Poland to send largest package of military aid for Ukraine

Probably all PT-91, T-72, BWP (BMP-1) etc.

https://twitter.com/MON_GOV_PL/status/1616014186391429120

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Noice.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kek, the ukropiggies got pounded hard at Bakhmut and Soledar, the west is getting desperate since the line could break at any moment.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no amount of equipment can offset the Okrainian daily losses though lmao.
      they are losing about a division every three days around Bakhmut. Totally unsustainable.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        source? they are the defenders remember, so just imagine what the vatniks are losing...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So what you're saying is the Russians are losing about ten divisions every three days at Bakhmut, given proven and undeniable casualty ratios?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the momentum of taking a couple of km after months of heavy fighting only to stop your advance after less than a week
      even in WWI fighting this would be seen as a failed offensive

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My brother in Christ, Russians are still capturing one major city in the timeframe of losing the whole of Kharkiv oblast, a chunk of Luhansk oblast and foothold on the right bank of Dnipro including the capital of annexed region.
      Bakhmut and Soledar are tough, but you have to be completely inadequate to describe this situation as anything but grim for Russians.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no amount of equipment can offset the Okrainian daily losses though lmao.
      they are losing about a division every three days around Bakhmut. Totally unsustainable.

      Vatmoron samefags are too easy to spot.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >three da-
      >two wee-
      >one mont-
      >three mont-
      >seven mont-
      >one yea-
      Tell me when you guys said the plan was a two year war from the very beginning.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Largest vs what? Largest they themselves have sent or what?

      >took until second post not first
      no bonus potato for you this week

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bakhmut and Soledar
    >still not captured by russia

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    plus 300,000 plungers, 25,000 plumbing snakes and 15,000,000 bottles of drain cleaner

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >300,000 plungers, 25,000 plumbing snakes and 15,000,000 bottles of drain cleaner
      Jealous?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all the stuff poojets cant afford

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And an ocean of vatnik tears.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For Russians this is same as Wunderwaffe

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As pallet?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          CUNY
          C-ute
          U-niformed
          N-ational
          Y-eomanry

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're on the reconquest of Russia... and installation of indoor plumbing thereafter

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wtf I love Poland now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >plus 300,000 plungers, 25,000 plumbing snakes and 15,000,000 bottles of drain cleaner
      Used to the outdoor defecation, Pajeet trembles in fear at sight of these incomprehensible items and devices.
      However his fear is soon alleviated by vatnik explaining that he actually tried using these things in his wooden outhouse, and none of them worked at all.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It'll help remove Russian shit from Ukraine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The liberated territories gonna have shortages of the mentioned equipment.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >100 strykers
    >50 bradleys
    >50 CV90
    >12~ Archers
    >Challengers
    >Now this
    What's next?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >France is considering transferring its Leclerc battle tanks to Ukraine to encourage Germany to supply Ukraine with heavy armored vehicles.

      Perhaps AMX-56 Leclerc

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Macron for all his sweet talks on the phone with Putin is infinitely less cucked than Scholz

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder if Russia had started the attack if SPD hadn't won the election.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Macron wanted to be the great diplomat and peace broker if need be. The fact the war happened at all made him look foolish and he probably felt betrayed on a personal level since he believed he had a good relationship with Putin. It's not hard to imagine that he's pissed off with the whole situation, and anything to show up the Germans is an added bonus.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he's planning on fixing Napoleon's fuckup
          can you image Leclercs on the streets of moscow? Napoleon's skeleton would get a boner

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          JVPITER OPTIMVS MAXIMVS I-I kneel…

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They need to send them, they need to get a real combat trial done for reaserch and development.

        germany should learn from them on wich side they are, are they they good gyus or russia sucking whore

        >Macron for all his sweet talks on the phone with Putin is infinitely less cucked than Scholz

        Germany will send leopards, stop buying propaganda

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Germany (and Austria) have an issue of being dick holsters for Russia. Scholz drags his feet while everyone already has low expectations of Macron.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because if Russia wins here and germany goes full hostile then they are fucked.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      100 Bradleys. 50 before, 50 new ones in the new package

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just leave a couple B61s on the runway in Kyiv and be done with this shit show.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    germany should learn from them on wich side they are, are they they good gyus or russia sucking whore

