Polish - Korean adventures continue.

According to Wolski, a Polish osint guy who knows people around military and is rather correct in what he say Poland will build the last batch of Krabs and stop production and instead build 650 k9PL on license.
>500 Himars
>650 k9
Yea. We going for arty only.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    K9 is the most advanced mobile artillery in the world, its also the newest and most expensive and has a 50% global market share

    650 K9s is a lot, more than enough for a full scale regional war

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Poland getting ready to invade Russia? Poland arming up with the most advanced equipment, not the hand me down 3+ decade crap that Ukraine has and is being donated, something is going on to drive this build up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No but war with pidorashka is no longer in the realm of fantasy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia chimping out and germoney cucking out made poles realize that russians "liberating" Poland is not off the table. If Balts had the money they would buy everyone a few javelin tubes to keep around in the basement.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Balts do have more money than Poland proportionally, just nit that big of population.
        But afaik, Lithuania alone is getting more boxers, pzh2000, switchblades, bayraktars and 4 apache helicopters

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >apaches
          When the fuck did that happen ?
          If i knew that 5 years prior i would have entered flightschool just for that, i bet it was the estonians
          >.t lithuanian

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think he means black hawks, just like we're getting
            >t. lett

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poles know that they are the new east germany. And they know Germany won't help them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least Poland knows NATO won't offer them any ground support whatsoever if they get attacked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What? Poland literally has NATO troops in it, right now. The Bongs have got Challenger 2's in large numbers there. Furthermore, if you think Russia can make an effective push with NATO air force flying sorties from Germany et al, then you're fucking deluded. Unless Russia has 1,000 Su-34's with quantum shielding ready to deploy, Russia will lose any limited protection they have from their air force (good luck flying sorties when AA systems overlap from several countries) and then proceed to have their ground stuff deleted bit by bit as they bang their head on defensive units. If they're struggling to break through Ukrainian defensive, they'll have no luck doing so against NATO when half their shit is destroyed or damaged in Ukraine lol.

        https://i.imgur.com/Yv0CXp5.jpg

        Is Poland getting ready to invade Russia? Poland arming up with the most advanced equipment, not the hand me down 3+ decade crap that Ukraine has and is being donated, something is going on to drive this build up

        Poland doesn't want a situation where it is reliant on other nations to help. They will help as they're in their nation already, but just in case, they're wisely building up. Or if you believe vatniks, they're planning to invade Belarus/Russia/Ukraine!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Much obliged, this is the absolute truth. I am now fully demoralized and withdrawn support to nazi hohol state. Slava Z, I kneel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Polish doctrine is defensive. What's with this idea that Poland is about to invade Russia? Sounds like FSB fearmongering bullshit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More like hoping that it happens.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germany and France have proven themselves to be Russian puppet states.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, that's just what happens when your country is led by ineffectual neoliberal cucks. The same goes for most of Europe. Their euro-socialist bullshit looks fine on paper until an outside adversary comes in to show that the emperor has no clothes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i am guessing usa has simply realized that poles might make a much better ally in case of ww3 than germans would. so they greenlighted the idea to make poland an eu citadel of sorts so that they can focus on china when shit hits the fan instead of splitting their troops to defend the eu.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Germany and France are unreliable.
        Brits are kinda too far with being on the island and all.
        Other countries are too small and/or poor to take the role.
        There really is no alternative to Poland for the US.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          exactly. to add more, this move would fit very nicely into creating this uk-poland-baltics-romania axis that should in theory be able to stand on its own against russian forces sent to invade eu when ww3 begins.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is this what Poles tell themselfs?
          kek

          Just consider who will pay for all of it. He who pays will call the shots.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. Pooland drains EU budget. It would be best if we would ally with russia and partition pooland just like good ol times

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              pal wroty kacapie

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              now show per capita

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have something better.
                But the germ will never admit it, be cause the cognitive dissonance is too strong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Funny that Germany isn't on that list, isn't it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Probably because your GDP outflow is so minuscule it doesn't even register on the chart, retard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or because the list is specifically for Eastern Europe/Slav Nations

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A miracle why Polish people believe that they have to get more out of the EU taxation than they pay in.
                Nobody get's more out of it, there is stuff to pay in Brussels.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/yZDz3oW.jpg

            This. Pooland drains EU budget. It would be best if we would ally with russia and partition pooland just like good ol times

            >samefagging

            lmfao sad

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Don't give xer (you)s.
              Xe should be focused on watching Achmed fucking xer gf.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Kein Gleichschwuchteln.
              Just two upstanding German citizens that know who is to pay for Polands "Empire" ambitions.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Remember that we need to start killing poolacks in Germany

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/yZDz3oW.jpg

            This. Pooland drains EU budget. It would be best if we would ally with russia and partition pooland just like good ol times

            Why do krauts think they are important?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just take the money and do as you are told.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would I take my own money?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's kinda what's been coming up in various Polish think-tanks. For me it still sounds like science-fiction, but who knows. If US are determined to uplift Poland, I wouldn't be against it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sources? Genuinely curious

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So does this mean that the US is going to turn Germany into a barely first world nation like they did with Japan and prop up Poland to be pound for pound better than Germany like they did with SK?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're just children spending their EU gibs, not much to see here.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for the input, Achmed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would unironically be a good deal. Many European nations are looking at K9 to replace their old SPG platforms and spares from Europe would be nice incentive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is Poland getting ready to invade Russia?
      The great vatnik removal is upon us. Balts are arming up as well.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        15k eager Germans are waiting in Lithuania for the great happening. They also brought their gear.

        This shit is hilarious. In few years Poland will have a stronger military than Russia.

        Good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, it's probably to balance russian nuclear threats. If russia threats poland with nukes, polish artillery might be able to do the simmiliar level of damage to Kaliningrad.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There need's to be a 1000km+ missile for HIMARS
        Then we can blot out the sun over moscov

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hanwha advertisement thread, move along

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wolski
    >Rather correct
    That fag has been wrong about literally 90% of shit he says go back to wykop

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's a insufferable libfag; but he knows the technical data inside out.

      However his geopolitical analysis are, as You said, mostly fucked up.
      I think it's his garden gnomebook buttbuddies are propping him up, so he genuinely believes in own master strategic. These 30 - something years old are lacking absolutely any modesty whatsoever.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >This is pure madness, what are they having in mind?
    Russia delenda est
    t. polan

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong with Krabs? They are getting shit done.
    It's going to be Borsuk 2.0 situation, isn't it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germany is getting uppitty because Poland is sendimg Krabs to Ukraine and their withdrew their license or something. Perfidious krauts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's eighter
      >-Polish DoD isn't satisfied with Krab performance in Ukraine, maybe they want autoloader
      >-Germans canceling the licence for engine (there are some rumors)
      >-We are garden gnomeing Bongs. You see.. KRAB is a licenced k9 chasis + licensed and modified as90 turret. Now they would only share the profit with Koreans and cut off the bongs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >-Polish DoD isn't satisfied with Krab performance in Ukraine
        Why should they not be satisfied, when the Ukrainians themselves are really happy about the Krabs performance, and that's what actually matters?
        I would blame it on Germans again. Unless Wolski is simply taking his hitpiece news from PrepHole.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I know as much as you do. Another explanation i could think off is Koreans trying to sell things in "packets".
          >you want those tanks polan? Ok we sell cheap but you must also buy howitzers and planes, also on discount.
          Maybe it opens the doors for more potential deals. Doesn't Korea produce their own ATACMS missiles? They would fit really nice for our HIMARS.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I could see that deal making sense if there is also a transfer of technology involved, which Błaszczak has implied anyway. Because we need to produce this kind of stuff in-house if we want to be efficient.
            Also, I am almost sure the ATCMS for HIMARS will be produced in Poland, because imagine buying rockets to all those 500 launchers.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              GMLRS licence from burgers and ATACMS from kimchis. How does that sound?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like Górnowarmińsko-Mazurskie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seeing how Germany is acting when it comes to licensed hardware being exported Poland is trying to get independent from German made parts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's eighter
      >-Polish DoD isn't satisfied with Krab performance in Ukraine, maybe they want autoloader
      >-Germans canceling the licence for engine (there are some rumors)
      >-We are garden gnomeing Bongs. You see.. KRAB is a licenced k9 chasis + licensed and modified as90 turret. Now they would only share the profit with Koreans and cut off the bongs.

