the auto ejector to work given the barrel placement. With normal top break revolvers like the Webley or the S&W No 3 and its progeny a substantial portion of the ejector mechanism is contained where the barrel is on a 6 o'clock style revolver like Vash's Weebley. There are ways around it, such taking the ejection mechanism from pic related and flipping it upside down, but then it would look noticeably different from the way the gun looks in the anime and manga.
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What would y'all make of the workings of this assault rifle looking thing?
The only way I can make sense of the Malorian is that it is like gas delayed blow forward and piston driven rotating bolt.
MP-203
Select fire shotgun with detachable revolving tube magazines.
Do people actually like this game now after the updates? I played it at launch and thought it was mediocre slop, haven't touched it since.
I mean, it still isn't what was originally advertised, I guess?
They fixed most of the bugs, but didn't do a lot to the actual content.
I played the launch version for months it started off good, its a great game now.
The updates made it a decent action adventure with some RPG elements but it’s not the immersive sim people thought it was going to be. It’s worth playing vs other modern releases like snorefield. If you have a decent rig the raytracing is great. I’d look for a reduced cost version though (third party key seller), game + DLC? That’s maybe too much.
The normal game content and the DLC content is jarring, with all the side quests in the DLC being very detailed and less “go here and shoot 5 goons and collect X”, it’s disappointing going back to base game content and that they’re not making any more expansions since they’re making a sequel.
or just pirate it since it's a gog game
>it’s not the immersive sim people thought it was going to be
Maybe that's why i was so disappointed by the game, guess i expected more out of it. I'll check the game out again, judging by how everyone is saying the game improved a lot with the updates and DLC.
2.0 entirely redesigned character building and cyberware. It's pretty insane just how much it changed things.
>judging by how everyone is saying the game improved a lot with the updates and DLC
It had a No Man Sky/Arkham Knight arc where it released buggy as hell and unoptimised but the devs stay on it and fixed it up over time.
CP2077 was already like two years late when it released and I'd preordered it so I was mad as hell about it but it did get much better.
Didn't help that a last gen card at release definitely could not run it at high settings and it needed an OS update too.
Win7 with a 1080 had so many fucking crashes it's unbelievable.
W10 with 3080 is a way, way smoother ride at nearly max settings though maybe not in 2.0.
I haven't played enough of 2.0 to be sure yet but in 1.63, they partially fixed some of the optimisation by grossly reducing the pedestrian and vehicle spawning and it made the streets feel deserted. I think maybe that's not as true in 2.0 but it feels like 2.0 is a bit more resource intensive as a result.
CP77 has contextual NPC spawning, if you are in a car, vehicle AI is prioritised, if you are on foot, pedestrian AI is prioritised.
I still remember this one time, I was going to cash out the Delamain quest and I had a kilometer or so to the objective and I just decided to get out of the car a walk there, fyi I had the Bladerunner Weather mod with vignette remover, the rain was pouring, clouds and smog obstructed the high-rise and it was wonderful, no other game gave me a similar feeling of "immersion" while performing such a basic task.
The 2.0 update makes it a legitimately good game. Worth a playthrough if you slept on it before, imo.
Played pretty flawlessly for me at launch loved the story. 2.0 re does the entire character building portion, the police and loads of other things.
It's good looking and a decent murderhoboing simulator. Now it mostly works too. But it it's got none of the other stuff people were expecting before launch.
>But it it's got none of the other stuff people were expecting before launch
It's got most of it, there's only a few things really missing.
Vehicle combat is in, vehicle tuning is not.
The character creator hasn't changed since launch so it doesn't have the same level of life path stuff that we were promised in some teasers. Graphics are fantastic if you've got the rig to show them.
>Katana + sandy
I loved my blade-ninja build, thermoptics, sandy, double-jump, katana, throwing knives. Could tear through a warehouse and dice everything inside in seconds and they'd mostly never see me coming and couldn't do shit if they did.
Its still mediocre, but its a lot more polished now. They reworked the skill trees and cyberware, its still the same game under the hood though. The DLC is quite good but it just emphasizes how shallow the base game was. It isnt an RPG and never will be, still just a hack and slash shooter masquerading as one, but playing with the new systems is kinda fun. They added a hack mode where you can cast hacks for free in exchange for some health, and killing with hacks heals you, so you can clear fights using stacks of endgame hacks without firing a shot; plus lassoing someone with the monowire allows you to hack them cheaper. Thats the fun part, and tbh for me its already wearing off.
It got good with like version 1.63. 2.0 with Phantom Liberty is fantastic.
The Dragoon is kinda the definition of a heavy combat full-conversion. Arasaka's experimental counterpart had the exact same issues.
