>Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range
Wouldn’t 40 watts not be enough to significantly harm a human?
>Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range
>Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range
Wouldn’t 40 watts not be enough to significantly harm a human?
It's... uuuuh... 40-watt per second of charging.
No that's still to low. Uhu.. MILLIsecond.
Yeah, that's it.
>Hurr the number he says must be the biggness of the layzor beam
40 Watts could be a measurement involving literally any part of the system.
Yeah but which part would YOU consider relevant and named if you had to discuss such weapon?
Come on.
It's a fricking machine describing it though, you moron, so your whole point is bunk.
how? if all plasma guns use the same batteries and have the same output, then the defining feature of significance to a machine database would be how the power is used within the weapon. 40 watts could be equivalent to miles per gallon for all you know, with lower wattage for the same outcome being preferable.
>if all plasma guns use the same batteries and have the same output, then the defining feature of significance to a machine database would be how the power is used within the weapon.
Say that again, but slower, moron.
> and have the same output,
If it has the same output no matter what you put in as energy then it is effectively worthless to put in more energy then necessary. Therefore all of them would have the same input of energy so the big ones would be discarded for being worthless compared to the compact ones with the same output.
>if all plasma guns use the same batteries and have the same output
big If friend
This
We categorize guns based mainly on the caliber of bullet they fire. But just the measurements of the bullet don't really tell you anything about the gun's performance without already knowing something about the bullet.
Its a PHASED plasma rifle, perhaps each individual phase of firing is 40 watts but each shot is actually 1000 phases in quick succession; resulting in 40 kilowatts on target. Nerds have been bickering over this shit for 40 years, there is no real answer. Newer novelizations sometimes change it to megawatts, but the original novelization based on the movie script didn't.
this
watts (power) are only in second, the definition is joule (work) per second.
reason for movie thing most probably is that watt sound tough technic guy.
joule sound neverheard mumbojumbo nerd egghead talk + omelette du fromage.
also there is the laser sight on screen on that very moment.
in 1984 laser were still a novelty straight out laboratories, that very laser sight has to be powered with a cable running under the sleeve of arnold and... was carring 10000 fricking volt (with ridicolus low amperage)
if enormous 10000 volt give milliwatts of power and is so bright, and it's dangerous for eyesight, 40 watt must be such a plenty to pierce armored things (tought someome revisiting the scripts)
If its a 40-watt output laser then the Terminator is essentially asking for heavy ordinance.
>yes, give me this Mark 19 to kill an unarmed prostitute
Based
>watt per second
You could stop someone's heart with just two amperes
7 milliamps is considered lethal.
So yes, 285x the lethal amount should do it.
>7 milliamps is considered lethal
Maybe for hearlettes [chest thump]
A 40-watt laser to the eyes would cause instant and permanent blindness. Totally blinding a soldier would cause more damage to his unit than just killing him outright.
>needs a laser sight
>has to rack the slide before he shoots Sarah
>His over the counter Uzi is automatic
>Kyle one handed shoots a 12 gauge at a car and it ignites into a fireball
Anon just turn your brain off. This movie is the enemy of /k/ autists
>>His over the counter Uzi is automatic
This can be excused with it taking place in '84
Why do morons pretend like the NFA took effect in 86?
It didn't, but new production of transferable MGs was still a thing. Therefore it's more likely that the store would have one.
There was supposed to be a scene where the terminator converted the ar180 and the uzi to full auto and cut the 16" carbine barrel of the uzi down, as it was on the shelf with a solid 10" display barrel. Thats the primary reason for the terminator getting himself into a roach motel. The later scene where he effects repairs to himself and then re-arms was supposed to be the followup. Iirc the "bad smell" was the dead occupant.
>Iirc the "bad smell" was the dead occupant.
Oh, I thought his synth flesh was rotting. I assumed it was necrotic after getting shot full of holes and left exposed for days on end.
NFA doesn't really matter here since he stole it anyway
In the novel the UZI he got at the gun store was a semi-auto one that he converted to full auto using tools from a hardware store.
I read they pulled this from the movie because they didnt want anyone getting ideas
>CAPTCHA: KM0 N0G
>Muh Uzi
Why do people always ignore the fact that he also had a fully auto AR18? The police station shootout is the best bit of the film.
