>pirate Ancient Apocalypse
>watch it
>liberals seethe twice
This show is a black swan for archaeology. Left wing 'science' is having a bad year.
>pirate Ancient Apocalypse. >watch it. >liberals seethe twice
>pirate Ancient Apocalypse
>watch it
>liberals seethe twice
This show is a black swan for archaeology. Left wing 'science' is having a bad year.
''Real'' scientist having an anal ragnarok over this show lmao. Based Graham. Nobody can prove him wrong.
The haters keep throwing a fit about stuff that isn't even mentioned in the show. Every thread they can't shut up about their stawmen and ad hominems.
Makes it obvious the show is correct. They're mad because it's true.
if you're going to go over to reddit, stay there and don't come back
Sorry, I didn't realize PrepHole was for kosher conversation only.
>Muh holocaust
FRICKING REALLY???
Most elaborate troll Ive ever seen
>Nobody can prove him wrong.
that's not how things work. all of you chuds love shit like this because it validates exactly how you operate: postulate a bunch of unsubstantiated bullshit that goes against the mainstream narrative for no reason other than it's contrarian.
you don't care about finding the truth, you just want to le trigger the libtards
If you spent half the energy you spend being mad at people online and put it into getting laid you'd probably be happier.
Calm the frick down, incel.
you're talking about the people on this board that have meltdowns over seeing a minority in a movie right?
Triggering libtards is exactly how to find the truth. Truth is like fire to Leftists.
the irony
Says the right wing, the side of the political spectrum that believes in flat earth, horse dewormers against covid, listening televangelists and the ramblings of a schizo pseudo-historian who became famous because of fricking Joe Rogan.
Says the left wing, the side of the political spectrum that believes in communism, men can chop their penises off to be women, and believes that seed oils aren’t bad for you
you sound like someone who drank horse dewormer last year because libs told you not to
You sound like a thirdie mad that your corrupt governments tourist revenue is being threatened
>want to watch ancient apocalypse
>can't be arsed to leave the sofa
>can't reach the remote
>simply sing at the remote until it levitates to me
>watch ancient apocalypse
I read a long time ago in this book that was called You are Being Lied To that Sanskrit writings indicate that civilization could be tens of thousands of years old but it was hard to know if what I was reading was real or not
Why are the scientific elites so scared of this man?
A couple years from now we're going to think about archaeology like we currently think of the pharma pseudoscience.
proof?
You realise Hanwiener's been at this for decades right? I'm a boomer and I can remember reading his books as a child.
Yeah but the Netflix show is entertaining and mainstream so now it's going to be public knowledge.
They tried to silence him all that time. This show is their defeat.
its going to be public knowledge that graham hanwiener believes an ancient civilization of white people existed before the ice age, levitated rocks with throat singing, sailed the planet on said levitating rocks, communicated globally and with other dimensions with DMT, then was completely wiped out without a trace by a comet that hit the earth and left no crater because it landed in snow, and he believes all of this because it was revealed to him during a drug binge?
>civilization got conveniently wiped out by a comet
>can say whatever he wants, even that they industrialized but we'll never know for sure because all the evidence is gone
how fortuitous for him
You're using fortuitous wrong in an attempt to seem smart.
You meant to say
>how fortunate for him
You're
1)correcting someone for no reason
2)completely wrong. fortuitous indicates serrendipity
You definitely used the word 'fortuitous' wrong. I corrected you properly.
Feel free to keep using it wrong. You're only embarassing yourself.
>similar
They're the same root word. Of course they are similar. They are used in different contexts.
You incorrectly used
>fortuitious
where you should have used
>fortunate
because you think 'fortuitous' sounds smart. Next time you want to use a smart sounding word construct your sentenct correctly.
You could say he found a fortuitous rock, which proved mainstream archaology incorrect.
If you're saying
>how [x] for him
you put 'fortunate' in there. Not fortuitous.
This is a strange argument we are having. Do you think if you argue long enough you can change the English language? I was correcting you out of kindness. I'm trying to help you appear less moronic and cringy. You come across as a child.
You're a fool with a large ego. moving on from this discussion. Just remember for your own sake, when you correct someone on a minor detail, please be sure you're correct.
I am correct.
I'm not even the OP, you just annoy me for being not only pedantic, but also wrong while being pedantic.
fortunate and fortuitous are both adjectives, so whatever OP said, it wasnt gramatically wrong. As far as semantics, fortuitous and fortunate are very similar, but fortuitous is better in that instance because it denotes coincidence while fortunate is more like lucky.
No your seething probably won't be public knowledge. People will just watch the show which contains none of your stawmen or ad hominems.
They'll never see your clever deboonk.
>strawmen and ad hominems
its shit graham hanwiener has directly and openly stated as his beliefs.
We are currently discussing a Netflix show called Ancient Apocalypse (2022). You're fixated on something not included in the show.
The show is correct. I can see that makes you upset.
see
why is it so important that people ignore how graham hanwiener openly stated he believes an ancient civilization of white people existed before the ice age, levitated rocks with throat singing, sailed the planet on said levitating rocks, communicated globally and with other dimensions with DMT, then was completely wiped out without a trace by a comet that hit the earth and left no crater because it landed in snow, and he believes all of this because it was revealed to him during a drug binge?
>le oversimplify and overspecifying random access humor
Millennial moment
your anger at
proves it correct
>uhhmmmm uhhhh you mad!!???
Millennial moment
your response to
has proven that you are, in fact, upset.
>autistic echolalia
I accept your concession
>believes an ancient civilization of white people existed before the ice age,
I too enjoyed reading Conan the Barbarian
D-Did he just say white people existed before the ice age? AAAHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M GOING FRICKING INSANE MAKE IT STOP NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
just provide proof homie. that's all you have to do lmao like just provide evidence homie
You want me to provide proof white people existed before and during the ice age?