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      America has donated no Abrahams and no F-16s.
      Whose ducking side are YOU on, cunt?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I believe it when I see it

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am surprised we still have shit to send.
    Wait, that's what this great loadout of American shit few days ago was all about?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You guys are modernizing, you are using this as an opportunity to dump all your soviet era trash.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Polish prime minister has said they will send Leopards regardless of whether Germany agrees or not

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Polish say lots of things

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >German reparations to Poland are Leopard tanks to Ukraine
      I hope germany does freeze

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muh reparations

        Fuck you, no more special gibs for you. Now get back to cleaning toilets, Mikolaj.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't have a toilet, Patel.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Polish prime minister has said they will send Leopards regardless of whether Germany agrees or not

        why the FUCK are the germans being such morons now? them bitching about everybody havign to send tanks is fuckign non-sensical since multiple countries already did send tanks, including modern western tanks.

        Even motherfucking slovenia sent fucking tanks

        i hate germs so much

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >including modern western tanks
          Nobody did yet unless the Challenger is already in Ukraine

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i meant to say that they are sending them, the germans are acting like cunts for no reason

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, they are just mirroring the US. Which is sound strategy, given that there is more at stake than just Ukraine.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >given that there is more at stake than just Ukraine.
                Correct. This is the free world's chance to grind r*ssia into the dirt. We have to take this opportunity with both hands.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Send 1500 Abrams then.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It’s very easy. Instead of draining european arsenals, send 500 Abrams. It’s obvious why the US doesn’t want to do it. Uncle Cracker wants to big a piece of the pie.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but sending leopards makes much more logistical sense, since many euro countries use them and their manufacturing base is much closer, for one.
            why should america send these complex and maintenance intensive vehicles across an ocean when the Leopards are arguably just as good but are much closer.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No it doesn’t. US strategic reserves are bigger and there are already enough Abrams in european depots to serve all of Ukraines needs. There is enough service infrastructure for them in Germany and if you claim the US would be incapable of building service infrastructure in Poland, you are dilusional.
              It’s a game of chicken. If Leos are sent, the US gets to replace the stocks for political gain. If Abrams are sent, the US has less ability to use their reserve to buy influence while Germany can still use Leo production to get that influence or at least keep US influence in Europe down.
              This has nothing to do with military practicality. It’s long term power politics.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because America has more tanks in storage than the entirety of Europe combined has in active service

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All of the US tanks in Europe are top of the line M1A2 SEPv2 and V3s though.
                Germany are being told to send their abundant shitty old Leopard 2A4s, not A7s. The krauts give away 2A4s to export customers for nothing as a sweetener until they can deliver A6/A7s
                It will take months to ship older generation M1A1s from the US

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Germany doesn't even have 2A7s themselves. They have 20. Not sure how many of those are even in working condition.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s not the point. The point is that the US wants to fill the gaps in the european depots with their tanks they don’t have production facilities for anymore and gaining political leverage rather than burning them in the steppes. The Europeans don’t want to empty their depots and be totally reliant on US goodwill because Leo2 production cannot fill the holes fast enough. Poland being the exception because of elections recent tank orders and general lust for flinging shit at Germany.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not "germans" it's unironically just Scholz that spineless gay. Literally everybody else wants those tanks to go to Ukraine. The vatniks probably have the biggest fucking kompromat in history on this dude because there's absolutely no other reason

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They really can't do that. Technically they can of course ship them but international law simply doesn't allow it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What is Germany going to do? Impose MORE sanctions on us?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What sanctions

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Really risky move. Breaking trade agreements like that will incur penalties no matter who does it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >risky
        the poles are already salavating at the opportunity of getting to cry about German oppression for real this time

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no one asks for source
      gays, all of you

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s all over the news. Use google.
        He cannot break the agreement, though. Germany will call the bluff.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if you want to send the Leopards so bad, why haven't you requested the export license yet?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why would I request some kraut bureaucracy shit?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            of course you can't answer my question, because if you did you'd have to own up to being lying gays who fabricated yet another PR stunt at Germany. Same as how you turned Germany's offer of Patriot missiles after the missile incident into an attack on Germany. Actually remarkable how shameless and spineless you people are.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >yet another PR stunt at Germany.
              Just like that time when you krauts sent mouldy Strelas to Ukraine that refused to fire 9/10 times and Ukrainians had to refurbish themselves? Or that time when your defence minister literally described Gepards as "pew pew gun go boom plane go plop"?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that time when your defence minister literally described Gepards as "pew pew gun go boom plane go plop"
                Is she wrong?