I always just figured he could pull the trigger fast enough to replicate full auto on account of being a machine but honestly that's giving the movie too much credit
For the 80s yeah, probably too much credit to give it.
You can see the AR18 behind the counter in the gun store, he just didn't ask for it. Think there was a cut scene where he takes it after he shoots the guy, along with the planned scene where he was supposed to modify the guns for full auto in the apartment, but it couldn't be done because they would have had to go through the ATF to actually modify guns to auto like that. They didn't want to bother and just procured already-registered automatic guns from some Hollywood film armory or wherever they get their guns from. You could probably just say that the Terminator timeline occurs in a different reality than our own where there is no NFA, especially given that Skynet and early Terminators already existed by the time of Terminator 2. That or some other justification, it's an 80's action movie so there's not a lot of thought meant to be put into it, just watch Arnold shoot up a police station and smile.
its phased plasma so yes
It's plasma, not DC.
If its like lightening then 40-watts would electrocute you.
40 Watts could be the current required to start the reaction, or propel the individual plasma envelopes, it could be the power required to contain the plasma discharges and send them away from the gun without going poof and dumping all their energy into the air, it could be energy required to charge the battery, or the minimum to charge it, which might take days for all we know.
I don't even use light bulbs under 60 watts
40 watts of magnetic containment flux? Given that would be the limiter on a plasma rifle plasma being a slippery mass of charged particles..
More importantly, what is phased plasma?
Plasma that doesn't enter its plasma state until it ejects from the barrel. It would be ludicrous to keep energetic plasma stored in a cell. Instead a more stable (but still pretty fricking explosive) gas is maintained that's energized by the gun's internal batteries. The '40 Watt' portion refers to the magnetic stabilization field that's generated to surround the forming plasma and shield it from dissipation. The plasma itself creates a sympathetic loop with the stabilization field, keeping it choate long enough to either reach its target and expend its energy or collapse once the plasma can no longer sustain the field that 'protects' it, and it dissipates. Keep in mind, 40 watts in this application isn't much at all. Most microwaves run in the hundreds of watts just to heat up your chicken nuggets. This field would be enough to power a carbine at best. That he calls it a rifle might just be semantic, or perhaps dumbing it down for the store owner.
If somehow 40 watts could generate plasma, I suppose it could some damage.
You can generate plasma with less than 1w, but it would be pretty fricking weak.
>that's what she said
>mfw actually saw 45 long slide sans laser sight at a gun store yesterday
ITT: morons don't know the difference between a laser and plasma arguing about energy weapons
Oozi nein millahmetah
phased plasma would mean a lot of heat from matter changing phases.
Is the implication here that there are phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range in the time period? Why would he ask for something that Skynet would know did not exist in the time period?
This was always my question too. Why the frick would he ask some random boomer for a plasma rifle from the future unless glowBlack folk at DARPA already had them or something.
The Terminator appears to basically run a simple check if telling someone the "truth" is acceptable or not, and if it is he defaults to the truth. Basic computer logic made him say something funny by mistake. Like how he responded to the gang with something that was grammatically correct but sounded moronic. In other words the exchange with the gun store owner went like this.
>Anything else you want
>Yes a plasma rifle
>I mean here
>Oh.
Or perhaps databases could be for some unknown reason damaged in nuclear war
Maybe, he as a T-800 has developed a sense of humor, much like the T-800 in Terminator 2 did. And he’s just fricking with a guy he’s about to murder anyway.
Almost like it has to go through a fricking phone book to find the b***h even though someone's address would 100% be something in a database somewhere.
someones address is something that would reasonbly not be known in the future
the date of invention of plasma rifles isn't
>the date of invention of plasma rifles isn't
Why?
because one is important and the other isn't. you might be able to track down some kind of information about some random frick who lived in the 1800s if you spend months rummaging around physical records spread across multiple locations, but information on major inventions in industries is easy to come by, especially since its highly likely that skynet invented the plasma rifle itself or took it from the resistance who developed it post judgement day
How information being 'important' prevents database contatinig from being nuked
>but information on major inventions in industries is easy to come by
Maybe it has something to do with not living after nuclear war that killed more than half of world population?
you are not intelligent
I'm sorry.
reese said they crashed the databases in the future so the machines only knew the city.
which is why terminator might not have known a 40 watt plasma rifle was not available. plus it's funny you autist.