      might also be that they get some important tech transfer from SK as part of it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its becoming clear that Poland wants the best available options, the K2 and K9 are both the most expensive in their respective categories so they are not for the budget minded

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's nothing wrong with Krab, it's just that K9 is better for Polish needs because a 3-man crew is way better than a 5-man crew when you want to field 6 divisions with somewhat limited manpower.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Poland was actually on The Korean side in the Finn-Korean hyperwar.
    Intredasting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But poland was the part of Finnish khanate

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poland was heir to the finish khanate tho

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >500 HIMARS
    I kneel Polacks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We really want that Górnowarmińsko-Mazurskie district.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wogarden gnomeództwo Wkońcupolskie

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wogarden gnomeództwo Wkońcupolskie

        you could mash the keyboard at random and I couldn't tell if those are real polish places or not

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ÿąncʒøc ÿøcʒi
          Shit was even more fucked up in the past

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz from Chrząszczyżewoszyce, Łękołody Oblast, and I agree with this post.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >those quads

            iks day

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not a WMD strike when you raze Kaliningrad with conventional payloads

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Krab has german made parts. Best to stop making them quick before the GERMans take their mouth out of Putin's dick to protest again.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >K2, K2PL in the future CONFIRMED (580 rumored)
    >K9, K9PL in the future CONFIRMED
    >FA-50, FA-50PL in the future CONFIRMED (48 confirmed)
    >AS21 Redback IN TALKS ACCORDING TO SK INDUSTRY (670 rumored)
    >KM-SAM Block 2 IN TALKS ACCORDING TO SK INDUSTRY
    >TECHNOLOGY TRANSFERS INCLUDED
    https://gagadget.com/en/war/148722-poland-will-buy-from-south-korea-580-k2-black-panther-tanks-670-as21-redback-armored-vehicles-48-fa-50-fighters-and-o/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All this for $7 billion
      This deal has CIA written all over it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The whole deal wont be $7 billion
        180 K2 tanks - $2.3 billion
        48 FA-50 - $2.6 billion
        And then there are 150 K9 (mistakenly reported by US media as 670, which is the Redback number), forementioned Redbacks, KM-SAM Block 2 and possibly additional K2 (400 more were offered for $6.1 billion). The total without 400 additional K2 would likely be about $15 billion.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >without
          Meant to say with

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What is Poland going to do with ~600 K2s? Not far fetched that the plan is for Poland to take parts of western Ukraine as a buffer zone

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'll bite vatnig, these will replace old soviet shit we still have/we gave to ukraine. The end goal is probably a mix of Abrams and K2PL
            Ukraine is a more useful buffer as an independent country, plus they already love the shit out of us. There's no reason to waste that goodwill on a few kilometers of land
            Captcha: Y4NKK

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Likely but the equipment they are buying is the most expensive options in the world today so its not really a surprise

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This shit is hilarious. In few years Poland will have a stronger military than Russia.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, that's the idea. We already have a comparatively decent military, and even if 50% of those deals are completed, this will make us a powerhouse. Which is good, because our next task will most likely be protecting the entirety of central and eastern Europe. Maybe even the north.
        I am not even going to pretend that daddy USA is not helping us a lot with those deals, but this comes at the price, it's a two-way deal.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why does Poland buy so much from Korea, which isn't an ally and wouldn't come to Poland's defense in case of war?
      there are plenty of NATO/EU alternatives available:

      >K2 tank - M1 Abrams/Leclerc/Challenger/Leopard 2
      >K9 howitzer - PzH 2000/CAESAR/Archer
      >FA-50 light attack aircraft - Aermacchi M-346/Boeing T-7
      >Redback IFV - CV90/Lynx/ASCOD
      >KM-SAM (literally a variant of the Russian S-350 system) - Patriot/Aster/IRIS-T SL

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because they don't want to have to rely on NATO help.
        Koreans offer high degree of polonisation, transfer of technology, possibility of setting up manufacturing domestically and allow us to export the machines freeliy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Because they don't want to have to rely on NATO help.
          Instead their army will rely on spare parts imported from the other side of the world, from a country that will inevitably be involved in any war in Eastern Asia, cutting Poland off their supplies.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did you miss the part where domestic production is part of the deal or what?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              All of that will suddenly be produced at home?
              Doubtful.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >suddenly
                Obviously not starting tomorrow, retard. gay European countries (Poland included to certain extent) can't produce anything quickly enough anyway, it's pointless to buy from them. Korea can make 200 K9s per year while muh German industry shits the bed trying to make 20 tanks.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think you have the capacity to appreciate the qualitative differences.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, and sadly the 20 tanks they make will all have massive defect issues that require constant maintenance

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn, you're retarded.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks, you too

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >FA-50 light attack aircraft - Aermacchi M-346/Boeing T-7
        They're not even in the same category. One is supersonic and the rest aren't. Also, South Korean mic is heavily reliant on Government demands so they're more pliable and cooperative. Plus, it's cheaper to get stuffs from a single provider in terms of negotiating power.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Koreans give tech transfers and actually produce their crap
        I'm more then certain PiS would love to ignore their rhetoric and just get 500 Leo 2A7V's, but krauts can barely make 20 tanks a year. Not to mention poles got completely cucked from the MGCS program.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because poles wants to have a say on escalation ladder. US might just not want to give them certain capabilities to control escalation. Korea doesn't give a shit, they are just glad for making extra buck on their heavy industry. It's perfect win-win for both polan and korea.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lol if you think SK acts unilaterally ignoring the US, its all coordinated and precision orchestrated like a swiss watch

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is a sound argument to make, but the problem with european MIC is a huge degree of indecisiveness and red tape. Negotiations with Koreans are fast, decisive and they don't dance around transferring technology if it means securing a good deal. Korean industry is very solid and the most important thing is that they equipment to spare that can be sold on a short notice. We need backfil asap for t-72, pt-91 and Krabs that already went and will go in the future to ukraine.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        delivery time
        negotiating power
        we will probably also sign a deal to build nuclear reactors and maybe a national electric car manufacturing plant if that shit is still on the table
        fa50 is a bargain bin cheapo f16 which we are used to

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I guarantee 100% we're getting both. And it's a good thing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        germany and france wouldn't come as well

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck you

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            all the westerners do here is insult Poland, so i'm not that sure that france and germany will aid Poland. the most reliable ally is USA and it's still 70% of help

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >all the westerners do here is insult Poland, so i'm not that sure that france and germany will aid Poland.
              Thank you, Pavel from Warsaw oblast, a very true and insightful opinion.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He is right you know?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Rightfully so.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's bullshit and you know it. Germany literally has a joint unit with Poland (Multinational Corps Northeast) and sent 3 Eurofighters to patrol Polish airspace in response to the Russian invasion in March. Germany also has a permanent deployment leading the NATO forward presence in Lithuania right next to Poland. PrepHole seething aside, to me it's pretty clear the actual antagonism between Germany and Poland is coming from Warsaw, not Berlin.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >me it's pretty clear the actual antagonism between Germany and Poland is coming from Warsaw, not Berlin.
            maybe its coming from Moscow you fucking retard

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              nobody is doubting the fact that Russia is a threat and Germany has repeatedly said that it would stand by the NATO defense unconditionally, but that doesn't change that there are disputes between Germany and Poland.

              just like in 1939? i heard so many krauts telling me that reich was antagonised by warsaw so many times.

              no, not like 1939, you mouthbreathing retard. Is >MUH WW2 all you can come up with?
              maybe stop confusing PrepHole Nazis for actual politicians

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                blood you spilled won't be forgiven by simple "sorry" and still calling us subhuman behind our back. your coal-black hearts are filled with hatered towards Poland, and you're always want to kill Poles because it's your nature

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's funny how even the Israelis aren't as butthurt as you
                get the fuck over it, it was 80 years ago, neither of our parents were even alive

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Israel is not as butthurt because they buck broke Germany, Poland has not done that at least not yet

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Biggest reason Poland didn't have expand to the Urals is that they are lead by retards who fuck everything up. Like say, signing non-aggression pacts with Germany....

