>Pentagon papers leak
>they claim that the Ukraine's air defenses are almost completely exhausted
>enboldened by the news, Russia launches a bombing campaign
>it's a massive faliure
>loss of aircraft, shotdown of Kinzhals
So, can we now agree that the whole leak was a CIA psyop?
>it's a massive faliure
>can we now agree that the whole leak was a CIA psyop?
I don't think we have quite yet established that exhaustively, let the Russians try again
yeah this. Maybe they read the report wrong. No harm in a second go of it, right?
Devious, anon. I might even say delightfully devilish.
The air defence leak was from early 2023, it only predicted AA depletion in may given that nothing changes. But UA started receiving western system earlier than may 2023.
People still cant fucking understand that not all classified information is in fact true. Sometimes shit is classified not because it contains special information but because it MIGHT contain special information. If you have two spies or informants that give totally opposite information one must be wrong but the statements of both will still be classified. Just because something is classified doesnt mean its reliable or true it just means that its potentially valuable intel and needs to be secured.
Anon you're expecting retards to have nuance.
Does it even need to have justifiable value? Like, is Intel classified when making certain information public could be considered embarrassing or have political ramifications?
Let's say the in the information there is one line that says, Putin likes a certain brand of oatmeal for breakfast.
Now who the fuck would know that? Someone close to Putin, which means that Putin can narrow down who the elak is a LOT quicker. Now you have one of your sources burned over some seemingly innocuous bullshit. Sources of info are just as secret as the info itself
>Let's say that in the information there is one line that says, "Putin likes a certain brand of oatmeal for breakfast."
Now who the fuck would know that? Someone close to Putin, which means that Putin can narrow down who the leak is a LOT quicker. Now, you have one of your sources burned over some seemingly innocuous bullshit. Sources of info are just as secret as the info itself
Fuck me, I cannot type right now
The funny thing is sometimes a project doesn't get classified until everyone assigned to it has obtained their clearance. So you could have a situation where a project is fine to talk about on a Friday but then by Monday that same project has been classified.
The only post that matters. Everyone else stop responding.
This is PrepHole anon. Reasonable posts are to be ignored
I tried explaining this on the literal day of the leak to my 4chan brain rotten friend and he thought I was just lying to him because I have a clearance. You unironically can not get through to stupid people.
This is why we have a republican party.
Because it is funded and run by Vatniks?
Do you have a clearance?
Most DoD employees have a security clearance. Not exactly hard to get.
Hi, retard here, thanks for explaining, you're of very much help.
Also tons of shit gets classified that has no business being classified. I'm guessing most classified information is so boring and uninteresting that it'll make your retinas detach from reading it
Reminds me of that one Valefisk torture game where you have 60 seconds to sift through a handful of 600-page declassified CIA documents looking for some specific little nugget of information on a card you just drew. Stuff like "what was the callsign of the 5th Norwegian ship spotted off the coast of Denmark on April 23rd, 1972?"
I'm still looking for the goddamn game on the Tabletop Simulator steam workshop, I need to force my friends to play it.
if you're gonna say muh context at least note that the document did appear to be something meant to inform and striving for accuracy... again that doesn't mean it is in fact correct.
Or, the information changed, or the information handed over wasn't true, or the information was fabricated or the information was... I mean the reports he posted literally had 'Low Confidence' written on them. That's irrelevant - it is quite possible it was a way to expose Teixeira. Why? Because the guy had been caught taking notes in classified meetings and shit and been told to stop doing that kind of shit. So it is quite possible that they handed stuff over that he could leak and that would be known to be him.
But that's assuming competency and seeing as they suspended his seniors and sidelined others involved I am going with the
>The information was outdated
Also you're assuming Russia is retarded enough to flat out believe this shit.
The FSB is probably the only competent arm of Russia.
>The FSB is probably the only competent arm of Russia.
It's all relative.
Was this real or a hoax someone made as a joke?
Real. Basically retarded FSB attempt at a false flag.
His stepdaddy's reputation got him where he was, because lol old-boy ANG nepotism is real. From what I hear the unit's entire leadership is being absolutely shitcanned over this, so there's that.
Real Russian falseflag arrest.
What's the deal with the Sims 3?
You can make girls kiss each other
Boss say do plant nazi shirt, green wig, and 3 sim cards on suspect. You end up with 3 sims 3 gaems that you can play on your pc. much haha
The the totally legit neo-nazi assassins that were after one of vatmoron propagandist were probably supposed to have three extra SIM cards for their cellphones, to make their communications bit harder to track, but FSB special agent in charge of setting up the very very special operation had quite special education, possibly he may have been even special olympics winner. That guy somehow interpreted 3 sim cards part of his orders as Sims 3.
Those fuckers are always good for a few giggles.