Archeo-astronomy in ancient sites is pretty well accepted now tbh. It's not even debated at this point. It was controversial when Graham started though.
>You want me to provide proof white people existed before and during the ice age?
can you provide proof for all...hell, any of the guy's claims?
You don't seem to understand knowledge. You can't prove yourself right you can only prove a hypothesis wrong.
The show proves that mainstream narrative is wrong. That's it. That's all it can prove. It does it excellently, providing several black swans.
It provides an alternative hypothesis but, as I already mentioned, you can't prove a hypothesis correct. That's not how knowledge is acquired.
you've said this like five times in this thread. proof?
did you just learn the phrase black swan or something?
He’s repeated it because that’s what the scientific method is. Like he said, you misunderstand what science is or what it’s capable of and judging by this thread you are not open to correction
The history of archaeology is full of corrections, they just require a standard of evidence that so far Hanwiener has been unable to provide.
He provides at least two black swans in the show. That's the highest form of evidence and cannot be refuted. The mainstream narrative is obliterated. Done. Finished.
Which two are you thinking of?
watch the show now on netflix to find out!
The cart tracks and the huts aligned to sirius star. I'd also count Gobekli Tepe itself as a black swan.
I'm actually not finished the show so there might be more.
the excavation of gobekli tepe isn't going to be completed for at least a decade. nothing about it currently indicates a pre-ice-age civilization.
>pre-ice-age
I think you're not understand he's talking about an ICE AGE civilization, not "pre-ice age". He's talking about about 12,000 years ago, the ice age started 100,000 years ago.
Proof, evidence, and sources have been repeatedly posted ITT and last thread to you, yes you specifically because you're the same fricking homosexual posting the same fricking way, and you don't care.
Yeah I wasn't interested in arguing that. That's why I only said two for sure.
If I understand corrrectly before Gobekli Tepe they were claiming no megalith structures in that era. So it would be a black swan if that's the case even though it doesn't date back to pre-ice age.
>there's no evidence of megaliths before x
>we found a megalith from before x
your head:
>SCIENCE IS DEAD!!!!
in reality
>there are megaliths from before x
A new discovery was made, archaeologists added this new discovery into their theories based on the evidence they found.
They'd do the same for Hanwiener's hypothetical civilisation if he could provide supporting evidence.
Well they need to add the evidence on Malta to their theories because it totally obliterates the bogus timeline they are still peddling.
elaborate?
There are stone structures aligned with star positions thousands of years before they were supposed to be built. Also there's manmade tracks that go underwater, which was only above water thousands of years before the mainstream timeline.
keep going. you almost have something resembling an argument.
One of those black swans alone is enough to destroy the mainstream narrative. That's how black swans work. Two is overkill.
As far as I can see the archaeological consensus on the Maltese tracks is "we dunno lol" (https://www.um.edu.mt/library/oar/bitstream/123456789/20900/1/LAND%20USE%20IN%20PREHISTORIC%20MALTA.%20A%20RE-EXAMINATION%20OF.pdf), what narrative are they destroying?
Destroys the mainstream timeline because they go underwater.
Same with the huts aligned to the sirius stars. Pushes the timeframe back by thousands of years.
my house aligns with siris too. only it would've needed to be built 10,000 years ago.
>Destroys the mainstream timeline because they go underwater.
They go underwater now, but not during the Bronze Age.
>huts aligned with Sirius
What the frick does that prove? People in prehistory assigned huge significance to the stars. Astronomy nerds back then were probably the equivalent of nerds today.
the "aligned with stars" thing is graham saying it only would've been aligned x thousand years before "the official" timeline says they were built.
>proposes that they were deliberately constructed in order to push the boundaries of available arable land and are better identified as field furrows
The ruts go underwater. If they were constructed for agriculture this moves the first appearance of agriculture back by thousands of years. In other words it supports Graham Hanwiener in a huge way.
>The ruts go underwater.
not 3000 years ago
If Graham Hanwiener's ideas were just "I reckon some stuff happened earlier" no-one would have a problem, they'd still ask for evidence but people wouldn't think him moronic. Its when he starts saying its because a global civilisation went around teaching shit to everyone that people raise an eyebrow.
Nah the stuff they are really upset about are the things like the Malta megaliths and ruts. It makes the kosher timeline impossible.
Can you show any examples of archaeologists being upset about Gobekli Tepe or Malta?
>people just rolled heavy carts into the ocean often enough that it grooved the rocks
If the grooves weren’t made while all that land was above sea level, you need to explain why the frick they would do that
>If the grooves weren’t made while all that land was above sea level,
They were, in the Bronze Age.
>We know that in the last 3,000 years, the level of the seawater has risen. In fact right next to these ruts, there are a number of Bronze Age silo pits, some of which are now underwater
-David Trump, who's worked on Maltese archaeology for years.
The cart track remain intriguing but here again they're looking for alignments until them find them. You can get anything to align with something significant if go back in time far enough.
That we know of. This is where GH's line of reasoning works against him. You can easily postulate smaller transitional sites that've been destroyed by time or progressive re-use of the site. You dig down under some of these cities in the region and you start hitting plenty of signs of neolithic occupation.
Bingo.
The same people who approve evidence gathering exploration don't want more evidence. It's a main part of Graham's whole thinking and has been since he started; ironically its never been more relevant.
so why didnt he do it? oh right
>The same people who approve evidence gathering exploration don't want more evidence
What do you think archaeologists do every day? There are thousands of archaeologists working in the field in just the UK alone. If archaeologists didn't want 'more evidence' then they wouldn't bother dragging their arses out of bed at 5am every morning in the middle of winter to go and dig holes in fields.
Wheel ruts and rocks are not 'black swans'. Hanwiener can say he has evidence when an actual site has been excavated with a fricking harris matrix showing his stratigraphic proof of a 14000 year old civilisation. Until then he can smoke his DMT in the corner and telekinetically wank himself off with vibrational resonance.