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Name one time in the history of europe where germans helped poles in a combat situation lol

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Likely. Military cooperation between the Baltics and Germany, as well as Poland and Germany is solid and there is no reason why NATO should fall apart.

              blood you spilled won't be forgiven by simple "sorry" and still calling us subhuman behind our back. your coal-black hearts are filled with hatered towards Poland, and you're always want to kill Poles because it's your nature

              He didn't spill that blood, as he wasn't alive then. And it wasn't your blood, as you where not alive then.
              It's a stupid argument in 2022.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can't rocka de quokka.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            just like in 1939? i heard so many krauts telling me that reich was antagonised by warsaw so many times.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If history is any indicator Poland getting attacked on their eastern front means that a German invasion is coming from the west

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Poland just have to get along with t*rks, and German pussies won't do shit

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Or take another page from the SK playbook and go all in on a US alliance and effectively become another state

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck you

        >France
        would pretend to help against Russia, in reality send negligible material support
        >Germany
        if not for American bases on their territory would happily ally with Russia and divide Poland along the Vistula river.

        Poland is alone with the Baltic states and maybe Slovakia+Czech Republic. America is most likely going to dump nato in the next 20 years as it makes less and less sense to be involved in Europe for them.
        With no more American soldiers in Germany they will start to go nazi again.

        It's all looking good tbh, especially if Americans invent some type of laser-based missile defense and we buy it in the future.
        Ideally we would have nuclear missiles, but it would require a nearly total collapse of Russia for that to become possible.
        Against a future resurgent neo-nazi Germany we just need to be strong enough to do a 'stabilization mission' when they start to seriously rearm under a new fuhrer, before their army actually becomes strong again. On this issue we are going to have an actual full support of France and the UK.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lay off the crack dude, you're hallucinating again

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >if not for American bases on their territory would happily ally with Russia and divide Poland along the Vistula river.
          Wrong. They would tell Poland to shut its fucking mouth and for the Baltics to stop celebrating Nazis. And they would have openly told the Russians that they can invade Ukraine and re-annex it. Because they don't give a shit.

          And then they would carry on with business.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Baltics to stop celebrating Nazis.
            we dont celebrate nazis, they lost the war because they were shit and retarded. We celebrate our SS volunteers that did their God given duty of killing russians.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >we dont celebrate nazis, they lost the war because they were shit and retarded.
              um

              >We celebrate our SS volunteers that did their God given duty of killing russians.
              You are dumber than the Poles.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You just dont understand how much we hate russians. Btw our 20th waffengrenadier SS batallion boys guarded the nazi tards during Nurenberg trials

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those are Nazis.

                >You just dont understand how much we hate russians.
                You goddamned idiot. Had it been England that conquered you you wouldn't even know what your language was CALLED anymore.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Those are Nazis.
                This is how you make it really obvious you are a vatmoron. Killing russians is apolitical and a divine duty, thats why the Allies assigned our SS batallion boys to guard actual nazis during Nurenberg trials.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is how you make it really obvious you are a vatmoron. Killing russians is apolitical and a divine duty, thats why the Allies assigned our SS batallion boys to guard actual nazis during Nurenberg trials.
                I smell a garden gnome.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Estonian)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >M1 Abrams
        Already ordered but USA can't pump out tanks in new versions as fast as Poland wants and domestic production in Poland is off the table
        >Leclerc
        France probably didn't want to sell or can't produce new ones fast enough, which isn't surprising because they are in the middle of developing a next gen tank
        >Challenger 2
        Could be an option. no idea why it wasn't chosen or even discussed, maybe UK said no to technology transfer
        >Leopard 2
        After seeing how Germany acted when it comes to licensed equipment Poland wants to put Leopards 2 in reserve. Also German parts supply from modernization of Leopards owned by Poland is atrocious.

        >K9 howitzer - PzH 2000/CAESAR/Archer
        This is a simple one, Poland already uses K9 chassis for Krab, now they want to get rid of German engine, for some reason it was decided to start producing whole K9 instead of keeping the existing turret

        >FA-50 light attack aircraft - Aermacchi M-346/Boeing T-7
        This is one I really don't understand. Probably it got chosen because it can be delivered the fastest. Literally any other option would be better.

        >Redback IFV - CV90/Lynx/ASCOD
        Part of the deal with K2 also delivery times were the main factor, it's meant to supplement Borsuk production.

        >KM-SAM
        Was on the table but as far as I know it's not a part of the current deal. Poland is getting Patriots and CAMM

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >for some reason it was decided to start producing whole K9 instead of keeping the existing turret
          Turret is licensed from brits, so it makes sense to just drop it and get the entire design from the morons while they are at it. Especially since the new one would be fitted with an autoloader

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/8rSnnzI.jpg

          According to Wolski, a Polish osint guy who knows people around military and is rather correct in what he say Poland will build the last batch of Krabs and stop production and instead build 650 k9PL on license.
          >500 Himars
          >650 k9
          Yea. We going for arty only.

          >K2
          Is not ideal. Perfect would be K2PL with added armour on sides and armored and with blowout panels (or removed) for ammo storage in haul. It's better to have some tank than no tank but I hope there will be possibility to upgrade K2 to K2PL.

          It's just not the best tank and also small numbers of available tanks.

          2
          Rifled gun. Small numbers of available tanks.
          Only Challenger 3 would make sense, but bongos only want to make 148 of them and it will be made by krauts by upgrading old hauls.

          2
          1 tank per mouth up to 20. This this is what krauts can do. No technology transfer, no ammo, problems with greeting speechification to upgrade them, no parts... Pile of other problems.
          >>K9 howitzer - PzH 2000/CAESAR/Archer
          >This is a simple one, Poland already uses K9 chassis for Krab, now they want to get rid of German engine, for some reason it was decided to start producing whole K9 instead of keeping the existing turret

          I believe K9 use licensed german engine... With new turret you get automatic loader for ammo and propellant (for example PzH 2000 loader only load ammo). It could be domestically designed but i suppose it's faster to just buy it...

          >CAESAR/Archer
          New wheeled artillery may come, in future, but it have it's pros and cons. But i would expect something more in terms of Czech ShKH MORANA

          >>FA-50 light attack aircraft - Aermacchi M-346/Boeing T-7
          >This is one I really don't understand. Probably it got chosen because it can be delivered the fastest. Literally any other option would be better.

          They wanted more F-16 or F-35, but F-16 was uneconomical (cost of those from the desert), and there is very long queue for F-35.

          >Aermacchi M-346
          There was something about half of those in PL being broken.

          >Boeing T-7
          Can those be armed and used in combat? cuz that is the goal with FA-50

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and with blowout panels (or removed) for ammo storage in haul.
            ?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think he means that K2PL will either have blowout panels for hull ammo storage or they will be removed entirely(I don't see the latter happening)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah i dont see either of those happening.
                It would require either a major redesign of the hull structure, or an ammo load that i doubt would be acceptable for a modern MBT.n

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                K2PL is supposed to have a redesigned hull and turret to increase the internal volume. That's one of the major aspects our MoD wants to be there in the end. If you look at the K2PL mockup, it has a slightly different turret and hull layout.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's better to have some tank than no tank but I hope there will be possibility to upgrade K2 to K2PL.
            Isn't that what we are going to do long term?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              K2 and K2PL has a completely different chassis so it is best to convert those 180 K2 into K2NO configuration.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/8rSnnzI.jpg

          According to Wolski, a Polish osint guy who knows people around military and is rather correct in what he say Poland will build the last batch of Krabs and stop production and instead build 650 k9PL on license.
          >500 Himars
          >650 k9
          Yea. We going for arty only.