              • 2 weeks ago
                T-I-G-E-R-S

                Are you retarded, or strawman? Ukies straight out asked for familiar MANPADS, launchers and missiles aren't molding - the crates do. And considering how shitty a fourth years old Strelas are, some 700 faulty units out of 2500 is perfectly acceptable.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Igla would be familiar. Strela was ancient in soviet times already
                >launchers and missiles aren't molding
                Yes they do
                Fuel goes bad, elctronics oxidize, liquid nitrogen evaporises, batteries die, etc.
                Just FYI, my friend went to work on one of Ukrainian MIC factories that happened to be the one that repaired kraut shit (named Pr****** located in N*****)
                They had to pull up the archives that nobody touched since the 80s. Shit was written in india ink, and half of it was eaten off by cockroaches. Backups were made in the 80s and were on 12mm magnetic tape like picrel. And to make it worse, it was compatible only with some strange soviet hardware. They legit had to assemble one working machine from modules that somehow weren't scrapped and were laying around on like a dozen of different factories. They had to pull several Electronmash engineers from retirement
                AND ALL THIS ONLY TO FIND THAT ~70% OF THOSE STRELAS ARE FUCKING UNREPAIRABLE
                After that production association director had to ask the minister of defence to not accept moldy kraut shit

              • 2 weeks ago
                T-I-G-E-R-S

                Riveting tale, chap

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's your right to not believe me, but just out of curiosity, what proofs would you want?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One that doesn't get both of us labelled as "ungrateful Slav bastards" 🙁

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Uh-oh broski, then we better forget those strelas existed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NPO Progress, in Nizhyn?

                That gas-sniffer won't believe you anyway, don't waste your time

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but whatabout this and that irrelevant shit?
                at least you don't try to deny the sneaky bullshit the Polish government is pulling, fair enough.

                NTA, but we haven't turned down the Patriots. They gonna stay in Poland, under Polish command.
                Meanwhile, USA, Germany and Netherlands are sending three batteries to Ukraine. Despite German govt. December stance. Weird, huh?

                >we haven't turned down the Patriots.
                Germany offered a German army patriot unit to be deployed to Poland after the missile incident to protect Poland. Instead of saying, "yes, thanks", Poland started seething at Germany and saying bad bad Germany should send the missile to Ukraine instead.
                >Meanwhile, USA, Germany and Netherlands are sending three batteries to Ukraine.
                the missile incident was in November, and these deliveries were only announced last week. And by November, Germany had already delivered IRIS-T, long before either USA or Netherlands had sent sophisticated air defenses.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Glad the Germany send the missiles to Ukrain, and I'm glad Germany will send another battery to Ukraine. See? Everything's gonna be OK, just stop running Europe like a headless chicken and do what Poland said.
                >IRIS-T
                but whatabout this and that irrelevant shit?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Glad the Germany send the missiles to Ukrain, and I'm glad Germany will send another battery to Ukraine.
                Germany will station one battery in Poland, and will donate one battery to Ukraine.
                another German Patriot battery has already been stationed in Slovakia for months. Somehow Slovaks and Germans managed to do this without causing a diplomatic shitshow, I wonder why.
                >just stop running Europe like a headless chicken and do what Poland said
                Germany is not "running like a headless chicken", and not shittalking its allies like Poland is doing. Stop projecting.
                >>IRIS-T
                >but whatabout this and that irrelevant shit?
                unlike a few dysfunctional MANPADS and some unprofessional press statement, the first western air defense system is not irrelevant at all.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe because setting up patriots in ukraine makes more sense than in Poland? The infamous rocket fell down something like 2 kilometers from the border. There was no way to intercept it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, the motivation was clearly to give Germany bad press, because Poland knew Germany wasn't going to do this. Germany offered to station a Patriot battery in Poland (which is happening now btw). It didn't offer to donate a Patriot battery to Ukraine.
                Poland is consistently hostile towards Germany and uses every opportunity to portray Germany in a bad light, even if Germany offers Poland help, like shown by that incident.
                It's the same now again with Leopard 2 deliveries. Poland acts like they are so determined to deliver them to Ukraine, but instead of actually asking Germany for an export license, they go to the press and say they'll do it whether Germany gives permission or not. If you don't see the motivation behind that, you're blind.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Man, we look positively machiavellian and almost gnomish. Its actually flattering that You think we are capable of such underhand 5D chess moves. Now, where are my reparashuns at? Ive read that Berlin City Council voted that every Pole is to be handed 5 million Euro and a Sibel Kekili tier Türkler gf.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Sibel Kekili tier Türkler gf
                >a literal whore
                At least you're realistic with your expectations

