Poland blocks PzH 2000 repair hubs unless they get trade secrets

Has Poland lied about their willingness to help Ukraine? PiS tries to blackmail Germany and KMW into giving them trade secrets.
Does Poland need those secrets to build proper howitzer barrels?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Brief reminder about the state of polish produced barrels

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Krab went snibbety snab :DDD

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Funny, since this is a rheinmetall produced barrel

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Also who the fuck knows, maybe they shot 5k shells at full charge from it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          A normal barrel needs replacement after 1500 rounds. If you keep firing it, your accuracy will be absolute shite. It's unfathomable that Ukrainians would keep shooting a barrel that's inaccurate, and that for more than double its lifetime

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >your accuracy will be absolute shite
            does it matter if you use smart ammunition that self corrects during flight?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Krabs has auto adjustments system that take into consideration barrel deformity.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Krabs don't use Rheinmetall produced barrels since 2019 anymore. Unless Poland has supplied Ukraine with 3 year old, used and worn barrels, those aren't from Rheinmetall. And if that's indeed the case, it's no surprise it exploded - barrels are only good for ~1500 rounds

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They were given howitzers from active duty polish stock. Maybe those vehicles weren't trained on intensively, maybe there was a stock of rheinmetall produced barrels. You can't possibly exclude that. 3 years is not much in terms of mitary, given that rus use tanks produced 60 years ago

          A normal barrel needs replacement after 1500 rounds. If you keep firing it, your accuracy will be absolute shite. It's unfathomable that Ukrainians would keep shooting a barrel that's inaccurate, and that for more than double its lifetime

          Intensity of use is also important. Overheating the barrel will introduce material stress. they already wrecked one krab with blowback, going heavily against allowed firing rate.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Krab barrel explodes
            >PzH 2000 barrel doesn't
            >CAESAR barrel doesn't
            >DANA barrel doesn't
            >Bohdana barrel doesn't
            >Zusana barrel doesn't
            >M109 barrel doesn't
            It's pretty obvious that poles fucked up up building their own barrels

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They were given howitzers from active duty polish stock. Maybe those vehicles weren't trained on intensively, maybe there was a stock of rheinmetall produced barrels. You can't possibly exclude that. 3 years is not much in terms of mitary, given that rus use tanks produced 60 years ago
            It's been there for HALF A YEAR
            Remember when poles made fun of the 100 shots per day limit? How thefuck would itstill have its original barrelwith a 1500 round barrel life with training ammo and a lot less with long range shots ukranians primarily used on SPG?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No they aren't, stop coping polak.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        peak cope

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        COPE moron
        COPE AND SEETHE

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >, since this is a rheinmetall produced barrel
        Can't be unless it either wasn't used by ukrabians until like 2 weeks ago or shot 20.000 shots without a barrel change, which woukd be quite impressive since even training rounds only get you a barrel life of about 1.5k

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >being on PrepHole
      >not understanding that literally every cannon barrel breaks eventually after thousands of fires
      embarrassing,
      >inb4 pretending to be retarded

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Pzh2000
        >System estimates barrel tear, tells you to switch it or suffer accuracy issues and possible critical failure further out
        >Germany services it no problem
        >Wow German system suck
        >Krab has none of it
        >Barrel doesn't get serviced because ???
        >Dangerous barrel failure happens

        Krabs has auto adjustments system that take into consideration barrel deformity.

        First I have heard of a system that could both measure irregularities within barrel and then compensate them, but also not tell anyone not to fire because the barrel is about to break.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Poles display almost russian levels of mental gymnastics and dishonesty when it comes to making germans look bad. When a german system gives maintenance warnings after intensive use, they declare it proof of low reliability. When a polish system instead fails catastrophically, they declare it normal due to wear and tear.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjTgJ3OjM_6AhWHuIsKHQDzA5YQFnoECA8QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sto.nato.int%2Fpublications%2FSTO%2520Meeting%2520Proceedings%2FRTO-MP-AVT-109%2FMP-AVT-109-16.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0zEHC0Mkpf0hDb0PnbliVS

          >5.0 MANAGING WEAR AND EROSION IN GUN BARRELS
          >Although wear and erosion is not a desirable phenomenon, the fact is that it initiates with the very first round that is fired from a large caliber Gun Barrel; further, it continues progressively to the end of the Barrel’s useful life. Despite that inevitability, the effects of wear and erosion are often not intolerable until many rounds are fired (except in extremely high-performance Guns), and in many cases steps can be taken to compensate for its presence.

          Literally every modern howitzer pzh2k included has barrel degradation compensation systems you fucking retard.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Read further. It talks about reducing the damage to the barrel, not about somehow shooting with a deformed barrel, which is the extremely retarded part.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You and me know perfectly well how ukrainians use those howitzers. They blew up one of the crabs cause they loaded the ammo too fast. Also claiming that barrel degradation doesn't happen in pzh2k is silly. It happens in literally every howitzer since the first shot.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody also claimed than pzh2000 doesn't degrade, the claim was literally that system somehow told everyone to replace the barrel and the barrel got magically replaced. At least one of these steps didn't happed with the Krab.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                First of all pzh2k has auto loader and system that counts shots, if you exceed your quota of shots, your angry office clip pic related tells you to fuck off and turns off your pzh in the middle of counter battery fire. When auto loader breaks, your pzh is also useless. In crab there is no autoloader so if your sasha has ADD you can technically load and fire as soon as he puts next shell. Also Ukrainians tend to ignore warnings or do some stupid shit like dismantling fire extinguishing systems in their tanks.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if you exceed your quota of shots, your angry office clip pic related tells you to fuck off and turns off your pzh in the middle of counter battery fire.
                And you know this... how?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                bro you don't need an autoloader to count shots, since someone has to press the trigger anyway. In Pzh2000 you also don't autoload the propellant amount which is an important variable, but it somehow knows when the barrel is getting fucked.
                >and turns off your pzh in the middle of counter battery fire.
                Lol massive bullshit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You have no idea what you are talking about.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PISS poland SUPPORTS RAPERUSSIA??

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      PiS supports themselves first, and probably Poland last.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Poland sides with whoever promises them more free shit. Hitler was right about them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        so far they haven't received anything for free, mr hernandez

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's why they're acting up. Their gypsy sense is telling them that if they make enough noise right now then somebody will give them free shit just to shut them up.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >they're doing anything to get free shit despite getting no free shit and this is why they're bad
            are you even trying you stupid Hispanic?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tecsas smith from joe oblast, I am demoralized and HATO should give Putin Ukraine for birthday

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck POOland

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >this thread again

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      wdym, has this been posted here already?

      Yay, PiS fucks up our reputation once again
      t.Pole

      Yeah man, really sorry that you have to live under those fuckers. I just hope you can get rid of them soon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only things poles are superior at is cleaning toilets

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yay, PiS fucks up our reputation once again
    t.Pole

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Around Polacks
    >never relax.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Poland thought they could get stuff for free.

    Of course that isn't happened.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ESL fuck off

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop fucking around Poland!

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >war bad, russia good
    >war expensive for federal government
    >let's outsource repair job to some 2nd world shithole
    >oh no, they refused our offer
    >what do now

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, Germany wants its own people to do it.
      Poland demanded their firms do it and they get free technology.