They should be trying to gather evidence which proves themselves wrong. That's how you test a hypothesis.
They refuse to do that. They are not scientists. Leftists don't have scientific minds. They are socially motivated women.
When someone wants to prove them wrong they refuse to allow access.
Does Graham Hanwiener try to gather evidence that proves himself wrong?
No he tries to gather evidence that proves the dominant hypothesis wrong. He succeeded.
proof?
people have been all over the malta tracks, there's nothing there.
Post your pasta again.
that malta episode really blown my mind. first time I heard it
>If I understand corrrectly before Gobekli Tepe they were claiming no megalith structures in that era
Yeah, for the opposite reason Hanwiener would have you believe. Prior to that the general consensus was that a society building something of that scale necessitated agriculture. Gobekli Tepe proved the opposite of what Hanwiener argues. Megalithic structures do not require an advanced civilisation.
The people of Gobekli Tepe were advanced what are you talking about?
They were advanced enough to carve and arrange rocks certainly.
>They didn't they Nintendo switches so they weren't advanced
Ok.
>pretending
It's the same one person.
>It's the same one person
It's a bot
Yeah, trannies are so triggered they are spamming these threads with bots.
Look at how often this post comes up:
If there's evidence they were "advanced" I'm open to hear it.
By advanced they don't mean planes and phones, they mean "tools and social organisation to build large stone monuments and have people fed while doing so"
Bronze Age stuff, but during the early stone age
the problem with thinking they weren't hunter-gatherers is gobekli tepe is located at a site where, during spring, there would've been forest, thus flowering plants, migrating birds, and migrating gazelle. which would've been dreamlike to hunter-gatherers.
A really interesting part of why gobekli tepe is so unique is that it was built around that transitional period between agriculture, city building, and pure hunter gather.
and finding a place that has tons of food during one season, in stark contrast to the rest of the year, would motivate people to, ya know, civilize.
I find it especially interesting because they immediately went from zero to biggest-megalith-structure-ever.
Hard to explain that without a hypothesis similar to Hanwiener's. Humans need to develop skills, they don't download stonecrafting to their brain like they are in the matrix.
>immediately
you mean over hundreds/thousands of years.
No, it was immediate. No signs of the technology being developed on a smaller scale. No evidence of learning or improving skills.
They just immediately built the largest part of the complex with fully developed megalith tech and stone carving.
anon we already know the gobekli tepe was slowly built over centuries.
They immediately started building megaliths and stone carvings at maximum development. There's no evidence of earlier more rudimentary work.
there is evidence of earlier, more rudimentary work. i guess graham left that out of his series.
The oldest part of Gobekli Tepe has already fully developed megaliths and stone carvings. They dated it.
nope. in his show, graham took the dating of the oldest layer and applied it to one of the newer ones. as he understands nothing about geology.
How do you have a half developed megalith?
Real life isn't a tech tree. The phase 1 Gobekli Tepe carvings are very impressive and amazing finds but I wouldn't say they're evidence of a higher civilisation helping them. The material culture amd faunal assemblages associated with it are entirely consistent with a hunter gatherer-early farming transitional society.
Even if this were true, whats more likely:
>some people developed stone masonry over time, but we lack the evidence showing the gradual development
>some people were taught stone masonry by another group of people, but we lack the evidence showing their gradual development, or even their existence
They are effectively the same hypothesis but one adds a random group of people in there for no reason. Both require someone at some point developing stone masonry.
The second one is more plausible because the lack of archaological record can be easily explained by a cataclysmic event which sunk their civilization.
what about
?
why would people just leave crude/rudimentary carvings on their epic stone stack? why would they think "hey in 11,000 years people are going to want to know how we suddenly knew how to do this, lets leave this ugly shit up"
Proof?
There's no evidence they replaced older stuff with newer stuff. The evidence shows only that they suddenly started making megaliths and carvings.
>replaced
anon they're fricking rocks. they can be carved after they're placed.
Proof?
you need me to prove to you that you can do things to something after you build/place them?
have you never built anything in your life? not even lego?
You could just as easily say the evidence of the local group was wiped out by a similar more probable localised event. Its impossible to make the second hypothesis more parsimonious because every excuse you can use for the people with no evidence can equally be used for the people with some evidence.
>evidence showing gradual development
Except this part is excised in the second scenario because being taught means you don't need to gradually learn how to work stone, your carvers and workers learn it quickly and directly. They have a few practice monoliths and then get directly into making big, successful shit. The lack of evidence of gradual development is support for the theory that someone else taught them a headstart.
or they just recarved any of their old shitty carvings.
Its the simplest possibility but doesn't entirely rule out others.
Maybe they learned off the works themselves rather than people who made them. They were copying already successful planning without understanding until later with the little they had.
>The lack of evidence of gradual development is support for the theory that someone else taught them a headstart
So why were they still using late Mesolithic tools? Who were these mysterious people that taught them to carve rocks but didn't teach them how to make more advanced tools? Or farm? And where is the evidence of their material culture?
The people that supposedly taught them had to develop stone masonry at some point anon. You're just pushing back the request for evidence onto the teachers.
>there's no evidence for development of stone masonry, therefore they MUST have been taught it by another group of people
>where is the evidence this other group of people developed stone masonry?
>there isn't any
>...
>We know because.... we just do, ok??!?!
>t. hasn't read a single thing about it
There are layers to it moron.
All you're doing is pushing the need for evidence back a step. How did the civilisation that supposedly taught the Tepe fellas learn stone masonry? Where is their development of their skills? Where is the evidence they even exist?
>Hard to explain that without a hypothesis similar to Hanwiener's. Humans need to develop skills, they don't download stonecrafting to their brain like they are in the matrix.
Stone tools AKA tools carved from stone predates homosexual sapiens.
Why are Hanwiener's supporters so fricking moronic?
to own the libs of course!