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All women are that and to quote popular Polish proverb, its better to share cake with your pals, that eat shit alone. Just being pragmatic bro.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NTA, but we haven't turned down the Patriots. They gonna stay in Poland, under Polish command.
              Meanwhile, USA, Germany and Netherlands are sending three batteries to Ukraine. Despite German govt. December stance. Weird, huh?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Actually remarkable how shameless and spineless you people are.
              If you look at the dispersion of a ~~*certain group of people*~~ before WW2 it starts to make sense, anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bitchslap in 3..2..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Polish prime minister has said
      Stopped reading there.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good, so calling the bluff worked.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >to make Germany look bad
    germany already does that by itself

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how so? By being the third biggest donor to Ukraine? Or are we not lying and talking enough shit about our "allies" like Poland is doing?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        third biggest maybe counting in financial/humanitarian aid, or mincing together planned and realized military aid thanks to all these 'we will deliver this by 2025' incidents or by straight up stretching its definition. In terms of military aid delivered you're high but no way at the third place, and thats while being perfectly safe, rich country that contributed significantly to the war even happening in the first place.

        Oh, I guess you also kinda fucked your PR by all that early whinning that sending weapons bad and btw war totally won't happen, and ppl rarely update their opinions properly.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >third biggest maybe counting in financial/humanitarian aid
          pretty sure Germany is second if we count like that and include transfers via the EU.
          >or mincing together planned and realized military aid thanks to all these 'we will deliver this by 2025' incidents
          yes, and? do you expect all active army stocks to be sent straight away? you probably do, and afterwards you'd complain about German army readyness.
          >contributed significantly to the war even happening in the first place
          straight up lie, have a nice day. Nobody except Putin started this war and other countries like Italy and yes, even heckin based Poland took Russian energy, in relation to their economy they actually imported more, but nobody ever mentions that. Plus Germany completely got rid of Russian energy.
          >btw war totally won't happen
          Germany never said that, that was French intelligence.

          as usual, post full of lies and misinformation. now go on and call me Putin supporter or sth, that's usually the next step.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if we count like that and include transfers via the EU
            pffffthhahahaaha, it's the ultimate cope.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              sure, billions of aid for food, fuel, everything are totally irrelevant in times of war.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                when zelensky has said he needs vehicles and ammo? yes? including the eu share is fucking hilarious.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget the Wagner training facility in Mulino by Rheinmetall AG (via "Garnizon" proxy company).

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a combined weight of roughly ~three tonnes what did this amount to?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's just a small part of manifesto
                >In b4 merely pretendong

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was genuinely interested but to lazy to translate it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gooby pls

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You cant win a war with food

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even Yale research paper into the effect sanctions had on Russia states Germany were being slow in getting off the energy tit of Russia, despite claiming it was a transitionary energy source to green (because nuclear scary). So don't try and blame this on the rest of Europe when Germany was one of the main reasons Russia thought they could pull this off. This isn't completely Scholz's fault; Merkel bowed to Putin. Remember when Putin brought a huge dog to a meeting with Merkel who is deathly afraid of dogs and she didn't go
            >Fuck off that dog or I ain't talking to you