      What the fuck is wrong with you?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >people just now realising all slav countries are the same self-centered corrupted garbage shitholes
        lol
        lmao
        it's russias all the way down
        ukraine, poland, czechs, slovaks whatever
        t. knower

        dumb ESL poster

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uhhh Polebros? Care to explain? I thought you would do ANYTHING so save the heckin based Ukraine for no gain for you at all.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I thought you would do ANYTHING so save the heckin based Ukraine for no gain for you at all.
      > for no gain for you at all.
      mega kek

      >nordstream 1/2 fubar (as we wanted)
      >baltic pipe built (as we wanted)
      >ukraine forever locked into our sphere of influence (as we wanted)
      >ukraine completely obliterated economy wise and unable to compete in the next 50 years (as we wanted)
      >source of 20+ million cheap labourers right across the border (as we wanted)
      >EU seething about muh migrunts and lbgtq put on backburner for the next few years (as we wanted)
      >Russia's international reputation gone (as we wanted)
      >Orlen planning to takeover oil refinery in Germany that supplies 1/3rd of the country for basically scraps because of German ineptitude (not planned, happy coincidence)

      If it wasn't for the fact that it's kind of a messy situation regarding energy prices I would even be inclined to believe that Vladimir Putin is just nom de guerre of Włodzimierz Putkowski who swore eternal loyalty to Rzeczpospolita while kissing the flag one last time in January 2022.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        forever locked into the EU's sphere of influence

        FTFY. Poland doesn't have an SOI outside of PiS delusions.

        completely obliterated economy wise and unable to compete in the next 50 years (as we wanted)

        LMAO, Marshall plan 2.0 gonna change that a lot quicker than you think.

        >>EU seething about muh migrunts and lbgtq put on backburner for the next few years

        LMAO, full-on projection, given it's the poolacks who are ever seething and bitching about it.

        planning to takeover oil refinery in Germany that supplies 1/3rd of the country for basically scraps because of German ineptitude

        Outright wishful thinking, and a failure to understand economics.

        2/10, now go back to cleaning those toilets lest you lose them EU gibs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based Poles winning the geopolitical battle

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shut the fuck up Germ subhuman you have sent like 5 guns who broke after a month.Poland has sent dozens and more tanks than your muslim shithole will ever operate.
    Cope ya kraut cuck,i hope you fucking freeze.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most reasonable pole.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >5 guns
      7 (it's still a sick joke)
      >i hope you fucking freeze
      would be nice if that big city voting cattle who voted those idiots finally face harsh consequences

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    we can all understand the need for Poland to know all g*rmoid military tech

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vatnik shilling is on happening mode. They must be really salty about that grenade taking their whole squad, or something really juicy just went down.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking have a nice day you cringe piece of shit, not everything is a vatnik. Go work for TMZ if you want to use the word juicy in regular dialogue

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This shit is why Ukraine and American must be BFFs. Euros can’t do anything right.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Polacks are a fake moron "nation" made up by anglos to carve up their enemies. They were better off under Prussian and Tzarist guidance.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wdym, has this been posted here already?

    Yes you moronfagot and its always
    ends in pol germ bickering since the only source we have about this is the german rag

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >These threads.
      It's because of Monke's birthday?

      That article is only from 14:00 today. There haven't been any posts about this yet.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        stop lying cunt

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's a slightly different matter though. It's also about Poland blocking repair hubs, but the part about trade secrets and new hubs in Slovakia is new

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are overly sensitive

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have seen the exact same topic weeks ago.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          see

          That's a slightly different matter though. It's also about Poland blocking repair hubs, but the part about trade secrets and new hubs in Slovakia is new

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >These threads.
    It's because of Monke's birthday?

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Poland blocks PzH 2000 repair hubs unless they get trade secrets
    i like it. Germany should join greater Poland and then fucking nuke the Washington to prove our tiny polish dicks are bigger than morons over there.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a german, I am really please to see our government still has some balls left and doesn't just cuck to poland in this matter like it always does. Of course it could still do better by popularizing this far and wide and showing the poles off for the backstabbing cuntholes they are, but hey it's something.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      As a German you're a fool since the object of the war is defending Europe (Germans live there) from Russia without losing NATO (including German) troops.

      Of course you're a vatnik (or Ossi traitor scum) since even Germans are capable of logic and reason, traits they inherited recently from their Turkish bull fathers.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Implying implications
        I am very pleased to see german weapons kill r*ssians at ukrainian hands. I am just also wary of the polish threat to germany because poland hates us, entirely independently of the ukraine business.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Have you seen that footage of Gepard shooting at russians?
          https://twitter.com/gepardtatze/status/1578045963666690049
          They don't show the Gepard, only the impacts, but @gepardtatze has basically confirmed it

          Question: why would those maintenance hubs be situated in Poland, and uniquely for PzH 2000?

          Poland has the best logistics and support routes into Ukraine

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > sends hopes and prayers in first days
          > secretly hopes Ukraine won’t fight
          > finances the enemy for a decade
          > calls Eastern Europeans stuck in the past for calling Russia a threat

          Why do the Poles and the rest of central/Eastern Europe persecute the German race so?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and the rest of central/Eastern Europe
            Yeah no. The rest of them has a reasonable view of german politics (which is lacking towards eastern europe I admit.) Poland hates us with a burning passion and has since well before the ukraine war. They blame us for everything from sugar shortages to dead rivers (even if they are upstream of germany lol).

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Poland hates us with a burning passion and has since well before the ukraine war

              well since Poland was right on this one, they have bragging right for now.

              >They blame us for everything from sugar shortages to dead rivers (even if they are upstream of germany lol).
              You have it wrong though. Germany accused Poland of dumping lethal chemicals into the river and it turned out to be a mix of natural causes and some human actions.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Germany accused Poland of dumping lethal chemicals
                Nonsense. Germany accused them of nothing before the final examination. (No, releasing preliminary results under the disclaimer that they are preliminary does not constitute an accusation.) And the examination determined that it was because of algae grown thanks to increased saline content... because poland dumped those in the river. Of course poland refuses to find out who did that. "Some human action" indeed.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And the examination determined that it was because of algae grown thanks to increased saline content... because poland dumped those in the river. Of course poland refuses to find out who did that. "Some human action" indeed.
                So, you're accusing them of spilling something into the water?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What is the alternative? The salt just fell from the heavens? Probably dumped by some german cargo plane, huh?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who knows, maybe it was Germany

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you are wrong. The first accusation was mercury poising which blew this stuff into international scandal.

                >saline
                due to normal industry activity. The reason was this plus low water level due to high temperatures. But nothing criminal happened

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The first accusation was mercury poising
                No you retard. A german lab found mercury, explicitly stated that it was a preliminary and singular result to be examined further. The german government never mentioned it. If people are too dumb to understand the nature of preliminary results it's not germanys fault.
                >due to normal industry activity
                "Normal" by polish standards apparently. Funny how that kind of algae bloom doesn't happen elsewhere, independently of water levels or temperature.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >A german lab found mercury, explicitly stated that it was a preliminary and singular result to be examined further.

                So you proved my point. First Germany implied something, blew this into international scandal, was proven wrong and acted like nothing happend

                Same case as OP. You are just lying and accusing others while acting like dindu nuffins morons

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >river gets polluted
                >PiS immediatly blames Germany downstream
                gotta love poo-les

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                why are you so dishonest? I've been watching national polish tv talk about it (yes I'm masochist) and not even they blamed germany for actual poisoning. They did however blame opposition politicians for bringing up the unconfirmed mercury report and using it as evidence of government's ineptitude in protecting environment.
                It was a clusterfuck but not once did I see anyone actually blaming germany.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Polaks lied
    Ukrainians died

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    These watermelon parties are the gift that keep on giving.
    Euros should rape their young women to death and beat their based boys into submission, or some combination thereof.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      When Russia collapses, all Russian sluts will depart to Ukraine and breed.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No one cares Ahmed fuck off.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Does Poland need those secrets to build proper howitzer barrels?