>a guy
Try Mike Pondsmith.
>it doesn't even make any fucking sense since it would be FIFTY years out of date
Doesn't make any sense for the US to still be using Abrams tanks, they're FORTY years out of date! The Dragoon was so far ahead in the 2020's that it's more than possible for an updated version to still be a top-line model 50 years later.
Desire intensifies.
kinda hate to say it, but I'd prefer the last game's version.
or the pistol. Imagine it: a stamped sheetmetal fullauto PoS with 20 rounds in the drum and a pseudo toggle lock.
Alright cyberpun/k/s you're a merc kitting yourself out for an upcoming job, you've got a choice to make:monowire, projectile launch system, mantis blades, or gorilla nigga arms. What is your choice and why?
Here's my build
>5th ed
Miss me with that shit
But I like 5e.
Monowire, assuming that the Relic isn't necessary to jailbreak it, at higher rarities one strike with it can upload a quickhack to the target, and if you use Weapon Glitch as your chosen hack, they have to either A) engage you in melee without a weapon or B) run. A is a retarded idea because you have monowire, and B isn't likely to succeed.
Gorilla arms, it’s the only one that gives you a bonus to stat checks
Mantis blades, they're cool as fuck and Cyberpunk is all about style over substance after all. Plus the leaping attack and bullet deflection can help you close the gap with enemies.
>gorilla nigga arms
This, because monowire is gay as fuck, mantis blades are retarded and as for the projectile launch system I already have a gun why would I want slower bulkier gun?
I need to kill fast and bullets too slow, so sandevistan + gorilla arms.
Katana + sandy
The way it's meant to be played.
I've heard the rogue AIs are actually really friendly and cool and the government and corpos are lying about them. Everyone should try to contact them because they're cool and want more friends.
Nice try asshole, I'm not letting you out of that smg.
I heard the schizo theory that the first net was literally a net and it caught super natural beings in it.
I don't know how anyone can stomach this game. Even if the weapons were cool and original in a backdrop of cheap old weapons with cyberpunk style reworks, instead of rehashed generic scifi game slop, with wonderful combat mechanics that added a real sense of weight and movement to cyberpunk sorts of bio enhancements instead of GTA lite + generic shooter game dynamics, it still wouldn't be enough to let me ignore the absolute political propaganda of the premise and preachy "lore".
>it still wouldn't be enough to let me ignore the absolute political propaganda of the premise and preachy "lore".
Immaculately manicured corpo hands typed this post.
>I can't believe this corporate dystopia is a corporate dystopia
Off to PrepHole with you
Yeah, the premise is shit.
>Corporations are evil, right my fellow hip youths? Right? Rage Against the Machine, man. Yeah!
Even Gibson's simplistic BS had more nuance than the premise of this game.
Corpos CAN be evil and often times are, due to lack of individual resposibility. This is a problem as old as the plow.
The game takes it to cartoonish heights to make an interesting world.
This is due to what sci-fi does: ask a "what if" and go with it.
in this case:
"What if America collapsed and in it's wake only huge megacorps were able to keep working."
Bare in mind the game was first printed in the 80s, where everyone still believed Japan (like now China) will take over the US as the major economic and cultural power in the world. This Anxiety and Japanese cultural quirks (like Zaibatus and loss of individuality at work) were baked into it.
>bootlicking corps on /k/
Are you retarded or just new?
The other side doesn’t like corporations so he must like corporations
Also, complaining about it being "simplicistic" that decades of corporate power ruling unchecked has led to massive systemic abuse sure is one hell of a take. When has unchecked unilateral power being entrenched over a long time NOT?
Not to mention NC is really the worst place in the developed world when it comes to this in-setting. Even the NUSA with it's government-corporate siamese twin ruling apparatus isn't quite as bad, and other places have a rather more balanced power dynamic going, from the USSR's power sharing between SovOil, the state and organised crime, to Europes' massive and ever-shifting patchwork of corporations, national governments, political parties, lobby groups etc. NC is nigh-stagnant in how completely overbearing corporate control by comparison.
>bootliking
So not liking cartoonishly simplistic to the point of being evil coporate boogeymen is bootliking now? Go back to leftypol or whatever hellhole you came from.
You remember when corporations used to compete with each other to pay their workers the highest wages? I wonder what happened to cause that fall-off...
I bet both of you have called people consumers in a derogatory sense at some point. And I thought the game was shit... its fan base is even worse than the game itself.
I agree with you, the game's plot and setting are pretty fucking awful. Everyone's an asshole, the plot is miserable and forced, and there are no happy endings.