Reese says something along the lines oif they know but they don't 100% know what they need.
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"Energy weapons, often the realm of science fiction, became science fact in the 1970's and were well on their way towards being issued to individual soldiers on the battlefields of the early 21st century. Lasers would prove too fragile and temperamental for mobile battlefield use but they provided excellent aerospace defense systems when adequately protected in hardened and defended emplaced positions. The same could be said for particle accelerator weapon systems. Plasma weapons offered an efficiency of design not available to other types of weapons, especially to the more common, lower technology based projectile weapons. Energy weapons had advantages over the more archaic projectile weapons in that their lethality could be provided with smaller amounts of raw materials.
The advent of plasma gun technology was not new when SKYNET blazed its thermonuclear vengeance across the surface of the planet. Indeed, plans for several different designs of both man portable as well as semi-portable plasma guns had been held by the R&D teams at both General Dynamics as well as Westinghouse years before SKYNET went rampant and these plans (as well as some prototype weapon systems) were present in SKYNET's Order of Battle and Manufacturing (OBAM) protocols. In the Far East, Japan was known to be experimenting with limited applications of directed plasma as a weapon system with their homeland based JDF forces while both China and Russia were expressing increasing interest in high powered energy weapons. Early intelligence reports of long barrel prototypes from Kalishnikov and Dragunov proved that while the Russians were several years behind the Western allies in both energy weapon technology and sophistication, it was a gap that was rapidly being closed by the Soviets."
Source: https://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/plasmaguns.html
Main website: https://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/index.html
its probably shorthand for kilowatts, like a rifle that charges capacitors at 40kW or something like that.
kind of like people say 'calories' when they mean kilocalories
Depends on how it is delivered. It may be be 1 x 1 nanosecond pulse with 40 joules of energy delivered once per second. At which point your peak power is 40 gigawatts, but your average power is 40 watts.
You could squeeze it in as short a time frame as you like to increase the energy, it'll make no difference, because the amount of time is tiny, much like how a spark is thousands of degrees, but you don't even feel it because it's a tiny spark.
That's not true at all. A laser pulse has different modes of energy delivery based on how quickly the energy is deposited. Very high peak power pulses cause an explosion of ablated material at the targets surface that manifests as non-trivial kinetic transfer.
What you are saying is that if you stood in sunlight for an hour it would be the same as standing in a beam of light 3600x as intense for 1 second.
It is patently different.
>40 watt range
Fires at 1 gigawatt + or - 40 watts
There I just fixed it in canon, now shut the frick up
I have a laser in the 50 watt range. It engraves steel, but takes for ever. I'm going to go with 40w is not enough to maim someone. 40KW might catch someone's attention.
It's probably how Americans say "calories" rather than kcal, and the plasma weapons in the Terminator universe use a laser to vaporize a channel so the plasma dosen't dissipate.
>plasma weapons
Why in the frick Skynet even develop weapons that can harm It's own combat units? Because a bunch of starving survivors aren't Tony Stark'ng energy weapons that have the penetrating power that would make a 40mm HEDP blush.
>Skynet
I'm convinced that Skynet has some kind of hard coded ROE's that prevent it from using WMD's, because every resistance base should be getting hit with nukes or nerve gas. Skynet should be using biological weapons, to the point where you'd get shot on sight if you tried to get close to other humans.
>It's probably how Americans say "calories" rather than kcal,
No gun.
kcal is some autistic science boner for overcomplicating everything.
pic related, you gcal morons need to shut the frick up already
>9mm Luger is stronger than 8mm mauser because number big
That's how you sound like.
>Probable response: Frick off.
homie he went for 9mm after. 40 watts is the 9mm of lasers. So yes it wont be enough to significantly harm a human.
This real world lightsaber melted a hand off trying to cut a blaster prop and basically melted right through a hunk of meat. He'll basically cook her to death if it doesn't disintegrate a hole at close range.
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=ey_EjSzKFWQ
embed it
That's literally just mid tier blow torch in a silly package.
>he doesn't realize a lightsaber is just a blowtorch with a containment field to maintain its shape
>Wouldn’t 40 watts not be enough to significantly harm a human?
Perhaps it's the power used for whatever heating system that's actually generating the plasma.
Still seems low but could be some sort of magical future tech.
It's basically the output of a slightly dim bulb.