            Ukraine doesn't particularly care about monetary support or theoretical monetary support. It needs hard military donations. Something Germany is relucant to do. You cannot deny this (I joke - you will deny it, there is a weird German defence force on PrepHole that will defend everything Germany does even when evidence is flopped in front of you, usually along the lines of 'nah that isn't what Scholz said because he didn't say it exactly, what's PR speak????' or 'well that source is fake/made up/not good enough') so I never understand this
            >Well we donated money via the EU so we're helping!
            Stance.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Germany were being slow in getting off the energy tit of Russia
              yes? that's not the same as being responsible for the war, you fucking retard. and I also like how you keep ignoring all the other countries who imported Russian energy.
              >Ukraine doesn't particularly care about monetary support
              sure, you don't need money to wage a war. what kind of fantasy land are you living in?
              >It needs hard military donations. Something Germany is relucant to do.
              yes, that's a fair criticism. what's not a fair criticism is lying about how Germany supposedly blocks Poland from delivering tanks, which never happened, and is nothing but another cheap PR shot by Poland at Germany.
              >>Well we donated money via the EU so we're helping!
              that is literally helping, and you're a retard if you deny it.

              anyway fuck you gays, you'll always find a way to seethe about Germany, even when the tank deliveries will most likely be announced tomorrow you'll find some way to turn this into Germany being le bad.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The solution is very simple. Send 1500 Abrams. Let’s see the masters of logistics in action. They could already be on Poland, with repair facilities up and running.
              Where are the tanks, mr. president?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >yes, and? do you expect all active army stocks to be sent straight away? you probably do, and afterwards you'd complain about German army readyness
            I do not expect that much, but honestly you could do even that in your situation. That literally wouldn't at all compromise your safety, as no country you border with can seriously consider attacking you.
            >straight up lie, have a nice day. Nobody except Putin started this war and other countries like Italy and yes, even heckin based Poland took Russian energy, in relation to their economy they actually imported more, but nobody ever mentions that. Plus Germany completely got rid of Russian energy.
            nice try, but while you're right Germany isn't the only one guilty, no other western country pursued deepening its economical relations with Russia as openly, with large infrastructure projects. Poland even pursued lessening it with baltic pipe. And besides, thats only the economical facet. What about circumventing post-2014 sanctions on Russia, because muh Putin said it will be used for civilians?
            >Germany never said that, that was French intelligence
            pls, your intelligence chef literally got caught in the middle of the war when it started, had to run away by car in panic

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    All you have to do is send your tanks now Hans

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it most likely will be announced at the Ramstein meeting tomorrow. But Polish politicians just can't help to engage in Twitter diplomacy and shittalk their allies. If Poland was so desperate about the deliveries, they would have already requested the export license. But obviously what's more important to them than helping Ukraine is being butthurt at and lying about Germany.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ah the germ copes,kek you are lucky to share a continent with Russia or you would be the new joke nation of the modern Europe.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nice how you got zero factual counterarguments because you know I'm right. kys PiSsfagfot.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    export licenses for weapons are standard practice btw and are nothing special to Germany, which you would know if you actually cared about miltary matters.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Send 1500 Abrams, mr president. Freedom wills it!

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The German government is doing more damage to German arms industry, than the RAF did.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Go help US exports by sending US tanks. Or bong exports by sending more CR2s. Dab on europoors with your superior equipment and logistics. Show the world how great you are. Everybody will buy Abrams and Bradleys after you equip the ukrainian army.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Mandic
  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why has it taken so long for poland to send the PT-91? It's not like Russia would attack poland anyway due to NATO and other bases. Poland can take their time to wait for K2 and abrams anyway even if it takes a few years.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >its not like Russia would do something absolutely retarded

      • 2 weeks ago
        T-I-G-E-R-S

        Anon, i...

        • 2 weeks ago
          T-I-G-E-R-S

          Meant for

          Why has it taken so long for poland to send the PT-91? It's not like Russia would attack poland anyway due to NATO and other bases. Poland can take their time to wait for K2 and abrams anyway even if it takes a few years.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh, i thought poland still had old USSR era stuff left.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              there should be still around 100 t72s (but those are in need of refurbishment and modernization, which maybe finished meantime - but if not and those leftover unmodernized t72 will be sent it means Ukr is desperate)
              and 200 pt91s but those are in line duty at the moment and slowly are replaced by tanks from Korea...

              there is still lots of soviet era still left - few hundred pieces of self propelled artillery, hundreds of bmps, some migs, hinds, some leftover AA systems...