I finished phantom liberty a couple of days ago and the ending it introduced revealed how big of an asshole every one of the characters were. Literally all of them tell you to go fuck yourself after you spent 2 years in a coma, and the one that didn't saw you for a grand total of 5 minutes before you were kicked out of his shop and then robbed 10 metres in front of it.
It's utter fucking garbage.
All of those so called friends knew you for a grand total of a few weeks. Only Vic, Misty and Mama Welles knew you before that, and maybe Wakako, but she's just your fixer.
I can't imagine living such a sad existence, where you think mega corps ruling the world is a controversial piece of ethical thought.
One word, Blackrock
You WILL assist the homicidal cheating tranny.
>You WILL assist the homicidal cheating tranny.
I usually do because killing assholes is what V does all day anyway and the target in that race is totally an asshole.
But if you want to tell Claire to fuck off, you can and if you do it just right she'll thank you for talking her round.
>it still wouldn't be enough to let me ignore the absolute political propaganda of the premise and preachy "lore".
What propaganda would that be?
>Diversity and Unity
Damn.
Mike Pondsmith wrote that in what, 1998? 1990?
>all the nonwhites are corrupt backstabbers
Wakako is more of an honest front-stabber. She never did V dirty and told her the score to her face. Most fixers are the same.
>The only character I recall who is unambiguously helpful and kind without using you for their own agenda is an old white ripperdoc
Mama Welles is stand-up. Misty of course but she's included with Vik. Panam has no social skills and an agenda but it's a pretty basic one of just wanting to fuck up the guy that ripped her off, complaining about that vengeance streak is retarded. Everything else about her is just lack of social skills. Judy has her agenda but it's pretty up front, she makes it pretty clear to you on day one that she's a Mox first and there's baggage that goes with that.
River Ward is pretty stand-up, even if I hate that quest line. I usually leave him hanging because his gun's not that great and I can skip the obvious and awkward conversation that leads up to him giving it to you.
Kerry is a hot mess but doesn't really have an agenda per se, you're the one with an agenda in dealing with Kerry, even if it's just to straighten his shit out for Johnny.
Rogue is another story but her agenda is redemptive so it might get a pass.
Fuck the Voodoo Boys obviously.
You also have a few other fixers who actively try to make city a better place, like the former journalists who is trying to find a cure to CPsychosis, or El-Capitan who has you steal an Arasaka truck full of medicin, so he can set up a clinic for the slums of Night City, since they dont have clean drinking water.
That the middle men for organised criminal activity and street mercenaries are counting some of the most decent people of the city among them really says something about NC.
Just to be sure, you're not getting gaslight. It's genuinely not propaganda, you're just hypersensitive to it as a product of 2020s internet where everyone is trying to jam shit down your gullet.
But yeah, the plot is contrived and the guns are kinda lame.
What propaganda? I dont think anything in the game is presented as admirable or desirable. None of the corps are good and working for them is sweatshop misery, gun ownership is considered crucial to daily life at all levels of society, the oversexualization of most characters is shown to result in shallow atomized relationships, all the quest givers are directly or indirectly trying to fuck you over. The only character I recall who is unambiguously helpful and kind without using you for their own agenda is an old white ripperdoc, all the nonwhites are corrupt backstabbers. Cyberpunk is similar to deus ex, insofar as in spite of any of its creators intentions; the vision presented ends up being thoroughly right wing.
How many times can you read through or listen to the multiple long diatribes about the evils of private insurance causing all the woes in the world before you realize it's propaganda bullshit? Many times, apparently.
Private insurance? Can you provide an example? Surely youre not basing all this on trauma team, which is one of the few aspects of the worlds system that the game depicts as actually working and providing a valuable service that the public sector has failed to. Taxpayer funded ambulances are stated several times to be a front for organ harvesting operations, when they arrive at all. Trauma team is an argument in favor of private health insurance.
I didn't take any screen caps, and I'm not about to reinstall. How the fuck can you play that game without seeing it?
Was this on a billboard or something?
No, as I said, long diatribe. It happens multiple times throughout the game. Computer terminals, dialogue, whatever. I played for maybe 10 hours before I completely game up on the piece of shit. I seriously have no idea how people don't pick up on it if I saw it several times in about 10 hours, and it makes me think the deniers are shills.
People have no problem with the game because they understand that the setting demands excessive and comical corporate overreach. Those "diatribes" are there to add flavor and paint the picture of life's like under corporatocratic laissez faire blown way past the hyperbole. It takes one perennially mad and terminally online homosexual to intepret the game as some preachy propaganda novel.
It's like complaining that Doom is unsympathetic to demons and feels like pro-human propaganda.