    Of course. They're a highly sophisticated product which appears simple.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Poland already bought technology to produce barrels from rheinmetall.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good for them. EU nations should unite to slay the gopnik subhumans so they can no longer defile my precious PrepHole

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >source: some dude from twitter

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm fanatically pro Ukraine but i kinda wish Putin had succeeded in bribing the DPRK just to get the west off it's ass when it comes to long range artillery instead of just focusing on precision. Also i want to see what a half kiloton of shells in one hour do, is that so much to ask?

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Question: why would those maintenance hubs be situated in Poland, and uniquely for PzH 2000?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The entire ukraine support infrastructure is in poland, it is close, has a long border and is very eager to help ukraine. Unless it involves repairing german weapons it seems.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you seen that footage of Gepard shooting at russians?
        https://twitter.com/gepardtatze/status/1578045963666690049
        They don't show the Gepard, only the impacts, but @gepardtatze has basically confirmed it
        [...]
        Poland has the best logistics and support routes into Ukraine

        Does Poland repair and maintain CEASARs, Danas, HIMARS etc in their territory?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes for HIMARS, M109 aund M777
          https://gagadget.com/en/168873-the-pentagon-in-poland-established-a-center-to-repair-himars-m777s-and-other-weapons-of-the-ukrainian-armed-forces/
          Not disclosed for the others

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well, sucks to be Germany I guess, lol.
            They will have to do some work themselves instead of just dumping it on Poles.

            Are you really surprised. Poles want to do what poles do best: steal shit

            >don't want to take in german vehicles
            >this is stealing

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Germans won't tell Poles how to repair the things they want them to repair
              Any excuse not to help, huh? Fucking Krauts.

              Noone said poles were to repair them you dumb white morons. Germans would have repaired them in poland. Poland spergs out at this and demands to get in on trade secrets to allow us repair the guns we sent ukraine.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why does suddenly logistics matter to Germany so much after they wasted so much time earlier in the war?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Germans would have repaired them in poland

                Germans have very high energy prices so they want to move the repairs somewhere else

                This is the only reason and lying about makes Germany looks even more foolish

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The whole damn issue is that the poles want to do everything and get all the IP, you retarded turbomoron.

              Germany waited for 6 month to deliver anything. now you care about few days for repairs?
              USA is shipping stuff from the other side of the pond and it doesnt matter.

              It's clear that germany doesnt want to bother with repairs because that doesnt bring money so they dont want to use their own factories for it.

              And they found themselves a convenient reason to hide it

              Lying germs

              >Germany waited for 6 month to deliver anything.

              Only one lying is you double retarded turbomoron.

              I don't know why they even speculate and not go straight to Slovakia, we won't care about their secrets since we make Zuzanas and also share a border with Ukraine.

              Shit like that still needs to be negotiated and sorted out beforehand.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cosmo Stephan, is that you?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Well, sucks to be Germany I guess, lol.
              >They will have to do some work themselves instead of just dumping it on Poles.
              Why do poles keep on writing this when Germany wants to do it with its own people and poles try to blackmail them into paying poles to do it and giving them their technology while ukranians die for it?
              Where does this take come from? Saw it like half a dozen times now.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                because they don't trust selfish krautoids, a country known to be the very worst cancer of europe?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Danas
          Sorry, I mean Zuzanas

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Germany waited for 6 month to deliver anything. now you care about few days for repairs?
        USA is shipping stuff from the other side of the pond and it doesnt matter.

        It's clear that germany doesnt want to bother with repairs because that doesnt bring money so they dont want to use their own factories for it.

        And they found themselves a convenient reason to hide it

        Lying germs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why would those maintenance hubs be situated in Poland
      Belarus declined the honor

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because the Ukrainians would sell it all to Israeli arms dealers.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Germany being butthurt about Poland again

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    share the fucking secrets then, what the fuck is the problem i dont understand

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Krauts butthurting and lying vs PiS being germanophobic to the point of absolute retardation.
    Neither of these would surprise me.

    T. Pole

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      post polish sugar, salt and hand

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you really surprised. Poles want to do what poles do best: steal shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Read what you just wrote retard.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know why they even speculate and not go straight to Slovakia, we won't care about their secrets since we make Zuzanas and also share a border with Ukraine.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because Poland makes for a convenient targed, as

      Germany waited for 6 month to deliver anything. now you care about few days for repairs?
      USA is shipping stuff from the other side of the pond and it doesnt matter.

      It's clear that germany doesnt want to bother with repairs because that doesnt bring money so they dont want to use their own factories for it.

      And they found themselves a convenient reason to hide it

      Lying germs

      said.
      The problem is iirc Poland has the only rail station compatible with old soviet gauges Ukraine still uses. That means they'd have to be first transported to Poland either way.

      https://i.imgur.com/joMO2gZ.png

      I think I found the twitter handle of the schizo who keeps making these threads

      Fucking kek, this is exactly his way of typing, time to comb through his history.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The problem is iirc Poland has the only rail station compatible with old soviet gauges Ukraine still uses.
        Our town Čierna nad Tisou is actually the biggest such "harbor" for swapping cargo due to the gauge differences

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          My bad then, I remember hearing about it some time ago, must've mixed up some things.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think I found the twitter handle of the schizo who keeps making these threads

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kek, you got this is the schizo, it's word for word

      [...]

      He even made another thread after that because the other one died when he stopped samefagging

      [...]

      This thread is also made by him look at filename in this thread and

      [...]

      same schizo.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/scQNKcX.png

      Polen bad Deutschland gute

      >pronouns
      >follows Obama
      >follows Biden
      >follows Patton fucking Oswald
      >follows SPD-linked people

      Lmao, uncanny resemblance

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like a typical cuck

    • 2 months ago
      T-I-G-E-R-S

      O kurwa , nailed it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Oeo8mjl.png

      Has Poland lied about their willingness to help Ukraine? PiS tries to blackmail Germany and KMW into giving them trade secrets.
      Does Poland need those secrets to build proper howitzer barrels?

      Quit making shitty threads Stephan.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based. fuck polish scum.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you guys are really on the moron level of seething kek

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    twitter thread is a goldmine of butthurt germoids completely convinced that if it wasn't for germany ukraine would already be under russian control

    did someone forget to tell them the war started in february?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Germany alongside Ukraine and Russia is the biggest loser in this war.

      Countires around the world are starting to realize that Germany isn't that all knowing and should get off their high horse

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >who are you quoting ESL retard?

    • 2 months ago
      /out/ie

      Germany started giving aid to Ukraine from 2014 on.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And to Russia

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another Scholz's attempt to blame everyone but himself

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Polen bad Deutschland gute

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pronouns
      >follows Obama
      >follows Biden
      >follows Patton fucking Oswald
      >follows SPD-linked people

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ummm sweaty panzerhaubitzezezzn kills all russians in a 200 kilometer radius with a single shot good piece of tech please fix poland

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we totally found the schizo making threads with factual information about Polish aid
      >it's a decent looking, theoretical physicists that isn't a chud
      Doesn't look like Pole bros got much out of it.