          (OP)

          https://i.imgur.com/AZvESdF.jpg

          [...]

          >K2
          Is not ideal. Perfect would be K2PL with added armour on sides and armored and with blowout panels (or removed) for ammo storage in haul. It's better to have some tank than no tank but I hope there will be possibility to upgrade K2 to K2PL.

          It's just not the best tank and also small numbers of available tanks.

          2
          Rifled gun. Small numbers of available tanks.
          Only Challenger 3 would make sense, but bongos only want to make 148 of them and it will be made by krauts by upgrading old hauls.

          2
          1 tank per mouth up to 20. This this is what krauts can do. No technology transfer, no ammo, problems with greeting speechification to upgrade them, no parts... Pile of other problems.
          >>K9 howitzer - PzH 2000/CAESAR/Archer
          >This is a simple one, Poland already uses K9 chassis for Krab, now they want to get rid of German engine, for some reason it was decided to start producing whole K9 instead of keeping the existing turret

          I believe K9 use licensed german engine... With new turret you get automatic loader for ammo and propellant (for example PzH 2000 loader only load ammo). It could be domestically designed but i suppose it's faster to just buy it...

          >CAESAR/Archer
          New wheeled artillery may come, in future, but it have it's pros and cons. But i would expect something more in terms of Czech ShKH MORANA

          >>FA-50 light attack aircraft - Aermacchi M-346/Boeing T-7
          >This is one I really don't understand. Probably it got chosen because it can be delivered the fastest. Literally any other option would be better.

          They wanted more F-16 or F-35, but F-16 was uneconomical (cost of those from the desert), and there is very long queue for F-35.

          >Aermacchi M-346
          There was something about half of those in PL being broken.

          >Boeing T-7
          Can those be armed and used in combat? cuz that is the goal with FA-50

          Forgot to add. K9 stores ammo in safer way, and crew don't do stupid shit like in Ukraine that destroyed this Krab

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/XZbGdII.jpg

          why does Poland buy so much from Korea, which isn't an ally and wouldn't come to Poland's defense in case of war?
          there are plenty of NATO/EU alternatives available:

          >K2 tank - M1 Abrams/Leclerc/Challenger/Leopard 2
          >K9 howitzer - PzH 2000/CAESAR/Archer
          >FA-50 light attack aircraft - Aermacchi M-346/Boeing T-7
          >Redback IFV - CV90/Lynx/ASCOD
          >KM-SAM (literally a variant of the Russian S-350 system) - Patriot/Aster/IRIS-T SL

          >K2 tank - M1 Abrams/Leclerc/Challenger/Leopard 2
          >M1 Abrams
          Poland are already buying lots of them, but no tech transfer or domestic production. They are there to quickly replace the T-72 and PT-91s in service relatively quickly
          >Leclerc
          Out of production. France just upgrades tanks it has
          >Leopard 2
          As the Poles found out, Germans are assholes when it comes to dealing with them for spare parts and modernisations. K2 is there to replace Leopard 2.
          >Challenger 2
          This is a tank that has been out of production for over 20 years and it's factory is now closed and bulldozed down.
          Challenger 3 is just a new turret on an old hull, no new actual tanks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >This is one I really don't understand. Probably it got chosen because it can be delivered the fastest. Literally any other option would be better.
          That's the idea. MoD confirmed that we can get FA-50 in PL standard as soon as 2023, which is ridiculously quick. And also: FA-50 are a package deal. One higher-up in the MoD let a slip that Poland is very interested in the KF-21, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >K2 - better than M1/Leopard 2 but obviously more expensive, Leclerc/Challenger? lol
        >K9 - the only modern mobile artillery system in the world today
        Redback - IFV version of the K2, expensive but no other IFV comes close and can probably take out some non-first tier mbts if needed
        > FA50 - nobody uses this as their main fighter jets but as a supplement to 4.5/5 gen fighters it fulfills the role better than any others, more effective than all 3 gen and some 4 gen fighters too, also surprisingly elite tier level performances in actual combat
        >KM SAM - should have gone with the L-SAM which has a 100 mile range + 61km ceiling with supposed performance levels 2x Patriot

        SK is fully integrated into the US defense system, no country is close, there are others that are probably closer on an intel basis but in terms of force projection SK is the greatest non-US ally for the US

        If Poland is serious about wanting to win they will go with the best available as they appear to be doing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Look at newest Korean concept tank, it looks awfully familiar..

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      180 K2s in the first patch confirmed (to be delivered by 2024). The confirmations from Polish govt we got today about K2, K9 and FA-50 all match Korean media reports from a few days ago, so Redbacks are almost certain (rumored announcement date is 27th). KM-SAM is the biggest question mark, as it's been only ever said that Poland is "very interested" in buying it, with no concrete numbers or confirmation.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here's news about it dating as far back as 185th July. FA-50 and K2 numbers are identical to what Polish govt announced today.
        https://grandfleet.info/indo-pacific-related/will-korea-and-poland-conclude-a-contract-to-introduce-k2-x-580-fa-50-x-48-at-the-end-of-this-month/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      180 K2s in the first patch confirmed (to be delivered by 2024). The confirmations from Polish govt we got today about K2, K9 and FA-50 all match Korean media reports from a few days ago, so Redbacks are almost certain (rumored announcement date is 27th). KM-SAM is the biggest question mark, as it's been only ever said that Poland is "very interested" in buying it, with no concrete numbers or confirmation.

      Good shit, I had honestly thought that they wouldn't go through with the K2PL, since they bought another batch of Abrams. I guess they'll use 2 (or 3?) main battle tanks now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Leopards 2 will most likely end up mothballed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why would they mothball them if they're currently upgrading them?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dabbing on germans is good enough reason to me, but what else are we supposed to do?
            The whole project was a shitshow and keeping 3 types of operational MBTs is kinda pointless.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >mothball 250 perfectly modern MBTs because you're butthurt at Germany
              at least give them to Ukraine

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they are going to be most likely sold to a third country since Germs proven they are ready to betray anyone just so they can continue to inhale russian farts

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Germany delivers PzH 2000s directly to Ukraine
                >greenlights Spain sending Leopard 2s to Ukraine
                >hurr evil Germany will block Polish Leopard deliveries to Ukraine kurrwa!!!!!

                impressive mental gymnastics to justify your butthurt

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >have one of the biggest military industrial complex in the world
                >send less stuff to ukraine than Polaks or Bongs
                >most of it is useless shit that wont change the course of the war and they do it just so their allies get off their back
                Also we must mention the ongoing energy crisisin EU that is being fabricated by germans in order to put even more pressure on Ukraine by Autumn to sign a peace deal with Putin. I seriously doubt any eastern euros will buy any german stuff for their armies after recent happenings

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>have one of the biggest military industrial complex in the world
                >>send less stuff to ukraine than Polaks or Bongs
                a big MIC doesn't help you much if you don't have readily available stocks of weapons. Germany had to take out Pzh 2000s from its army inventory. Modern weaponry is manufactured and takes months/years to build.
                Also, Germany is under no obligation to help as much as Poland or the UK, but that's beside the point.
                >>most of it is useless shit
                Pzh 2000, M270, anti-tank mines, Panzerfaust 3, Stinger, hand grenades, ammo, protective equipment, trucks, fuel, armored cars, small recon drones, etc. aren't useless shit.
                >energy crisisin EU that is being fabricated by germans in order to put even more pressure on Ukraine
                Germans didn't care about Ukraine or Russia at all before the invasion. The energy crisis is the result of retarded greens who are afraid of nuclear energy, that's it.
                >I seriously doubt any eastern euros will buy any german stuff for their armies after recent happenings
                Lithuania is buying Pzh 2000 and Boxers, Hungary is buying Leopards, Pzh 2000s, Lynx and probably that Rheinmetall howitzer
                Slovenia just bought Boxers
                Czechia is getting Leopard 2

                I mean we don't need to continue this debate, I agree German retardedness has led to big problems, mainly the nuclear phaseout and neglect of the army, but you insinuate it's all some hostility and German evil desire to harm Poland and Ukraine, when that's really not the case.