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes, few dozens were sent long ago, thats public knowledge, he was rather clearly talking about the remaining ~200 that Poland still got.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    56821080

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poland annexes Belarus when

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >some tweet about some reveal sometime in the near future
    >shortened link only leads to govt website main page
    what did they mean by this

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Poland finally does something reasonable and based on the international stage, after years of embarassments and cuckoldry
    >The entire Europe cheers, it feels good to be a polack for a moment
    >But wait, there are two nations seething over it
    >Russia, that's obvious, and...
    >Germany?
    Can any german explain the seething to me? I legit don't get why do i see germans complaining about sending weapons to ukies more than any other nation, maybe except serbs but who cares about serbs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See

      That’s not the point. The point is that the US wants to fill the gaps in the european depots with their tanks they don’t have production facilities for anymore and gaining political leverage rather than burning them in the steppes. The Europeans don’t want to empty their depots and be totally reliant on US goodwill because Leo2 production cannot fill the holes fast enough. Poland being the exception because of elections recent tank orders and general lust for flinging shit at Germany.

      No it doesn’t. US strategic reserves are bigger and there are already enough Abrams in european depots to serve all of Ukraines needs. There is enough service infrastructure for them in Germany and if you claim the US would be incapable of building service infrastructure in Poland, you are dilusional.
      It’s a game of chicken. If Leos are sent, the US gets to replace the stocks for political gain. If Abrams are sent, the US has less ability to use their reserve to buy influence while Germany can still use Leo production to get that influence or at least keep US influence in Europe down.
      This has nothing to do with military practicality. It’s long term power politics.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germany is not seething about Poland sending weapons to Ukraine. Those of us who understand what's going on are seething at Poland because Poland uses every opportunity to act hostile towards Germany and portray us badly on the international stage, I explained it extensively here

      >but whatabout this and that irrelevant shit?
      at least you don't try to deny the sneaky bullshit the Polish government is pulling, fair enough.

      [...]
      >we haven't turned down the Patriots.
      Germany offered a German army patriot unit to be deployed to Poland after the missile incident to protect Poland. Instead of saying, "yes, thanks", Poland started seething at Germany and saying bad bad Germany should send the missile to Ukraine instead.
      >Meanwhile, USA, Germany and Netherlands are sending three batteries to Ukraine.
      the missile incident was in November, and these deliveries were only announced last week. And by November, Germany had already delivered IRIS-T, long before either USA or Netherlands had sent sophisticated air defenses.

      and here

      https://i.imgur.com/Ca1b7u8.png

      Man, we look positively machiavellian and almost gnomish. Its actually flattering that You think we are capable of such underhand 5D chess moves. Now, where are my reparashuns at? Ive read that Berlin City Council voted that every Pole is to be handed 5 million Euro and a Sibel Kekili tier Türkler gf.

      those are just 2 examples of your government's obvious anti-German position.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Poland uses every opportunity to act hostile towards Germany
        Most of us find it quite retarded if that makes you feel better anon, but
        >Poland uses every opportunity to act hostile towards Germany and portray us badly on the international stage
        There is much less hostility in it that you think there is. Granted, war reparations are a cheap appeal to national pride to gain electorate, but other things happen without a single thought given about how it portrays you guys
        >Getting tanks from Korea is better deal because koreans will give us manufacturing rights, while germans would never do it
        >With every dead vatnig we can be safer, this is literally our only existentional threat and it's wise to do anything to stop it before it's our turn to deal with it
        >Nord Stream 2, don't really need to explain this
        >Keeping good relations Ukraine as a neighbourgh, especially as an EU member, especially as a stable, perhaps someday even kinda wealthy nation, will be extremally benefitial for our economy
        >Building a nuclear power plant with asians/americans instead of germans is focused on gaining experienced engineers for further plants
        The list goes on. Poland (at least recently) does mostly things that are good for Poland, and Germany gets shit on because of some bad decisions made in the last few years