      • 2 months ago
        Stephan

        Aww thanks
        But that picture is old, by now I look much worse

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ROFL of course pronouns in bio

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pronouns

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Germans won't tell Poles how to repair the things they want them to repair
    Any excuse not to help, huh? Fucking Krauts.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks Stephen, very cool.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Two biggest political parties in Poland are named PISS and POO

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Polish are the morons of Europe. Constantly crying for gibs and thinking so highly of themselves, when in reality they're pure trash.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >set up legal framework for all this
      >be surprised when you get fucked over due to your own incompetence
      Don't hate the player, hate the game.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    even if that's true there are other NATO countries Bordering Ukraine so no big deal really.

    plus why would Poland need PzH2k "trade secrets" (wtf?)
    they will buy Korean howitzers anyway...

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stephan, you should take some meds.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >poles are talking about german posters
    >agian
    obsessed, rent free, cope

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Real talk. How many of Rheinmetall's engineers are Poles?

    I've been given to understand Germany is a favoured destination for polish brain drain because of proximity and wage differential. Manufacturing plants in czechia making queries to group R&D centers in Germany frequently end up talking to someone with Polish surname.

    Not wanting to insult either Poland or Germany btw, genuinely curious. This spat seems extremely petty, whether or not OP is accurate (if it is, it's a point of shame for the pl government because lmao)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >german tanks are polish
      what level of brain damage is this?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's an honest question which I have no idea why you feel need to deliberately misinterpret.
        German companies can and will employ employees of foreign descent. Especially EU nationals.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          this is a d&c thread, act accordingly

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you still delude yourself it's some mythical d&c operation? OP is a buckbroken German that couldn't handle the bantz coming since the start of the war. Literally drove him insane.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              A single (1) german lives rent free in your head. How did they break you this much?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Doesn't need to live rent free in my head if he's in every thread even tangentially mentioning Poland. You can tell by the way he types.
                >How did they break you this much?
                Kek, I'm here to laugh at this retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                surely you have proof for your claims besides twitter screenshots
                also post polish sugar with timestamp

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >proof gets posted
                >refuses to accept it
                I accept your concession.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                where is your proof that some german twitter fag is responsible for these threads? just link it here

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not gonna spoonfeed you, retard. Just scroll up.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                all i see are random twitter screencaps posted by some shizo

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ok Stephan

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's not wrong, You know

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                based

                ok Stephan

                so you have no actual proof then?
                I accept your apology

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody is falling for your falseflagging, Stephan.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post your proof and the madness will end

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post your proof you're not Stephan

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/Cswo6h1.png

                Oh that's how it feels to become a celebrity. Hi PrepHole

                I accept your apology

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You should consider the rope Autismo_Stephan, it's probably for the best.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              nothing mythical about those tbh, russhits would like nothing more than eu and nato to disintegrate into infighting. I have no doubt that whatever people they still can afford to pay - or the ones doing it for free - will resort to this sort of shenanigans

              imo that makes it even more deHispanicable if individual parties try to abuse the crisis to score petty local gains through perfidy. When you face a common enemy you try to be the bigger man ffs and not jab the guy next to you to steal his wallet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are a lot of polish engineers in germany and I could imagine they gravitate towards arms manufacturing more so than germans, but they are still few in comparison.
      That said, there might be two more factors here:
      -A pole might be more likely to be assigned to do communication with eastern europeans for obvious reasons
      -There were a lot of 19th century polish immigrants whose descendants bear polish names but identify as german
      Also, poles in germany are not very responsive to PiSpropaganda about evil germany and not very likely to risk their jobs giving intel to poland unless they considered it important for polish safety, which is really not at stake right now. So I don't think they are a big security risk.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        fair, cheers for the effortpost Anon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >polish immigrants
        1900 are still former east German regions like Sudeten region who have slavic names common from 1700s and 1800s.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Those would have czech sounding names, not polish ones.
          A lof of the polish immigrants were from the area of the german empire, but they were ethnically polish (or from related minorities like kashubians or masurians, who have similar names).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >with Polish surname.
      Sure, immigrants from the 90s. But my name sounds polish too, but my family name givers came in the 1800 into Germany. Than we have german families that came in 1900 with east sounding names like Donbrowski or Borowski.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Demand equipped repair facility for free from Poles
    >Poles ask for details
    >DEM EVIL POLES BE STEALIN OUR TRADE SECRETS

    >Poles predictably refuse your generous offer
    >DEM EVIL POLES BE HATING UKRAINE

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How much EU money does poland get agian? Isnt it the number one negative factor to the EU economy?
      Surely some tank chop shops are a reasonable request in order to safe ukraine.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >How much EU money does poland get agian?
        Negative numbers, Germany is net recipient of EU, not Poland
        >it the number one negative factor to the EU economy?
        No, that's Germany.

        Straight from German minister https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/newsroom/news/170322-bm-faz/288672
        >every euro we pay into the EU budget comes back to us – directly or indirectly – several times over

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >At the other end of the scale, Poland tops the list of net beneficiaries with a deficit of -€11,632 million—more than double that of second-place Hungary. In the wake of the European sovereign debt crisis, Greece and Portugal slide into fourth and fifth place respectively.
          poland zisters, its over

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Give billions to your own companies in foreign countries so they can outcompete local companies
            >Gloat how much money you are giving to other poorer nations
            >Rub your hands as everything you have invested returns several times over and you can propagandize yourself as philanthropist helping them
            Here is how German supermarket chain took major share of Eastern European market, this is what Germans consider EU aid.
            https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jul/02/lidl-1bn-public-development-funding-supermarket-world-bank-eastern-europe

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >He added that the retailer provided a “model that at the time didn’t exist, which was targeting the lower social category, a poorer category, offering products to people who otherwise could not afford them.
              German companies are successful in eastern europe because their investments allow them to provide services local companies could not provide. That's how investment works. Especially in the industrial sector it also creates tons of jobs for the local populace. If there was no western investment, this sector would be weaker, fewer jobs would exist, the entire country would be poorer. That's why EVERY country tries to get all the investments it can get. Only poles are angry, because being reminded that germany has money and they don't hurts their feelings or something. And then they make bullshit arguments about how germany "draws money from poland" even though that money would never have existed without german investments. And if they had gotten other investors, americans or brits or whatever, the money would flow to them. No company invests as a gift and expects nothing in return.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lidl introduced nothing to Poland that wasn't there before, do you think there were no supermarkets here before generous Germans decided to take over the market?
                Most of Polish supermarkets were outcompeted at that time only because Germans had essentially endless funding behind them ($1bn) which allowed them to take over the market while taking massive losses, once that was done and local competition was bankrupt they racked the prices to actually higher than in Germany itself.
                Your lies fall flat kraut because I have seen it happen.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I happen to have been to poland and I did not shop in a german supermarket. Who should by your argumentation all be outcompeted by the poles, now they have racked their prices (which apparently they also did all at the same time because obviously all germans are in a price cartel). Your argument betrays a misunderstanding of market principles and conspiracy theorism against germans.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Biedronka is Portuguese. Shows how oblivious you are.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I guess the portuguese are in on the german price cartel then?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Most of Polish supermarkets were outcompeted
                its getting better now

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Poor deflection, pay for your repair facility if you want to have it, you aren't getting one for free.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Demand equipped repair facility
      That's a lie you retarded cunt.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    first hub then extraterritorial corridor

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    didn't happen & germans deserved it & it will happen again

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    never underestimate a pole's ability to throw everyone under the bus for his own personal gain

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why doesn't Germany cut off all ties to Russia then? Surely it only makes matters worse for Ukraine.