Stone tools are a much earlier technology than megaliths and carved stone statues.
You're being dishonest.
that is a normal rock anon
Pre-human ancestors had stone tools >2 million years ago. Humans evolved because tools made us apex predators.
The development of megalith and stone carving came much later. Gobekli Tepe is the earliest example of it and it's only 11,000 years old.
>You're being dishonest.
No one is being dishonest, you just have a learning disability.
People have been making stone tools since before they were what we would consider people.
It's not that much of a stretch to take the same idea and scale it up to carve a megalith.
>It's not that much of a stretch to take the same idea and scale it up to carve a megalith.
Yeah. Obviously humans were doing it way before Gobekli Tepe. The older megalith structures are at the bottom of the ocean.
then why doesn't graham hanwiener go find them? he doesn't need permission to dive
I remember when I was a child and I thought things like
>if africans are hungry why don't they just build a mcdonalds?
>if gold is valuable why don't they just use some sort of ground penetrating beam to find it?
You remind me of myself when I was a child. You'll figure it out someday, sport.
oh look, a complete lack of response to an obvious question.
finding underwater evidence of ancient advanced civilization wouldn't be difficult... if the evidence existed. but yea, you were a dumb kid and now you're a dumb adult.
We do actually do underwater archaeology. It's not some arcane art. Pavlopetri, an ancient Greek port which is now entirely submerged, was scanned using sonar and it's been mapped almost perfectly.
And?
and... its something hanwiener could easily do, to ya know, gather evidence. granted, its not as easy as eating a bunch of shrooms and DMT and having the higher dimensional beings tell him everything.
Many people don't understand the first monuments were made of wood. Look at Stonehenge. These monuments were recycled, destroyed intentionally, or destroyed naturally.
True, it's possible elements of Gobekli Tepe were reused elements of earlier monuments.
and to expand on that
>holy shit that looks bad
>its stone
>lets improve it
thus all evidence of gradual development is erased.
The total site of "Stonehenge" is actually fricking huge; barely anything remains except the stone henge itself. The remains of the wood structures keep pushing the date back of the site everytime they find more.
Yep, the ritual landscape is massive. It actually extends further than the WHS as well, Avebury mound is quite a way away.
A localised group of people getting better over time at arranging rocks seems more likely than an evidenceless remote group of people getting better at arranging rocks then coming to teach the local group don't you think?
>I find it especially interesting because they immediately went from zero to biggest-megalith-structure-ever.
That's not really true, the site developed over centuries-millennia and the initial phase was only a small part of what it became. There are smaller sites from around the same period in the region.
They were. Hanwiener's argument is that 'simple hunter gatherers' couldn't be advanced enough to build it.
>The cart tracks
Are cart tracks worn into soft limestone. I don't see what they prove
>the scientific method is just repeating the same shit over and over and ignoring all contradicting evidence
hmm.
I'm trying to explain to you the situation you are faced with.
Mainstream dogma ('all swans are white') has now encountered a TV show that clearly showed everyone black swans. Anyone who watches the show will not be able to unsee the black swans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory
You keep squawking
>proof? proof? proof?
but you don't even understand what is being proven or how.
>now encountered
He's been encountered since the 90s
What a weird place to stop reading. The sentence was:
>now encountered a TV show that clearly showed everyone black swans
The current gnashing of teeth is because Netflix has made it mainstream knowledge.
Netflix recently released an entertaining TV show called Ancient Apocalypse (2022). Maybe you've heard of it?
you're the only person who seems to be "gnashing teeth"
Its been mainstream knowledge since the 90s mate thats what I'm saying. I read his books as a child, he's been on many tv shows.
Nothing in his latest show is new to anyone familiar with his work.
Does he not cover the comet impact? That's relatively new and not in his original work iirc.
I don't think its in his 90s books I seem to remember him talking about some massive techtonic shift back then instead but I'm pretty sure I've heard the comet theory pre-2022.
The comet theory, he got it from Randall Carlson. You can check JRE with them both talking about this shit and it ends up with Randall giving him tours around america about his comet impact theory, and that is how his netflix show is born.
>Does he not cover the comet impact? That's relatively new and not in his original work iirc.
>I'm pretty sure I've heard the comet theory pre-2022.
I'm not a nerd at all, and even I knew about comets killing all the dinosaurs, when I was in kindergarten. I didn't have to read a book for that.
>the dinosaurs
Holy shit dude. That happened over 60 million years ago and was an asteroid. We're talking about 12,000 years ago and a comet.
Can you dress yourself?
>cOmEtS aNd AsTeRoIdS aRe cOmPlEtElY DiFeReNt
no one who has touched a woman cares, sperglord.
>... to anyone familiar with his work.
The Netflix show has introduced many new people to his work.
I was unfamiliar with it. I only watched because of the outrage. Glad I did.
>you don't even understand what is being proven or how.
because you're just mindlessly repeating your claim, without elaborating or providing evidence.
because of these threads, i've read the golbeki tepe site reports and know that graham hanwiener is misconstruing information in order to validate his pre-set conclusion. this is similar to how paulides would omit information from casefiles in his missing 411 series that contradicted the idea bigfoot was kidnapping people with mind control.
>The phrase "black swan" derives from a Latin expression; its oldest known occurrence is from the 2nd-century Roman poet Juvenal's characterization in his Satire VI of something being "rara avis in terris nigroque simillima cygno" ("a rare bird in the lands and very much like a black swan").
>Juvenal's characterization in his Satire VI of something being rare
>something
WHAT THE FRICK DID HE THINK WAS RARE? OBVIOUSLY THIS IS LIFTED FROM A QUOTE, AND YOU HAD TO DELIBERATELY REMOVE THE SUBJECT HE WAS DISCUSSING. WHY IS WIKIPEDIA KEKING ME OUT OF THIS KNOWLEDGE?
the proof is how angry the evil bad leftists are
This but unironically.