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Most of us find it quite retarded if that makes you feel better anon, but
          I don't think so. PiS was elected democratically after all, and most Poles online follow that rethoric too. Appreciate your comment tho.
          >Getting tanks from Korea is better deal because koreans will give us manufacturing rights,
          sure. Nobody here really cares about this except KMW/Rheinmetall who hoped to sell their own products.
          >while germans would never do it
          that's not true. Leopard 2 hulls are produced in Greece and Rheinmetall is building a factory and doing tech transfer in Hungary, UK, Australia for Lynx and Boxer. Poland didn't even ask.
          >With every dead vatnig we can be safer, this is literally our only existentional threat and it's wise to do anything to stop it before it's our turn to deal with it
          sure. Nobody in Germany complains about Polish support for Ukraine (except some fringe retards nobody cares about)
          >Nord Stream 2, don't really need to explain this
          sure. That said Poland bought Russian gas and oil before the war too, so... Germany just wanted cheap gas, while in Poland it's often portrayed as if this was some sort of Molotov-Ribbentrop 2.0
          >Keeping good relations Ukraine as a neighbourgh, especially as an EU member, especially as a stable, perhaps someday even kinda wealthy nation, will be extremally benefitial for our economy
          sure. Nobody here is complaining about that.
          >Building a nuclear power plant with asians/americans instead of germans is focused on gaining experienced engineers for further plants
          Germany probably doesn't even have the capability anymore. French do, and you should've asked them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >examples of your government's
        this guy is not in the government - and literally left hospital few days ago

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he's the leader of the ruling party and obviously does have influence on the government.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That guy IS the government.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shut up you germans are gays. all the non pussy germans died on the eastern front

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wow, big strong bully poland is being so cruel to little poor germany.
        if only there was a way out of this, like sending a couple of your tanks that will NEVER participate in an actual conflict otherwise.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >implying this would ever stop PIS from screeching muh ebil Niemiecki every day
          Don’t get me wrong I want Germany to deliver tanks and allow your government to do so, but that won’t stop your government crying about muh germs every time something goes wrong, like with the corru- I mean lax environment standards of the saltwater dumped in the Oder

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >without tanks: screeching with a valid point
            >with tanks: screeching without a valid point
            also
            >like with the corru- I mean lax environment standards of the saltwater dumped in the Oder
            don't get me wrong, i know you will always screech about dumb poolaks, whether pis is in power or not. it was going on before pis, and in general west eu screeching about east eu screeching has been going on since forever (who will block romania's accession to schengen next? eu federalization project, right? lol), along with the >italy >white type of shit.

            just remember the 5000 helmets will stick with you literally forever.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Project harder bro, unlike the other guys I went out of my way to write “your government” instead of just “poles” because I truly only have a problem with pis Fagotts, but I am not sure if something similar applies to you.
              But yeah the helmet thing was bs and I hope it sticks, I hope no one will forget what kind of embarrassment that woman was, I was so happy when she left.
              Also weird Argument about Italy out of nowhere, makes you look kinda mindbroken…

  23. 2 weeks ago
    T-I-G-E-R-S

    It seems today's conference was nothingburger, and we have to wait until tomorrow's Ramstein meeting. Fucking PR stunt.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Germany proposes replenishing other nations sending Soviet gear to Ukraine with German equipment
    >works out fine with Czechia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece, no complaints
    >Poland makes an international shitshow because they didn't get the newest Leopard 2A7+ immediately
    >Germany offers to station its own Patriot unit in Poland after a missile killed two Poles
    >Polish government makes an international shitshow and accuses Germany for not sending the unit to Ukraine
    >countries are considering sending western MBTs to Ukraine
    >instead of actually asking Germany for the export license, the Polish government makes another international shitshow and says they'll send them with or without license
    >...
    >HURR DURR WHY ARE YOU SEETHING AT POLAND???

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germans are just so easy to bully. Denazification came at the cost of deep shaming the people to the point of selfish pacifism.
      The Poles do it because they know the Germs will fold.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the Poles do it because they're butthurt gays who need an enemey image to feel good about themselves. And because low IQ foreigners who don't read up on the actual issues believe their bullshit, see all the retards here on PrepHole.