      • 2 months ago
        /out/ie

        What ties are those?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is this supposed to actually mean?
      If Poland can get Orban to kiss kaczynski's ring and forsake Putin that would be an indisputable gain for the EU.
      Or do you think Poland would whore itself to Russia alongside him?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If Poland can get Orban to kiss kaczynski's ring and forsake Putin that would be an indisputable gain for the EU.
        Hahahahahahahaha, Orban will transition to become a femboy trap before he forsakes russia.
        >Or do you think Poland would whore itself to Russia alongside him?
        Probably not, but they're gonna make sure that Hungary doesn't get punished for sucking russian dick. They've already vowed to fight the EU stripping Hungary of its EU money, because, lets be honest, that could also be used against them. It shows that they're willing to support Ukraine when its easy, but are also willing to empower and help people that literally called their election victory a victory against Zelensky when their own money is threatened.

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >germany send 7 guns
    >guns break down
    >germany doesn't want to send singular digit of ordnance back to germany for repairs because ??
    >put the onus on poland, not an operator of phz2000 to begin with
    >poland obviously tells you to piss off with an offer it knows you won't accept
    >poland bad

    Fuck off, this is not weapons, this is pure politics and yet another dumbass shit made up by the politicians to score other guy bad points with their electorate and put the other one internationally. We do not need a thread up every time a country x cries that country y hurt its feelings.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      At 4,8% unemployment rate we don't have the right manpower to spare.
      And with the current economic clusterfuck govt might not be willing to gift an European powerhouse resources, that better will be spent elsewhere.

      https://portalmilitarny.pl/w-celowniku/musimy-tworzyc-cos-co-bedzie-skuteczne-jutro-wywiad-z-sebastianem-chwalkiem-prezesem-zarzadu-pgz-s-a/

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >germany doesn't want to send singular digit of ordnance back to germany for repairs because ??
      Because it's slower which is why Pzh2000 got serviced, but later. Also letting some Germans use your rail and setup their own repair depot is hardly anything compared to paying Americans to put a military base there.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >slower
        Anon please tell me you're joking. Europe isn't the states, the railway exists and it works. It would take only a COUPLE HOURS more to ship that shit over to where it came from and where tooling exists to service it and people trained on it to do it
        versus
        political diddling to setup a whole new base from the ground, moving tools and arranging personell up to save like a fucking single days worth (cumulative) of rail travel for a whole year

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >couple hours
          Definitely not. It's more than a couple of hours just taking a train from one end of Poland to another. You can't just pack Pzh2000 on any train while also not interrupting other traffic through both Poland and Germany, some of which most probably also being other military aid. You could also possibly avoid a gauge switch between Poland and Ukraine with proper setup. Pretty much any competent military uses forward bases for their logistics instead of relying on shipping everything back.

          The whole point is also retarded because after all Pzh2000 got serviced, all are still shooting, and none broke their barrel.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright, fair point about the gauge which does in fact extend into poland, however considering the low amount of equipment why even use the trains to begin with. Vehicles capable of transporting tanks/spgs exist.
            Poland base only ever makes any sort of sense if we have enough volume moved, so if germany banks on the future deliveries of pzh which ukraine bought, but that shit is so far into the future the war is not going to last long enough for it to matter anyway.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think you can drive a fuckhuge vehicle capable of carrying Pzh2000 through whole Poland in a couple of hours either. That shit would need to avoid a lot of bridges and I doubt it would drive faster.
              >Poland base only ever makes any sort of sense if we have enough volume move
              I have no idea why plopping down that base would be a bad idea regardless. It's still almost 12 Pzh2000 serviced faster and the base itself could serve as an anchor to move other teams servicing any kind of 155m arty. Apparently Lithuania didn't have problems with that
              https://mil.in.ua/en/news/lithuania-will-be-repairing-ukrainian-pzh-2000-self-propelled-howitzers/

  50. 2 months ago
    Stephan

    Oh that's how it feels to become a celebrity. Hi PrepHole

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we totally found the schizo making threads with factual information about Polish aid
      >it's a decent looking, theoretical physicists that isn't a chud
      Doesn't look like Pole bros got much out of it.

      you can stop posting now stephan

      • 2 months ago
        Stephan

        Not me
        How are you PrepHole?

    • 2 months ago
      /out/ie

      Cheers m8

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we totally found the schizo making threads with factual information about Polish aid
      >it's a decent looking, theoretical physicists that isn't a chud
      Doesn't look like Pole bros got much out of it.

      Lmao, desperately trying to damage control to the very end

      • 2 months ago
        Stephan

        Not me, see

        [...]
        I accept your apology

        . But he's right, you shouldn't get much out of that because of

        >on twitter since feb 2022
        oh boy

        Deleted my old account after a bet

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Deleted my old account after a bet
          bro, this isn't reddit. Nobody is buying that excuse.

          • 2 months ago
            Stephan

            But it's the truth :/ I bet with a tankie that russia would invade Ukraine before Feb 20th. We bet our accounts and I lost because Putler took 4 more days

            post german zucker, mehl, zeitung von heute und zeitstempel
            a single photo in front of you screen with this post number will do

            Don't have a newspaper but gimme a minute

            [...]
            Quit making shitty threads Stephan.

            I didn't make the thread. Guess it's one of my followers posting my stuff.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >But it's the truth :/ I bet with a tankie that russia would invade Ukraine before Feb 20th. We bet our accounts and I lost because Putler took 4 more days
              bruh, weakest excuse eu west

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          post german zucker, mehl, zeitung von heute und zeitstempel
          a single photo in front of you screen with this post number will do

          • 2 months ago
            Stephan

            Here you go

            https://i.imgur.com/PIIgqfU.jpg

            ROFL of course pronouns in bio

            Yeah it makes right wingers seethe. Absolutely worth it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >on twitter since feb 2022
      oh boy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it turns out Poland hate threads are made by Twitter tourist seething German tvp-boy with pronouns in his bio
      You can't make it up. It was actually impossible to pick a more stereotypical person behind the post. Holy shit.

  51. 2 months ago
    /out/ie

    Ein Satz mit drei Lügen:
    Ehrlicher Pole mit eigenem Auto sucht Arbeit.

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    fuck Poland, simple as.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate those fucking Polack morons.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    krauts are truly shubhuman

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hate those fucking Polack morons.

      kgb isnt sending their best. You expect me to believe that some random twitter fag just happened to notice a PrepHole thread within minutes of a poster mentioning him?

  55. 2 months ago
    Stephan

    I have sexual relations with men

    • 2 months ago
      Stephan

      What, is that an invitation? Don't you wanna take me to dinner first?

      [...]
      kgb isnt sending their best. You expect me to believe that some random twitter fag just happened to notice a PrepHole thread within minutes of a poster mentioning him?

      Took me 2 hours to find this. I'm a frequent lurker on PrepHole because of the war updates and because I joined a shooting club this year. Trying to get a license for a G3

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        found your zucker or zeitung yet? I guess not

        • 2 months ago
          Stephan

          I did! Here:

          https://i.imgur.com/PylQN2Y.jpg

          Here you go
          [...]
          Yeah it makes right wingers seethe. Absolutely worth it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            what kind of state sponsored psycho renames his links to contain his name? Do you sometimes forget who you are?