>take guns away from the mentally ill
we need to do this though
Mentally ill people can't get guns; yet since people want to "destigmatize mental illness", no one gets admitted to mental health institutions or designated to have a mental illness.
What leftists? What the frick does show have to do with politics?
i don't know, but the shilling is built entirely around the idea that its information ~~*they*~~ don't want you to see.
Leftists are triggered because they've been telling everyone brown people made civilization.
You can see them chimping out in this thread.
you're the only person who seems to be "chimping out."
Nice try. Here's an example of chimping out:
>mocking another person for randomly bringing up covid in an thread about archeology is a chimpout
This post:
is the first time anyone mentioned the virus. It’s a complete nonsequitor and strawmanning what the actual point was. If that’s not a chimpout I don’t know what is
>Leftists are triggered because they've been telling everyone brown people made civilization.
Thats funny because the guy never mentions race, and thinks his mythological lost civilization was based in the Americas.
Why is everyone acting moronic?
because pointing out that graham hanwiener believes an ancient civilization of white people existed before the ice age, levitated rocks with throat singing, sailed the planet on said levitating rocks, communicated globally and with other dimensions with DMT, then was completely wiped out without a trace by a comet that hit the earth and left no crater because it landed in snow, and he believes all of this because it was revealed to him during a drug binge makes people mad, therefore proving that it is true.
>I POSTED IT AGAIN!
see? you're mad at
, therefore it is true
since, apparently, a line of greentext is a chimpout.
Link to your discord?
I don't use discord. They used to make it unusable unless you give them their phone. Someone linked a discord on PrepHole. Now it's unusable unless you install an app. Can't even LOOK at the chat. wtf.
Why do you repeat yourself so much? Your robotic kvetching was predicted:
>The haters keep throwing a fit about stuff that isn't even mentioned in the show. Every thread they can't shut up about their stawmen and ad hominems.
>Makes it obvious the show is correct. They're mad because it's true.
>isn't even mentioned in the show
graham hanwiener has been writing books and doing interviews since the 80s, about his beliefs that an ancient civilization of white people existed before the ice age, levitated rocks with throat singing, sailed the planet on said levitating rocks, communicated globally and with other dimensions with DMT, then was completely wiped out without a trace by a comet that hit the earth and left no crater because it landed in snow, and he believes all of this because it was revealed to him during a drug binge.
ah yes the pasta. there's always this pasta
>IF I POST IT ONE MORE TIME ITLL BE TRUE!
but anons, it is completely true that graham hanwiener believes that an ancient civilization of white people existed before the ice age, levitated rocks with throat singing, sailed the planet on said levitating rocks, communicated globally and with other dimensions with DMT, then was completely wiped out without a trace by a comet that hit the earth and left no crater because it landed in snow, and he believes all of this because it was revealed to him during a drug binge?
if it wasn't true, why would you be trying to slide it so hard?
Like what?
"white people" is an irrelevant modern term; caucasoids with lighter skin than black africans have existed for 10s of 1000s of years.
Currently the estimates for the emergence of light skin genes in Europeans is right around the end of the ice age
>Archeo-astronomy in ancient sites is pretty well accepted now tbh.
I don't give a flying frick what you say pic related is some subjective absolute garbage and it makes the rest of the program suffer for being included, this series was pretty good until they started talking about astrological alignments with shit like pic related as the "proof"
Looks like a snake.
>go on week long drug binge
>play chrono trigger
>think the kingdom of zeal is real
the real reason they're trying to suppress him is lavos is real.
Just watched the first episode, pretty comfy but I can tell he's going to get more insane witch every episode
The scientific community can't even tell what's a woman, how is this senile boomer any less sane than them?
Ive never heard him say they were white, if anything he seems to prefer native Americans and Mayans
>an ancient civilization of white people existed before the ice age
Is that controversial somehow?
So? What more proof do you need libtard?
>They tried to silence him all that time
this is what schizos actually believe
Zoomers only know who he is because he's on Netflix.
Stupid Zoomers, this man has been a joke since the 80´s.
>ancient, highly-advanced white european ice age society is actually responsible for all human progress and achievement
hmm I wonder why ~~*(academics*~~) are against this guy?
How many times have you watched the show?
Halfway through my first watch. After that I'm going to check out more UnchartedX videos. His videos on serapeum were fascinating.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLb1MDIWaJM6n-cjegE-92AYMeUysaeTVw
>omg they don't want you to see this
>so?
>LMAO UR HAING AN ANAL RAGNAROK
>ITS NOT FRICKING FUNNY STOP DENYING POC ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND CALLING THEM ALIENS!!!!!! YOURE NOT BEING A VERY GOOD COMRADE TO OUR INTERNATIONAL BROWN WORKERS
ironically, native americans, indians and middle easterners developed civilizations way before europeans. greeks came late to the oarty and if it wasnt for them, europeans would still be living like Black folk
Of course its the brownoid ESL who is mad.
This guy is a fiction writer who writes about naked slave girls with big breasts.
Into the trash it goes.
>This guy is a fiction writer who writes about naked slave girls with big breasts.
Is that supposed to be a bad thing lmao.
Most of this series goes into archaeo-astronomy and is basically worthless but some choice bits like the cart tracks in Malta that go under the sea are mind blowing.
>the cart tracks in Malta that go under the sea are mind blowing
The huts aligning with sirius star was another huge black swan. Obliterates the mainstream timeline.
>archaeo-astronomy
> basically worthless
LMFAO
Malta is extremely interesting because during the ice age it was much more exposed and easier to get to from both Europe and North Africa.
>LMFAO
Im specifically referencing the part where they draw a line through the serpent mound's tail to somewhere along its neck and say "hey look it lines up" its totally subjective garbage and doesn't hold a candle to some of the other information
>This guy is a fiction writer who writes about naked slave girls with big breasts.
