Physical Fitness for larpers?

Any fatass can pull a trigger, but how fit should I be to be combat effective?
Would following military PFT standards help?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >but how fit should I be to be combat effective?
    Being able to push/pull your own weight, being able to sprint and then shoot without being out of breath. Being able to run flights of stairs with kit/gun, and put down a threat. The guy who puts rounds on target first wins
    >Would following military PFT standards help?
    yes, shoot for national guard level of fitness. 70 pushups, 70 situps, less than 15 min 2 mile run.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >with kit/gun
      So around 40-60lbs?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Start with 15-20lbs, build stamina/endurance around that for a while, then go up 5-10lbs. You don't want to jump straight into 40-60lbs if you're not already built as it's going to risk injury and delay further training. Even trained people can herniate a spinal disc doing too much weight.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hey anon. Thanks for your advices.
          Gonna start with rucking and jogging around with added 20lbs of weight.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            np. trust the process anon. physical fitness is about consistency. do it often, do not injure yourself by doing too much at first. you should seek to be training for the long run, over the course of years, that's when you really notice muscle growth and overall fitness benefits, not just after 2 months (although you will slowly notice progress by then). I remember waking up one day after 2-3 years of training and being built as frick, people complimenting me, etc. it wasn't over night. Good luck

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >trust the process anon. physical fitness is about consistency. do it often,
              This 100%. Don't expect miracles overnight or get demotivated because there's not a huge difference after a couple of weeks. Keep at it and you'll start gradually seeing the results, and then you'll start getting fitter and then doing more and it will become a big exponential increase. Consistency is key.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not always true. At least in my case. I've been with a PT for the last 5 months and I've never been able to do more than 15 pull-ups. I had tried working out a few times before this on my own with similar results and blamed it on me fricking it all up somehow so I went and paid for a PT this go around. Effort doesn't always equal success.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It took me a few years of working out to actually start getting noticeably stronger and bigger. I think your body is still getting used to hard physical activity. Everyone is different. Don't get discouraged. Eat lots of high protein foods, drink lots of water, and get decent rest. Take it one day at a time. Godspeed anon

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >15 min 2 mile run.
      You should really be getting no more than 13 minutes absolute maximum on a bad day

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >yes, shoot for national guard level of fitness. 70 pushups, 70 situps, less than 15 min 2 mile run.
      >just go for the laughing stock levels of fitness bro
      Or you could just get fit and go for 5 miles, 150 pusjups, situps and pullups in 15 minutes, then hit at least 5 out of 6 targets at the 300m range with the M24 while standing.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t. DYEL

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >150 pusjups, situps and pullups in 15 minutes
        DYEL moron these standards make no sense
        >150 situps
        easy
        >150 pushups
        very hard
        >150 pullups
        world record

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >national guard
      >being capable of running 2 miles at all, much less in under 15 minutes

      almost every post in this thread either wildy overestimates or underestimates the fitness level of soldiers which tells me a lot of you turds hardly do any exercise at all except to run up the stairs of your mom's basement to grab more hot pockets from the goddamn microwave

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >national guard level of fitness

      Larp or bait post. Unfortunately there are idiots on this board who won’t know any better and think that most national guard men can run a sub 15 2 minute mile

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Soldiers stay fit because they get paid to be fit.
    I gained 50 lbs after retiring.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Soldiers stay fit because they get paid to be fit.
      >I gained 50 lbs after retiring.
      That's just because you have no self respect. When you have a family that depends on you for protection, keeping yourself in shape is a must. Being a fat slob is not a good model for your children either.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who am I protecting my family from, squirt? I live in a rural area and haven’t seen a darkie in over 7 years.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah I live in a rural area too, then while I was sleeping a few years ago some 6'4 guy started smashing out windows with his bare hands and eventually gained entry. had seconds to react before my family member/dog would have been killed/harmed. Had to shoot and kill him while he was charging them. Training is not even fricking hard, 10 minutes a day of burpees/pushups/squats/pullups/dips is all you need. Again, self respect. I'll be damned if I'm gonna only live here for a few short decades and not be in the best shape possible

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            And then everybody clapped.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          meth zombies

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he’s afraid of other races of people
          Why are white boys so sensitive and afraid? I never understood why they act so superior on this board but then proceed to post milquetoast statements like this.

          Very weird.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You’re just a fat lard ass who has no respect for his own body or health.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lot of guys are only in shape in the military because the work out 4 hours a day. I'm not doing 2 hours of organized PT every morning and then hitting the gym in the afternoon while I wait on notes. Frick off.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          you can get a good workout done in about 30 minutes if you bust ass. dont be lazy

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same. Doesn't help that I don't have some PrepHole homosexual who looks like a lobster shouting at me anymore.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel the ACFT is a better standard despite the slow run times as it actually requires some strength which the PFT did not address. Sometimes youll have to move heavy objects and that should not be discounted

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Army's fitness manual is free on the internet like the rest of them. You can see not just the PT test (sled drag, hex bar DL, leg raise, run, etc) but also the drills and conditioning programs that you're supposed to train with plus diet and planning tips. This is what the Army says is best which I rate as like a B+, as somebody who does personal training and has a CSCS.

    Your training needs to include: resistance training, conditioning, endurance. So lift weights, do high intensity full body conditioning, and run or ruck. For a noob you can do Starting Strength with the addition of 3 sets of chin ups (or lat pull down) on 1 or 2 of your lifting days, 30-60's once a week, and a long walk uphill unweighted (use treadmill) or run once a week. All domains of fitness are mutually supportive. Strong people ruck more easily. Running makes rucking easier. Combat fitness requires back to back high intensity weighted efforts of running and crawling and carrying shit, which benefits from strength and conditioning.

    The most important thing you can do for fitness is educate yourself. The American College of Sports Medicine has position papers online that explain stuff. Read books. YouTube. The only thing that makes military fitness different than other stuff is the need for endurance and high intensity conditioning in addition to strength. This is why the PFT changed to what it is now.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      And to answer your question minimum capabilities for combat I think should be: ruck 10k successfully without giving up, 5 pull ups, bench press 60% of bodyweight 5 times, 1 mile run in 10
      minutes, deadlift 225lbs at least once. These are low standards obviously but its the minimum I think is needed for combat effectiveness in a relatively low-intensity conflict for an average soldier in an average or below average military. You can and should do better but that's the minimum. If you're in an insurgent or defending your property or some kind of US collapse situation then the standards are lower: just ruck 10k, jog 2 miles without giving up, can do a few push ups, and be not-fat. Being not-fat is the main thing.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Endurance is more important than peak performance. A mid fit guy that can hold to his best for months on end eating shit rations and limited sleep and no exercise is much better than a guy that's going to break down because he can't get enough pre-workout powder.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >combat effective

    Well what exactly are you planning for? Effective is a relative term.

    Peak effectiveness would probably be natty af and borderline endurance runner/climber but there will be significant adjustments if you're planning on lugging around heavy shit. I once had a chill PTI who could run circles around everyone all day erry day and lift his skinny weight over obstacles which made him much more useful but most PTIs focused on their arms because it would be effective at impressing other men.

    My overall advice would be to take up climbing/hiking because it's the activity that you will be doing much more of and stresses endurance over power. You can also get a gf who will be about the weight you want to be able to carry and help build stamina, you can get one of those right? Just talk to her.

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