            • 2 months ago
              Stephan

              >renames his links
              What do you mean? Do you mean "Jürgen Zoom" etc? It's just the video conference rooms of my boss. We use a lot of different platforms

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >people just now realising all slav countries are the same self-centered corrupted garbage shitholes
    lol
    lmao
    it's russias all the way down
    ukraine, poland, czechs, slovaks whatever
    t. knower

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      post your slav power rating

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So that's what he was takjing about in pic related.
    Disgusting cunts tbqh

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >green politican says
      wasn't the german green party heavily subsidized by FSB?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Na that was the AFD. the greens hate the Russians because they are Fossil fuels, Anti gay agenda, Anti EU, anti democratic etc.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I thought they supported the
          >coal bad, nuclear bad, gas good
          policy

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    already debunked

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is obvious now that with winter the old wounds will cast war between germany and poland
    this will cause poland to join russia for lvov and russia will fly the flag once more in berlin, and then.. london

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would rather be annexed by Czechia than side with Russia. They need a land corridor to Kraloviec anyway.

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >average ukrainian pzh2k operator after shooting his 10th shell in a row

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >one germoid thread about polacks gets archived
    >another one is immediately posted
    Unironically, why are they like this? This level of obsession is so pathetic.
    Yesterday they were seething that actshully poland hates ukraine in secret. 2 days ago some schizo made up random calculations and claimed that polacks lie about their aid to ukraine (this isn't even self-reported data). Earlier germs were shitting at least 3 threads a day about this broken crab barrell.
    That was just last week. I'm not gonna even take similiar threads about France into account. Can't you keep your flagless redd/int/ dramas where day belong? These threads are always just pure seethe and spam of retarded claims that are usually proven wrong in the very same thread. Are all krautoids like this? This can't be just one schizo. I'm starting to consider krauts to be on par with fucking morons, both are insufferable and obsessed with their neighbors.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Are all krautoids like this?
      yes, and they do it for free on a friday night

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fake news designed to divide the west? I can't believe this.
    I wonder who's behind that post.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >polish ministry lying by omission
      Lmao
      Nobody except a randon twitter retard doubted Poland's willing to do it, Germany wants to do it itself, Poland wants its own people to do it, get pait for it and steal technology.

      Na that was the AFD. the greens hate the Russians because they are Fossil fuels, Anti gay agenda, Anti EU, anti democratic etc.

      Greens are heavily fubded by russia through climate NGOs to shut down nuclear energy and coal,the two chief rivals of gas as well.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You won't believe the Polish ministry of defense but you will believe a random german. Cool.
        Do you have any evidence to your claim that the MoD is lying or are you just talking out of your ass?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You won't believe the Polish ministry of defense but you will believe a random german. Cool.
          That is the opposite of what i wrote you dumb moron.
          The ministry isn't lying, it's responding to a retard misrepresenting it to avoid takiing about the real problem.
          Yes, poland is willing to do the repairs (for money) and get free technology.
          Germany wants to do it itself with people who know wtf theyre doing and keep its technology.
          >Do you have any evidence to your claim that the MoD is lying or are you just talking out of your ass?
          As i said in the fucking post you responded to it's lying by omissions.
          Look up the fucking meaning.

          Well the greens wanted out of nuclear AND build up renewable energy sources. But the conservatives had a tantrum about wind and solar being ugly so no replacement was ever build. Instead the große Koalition sold the German gas storage to Gazprom.

          >But the conservatives had a tantrum about wind and solar being ugly
          You retarded child.
          Neither wind nor solar energy are realistic alteratives for Germany. Fuck off back to rəddit.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well if you don't want to pay for it then do it yourself, what's the problem? It's not like Poles are holding all the PzH hostage.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Well if you don't want to pay for it then do it yourself, what's the problem? It's not like Poles are holding all the PzH hostage.
              Are you serious?
              Germany WANTS to do it itself, Poland won't let them set up in their country to do it and demands polish firms do it despite having no experience with the machines and get technology provided for free along with it.
              What the fuck

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Germany WANTS to do it itself,
                Oh sorry I wasn't aware that Poland stole them all and Germany is begging them to release them back.
                That is also not what the MoD is saying btw.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There is mothing to steal, this is about repair hubs.
                And the polish MoD corrected a guy who got it wrong but said nothing about the actual issue at hand, which is about Poland making impossible demands. See this post

                >So it's not Poland that blocks repair hubs
                It is.
                Germany wants to set up repair hubs with its own people abd equipment.
                Poland's demands are:
                1. Polish companies do it (and get paid)
                2. Germany transfers technology
                3. Everybody ignores that poles with no experience with the machine and no time for the 6 month long intensive course to actually learn how to repair them do it and inevitably fuck it up.
                That is acceptable for Germany on every single fucking level and for ukraine particularly in regards to the third point.
                There is no possible way you can cope yourself out of this. PiS isbeing gnomish.

                https://i.imgur.com/EdrcNEE.png

                It's almost as good as pzh2k and ukies have 5 times as much of them. Claiming it's shit in a war where average age of armored vehicle is 40 year old is just silly.

                >It's almost as good as pzh2k and ukies have 5 times as much of them. Claiming it's shit in a war where average age of armored vehicle is 40 year old is just silly.
                They have like 18 krabs and 14 PzH2ks.
                The 54 krabs they ordered aren't selovered yet just like the 100 German howitzers.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They literally said they've designated potential locations and are waiting for a response atm.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Correct.
                I bekieve them completely but it changes nothing about anything in the OPor the 3 ponts illustrated here

                >So it's not Poland that blocks repair hubs
                It is.
                Germany wants to set up repair hubs with its own people abd equipment.
                Poland's demands are:
                1. Polish companies do it (and get paid)
                2. Germany transfers technology
                3. Everybody ignores that poles with no experience with the machine and no time for the 6 month long intensive course to actually learn how to repair them do it and inevitably fuck it up.
                That is acceptable for Germany on every single fucking level and for ukraine particularly in regards to the third point.
                There is no possible way you can cope yourself out of this. PiS isbeing gnomish.

                Do you have any response to that or will you just keep repeating that Poland is waiting to fuck Germany over with its impossible demands?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's called negotiations.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's called throwing your "ally" Ukraine under the bus by delaying their repairs with impossible demands.
                Germany can't accept that. Polish staff isn't qualified to handle the machines, German technology isn't something you get just by being disgusting rats and why the FUCK is Poland trying to be gnomish in this situation in the first place?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                When has poland ever not been gnomish?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                1939 to 1944.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's called throwing your "ally" Ukraine under the bus
                I don't want to hear that shit from a German. I'm sure Ukrainians will find those construction worker helmets useful.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Third most aid sent globally.
                Look uo what was actually sent in the lost on wikipedia,,tgen come back andcope while trying to pretend all of it doesn't actualky count. I'm sure you've dine that a lot already.

                >These howitzers are the best in the world
                as if someone needed to prove that you fags are so full of yourselves that you can't use your brains properly
                >repairing damaged hull is the same thing as building a whole howitzer from scratch
                yeah great point, you've made here I can tell you're an expert

                >as if someone needed to prove that you fags are so full of yourselves that you can't use your brains properly
                Facts don't care abiit subhuman feelings
                damaged hull is the same thing as building a whole howitzer from scratch
                Actually the PzH2k hull has sime prerry interesting layers, but nobidy is talking about that.
                >yeah great point, you've made here I can tell you're an expert
                I can tell you never served with any heavy machinery.
                Post branch and rank, gay.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah how about you come back when you learn English?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not an argument, but i acceot your surrender.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I accept that you're clinically retarded and probably a phone poster as well. You lost.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wow PrepHole we have german howitzer engineer larper here...