>Into the trash it goes.
Why? An episode like that might redeem the show
>a fiction writer who writes about naked slave girls with big breasts
I've only read Night of the Witches and the slave girls in that has average size breasts
Boy did the producers miss an opportunity when they hired this man.
Spotted the homo
Can anyone give me a quick rundown (main argument and evidence) or is the show only appealing to joe rogan morons incapable of a cogent summary?
his main argument/evidence is going to various sites that have been extensively analyzed and dated by hundreds of people, and saying, "yea but what if they're all wrong and its even older??"
Also going to places that geologists say are natural formations and saying "yea but what if dudes made it"
Imagine looking at an Intel i5-2500k today and having a scientist say that it was discovered 10 years ago and is clearly a natural formation of rock and silicon. You think you're going crazy so you point out that it's clearly man made and surely no one believes that this came about through strictly natural processes. The scientists point and laugh at you and call you a white supremacist. Congratulations, you now know how Graham Hanwiener feels.
if you have to shitpost, at least make up something plausible. this is embarassing
at what point do the drugs kick in?
nordic people created 1st civilizations. then something happened, and now we are left with the fake history that the middle easterns build 1st civilizations
So, WE?
WUZ
VIKANGZ
It's just a bunch of black swans that prove mainstream dogma impossible.
The alternative hypothesis presented is an older civilization being destroyed by flooding, which then shared their remnants of civilization with other tribes.
why did flooding cause them to forget how to levitate rocks with singing?
See:
>The haters keep throwing a fit about stuff that isn't even mentioned in the show. Every thread they can't shut up about their stawmen and ad hominems
>Makes it obvious the show is correct. They're mad because it's true.
There was no levitation in the show. You're currently losing this argument. Try again.
your "argument"
>forget graham hanwiener has openly and directly stated in the past, just focus on what he's doing now.
the guy who made those missing 411 documentaries is a bigfoot cultist, but he knew if he just directly said bigfoot is kidnapping people, he'd be immediately dismissed as a moron. so he carefully talked around all the bigfoot stuff.
graham is doing the same thing here.
>main argument
Mainstream archeological theory is wrong, there was an advanced (in the vein of building monuments and knowing astronomy not finno-korean hyperwar) civilization that vastly predates what is currently considered the beginnings of human society but it was wiped out in a fairly recent cataclysm near the end of the ice age. Something involving a comet strike+ vast flooding but they managed to spread and influence other early humans before getting wiped out entirely. (which is where each early civilization gets their Diluvian myth)
>evidence
Existance of proper stoneworking dated ten thousand years ago, construction that is completely underwater or leads directly into large bodies of water, evidence of massive flows of water in some geological formations in the americas.
>near the end of the ice age
The interesting part of this is more scientific and geological evidence is pointing to the comet impact being the actual cause for the end of the ice age.
>The interesting part of this is more scientific and geological evidence is pointing to the comet impact being the actual cause for the end of the ice age.
I mean the ice age ending with any speed would be cataclysmic in of itself. Whole glaciers retreating and melting over the course of a few years would cause massive flooding as what is arable land and consistent herd migration pathing changes enormously. If anything at all happened to expedite the ice age's end to be within a few centuries to decades rather than millennia we can't really picture what that might do to human habitation.
>Existance of proper stoneworking dated ten thousand years ago
again, graham hanwiener, because he knows nothing about geology or archeology, misunderstood the dating, and took the dating of the oldest parts of the site, as the date of the entire site, that just popped into existence.
The two black swans on Malta are indisputably dated by astronomy and water levels. You're fixated on something that doesn't matter because you think it's a good argument. It isn't.
>Dated by astronomy
coincidence. actual dating puts them about 3000 years ago. lots of greek shit is underwater now.
>The two black swans on Malta are indisputably dated by astronomy and water levels
No they aren't. Those ruts weren't under water in the Bronze Age because there are fricking Bronze Age pits next to them.
>out of Africa has been extensively proven to be a lie made up to make Black folk feel better
>but THE HECKIN CARBONRINO SCIENTIST says that ackshully these cave paintings were made by a pajeet - LOL take that, chuds
Wait until they post the nordic/African mud hut, ignoring the fact they're 20,000 yrs of development apart
>>out of Africa has been extensively proven to be a lie made up to make Black folk feel better
proofs??????????
Tools in Europe, skull in Georgia, jaw in Israel. Shoo, shoo, dishonest sophomore
no proofs huh?
Could you at least say how old those things are supposed to be?
Wtf does out of africa have to do with making Black folk feel better? It honestly has the opposite impression, that Black folk stayed because they were somehow inferior
Why would OOA make Black folk feel better? It literally says all non-Africans are more closely related to each other than Africans.
>we wuz da first humanz
It's like how they're so proud of "black wall st" when it only existed because of segregation
Why does Out of Africa trigger morons so much?
Primitive proto-humans left Africa 100,000 years ago.
How is that a big win for Black person kind?
Its funny how heated this argument gets on PrepHole
>make claim
>proof?
>omg this argument so heated now
Who are you quoting?
>make claim
?
>>omg this argument so heated now
why do rightoids have an aneurysm when you ask them to source their claims? i seriously don't understand it
Spare us.
Proof, evidence, and sources are irrelevant to you pseudo intellectuals anyway.
they only want to hear sources that validate their claims and any sources that counter get labelled misinformation
This is the last book of his I read, it's good tbh. It covers the scientific evidence for the comet impact, and the flood stories from different cultures. I'd highly recommend it. I was able to listen to most of it on a free audio book while working.
>Scientists: Based on the fossil record, carbon dating, and accepted academic norms we have determined the Pontiac Aztec to have been a natural structure formed between the years 1995 to 2005
>"Alt" Scientist: I don't know guys that clearly is a car made by people
>Media: Despite numerous peer reviewed journals and scientist consensus the fringe right wing is still insisting the Pontiac Aztek was built in a factory, is this a danger to our democracy?
it's really telling that you have to make up an entire scenario to argue
>ancient alien theorists: could it have been made by aliens?... it's possible.