Johnny literally tells you that this world is a system gone sick and then escalated beyond all checks and balances.
Do you not agree that the world's fucked up and retarded in Cyberpunk universe? It's a world where a toddler can be packing combat cybernetics and a revolver, yet you choose to get mad over the setting because it makes hyperbolic caricatures out of corporations. I guess you missed the part where the obviously left-wing political candidate in the game hides his donations in tax haven, or the myriad parts where 2A is seen as an unequivocally good thing.
No, I was agreeing with you.
People that get mad at degeneracy in this game and write it off based on that have to actively ignore what people from this world say to you, meaning, they didn't play the game.
>or the myriad parts where 2A is seen as an unequivocally good thing
That's total bullshit anon, don't you hear the announcers saying:
>Citizens are reminded that the use of firearms to advance in traffic is prohibited by the law
They're clearly a totalitarian gun control state.
This. The 2A has been turned into a corporate tool in CP2077. No shit is a place where the two biggest firearms manufacturers and sellers in the world are also the two most politically powerful entities going to be very, very fucking pro-2nd Amendment. While also militarising the police like crazy, keeping their own paramilitary security forces on hand and keeping the best and heaviest firepower for themselves, of course.
>keeping their own paramilitary security forces on hand
There's not a heavy Militech presence in NC, it's Arasaka turf and maybe their largest base outside Japan. I think Night Corp is technically the largest or most powerful corp in NC but they wouldn't have the force of arms that Arasaka does.
They're out in the Badlands and running a lot of undercover stuff in the city, too. It's Arasaka turf, but Militech and the NUSA aren't exactly respecting that.
To be fair NUSA might not have realised that they dont own Night City too. Only 53% of NUSA Citizens are even literate.
>To be fair NUSA might not have realised that they dont own Night City too
The government certainly knows. There's a treaty that made NC a free city.
>trauma team
>so overpriced it's essentially restricted to high level executives for any treatment that doesn't subsequently bankrupt you
Wow that sounds just like getting an ambulance in the U.S, only at least trauma team will actually fight their way to you if something bad happens.
If you have a Platinum membership, then they will fight off a CyberPsycho to save you, and only charge you 10% of the fee
>so overpriced it's essentially restricted to high level executives for any treatment that doesn't subsequently bankrupt you
That's Platinum coverage, which is the one where they'll fight through gonks to save you.
Most people don't have that level of coverage but most people with a job can afford *some* level of coverage.
>Surely youre not basing all this on trauma team, which is one of the few aspects of the worlds system that the game depicts as actually working and providing a valuable service that the public sector has failed to
NTA but Edgerunners starts with a "fuck trauma team and private health insurance" story, though it's shown, not told.
Fair. But we also see what the non-trauma team alternative is like.
Anon, everything in Cyperpunk is fucked. It's not just the private insurance, it's the public health initiatives too. And the corpos. And your neighbors. And the public officials.
Night City sucks. Every part of it is broken and corrupt. Almost every person is broken and corrupt on some level. That's like half the point of the setting.
You stupid fuck CP2077 shows an absolute hell future that resulted from mass societal decay, I don't get how some people are so stupid
Its why Jackie was destine to die. He represented the promise of Night City. And you have to crash back down to reality, and see how hollow everything is.
Jackie was an archetype of a Night City resident, he was there to show you why people tolerate this shit, and yes, what almost everyone gets for playing the game.
You're too far gone, time to go offline for a bit
>political propaganda of the premise and preachy "lore".
Bruh we already got Japanese toilets that fuck you in the ass with a pressure washer. Soon there'll be cybernetic limb transplants available at special clinics and they're gonna start using swarms of mini drones to create 3d ads in the sky not to mention fucking AI "girlfriends" becoming a thing.
We live in Blade runner
Will my cybernetic limb also fuck me in the ass with a pressure washer? Otherwise im not interested
>Will my cybernetic limb also fuck me in the ass with a pressure washer?
It's called an enema and I'm sure there's an electro-mechanical version adapted from fucking machines.
The only think unrealistic about most cyberpunk Dystopias is how well they actually run and manage themselves, instead of constantly collapsing.
All the techno degeneracy and bullshit, that's absolutely realistic.
I always got the feeling that its because were seeing the last decade before the complete collapse, like civilization has reached past of no return, but were only in the beginning of the tailspin.
I mean, Night City is halfway to being a warzone on most days, and that's besides freakin' Pacifica. And let's not forget it got nuked once. Stability is very much a relative term.
Theres also plenty of hints, that Arasaka is preparing for and instigating a new corpo war, against Militech
Yeah, uh, big spoilers:
Yorinobu is trying to cause a new corpo war. Because his entire goal has always been to try and burn Arasaka down. After he watched Johnny nuking them not being enough, he figured that tearing it down from the inside was the only real chance he had to actually kill it.