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Actually the PzH2k hull has sime prerry interesting layers, but nobidy is talking about that
                oh i can't wait for you to explain me
                I'm sure it's sooooooo much different than hulls in other howitzers
                >inb4 magic runes

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You won't get shit, it's forgotten German tech of previous millennium.
                Same as hyperkraut gun alloy that breaks th law of physics, adding 20% range to every type of projectile. Despite keeping the same barrel length and propellant charge.
                Magic, son.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                still waiting for the details of those "pretty interesting layers nobody is talking about"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well the greens wanted out of nuclear AND build up renewable energy sources. But the conservatives had a tantrum about wind and solar being ugly so no replacement was ever build. Instead the große Koalition sold the German gas storage to Gazprom.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > the große Koalition sold the German gas storage to Gazprom.
          What kind of person sells strategic infrastructure to literal mob?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So it's not Poland that blocks repair hubs. It's Germany that blocks repair hubs because they are afraid that their super secret technology leaks. Even though everybody knows how pzh2k works...

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So it's not Poland that blocks repair hubs. It's Germany that blocks repair hubs because they are afraid that their super secret technology leaks
          What the fuck
          Sharing the technology is literally part of Poland's demands. Read the fucking picture in the OP.

          It doesn't have soviet chasse tho but the korean one, and the end product ended up pretty good.

          It was initially supoosed to have a soviet chassis.
          How the fuck is nonody able to read simple English here?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So it's not Poland that blocks repair hubs
          It is.
          Germany wants to set up repair hubs with its own people abd equipment.
          Poland's demands are:
          1. Polish companies do it (and get paid)
          2. Germany transfers technology
          3. Everybody ignores that poles with no experience with the machine and no time for the 6 month long intensive course to actually learn how to repair them do it and inevitably fuck it up.
          That is acceptable for Germany on every single fucking level and for ukraine particularly in regards to the third point.
          There is no possible way you can cope yourself out of this. PiS isbeing gnomish.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then take them to Germany and have them repaired. Simple as.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              That takes a lot longer, though right now they require maintenance more than any in-depth repairs.
              Why is Poland being garden gnomes about this? Why fuck over Ukraine out of greed?
              Poland loses nothing except some time of their freight trains, which they'd get paid for and have not minded ever since the war started.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine to Germany by rail is a couple hours.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not if Poles don't give you spots in the train schedule.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                High speed passenger trains don't transport 60 ton howitzers and it's a lot more than that anyway. How small do you think Europe is?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well then send them through Slovakia and Czech Republic. I can assure you that Europe is small enough.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >block any significant aid for ukraine for months
                >when you finally lift your finger you expect your neighbours to accept just any deal you're going to give them because german MIT would risk losing a few pennies
                >the same MIT that spergs out any time someone in europe tries to compete with them, but I only germs have the right to protect their industry
                >"if you're not like me you're a garden gnome"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Germany sent the third most aid in the world.
                Poland send old soviet shit, got free western shit abx tried to garden gnome their way to more free shit at every opportunity at the expense of Ukraine while pretending to be altruistic.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you remind me real quick what happened to that T-72s to Ukraine for Leopards deal? Because those Leopards sure take their time to arrive.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                German industry is incapable of producing more than 1 tank per year. You see poor Germany doesn't have tanks for their own army, let alone for other countries.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >b-but we've send so much crap from our surplus once it became clear that russia is losing
                lmao you're just whiny gays and cowards

                It's called throwing your "ally" Ukraine under the bus by delaying their repairs with impossible demands.
                Germany can't accept that. Polish staff isn't qualified to handle the machines, German technology isn't something you get just by being disgusting rats and why the FUCK is Poland trying to be gnomish in this situation in the first place?

                >Germany can't accept that
                HAHAHAHAHA NO FUCKING WAY
                of course, the fate of Ukraine was so very important to germany all along, they were friends since forever, absolutely
                russia? german enemy of course, they never cooperated or whatever
                you're so full of shit lel
                >why the FUCK is Poland trying to be gnomish in this situation in the first place?
                idk, why were you all the way from 2014 (or even 2008) until what, May/June 2022?
                acting like an innocent moralgay while being the dirtiest guy around, very impressive

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >1. Polish companies do it (and get paid)
            God havens, they want to get WHAT? PAID? The audacity
            >2. Germany transfers technology
            Does your car mechanic also needs "transfer of technology" to change oil in your engine? Or switch tires?
            >3. Everybody ignores that poles with no experience with the machine and no time for the 6 month long intensive course to actually learn how to repair them do it and inevitably fuck it up.
            No stefan, you can't service this voltzvagen, you first need 6 moths of "technology transfer" and it doesn't matter that you daily service other cars voltzvagen cars are special!

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >God havens, they want to get WHAT? PAID? The audacity
              They're not supposed to do it at all,German staff that actually know the machines are.
              >Does your car mechanic also needs "transfer of technology" to change oil in your engine? Or switch tires?
              These howitzers are the best in the world for a reason. The same reason Poland demands technology transfers in the first place.
              >No stefan, you can't service this voltzvagen, you first need 6 moths of "technology transfer" and it doesn't matter that you daily service other cars voltzvagen cars are special
              >SPGs are cars
              moron you are fucking retarded.
              Yes, slavoid, you can't just repair a PzH2k just bevause you used a Krab. Just like you can't repair an F-35 because you can maintain a Mig.
              Howfucking delusional are you? Have you ever even repaired a car?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You know one can argue that fighter jets are tiny miny more complex than glorified tank with big gun silly kraut.
                also
                >PzH2k
                >best in the world
                kek

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You know one can argue that fighter jets are tiny miny more complex than glorified tank with big gun silly kraut.
                >also
                But SPGs are on the level of a volkswagen?
                Kek, garden gnome
                And you're right, its (German) successor is better depending on what you value.
                No other SPG comes close though.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No other SPG allows for the projectile to fall a tiny bit everytime the barrel is raised.
                Which changes the volume of combustion chamber a little.
                Which fucks up the pressure, projectile speed and overall accuracy.
                There's a reason Germans advertise PZH2000 with guided shells.
                They do so to offset the hardly known flaw Bundeswehr doesn't gives a fuck about.

              • 2 months ago
                sage

                stefan, you got fucked, let it go

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >These howitzers are the best in the world
                as if someone needed to prove that you fags are so full of yourselves that you can't use your brains properly
                >repairing damaged hull is the same thing as building a whole howitzer from scratch
                yeah great point, you've made here I can tell you're an expert

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I truly hope you are a vatnik "stephan", because even if i consider Germans too stiff and smelling their own farts a little too much, i do think they are, eventually, decent people. Just misguided.
                There is no reason we should fight eachother, when there are ruskies just asking for ass whooping.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                >muh boogeyman
                Poles are garden gnomes and if they vote for PiS again they deserve their fate.

                Can you remind me real quick what happened to that T-72s to Ukraine for Leopards deal? Because those Leopards sure take their time to arrive.