                Of various Leo2 models most of them being shitty 2a4/5 variants and the rest not working or as the other anon said in open storage rusted to fuck. Show me one image of more than 20 Leopards on a training exercise.

                all German Leo 2s are A6 or A7

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Also, Germany is under no obligation to help as much as Poland or the UK, but that's beside the point.
                Nobody is under obligation to help Ukraine. They are all doing it either out of their own interests or goodwill. You are just an indifferent golem that will roll over if russians ever come for your country.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but the Russians won't come for our country, because they fucking can't. German military is permanently deployed to Lithuania. Germany has sent and is continuing to send arms to Ukraine. Germany is sanctioning Russia. Yes you can argue that Germany has underestimated the threat of Russia before the invasion and done too little to prepare, you can even argue that we're not helping Ukraine enough now, but to say that we're somehow on Russia's side is pure autism.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You should always prepare for worst case scenario. Your army is in shambles and will take years if not decades to recover from it's current sorry state. A lot can change in this time. You should be happy Poland wants to be a strong buffer zone for you and many other western-european countries, yet you come into every thread raving about german gibs and how it's all thanks to you. How can we not hate you for this? Your 100billion of additional one-time funding will amount to next to nothing in the grander scheme of things. Your politicians will keep curbing any sort of attempts at expanding the military. Your soldiers will keep using brooms in their training.

                This in Germany will remain the same.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You should always prepare for worst case scenario.
                no, you should make politics based on reality. And the reality is that Germany is firmly inside its alliances, EU and NATO. It'd be retarded to act like that wasn't the case.
                >You should be happy Poland wants to be a strong buffer zone for you and many other western-european countries
                Poland wants to protect itself primarily (nothing wrong with this), but even without Polish military expansion, Russia wouldn't be fucking able to get through Poland before it's BTFO by NATO. Stop acting like Poland is le savior of Europe and everyone else in Europe is dependent on you, it's cringe.
                >you come into every thread raving about german gibs and how it's all thanks to you.
                I don't, can't speak for other German posters. Ofc there are retarded German posters on here, but so are many retarded Polish posters who act as if Germany is Poland's enemy and LARP about how Poland will invade Germany. It's a fact that Germany and Poland are allied and it's a fact that German investments have helped Poland's economy massively in recent years.

                Nit the guy who you are replying too but most of the aid sent by Germany is just filling shit tbh apart from the Pzh2k (very low number) M270 (hasn't been sent yet) pz3, matador, iris t and a few other stuff. It's mostly shit anon, mines, small arms ammo etc aren't needed it's just shit bro.

                You are right about people not stopping buying German kit though I doubt that will be effected, however relying on German promises or any kind of defence pact would be laughed at probably.

                [...]
                Have you seen what's deployed there? I don't think you have so I'd probably stop talking if I were you it's beneath pathetic and very very reflective of the state of German armour readiness.

                >mines, small arms ammo etc aren't needed it's just shit bro.
                please stop talking to me, you seriously need to take your meds

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Realpolitik is cancer and you should stop thinking this meme ideology is gonna benefit you in the long run.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also
                > And the reality is that Germany is firmly inside its alliances, EU and NATO
                Shut the fuck up. You can't even be bothered to spend 2% of your GDP on army expenditure.
                Not to mention your whole internal fuckery in EU.

                I'm not even gonna adress the rest of your pointless drivel.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Don't bully me
                Bro are you fucking stupid do you realise how many soviet mines and how much small arms ammo Ukraine has you think a couple German AT mines makes any fucking difference? It's literally the only shite your sad excuse of a military had at hand that wasn't rotting in a wooden box somewhere.

                It's just trash bro send a few more tons of AdBlue or somthing gay to make yourself feel better.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nit the guy who you are replying too but most of the aid sent by Germany is just filling shit tbh apart from the Pzh2k (very low number) M270 (hasn't been sent yet) pz3, matador, iris t and a few other stuff. It's mostly shit anon, mines, small arms ammo etc aren't needed it's just shit bro.

                You are right about people not stopping buying German kit though I doubt that will be effected, however relying on German promises or any kind of defence pact would be laughed at probably.

                but the Russians won't come for our country, because they fucking can't. German military is permanently deployed to Lithuania. Germany has sent and is continuing to send arms to Ukraine. Germany is sanctioning Russia. Yes you can argue that Germany has underestimated the threat of Russia before the invasion and done too little to prepare, you can even argue that we're not helping Ukraine enough now, but to say that we're somehow on Russia's side is pure autism.

                Have you seen what's deployed there? I don't think you have so I'd probably stop talking if I were you it's beneath pathetic and very very reflective of the state of German armour readiness.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Doesn't matter how much facts you dispense, you can't beat the shill army that tries to construct a conflict between Poland and Germany and Poland and France.
                It's 100% astroturfed, but there is just so many of them spreading BS, you can't win.

                I have given up. The narrative that Germany/France is actively working with Russia is already embedded deeply in minds of too many Poles. It's like that Elders of Zion BS Russia invented. Doesn't matter if it's true or not after some time, just repeat a lie over and over and over and over.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sadly true, it's tiresome.

                Realpolitik is cancer and you should stop thinking this meme ideology is gonna benefit you in the long run.

                Also
                > And the reality is that Germany is firmly inside its alliances, EU and NATO
                Shut the fuck up. You can't even be bothered to spend 2% of your GDP on army expenditure.
                Not to mention your whole internal fuckery in EU.

                I'm not even gonna adress the rest of your pointless drivel.

                it's sad how you misconstrue what I wrote to turn it into some sort of attack, can't be assed to go on this way. It seems like you're desperate to portray us as enemy.

                >Don't bully me
                Bro are you fucking stupid do you realise how many soviet mines and how much small arms ammo Ukraine has you think a couple German AT mines makes any fucking difference? It's literally the only shite your sad excuse of a military had at hand that wasn't rotting in a wooden box somewhere.

                It's just trash bro send a few more tons of AdBlue or somthing gay to make yourself feel better.

                you're literally on here 24/7 and posting the same shit about Germany for months on end, who's doing what to make himself feel better? you're some autistic bong who's obsessed with Germany and probably strokes his micropenis to pictures of your army

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's sad how you misconstrue what I wrote to turn it into some sort of attack, can't be assed to go on this way. It seems like you're desperate to portray us as enemy.
                You misconstrued my previous posts as well, so I guess that makes you a hypocrite.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They will be mothballed, but not at once. Only once there is enough k2 (so we're talking 2030ish) at that point our leo would be at the end of their lifecycle anyways.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It has to be approved by Germany first. I doubt they will agree to that. The thing with Spanish Leopards panned out only because there was 20 of them.

                At the earliest I would see them in Ukraine maybe in two years, once we get a substantial amount of tanks we have bought.

                How about your country sends some tanks to Ukraine? We have sent/will send 500 tanks already.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Germany only has about 300 tanks in total, none of them mothballed. They're needed for national/NATO defense. If Poland is mothballing its Leo 2s just to "dab on Germans", may as well send them to Ukraine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe you should have more tanks.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe you should have more tanks.