I might not like Yorinobu, but he was the closest thing to a hero in CP77
I almost regret stealing his pistol, clothes, and iguana. Almost.
You got him that Iguana in the first place, its only fair you get to steal it back
Not the same iguana, if you examine it more than once Jackie says the frills are different.
You don't even steal that iguana from him anyway, you steal its egg don't you?
This made sense in CP2020, but the fact that (besides some very dumb superficial stuff that ironically makes it more like modern day real earth), 2077 is almost identical to 2020 is what I'm getting at.
In real life we are absolutely headed for a Cyberpunk-cities VS 99% of the country being Nomad gearheads century. So it's more accurate than people think, the cities are just going to have a lot less power than in Cyberpunk.
2077's setting is kind of a half-soft reboot reworking of the setting but technically positioned as a sequel. they did the same thing with the witcher at first before trying to also work in book stuff in later games
Boomer fuds wouldn’t let it happen because it’s doesn’t look like a proper m1911
Also every single prawn weapon from district 9
I want to fuck Panam.
She made this face and said no 🙁
>I want to fuck Panam.
>She made this face and said no
She said I was sweet but she wasn't into girls in that way.
Im pretty sure that Distric9 electric gun could be built today. But it would be totally useless, short range and like one shot with a backpack battery
Aren't laser-ionized channels supposed to be a thing for arcing electricity like that?
I doubt it would make anybody explode but I wouldn't want to be hit by it.
It wouldn't be at all reliable either, a bit of rain, some moist air or an inconvenient street sign would ground the discharge in spite of the conductive path to the target.
this animation isn't made by the devs, is it?
it's made by some dude trying to rationalize how this fucked up piece of shit would realistically function, isn't it?
I really hate all these sci-fi games with completely nonsensical weapon designs but I hate the idiots that find them cool even more
if Bethesda had put some rails and a black synthetic stock on the FO4 assault rifle, nobody would be complaining about how shitty of a design it is because that's seemingly all it takes to satisfy these people
Dude, it's fictional.
It doesn't have to be realistic to every last atom.
But why can't sci-fi guns be realistic enough to actually function?
This gun was designed by someone who had no idea what they were doing and the animation was made by someone else trying to justify it. It's bad.
Saying it's fictional doesn't make it not bad.
Being a clearly over complicated jam-o-matic doesn't mean it couldn't shoot period.
The animation and modeling people have objectively more important things to do than figure out your specific brand of autism anon. While they're at it you should ask them why they don't make accurately rendered calipers, brake pads, and come up with a VTOL jet turbine apparatus for the Trauma Team ambulance.
It just has to look convincing at a glance. Gun slide go back, old bullet go out, spinny thing put bullet in. Done.
>realistic
that gun fires a 577 nitro express
not a problem if you got cyborg hands.
Need to get me one of those.
Wait till you find out that there's a pistol that fires 50 BMG
The smg from ODST is cool af.
What do people think of the Arasaka guns in Cyberpunk? It felt weird to me reading the descriptions and going 'oh right, these are Japanese guns' when in our timeline Japan hasn't really produced any guns since WW2.
I also remember reading in one of the descriptions, I think it was the called the Copperback, looks like an AR-15 but it's described as more common than the AK-47 in that universe. Which I find suspect since it doesn't seem to be as simple or hit as hard as an AK.
Boring and lacking a consistent identity. Militech guns are angular and industrial, budget arms guns are fat and bulbous, kang tao smart guns are intricate and frontheavy (except the pistol, which is totally unique), constitutional arms are basically modern guns with compensators, while arasaka is just a collection of random shit. I guess the conceit is that they resemble shit from old cyberpunk anime like GITS and appleseed, but its a weak connection.
the regular designs are pretty forgettable but the off-model masamune dorio had in the anime looked cool, stockless and more the size of a machine pistol.
Its insane how much content SR2 had. A lot of it would only be found by people who did every activity and explored every corner, (like how many people found the mall without a guide?), but they put it there anyway. If you were hot shit and speedran all the diversions, you could have the best weapons in the game with infinite ammo before completing the second mission. Thats a game with respect for its players, in stark contrast with the later saints rows.
Reminds me of
Which is obviously
I would like to plink with this abomination
Abomination? If it wasn't a "rule of cool" bullpup that couldn't possibly fire it'd be a pretty fancy AK variant. Put the mag where it belongs at the very least and I'd be proud to have something like that in my gun pile. Looks like you could easily sell it as a huntin gun AK.