        • 2 weeks ago
          T-I-G-E-R-S

          >Implying

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The Poles do it because they know the Germs will fold
        How's the whole reparations thing coming along

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >because they didn't get the newest Leopard 2A7+ immediately
      it was not really not really this way:
      it was proposed because Germany said they cannot send 70 leopards in foreseeable future and Poland will have to wait 5 years in line while older versions are rebuilt from disassembled units - our govt proposed that instead of waiting for old versions we can take current one that is readily available... luckily muricans stepped in and offered to sell us 100 used abrams tanks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do they care? They're divesting from Leopard 2's anyway and going with M1s and K2s, the first of which they can get quickly to offset loses and the latter through traditional procurement

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can they "lease" them?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and it's even an incomplete list. add 600 new brimstomne missiles and other anti armor weapons.

    westriods are really panicking about the spring offensive. when they're squirming like worms now imagine how they will be in a month. especially when they can't get anything into ukraine anymore and realize that they have lost.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You turd-worlders really don't understand us do you? If the West were panicking, our standard response would be to cut our losses and bail, not to double down (unlike a certain Monke). The fact that aid is increasing means that, as far as NATO intelligence is concerned, Ukraine has a good chance of winning if given those supplies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This.

        The US has left so many allies out to dry… it’s shameful. That we’re still arming Ukraine is a testament to how well the Ukies are doing.

        That and the Budapest accords.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      These are all offensive weapons

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So Poland is finally going to actually do something instead of spending all their time bitching about Germany?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They haven't announced anything concrete yet. We'll probably know tomorrow after Ramstein if it was real or just bluster

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no they will continue to bitch about germany and the eu cause they are the ones paying for all this stuff kek. its their business model

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do something? Poland is the only consistent source of heavy vehicles and parts for Ukraine so far, one 3rd of Polish stock went there, retard-o. And then there's the migs and the parts to aircraft. Most of this is under secrecy but only formally so.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Makes sense really.
    >poland has been undertaking a big modernization program for a bit now
    >have a bunch of old soviet shit that just showed itself getting obliterated by western gear for the gorillionth time getting mothballed
    >have a bunch of sweet deals with south korea for all sorts of goodies and to even establish domestic production
    Poland makes room for more modern gear actually worth something and Ukraine gets more shit to use against vatniks, win win either way.

    [...]

    Germans have been more than capable of making themselves look like clowns since the Wall fell anon.
    >need we remind them of the bundeswehr training brooms

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    relax hans, it's just pressure because you are addicted to russian gas, moron

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germany hasn't bought Russian gas in months you cocksucking retarded gay.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        but maybe (just try consider this) they are still in withdrawal phase and they want their cheap gas back ASAP?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          take your meds

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://tass.com/economy/1562249

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >tass
              lmao next time just post pravda or better visengrad 24

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok, real question here.

    if ukranian finally lose the war(they go full
    nationalistic total war death cult retardation)for whatever reason,wouldnt that leave poland with its pants down having send a lot of it military to ukrain?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >(they go full nationalistic total war death cult retardation)

      i was refering to russia btw

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if ukranian finally lose the war
      it's not in the cards whatsoever.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For Ukraine to actually lose the war, Russia would have to have capability to take over all of Ukraine + crush the massive insurgency movement coming from occupation. And that's not even taking into account the much more direct actions that countries like Poland would absolutely go for if things got that dire somehow.
      So basically there is absolutely no way for Russia to win anymore. It is only a question about how hard Russia will lose.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man, things must be going really badly for the Ukrops ..

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >excluding the T-72, Poland currently has 4 types of tanks in 13 variants operational or on order. And currently has 4 variants of 2 different types on order with 5 different upgrade programs currently underway.
    Poles are legitimately retarded aren't they?

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    post guns

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        noguns gay

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why dont they just send a fleet of F35s? Just include the pilots on accident.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    UK-Poland-Ukraine axis gets more real every day.
    German-rape-vatniks on suicide watch.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rest of t72's and bwp-1, anounced by MOD 3h ago.
    https://defence24.pl/wojna-na-ukrainie-raport-specjalny-defence24/blaszczak-przekazemy-ukrainie-czolgi-t-72-oraz-bojowe-wozy-piechoty

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      40 t72s (dont event state if modernized with thermal and night vision as previous batches) and 100 bmps...
      a little underwhelming - i was hoping for next batch of pt91s...

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