                Also, you don't have any mothballed because you leave them in open storage to rust away. That's one way to get rid of unwanted tanks I suppose.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Of various Leo2 models most of them being shitty 2a4/5 variants and the rest not working or as the other anon said in open storage rusted to fuck. Show me one image of more than 20 Leopards on a training exercise.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >According to a guy on PrepHole, there's a reliable intelligence source online called Wolski. According to Wolski, there's a reliable intelligence officer they have access to. According to this reliable intelligence officer...
    Etc
    This thread is bumped by bots

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone from Poland who's at least slightly interested in military matters knows Wolski.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes, and we also know that since the start of the war his ego overcame the orbit of jupiter.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Regardless, his info was at least somewhat correct. The purchase of K2, K9 and FA-50 and future production of Polish variants in Poland has been confirmed today. See

          https://i.imgur.com/ko2CDAr.png

          >K2, K2PL in the future CONFIRMED (580 rumored)
          >K9, K9PL in the future CONFIRMED
          >FA-50, FA-50PL in the future CONFIRMED (48 confirmed)
          >AS21 Redback IN TALKS ACCORDING TO SK INDUSTRY (670 rumored)
          >KM-SAM Block 2 IN TALKS ACCORDING TO SK INDUSTRY
          >TECHNOLOGY TRANSFERS INCLUDED
          https://gagadget.com/en/war/148722-poland-will-buy-from-south-korea-580-k2-black-panther-tanks-670-as21-redback-armored-vehicles-48-fa-50-fighters-and-o/

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wouldn't trust him about frontline news and tactical analyses since he'd been mistaken numerous times, but in the other hand he is mostly on point with the insider info regarding contracts or arms purchases.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wolski writes articles for military magazines in Poland, is a pretty big OSINT figure here and has insider connections.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    here come the germ schizos

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You poolacks are going to feel the might of bundeswehr soon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Remember that we need to start killing poolacks in Germany

        Nimm deine Medikamente.
        You and i are not the same. There is nothing wrong with Poland arming itself against the east. Nothing at all. We will gladly pay for it. Germany will support Poland where it can, fundamentally we share values and that is what counts.
        Germans that live 80 years in the past have to accept that they lost.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks fren, you keep euro industry going and we'll keep the vatmorons out

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >German siding with the Poles without any passive aggressive chimping out

          Am I reading this correctly or am I in a lucid dream?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cope poolack. It's probably one of your fellow toilet scrubbers working here

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Its so obvious that you are some 4chan shizo cmon.
              "Haha bros I said poolack because like poo comes out from anus haha hoho I am 14 south american commie btw hehe". Seen your bunch too often to not recognize that writing style.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                4chan is the soul of PrepHole while you reddit poolacks don't belong here

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >/pol/
                >soul

                If that "sovl" means that 80% are shizoid incels who fight for ANY kind of attention by sperging out histerically...either way. Commies get a rope/bullet/beating/torture session/helicopter ride.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The rare non-subhuman krautoid

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry boo but the Bundeswehr is very, VERY weak. So weak that we will unironically not see them getting strong in our life times. No offense.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If they are giving away technology does that mean they have better shit in their basement?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wish it could be paid with german blood instead of their money.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing I'm gonna feel is my cock your mouth, kraut.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Le kraut diaspora has arrived

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thinking it's some sort of diaspora
      Anon, you're simply wrong.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poland is also negotiating contracts to build nuclear reactors. Korea is one of the main bidders alongside France and USA. Seems like Koreans have a good chance winning it looking at the recent military purchases.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Deformacja

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kraków królewska

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Deformacja

      Where are my soul bros...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Korea is one of the main bidders alongside France and USA.
      I only read about France and the US.
      France building reactors in Poland would be the biggest dab on Krauts since the creation of the EU.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think the deal is done. I've seen in some korean news in english on yt few weeks ago that 60b dolar deal was made at nato summit in madrid. Chechs also made some 5b dolar deal with koreans.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are poles such a koreaboos?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cuz i fucked ur mom last night bitch

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Having to dig a woman out of grave to have sex
        grim

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's the german reality.
          Fucking corpses because all the women have been taken by moslems.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I guess it's because their tech is really good, and they are willing to transfer their technology to us, which is a big boon.
      Do you imagine Germans allowing us Poland to build Leopards on their own?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It could be the tech sharing as the K2 is $8.5 million per unit versus the Leopard 2 at $5.7 million per unit, also the Leopard 2 has a spotty track record in actual combat

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    makes sense, artillery is a lot more cost effective then other long range weaponry, only burgers can afford a giant airforce

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >commie Hispanic desperately tries to D&C
    >already got one sock puppet IP banned

    oh no no no Gonzalobros. Not like this!

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Heil hitler

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >168cm manlet lol

    Dude has a really gracile looking jaw for a man

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Still could beat you up

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Poland requests additional supply of K2, export scale will increase from 580 to 880
    >Poland has requested "additional introduction of 300 vehicles" for the introduction of K2, which is under negotiation with South Korea, and it is reported that the final export scale will increase from 580 vehicles to 880 vehicles and it will be a contract of 13 billion dollars. Combined with other contracts such as FA-50, it will be a $ 20 billion transaction.
    WTF bros, I'm getting scared out here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even the russians are not stupid enough to attack a Poland with 1k K2s at least not on the ground, its going to end up being a deterrent to any ground invasions, the question is does Poland use them to expand east or southeast?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Poland had about 900 tanks before the invasion. So the total number won't grow that much.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's a difference between having 900 K2s and 900 other mbts

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >This is pure madness, what are they having in mind?
    A final solution to the Russian issue
    t. bolan

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mft retarded krauts and poles are arguing again instead of teaming up with us balts and the rest of Eastern Europe and genociding every r*ssian from toddlers to babushkas
    have you dumb morons SEEN how much lebensraum there is in the east?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nobody needs lebensraum with below replacement fertility rates.

      lay off the crack dude, you're hallucinating again

      entire western europe called Poles russophobic for warning against Russia. The reality is that some things are eternal.
      As long as Germany exists, it's going to attack Poland eventually. Not because it makes any economic sense but due to their racial instincts.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >nobody needs lebensraum with below replacement fertility rates.
        to be fair I dont want le lebensraum either, I just want to kill russians. But I dont know how to motivate the retarded germs any other way.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop replying to the germ morons. You keep falling for it in every thread. Stop letting them derail the threads.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poland is going all out on Korea because Korea doesn't have any opposing political interests or at least any that would directly oppose Poland. Poland already bought a lot from United States so they want to diversify in some way, also in the case on conflict to be able to conduct military operations by itself not by a call from the white house. Korea is also really open on technology transfer and production in Poland. US will never share its technology and local production with American military corps is so expensive it works only in some abysmal scale. Korea and US are also able to produce and work on military stuff in a short period of time. Western EU is basically a joke, no production capability, opposing political interests, no chance ever of technology or production in Poland, Poland got kicked out of EU maim battle tank project this year, which is questionable given Poland wants to aquire the most tanks from all of EU. Also nobody in Poland believes EU is gonna do anything in a case of conflict and US is still on the opposite side of the world so they are building up their own military.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poland is now the frontline NATO country as West Germany was during the Cold War, and similarly will maintain a large, modern, conventional army.

    It does the raise the question though if all new-production Krabs are going to Ukraine, and furthermore maybe even all Krabs currently in service will be supplanted fully by K9 and be passed on to Ukraine.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kraut can't recall helping Poland because all they did throughout history was kill Poles

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Polands pulling some big moves. I wish the UK MoD would have joined in with the Poles on the Korean stuff we could have ordered a fuck ton of K9s and K21s at the same time to bring the cost down for both countries.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >UK unable to produce its own SPH
      for real?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        K9 is the best in the world right now, no point wasting r+d money to save 'muh jobs' that's where the majority of our Defence procurement gets fucked over by greedy cunts taking the piss.