                You seem misinformed. The whole deal was shitty tanks for Ukraine now for better western tanks in the future.
                Worked with everybody but poland because polish politicians demanded over 3 times the worth of the tanks they sent and then lied about it to their state oened media.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah we got those already through the US, talk about throwing your ally under the bus. Thanks for nothing Germany.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you know, poland demanding 3 times the worth of their tanks and lying about it is just the same as poland blocking support hubs with impossibke demands and complaining about it
                Kek, I guess in a way you're right, except for the culprit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So it makes it okay to not send anything at all in return? Cool. Nice making deals with you.
                No wonder they're asking for payment up front now for those repair stations.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >poland demanding 3 times the worth of their tanks
                what are you even babbling about?
                >and lying about it
                meds, now
                >is just the same as poland blocking support hubs with impossibke demands
                >impossible demands
                shiggy diggy
                >and complaining about it
                you guys are the whiny gays who've made this and gorillion other butthurt threads

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT vatnik shills all of you. Both pzh and crabs are great systems that Ukies need.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not even poland thinks the krab isgood, it was a temprary solution that initually tried to reuse soviet chasses,was put on ice and then hastily revived with parts from all over the world.

      https://i.imgur.com/FPlbUzn.png

      because they don't trust selfish krautoids, a country known to be the very worst cancer of europe?

      There is 0 trust involved, poland just had to open some time in its train achedules to get German equipment there and refused because it tried to garden gnome them out if their technology.
      Literal subhuman behavior.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't have soviet chasse tho but the korean one, and the end product ended up pretty good.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not good enough apparently because they're getting replaced for moron shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If ukies think it's good enough, it's good enough

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ukies think towed artillery is good enough to use, anon.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's almost as good as pzh2k and ukies have 5 times as much of them. Claiming it's shit in a war where average age of armored vehicle is 40 year old is just silly.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >There is 0 trust involved
        i thought they are supposed to let german army and mechanics have a whole fucking maintance hub there?
        >just had to open some time in its train achedules
        that surely is everything you need to open a fucking maintance hub
        >refused because it tried to garden gnome them out if their technology
        what does that even mean? i thought they wanted to co-organize it (because they don't trust you)
        asking for technical details is not exactly the same as stealing the whole technological process
        >Literal subhuman behavior.
        so you're both on the same level, what's the tbig deal? or are you going to act like your compatriots are not literal bugs in a human skin?

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Please use a trip Stephen, I want to distinguish who is a paid Russian shill and who is the seething German twink.

    • 2 months ago
      Stephan

      I can’t stop having sex with men…

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair who gives a shit now. Germany was the bigger issue early on refusing to send anything when the fate of Ukraine was still up in the air. Now when it's pretty much a given Russia is dead I can't blame Poles for trying to get something out of the whole thing considering they sent all their gear without even knowing it won't turn up in Russian hands after a month.

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: Germany making shit up to avoid their responsibilities again

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ruzzians turned german pipelines into big jacuzzi
    No wonder krauts are malding about ukraine.

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >POLAND IS BLOCKING REPAIR HUB FOR GERMAN SHITWARE

    >WE CAN'T REPAIR THE SHITWARE IN GERMANY USING TRAINED™ PROFESSIONAL® PERSONNEL, THIS WOULD ADD 3 DAYS OF OVERHEAD FOR SHIPPING

    >AND BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT 3 DAYS OF SHIPPING OVERHEAD TO REPAIR OUT SHITWARE WE ARE GOING TO SPEND THE NEXT 6 MONTHS COMPLAINING ABOUT IT ON TWITTER WITH OUR FINGERS CROSSED THAT UKRAINE OR RUSSIA GIVES UP SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL AND PRETEND WE WERE THE HEROES

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >LETTING POLES DO ALL THE WORK?
    >ARE ZYOU CRAZY?
    >TORQUEING 4 BOLTS THAT FASTEN THE CUPHOLDER TO THE CABIN TO 98 NEWTON METERS OF TORQUE + PRECISELY 12,3 DEGREES REQUIRES AT LEAST 8 YEARS OF TRAINING

  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    gay I'm not giving you any more (You)s until you learn how to write in English properly. This is the last one, spend it wisely.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a polack in exile, spare him

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he has pronouns in his twitter bio
        100% ethnic german

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >i was pretending to be retarded all this time
    We know stefan, we know.

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    while i do not disagree that pis in poland is a menace to society, modern day krauts are too autistic to handle the war time maintenance expectations. They will hold up entire SPG because of a fucking blinker malfunction.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Those are peace time maintenance standards, anon. In war blinkers get fixed by the troops.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you did not work with germans, didnt you?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Germany hasn't been at war since 1945.

          [...]
          kek, you've send TWO (2) MARS2s (worth like one and a half HIMARS) some time after the US send their first HIMARS, so that already happened insummer, just like I said. So, you've send very little after long time, are whiny gays about the world not appreciating that and proud of it
          really impressive man, i feel so btfo, wow
          >youre just trying to distract from the topic because there is no way to defend Poland's actions in the OP
          there is no way to defend german action prior to june
          as for that twitter drama you're crying about, if germs really wanted to help they'd just agree to some compromise instead of crying
          i wouldn't care if poland was stopping you purely out spite, since you are fags who arrive late to the party and want to take credit for everything
          subhuman tier, fuck you

          >TWO (2) MARS2s (worth like one and a half HIMARS)
          ?
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, I'm so sorry, you delivered another ONE (1), one month later. That really changes a lot, you've got me. I kneel.

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >yfw german equipment throws a check your priviledge light because it's 2 days past the scheduled oil change

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    kek, you've send TWO (2) MARS2s (worth like one and a half HIMARS) some time after the US send their first HIMARS, so that already happened insummer, just like I said. So, you've send very little after long time, are whiny gays about the world not appreciating that and proud of it
    really impressive man, i feel so btfo, wow
    >youre just trying to distract from the topic because there is no way to defend Poland's actions in the OP
    there is no way to defend german action prior to june
    as for that twitter drama you're crying about, if germs really wanted to help they'd just agree to some compromise instead of crying
    i wouldn't care if poland was stopping you purely out spite, since you are fags who arrive late to the party and want to take credit for everything
    subhuman tier, fuck you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we are not gonna give you shit ukraine, you will die in 3 days anyway
      Aged like a fine milk! Just like north stream.

  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >he's already bragging about making another butthurt thread in the future
    krautmorons have no shame

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I understand the Polish notr trusting Germany.

    What if the entire idea behind the repair hub so close to Ukrainian border is to set up an intelligence gathering centre to gather info on everything that goes to Ukraine and hand it to Russia for future concessions?

    It wouldn't be the first time Germany does this.
    They were ready to throw entirety of eastern flank of NATO under the bus for russian gas cummies (Nordstream)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they'd surely set up those way before establishing the proper maintance hub itself, which is going to be scheduled for summer 2024 or something like this

  77. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >i was just PRETENDING to be retarded
    aight stephan, we've reached the bump limit, make a fresh one

  78. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    German superiority is a widely known fact.
    Couple that with polish inferiority complexes and you get like 40 posts in less than an hour filled eith pire seethe.
    It's beautiful.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      smelling your own farts after getting btfo in your own thread is not going to change anything

  79. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >post butthurt obsessed thread
    >fill it with butthurt obsessed posts
    >uhmmm... no u
    jesus christ are you even trying
    it's not like this thread is different than any of the dozen german seethethreads posted this week anyway

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's not like this thread is different than any of the dozen german seethethreads posted this week anyway
      So in the "dozen" threads the vast majority of posts were made by seething tourists as well?
      German efficiency.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        no, half was made by obsessed krauts and the other half by people calling them retards
        the fact you feel proud about being so buttblasted is genuinely hilarious
        german autism

  80. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ah yes Germany, the country that started and lost both world wars. True authority when it comes to winning wars. Thank god poles told them to fuck off.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Serbia started WWI
      UK/France started WWII by declaring war themselves

  81. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just roll these in.

  82. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >German seethe thread for the 5 millionth time this week

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