>*gets a never ending show on the "History" channel
>be oak island
>have pit
>12 seasons of wasting millions drilling to find bits of wood
>2 spinoff shows
Did they find anything yet? Last I heard they found a coin.
To be fair, it's an interesting theory, but interesting in the sense it's amusing and caught the attention of the boomers who still think the stealth jets and bombers that were tested at a military base are aliens.
I haven't watched the show yet, but have watched all his documentaries and read almost all of his books. Idk the context behind that but clearly just from the single picture it looks irrelevant.
How many fricking seasons now 30?
Frick sake.
You're two sides of the same coin. You accept bad or incomplete research and treat it like it's gospel and you have a fundamental misunderstanding of science while they are simply retaliating against this by throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You can criticize them all you want but people have become anti-science because of the behavior of the experts themselves, not to mention the mainstream misunderstanding and deification of science.
Nobody is anti-science.
The OP show is science in its purest form: black swans. Black swans everywhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory
Some people are. I'm not necessarily criticizing you or all of the people in this thread.
I didn't say they were, but if you want to correct course you need to recognize the fundamental problems that have led people into retaliation so to speak.
>but if you want to correct course you need to recognize the fundamental problems that have led people into retaliation so to speak.
ok, so how do we do that? i think you need to look at the whole paper publishing system and start there. fix the shit system. stuff like OP is just noise that doesn't add anything to the discussion and just distracts
I agree, but to do that you have to acknowledge the problems which many in the scientific community do not seem willing to do. Humility goes a long way both in terms of attacking the problems directly and managing public perception. Belittling and talking down to people who watch a Netflix show and decide to take it as gospel is not the way to go about things. Research publishing is almost certainly where you should start, and I think it's important to be transparent about public concerns like the replication crisis and funding for certain types of research. If you want people to "trust the science" you have to make it trustworthy and admit the right for individuals to make up their own minds when something is blatantly questionable.
i'm not privy to the workings of how research papers get published, but obviously it's a very flawed system with the wrong incentives in place. that that doesn't mean completely unsubstantiated claims are all of a sudden valid
becase when we ask for the same shit you link some biased obvious trash you found on reddit but it has a doctors approval written on it so it must be true, right??
I swear 40 years ago when doctors said cigs and sugar are healthy you would have called anyone a lunatic that claimed otherwise.
>make claim
>proof?
>WHO THE FRICK CARES!!!! COVID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t forget a hundred years ago when the same doctors said radium was therapeutic and totally won’t do shit like leech the calcium out of your bones
>'science' is having a bad year
having worked in 'science' i can safely say that so-called experts don't know a goddamn thing, its a career like any other
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Don't mind me just levitating this thread back to page 1
DO NOT SAY THIS WORD TO ME
SHAME ON YOUUUU
CHICAGO
Weird looking fella.
This guy is a thug and a high-end black market antiquity dealer with NGC as his backup.
>I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF GOBEKLI TEPE
>if it doesn't fit you must acquit
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY EGYPT
>TAKE YOUR TURKEY AND GO HOME
Archaeologist here, just wanted to let you know you're on the right track, we're being forced to hide all e
candlejack claims another vict
do they really kill you if you try to let people know the real deal?
How considerate for your suicider to fill out the captcha and post for you
Instead of seething, archeologists should just make the whole debunk series complete with data and proof. Do an all-out war if they think it's wrong. I'm open to any kind of knowledge lol.
They can't. There is no recovering from a Black Swan.
You can only try to kill all black swans and silence anyone who has seen one. But that's too late now that this is on Netflix.
Graham should dare them to do it. So far they only scream about muh racist white supremacist series, which is kind of moronic in itself if they claim to have superior knowledge on all this.
The problem is there's nothing they can throw at him now that will save their own reputations. They can't salvage the lies they've been peddling.
they can throw his openly stated beliefs that an ancient civilization of white people existed before the ice age, levitated rocks with throat singing, sailed the planet on said levitating rocks, communicated globally and with other dimensions with DMT, then was completely wiped out without a trace by a comet that hit the earth and left no crater because it landed in snow, and he believes all of this because it was revealed to him during a drug binge.
>haha I posted it again!
I'm sure your discord thinks you're brave and stunning.
When that frick did he say white?!
He never said anything about being white. It's them trying to hurt his reputation.
>I must attack people who are le bad
>graham hanwiener is now le bad
>I must attack graham hanwiener
It's how they work.
This hackfraud became rich and famous from deceiving morons, selling books and appearing in many documentaries since the 80´s.
Now you think he is right and a hero just because few leftwing "archeologists" who want a piece of notability themselves are complaining.
No wonder Netflix are using you like it uses trannies and other weirdos
I legitimately haven't seen the netflix show, I'm basing my discussion off his earlier work.
>deceiving morons
NOOOOOO NOT HECKIN MISINFORMATION, THINK ABOUT THE HECKIN GOYIM
Oh yea it's pre 2022, just not original is what I meant. I think he started talking about the comet impact in the 2010s.
>I legitimately haven't seen the netflix show, I'm basing my discussion off his earlier work.
There´s nothing new , it just drags on.
My favourite of his earlier works is when he claims that Ice age never happened, but the geographical poles of earth shifted and the Ancient Advanced civilization was in Antartica that used to be ice free.
antartica really do be ice free tho
Millions years ago
That Antarctica theory is from Albert Eistein, a lot of people used to think it had validity but the first time I heard it I never thought it was plausible lol.
The pure fact they built huge monuments 1000s of years before anyone else implies they were culturally, practically, and organizationally more advanced than any other group of people at the time.