        Just buy the best thing available.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >UK unable to produce its own SPH
          for real?

          https://i.imgur.com/4LzmNpS.jpg

          Polands pulling some big moves. I wish the UK MoD would have joined in with the Poles on the Korean stuff we could have ordered a fuck ton of K9s and K21s at the same time to bring the cost down for both countries.

          UK MoD is currently deciding a new SPG under the Mobile Fires Program.
          K9A2 is one of the submitted competitors

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGHHGHGGHHH I MUST PROCOOOOREE!!!!!!!

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >>you can't beat the shill army that tries to construct a conflict between Poland and Germany and Poland and France
    >it's both sides
    Nice try, FSB.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you know wat i meant.

      Support of:

      >Deep economical sanctions on Russia
      >Providing weapons to Ukraine sufficient to defending the country
      >Blocking of Nard Stream 2
      >Acceptance of immigrants

      >Blue: Poland
      >Gray: Germany

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Poles replacing the proven Krab, which has the full R&D and support ready, with a K9?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The gun is old ass shit without auto loading by now and the engine is German which could bring problems in the future. Plus we produced less of them in the last 20 years than Korea can make within one year.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The why are we propping the Korean industry instead of investing into HSW to match the demand?

        https://i.imgur.com/hFjp11y.jpg

        AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGHHGHGGHHH I MUST PROCOOOOREE!!!!!!!

        >

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The why are we propping the Korean industry instead of investing into HSW to match the demand?
          Because you can't make up for the 30 years we basically wasted in the required timeframe. Look at Germany, their MIC is supposedly much better, yet they can barely shit out 20 tanks a year. It would take decades to bring HSW to the level that allows them to meet current needs and we don't have that time.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Like, our army steel refurbishes '67 steel helmets for training purposes and shit when even I, a fucking middle class civvie has a ballistic nylon one. No country outside of UK and maybe Finland took army seriously until this war and now everyone's scrapping with purchases and shit, only some countries are in less danger than the others. Poland, being on the first line, needs to buy stuff ASAP.

            Thanks for serious answer, but the shitstorm on twatter is reaching another level with the fucking HSW CEO claiming pic related, and local experts cumming and farting in anger over the deal

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              As usual, there's a lot of people who would want to produce everything locally, only they don't understand how big of an effort it is. HSW is a joke in a lot of ways too. They literally only buy as much stuff as our MoD orders so when we turn to them for spare parts, they literally have none at hand and we need to wait God knows how long until they procure them while our vehicles gather dust unused. Typical Polish "januszerka" - would like to earn billions while only putting the minimal effort required. Maybe all those purchases from Korea will make them finally pull weight. They took a lot of stuff for granted before and it shows.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like, our army steel refurbishes '67 steel helmets for training purposes and shit when even I, a fucking middle class civvie has a ballistic nylon one. No country outside of UK and maybe Finland took army seriously until this war and now everyone's scrapping with purchases and shit, only some countries are in less danger than the others. Poland, being on the first line, needs to buy stuff ASAP.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >No country outside of UK and maybe Finland
            Was talking about the EU and its economic area of course.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      K9 is at least just as good probably a bit better and it's not a Frankenstein of parts from 4 different countries.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    People in Poland hate the shit out of German govt, this is nothing special. Most don't have anything against Germans themselves, but govt is another matter.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Not actually reading the posts you quote and see they represent different views

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wat is false flag

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The fact our beloved neighbors pressed Canada and Lithuania into breaking the sanctions (Nordstream 1 gas turbine and railway to Kaliningrad); are calling to abolish EU veto system, demand free gas from all the Europe, and d are actively working to topple current PL govt doesn't help, tho.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >abolish EU veto system
      The right thing tho, because with it nothing can ever be achieved.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And with it the Western countries alongside their Eastern exclaves will always have majority and ignore interests of the likes of Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, etc.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >interests of the likes of Poland
          >*vetoes new anti-corruption regulations*

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            bs
            not happened, if you don't remember it was Poland who wanted to make this anti corruption law (anti defraudation) from wage term "rule of law". Then when vote passed TSUE ignored definition.

            Map of corruption in Europe don't correlate with countries that have problems with "rule of law" as TSUE states.

            >they stand together in all the issues
            but they don't, you don't know what you're talking about.
            Germany is anti-nuclear, France is pro-nuclear
            France is pro-shared debt, Germany is anti-shared debt
            France is pro-EU army, Germany less so
            Germany is for federalization, France is skeptical of it

            idk why you think they're somehow united against Poland, if it's about that judiciary thing, it was basically the entire EU that criticizes Poland for it, not just France and Germany.

            >idk why you think they're somehow united against Poland, if it's about that judiciary thing, it was basically the entire EU that criticizes Poland for it, not just France and Germany.

            Literally copied parts form German and French law. I'm not saying that reform that they made would solve problems, of polish judicial system but blocking it is bs. I take it as another form of westplaining.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >every geopolitical decision made by Germany in the past several decades was wrong
        >we must reform the EU to force everyone to follow Germany's decisions

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the EU has 447 million inhabitants, Germany has 83 million
          also Germany isn't one voting bloc...
          the point of abolishing the veto system is making the EU actually capable to make decisions, something it's criticized for all the time by Euroskeptics.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Germany and France are the main decision makers and they stand together in all the issues Germany as recently exposed as terribly wrong on. The EU would be worse off if they had more power to compel countries like Poland to their will over the past years.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >and they stand together in all the issues
              Why do you have to lie, gay moron?
              We've always been the complete opposite of Germany when it comes to energy and dependance on single providers, especially as they favoured Russian gas instead of nuclear in their new "green" taxes.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they stand together in all the issues
              but they don't, you don't know what you're talking about.
              Germany is anti-nuclear, France is pro-nuclear
              France is pro-shared debt, Germany is anti-shared debt
              France is pro-EU army, Germany less so
              Germany is for federalization, France is skeptical of it

              idk why you think they're somehow united against Poland, if it's about that judiciary thing, it was basically the entire EU that criticizes Poland for it, not just France and Germany.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This.
              Now Bongland has gone there is no balance they were the ones who always messed things up for them. I hate the EU bros.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fitting, bongs left because of Polish migrants.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, Polish were accepted that's just a meme. It was the Romanians, Bulgarians that tipped us over the edge with them came wave after wave of gypsies.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Romania and Bulgaria are not in Schengen.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And leaving EU doesn't change anything when it comes to immigration from those countries.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you retarded or have you been living in a box for the past few years? What are you trying to say

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You said you left because of Bulgarian and Romanian gypsies immigrating, but they couldn't just come in as they pleased since they're not in Schengen. So leaving EU doesn't change anything, if you let them in before, you'll let them in now too, and if you don't want to let them in, you could do that without leaving the EU.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're confusing Schengen with freedom of movement. Schengen means you don't have to show a passport at the border. Freedom of movement means that EU citizens can move to and work in other EU countries regardless of Schengen. The UK was never in Schengen.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >wave after wave of gypsies

                Oh my god, it was so nice when basically all the gypsies left at the same time and criminal rates dropped in more than half in 1 year.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Alot of the gypsies don't understand the rules to remain so went back.
                The Romanians and Bulgarians also went back thus the outcry for farm jobs, truck drivers and delivery drivers which turned out nice because all of those jobs pay what they should now.
                But you didn't know any of that real world stuff because you live under a rock on 4chan

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know man, seems as if Germany is the 4th largest economy worldwide, despite only having a workforce of 42 million people.
          They seem to be doing something right.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Marshall Plan is a strong starting point.
            Now enter the cheap Russkie hydrocarbons.
            The cheap Turk and later Slav workforce.
            Cheap materials from China.
            Suppression of competition by EU bureaucracy.
            Financing various NGOs leveraging the soft power.
            Strong currency greatly benefits the economy thanks to trade surplus.

            Now, count how many of these went out of window in last five months.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              u r pure jelly'n'cope

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Germany received the least out of the marshal plan, compared to France or Britain. It got itseld out of the muck on its own.All Polacks ever did was whine and demand money, instead of building their own future. Today Polackland is leeching off Ger...EU monies like it has been doing since some retard let them into EU. Without outside monies Polackland would be 3rd world tier.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Germany received the least out of the marshal plan, compared to France or Britain.
                Can't verify that.

                >It got itseld out of the muck on its own.
                No nation is an iland.

                >All Polacks ever did was whine and demand money,
                That is a fact.

                >Without outside monies Polackland would be 3rd world tier.
                Same is true for Germany and every other first world nation, dingus.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >abolish EU veto system
      you should know it's necessary, it's what led to the fall of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >are calling to abolish EU veto system
      This is good, the veto system is constantly abused by third world shitters like Hungary and Pooland, and now it's being abused by Krauts.
      Veto doesn't mean smaller nations don't have a say, it means anyone can block the entire continent's politics just to shit on someone.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >germans doing something shit/embarrassing
    >get called out
    >"Nouuuu zat must be ay conspiracy!!!!11einseinself"

    top jej

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >vas is dis! People LOVE Germany it must be a conspiracy by an unfriendly nation

    Get a grip, no one likes you and every green text you autistically quoted is true.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buying lots of stuff from Korea is a fine strategy. The idea is to have lots of weapons to deter Russia from invading to begin with. The world saw how weak Russia actually is so messing with a strongly armed nation would be off the table for them. I’m sure the Poles are well aware Korean gear isn’t competitive with Western gear but right now it’s the numbers that matter. And the fact is Korea can put out numbers at a cut rate.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I’m sure the Poles are well aware Korean gear isn’t competitive with Western gear but right now it’s the numbers that matter.
      unironic cope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Poles are well aware Korean gear isn’t competitive with Western gear
      Doesn't have to be, there is no risk from NATO or neighbors to attack them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol everybody in the world knows SK weapons are the best in almost every category they produce, the fact that all of their stuff is more expensive but still sell like hot cakes should indicate something to even the delusional

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean……everyone knows it’s way better than Chinese crap. It’s expensive compared to Chinese arms but vs Western systems they’re much cheaper. The K9 is way cheaper than PzH2k—it’s also much worse in accuracy speed and protection, but even if you wanted the best Germany takes forever to deliver products. Korea puts out big numbers and because it’s all older and off-the-shelf tech the Koreans don’t bother protecting it and let customers do their own production. So if you need numbers, need it quick, and can settle for "good enough" than Korean arms are compelling.

        We should have acquired the PzH2k as Congress suggested if the Crusader was a no-go. Then Germany could tool up for big numbers quickly in today’s situation. Oh well.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it’s also much worse in accuracy speed and protection

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          K2 is $9+ million, M1A2 is $8 million, Leopard is around $5 to 7 million depending on the model, the 2A7 is more expensive than the K2 but that is effectively a prototype with less than 20 that are actually operational, KAI has prototypes with more units that are planned to be 2x+ the 2A7s and when released, which will be before the 2A7s can even produce 100 useable models, will have over 500 units per year none of which that will break down every day like the Leopard models lol

          Face it, the A&D industry is all US and SK for the next several decades not the least of which due to both nations sharing high end tech only amongst themselves

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The daewoo K2 assault rifle is also more expensive than any M4 and literally 2.5x the hk416

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          K9 has an ability to hit targets on the sea using only standard 155mm ammunition and it is one of the reasons why Egypt has selected it as a replacement for the existing soviet made 130mm coastal guns. How is this inaccurate in any sense? Also, unlike PZH which doesn't have a dedicated resupply vehicle, K10 already exists.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          PzH2000 costs 17million Euro. It's completely insane. Sure it's a bit better than K9 but it's not worth the price.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Korean gear isn’t competitive with Western gear
      ???

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bmp

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    this is replacement for old post soviet stuff - Poland has always had lots of armor and mechanized infantry - we cut only non mechanized conscript infantry post cold war - whats left looks similar to what Russians use - lots of heavy equipment with minimal professional infantry as most of this role is planned to be filled by infantry heavy regional forces (WOT).

    besides it only looks as a lot because modernization was put on for few past years and now because of Russian chimpout most (not all) overdue stalled programs are realized at once

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More updates from today.
    The final goal is 1000K2PL tanks, including 180 basic K2 that will later get upgraded to K2PL and over 800 self propelled artillery including Krabs, K9 and K9PL.
    Simultaneous production in Poland and Korea for both tanks and and K9 and K9PL. Krabs produced in Poland up to 2026.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lemme guess: Wolski's newest interview with col. Płatek?
      I guess the only thing everybody is scared of right now is goverment change in Poland and pro-German Donald going "fuck it, we don't need that large of an army".

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Lemme guess: Wolski's newest interview with col. Płatek?
        yep
        >I guess the only thing everybody is scared of right now is goverment change in Poland and pro-German Donald going "fuck it, we don't need that large of an army".
        exactly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh also there will be no K21

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How can poland afford all this shit I thought they were poor

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We were poor 20 years ago. Now, we are pretty well off, we just like spending money on nonsense.
      This whole army modernization is the only investment in last 10 years where money is being used correctly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you want to know how well the country is going, watch what their cops drive. Two decades ago, Polish cops were driving around in Polonez. Now they have BMWs and Alfa Romeos. If the government have money for that, they have money for everything.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >If the government have money for that, they have money for everything.
          Well, we literally have money to give away. Don't even get me started on 500+, which is literally money thrown into a dumpster.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just for the record, this thing is a Polonez.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and it was the greatest fucking car in history

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nah, that's Maluch.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poland was growing as fast as China for like 20 years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Top kek, that map is shit. Vatnik and Polish numbers are too high.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How can poland afford all this shit I thought they were poor
      Have you ever wondered how 3rd world countries like Egypt get weaponry? It's all paid for by the exporting countries with interest-free loans.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Poland and Korea will not only built those 1000 K2PL but also will work towards a next generation tank

    My peepee hard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That + a potential new generation of Polish/Korean K9/Krab + Poland eyeing KF-21 sounds like a very good news.
      For the first time in ever I want to vote on PiS, if only this kind of trend continues.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >will work towards a next generation tank

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why can't they make their actual high tech product look high tech.
        ZSSW-30 looks ghetto 70s tier despite being full of fancy shit.
        Sci-fi bodykit when?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pls no

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But that's literally what it will be.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It looks like something that Bruce Wayne keeps in his Batcave.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              4u

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why can't we enter into tech-sharing agreement with italy? Polski FIAT could rise again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have you seen the prototype of the new Polonez, though?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        souless vs SOVL

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MoD spokesman basically let it slip that they expect Ukraine to fail and a war by 2025, hence the warmaxxing.
    It's over.
    How do I get a Canadian visa?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am utterly demoralized by your post, comrade.
      Mucho obligado.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WTF, i hate the west now!

        >you're a rushill!
        MoD just went through more money in three weeks than it did in the last 10 years.
        They also bought twice as much gear as they have people to man, which means there must either be mass mobilization, or it will be used to equip the Ukrainian army-in-exile.
        You don't win elections by getting into giga-debt or conscripting people so the panic level must be severe.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WTF, i hate the west now!

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bump.
    Talking points from the interview with MOD spokesman.

    It's on, motherfuckers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I seriously hope this deal doesn't get fucked up somewhere along the way

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Go to elections
        >Vote PiS
        It's that simple.
        Sorry anon, but in any other case it's gonna be "refurbished Leopard 2A4 every month, starting March 2023, twenty units".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i unironically became fan of the father of the nation

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Once a bribe has been given, SK is very adamant they get their side of the deal as per the agreement.
        morons can get mean.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          7D chess to cuck the Germgrophile faction confirmed?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do we need Langustas for? I thought the idea behind this rollover was to mothball all the post-Soviet shit.
      Although I do like that PL has an SK alternative in case that HIMARS deal somehow gets fucked.

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