>The pure fact they built huge monuments 1000s of years before anyone else implies they were culturally, practically, and organizationally more advanced than any other group of people at the time.
I agree they were advanced in the field of carving and arranging rocks and so does mainstream archaeology. I'm just not sure how you get from there to Hanwiener's ideas.
>I'm just not sure how you get from there to Hanwiener's ideas.
I don't know what you mean. His point is human civilization is older than mains tream academia said it was, he's been proven right many times over and gobekli tepe is the newest proof. And I was just about to say this
It was BUILT before the end of the ice age. That implies that civilization was flourishing long before that. They didn't just build it in a day. Plus gobekli tepe isn't the only structure in that area, there are many others being discovered.
>he's been proven right
proof?
>academia says civilization started earlier
>archeological finds show it started later
>Graham proven right
QED, post your pasta again
>if i make a baseless claim and something remotely resembles it is found, i'm right
no
seriously though, why does it make you so mad for someone to point out that graham hanwiener believes that an ancient civilization of white people existed before the ice age, levitated rocks with throat singing, sailed the planet on said levitating rocks, communicated globally and with other dimensions with DMT, then was completely wiped out without a trace by a comet that hit the earth and left no crater because it landed in snow, and he believes all of this because it was revealed to him during a drug binge?
You think him learning from new info harms his credibility?
Making just another outrageous claim is not learning
based
cringe
there's nothing to debunk though
The archaeologist clearly thinks there's a lot to be debunked. If not, why are they so angry?
>The science is settled, just turn off your brain and regurgitate talking points from Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye
yep, until more evidence is found, things tend to be settled.
graham doesn't have or find any evidence.
>graham doesn't have or find any evidence.
It doesn't matter to you that he does.
>make claim
>proof?
>proof doesn't matter to you!
Oh great. an another show and celebrity I need to unconditionally praise to not upset the tourists.
>Insinuating Liberals are the only ones who get butthurt about piracy
Since when have conservatives been advocates for piracy?
covid has dealt the science a true killing blow when people rather believe some shill that can be disproven in like 10 minutes.
All Ancient apocalypse thread is being derailed by someone pretending to be left-right and liberals fighting. It's a breddy amusing phenomenon tbh.
>It's a breddy amusing phenomenon tbh.
you should've seen the bot-ridden trainwreck that was rings of power general, bumping the thread off of page 8 to reply to itself with its tolkien dataset
So we're all proud of being ignorant now?
>So we're all proud of being ignorant now?
Only leftists.
>What you don't believe Hanwiener!?!?!
>Then you must have gotten triple boosted you race traitor homosexual!!!
Why are they like this?
Remember when leftists were wearing masks on Zoom meetings?
It's a point of pride for them (you) to be irrational. Irrationality shows true dedication to the cause.
What the frick does this have to do with Hanwiener?
Connect the dots you midwit
>Leftists were wrong about masks
>Leftists don't believe in Hanwiener
>therefor Hanwiener must be right
This is logical to you?
the only people fighting tooth and nail to debunk the gradual theory, which has all the evidence are atheists and other satanists.
graduality AND the absence of ayyys really put the Copernican principle into a tight spot
These threads aren't fun anymore
just sit back and see the agenda(s)
same shit happened with the missing 411 threads. soon as it was out that paulides believes bigfoot is telepathically kidnapping people with her portal gun, that shit was just dead.
I haven't seen the show, but leftists uncritically accept bad, lazy science and historical revisionism already anyway, so what exactly about this are they having such a fit over?
>Black people built the pyramids
>Black people build the United States
>All races are equal
And so on and so forth
>what exactly about this are they having such a fit over?
It's true. They only accept politically correct lies.
>Hanwiener's son works at Netflix as a senior manager of unscripted originals
another classic rightoid nepotism episode
ATLANTIS IS REAL AND WAS WHITE
ALL HUMANS WERE NOT OUT OF AFRICA, THAT THEORY IS WRONG. WHITES CAME FROM LOST ADVANCED CIVILIZATIONS
JESUS WAS WHITE
EGYPT WAS WHITE
>Carried a cross through a desert
Whoever made this meme doesn't know the very basics of Jesus' story, why should I believe in that?
its amazing how much of ancient history is conjecture-based, it is honestly astonishing, the more you learn about how or why ancient history is said how it is the more you see how made up it all is and based on zero facts whatsoever.
the fact that pointing this out or questioning it results in butthurt equating these people who pieced all ancient history together with actual scientists who work on hard science is laughable it just proves they know nothing about what they talk about
I've not seen the show but I imagine it's what it is about
>Troy was a myth until the 19th century
>Sumeria didn't exist until the 18th century
it's all so tiresome.
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you know pointing out that it triggers you for anyone to say that graham hanwiener believes that an ancient civilization of white people existed before the ice age, levitated rocks with throat singing, sailed the planet on said levitating rocks, communicated globally and with other dimensions with DMT, then was completely wiped out without a trace by a comet that hit the earth and left no crater because it landed in snow, and he believes all of this because it was revealed to him during a drug binge means people will post it more, right?
Did your discord approve this pasta?
i've never been on a discord. why does it trigger you so much when someone posts shit hanwiener has openly stated?
Based Hanwiener. Look how many plebs he's filtering below. I should watch this show.
I didn't understand why Hanwiener was getting mentioned so many times on TV for the first week or so I saw thread, then I saw he has a show on Netflix so zoomers are interested and psuedo intellectual yuppies are mad.
It´s Netflix shills promoting him, pretending it´s somehow controversial
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That's a parody.
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Nice try, troony. Everyone knows it's parodying you.
>no U R
You've been doing this in the last thread and this one. It's too easy to spot your low IQ, psuedointellectual posts that would seem like bait if 2020 election tourists didn't stay here and continue to think they're bashing le fash on the internet.
Hope you kys.
NEW THREAD WHERE?
>NEW THREAD WHERE?
NEW THREAD WHERE?