>the fucking biolab photoshoots
You fags don't get it. This was the FSB giving the middle finger to those who ordered them to prepare this retarded op. Osechkin published a letter to that effect at the time. You clearly don't know the first thing about inter-agency and intra-elite rivalry in R*ssia.
>The FSB is probably the only competent arm of Russia
It was the FSB's foreign intelligence department that told Putin that the Ukies would roll over once he kicked down the door.
Meanwhile the head of the SVR (the actual foreign intel service) was stammering and yelping on camera because he knew that shit was going to be bad.
>FSB was given millions to create networks of sympathizers, rebels, turncoats, informants, and allies
>instead they just pocketed the money and lied about everything
>Russians literally thought they'd be welcomed with open arms, and would link up with sympathetic Ukrainian militia who would then be put to the front to look like it's a genuine revolution against a Tyrant
>Russians got anti-tank missiles to the face instead
>The FSB is probably the only competent arm of Russia.
I used to think that too, but they convinced me otherwise.
I think the leak was real but the material of it was artificial bait to find anyone retarded enough to do it
This shit is very plausible as well. Sprinkle some low threat classified info thats most likely wrong to see if you can catch someone suspected of being a snitch.
By retards you mean a discord zoomer in a discord named after a "meme" of nig nog shaking his ass. If that then 100% still can't believe the military doesn't just ban you from using social media while in service or at least on pentagon grounds
Tbh there should be a ban on smartphones on military facilities. They should instead issue simple but secure regular cellphones.
They do, depending on the facility and what is kept there, but they can't stop you from from getting on plebbit or discord when you get home. I just want to know what the fuck this retard was doing in IT when he thought he could cover shit up by deleting the posts in discord. Why are zoomers so technologically illiterate?
As a senior officer of ukrainian Air Defense forces I can attest that that latest attack was the final straw that attrited our AA into nothingness, Pretty much we have nothing to stop russia from just flying their strategic bomber aircraft into our airspace and bombing us into stone age, they would do so absolutely unopposed and would face virtually zero threat. They wouldn't even need EW cover for this final air operation, so they could put all their irreplaceable pilots on strike missions simultaneously. I seriously hope they don't actually do anything like that.
>t. Mykola Porosyuk from Lvov oblast
> t. Ivan Pidorov from St. Petersburg
As much as i like these i have to say that it loses its point when the country mentioned actually uses the term Oblast
Cool story bro
>In the capital of Poland, against the backdrop of strange radiation jumps on the border with Ukraine, large-scale exercises were held to counter radioactive, chemical and biological threats.
Is this true kurwa bro?
Sounds like bullshit
Yeah probably is but why would you need official statement that there's no increase in radiation? Obviously something is happening.
Because people were asking about it after zegroid disinfo campaign
People are were rightfully freaking out after fight in Chernobyl a f zaporozhina NPP last year. It's PAA job to keep in touch with the situation
>Pro-Russian propaganda is once again trying to evoke anxiety in our country. This time, to support its thesis about the false threat of a radioactive cloud, it used a natural physical phenomenon. The increased level of the isotope bismuth-214 is the result of rainfall.
Huh, it's ok then I guess
>who are you quoting, anon?
may I see it?
Link me the salsa.
I wonder if anything besides depleted uranium ammunition could have caused bismuth-214 particulates to be present in rainfall in Poland.
Doubtful. It's hard to generate bismuth-214 and have it last long enough to be detected. Look for bismuth-210, it hangs around slightly longer.
Also, depleted uranium is *DEPLETED* ... the U-238 is greatly reduced, so the products from the decay chain are also greatly reduced. There are several other specific isotopes to look for. If those are detected ... AND ... they are detected in direct proportions of the decay chain ... THEN ... you have evidence that depleted uranium could be the source.
Just because you blow up some depleted uranium does not mean that it decays at any different rate than if it was in solid form. So, a block of (depleted) uranium that's been sitting around would already have had both of its bismuth isotope ratios at zero or near zero every couple of weeks. The amount generated to begin with is miniscule. Burning it in an explosion (non-nuclear explosion) does nothing to speed that process up or concentrate the decay isotopes.
Quick follow-up on that:
If you want to determine if a ammo depot filled with depleted uranium munitions is the source, look for the other isotopes that have a long half-life.
The list would be:
You would be able to detect ALL of those isotopes. And, they will occur in a very specific ratio to each other. Finding Bi-214 or Bi-210 is completely meaningless if you don't also fins ALL of those isotopes. Also, bismuth isotopes decay so rapidly that they will be in vastly small quantities compared to the other ratios, which are effectively set in stone for a minimum of 500 years.
> t. I studied the Chernobyl fallout patterns around the world while earning my degree in Geology. This is how you filter out all the other pollution in the world from one specific source.
Every nuclear bomb that is manufactured has a unique fingerprint for the uranium used in it. If one is detonated, it will take about four hours for the world to know exactly which country & stockpile that particular bomb came from. You can't hide it any more than you can hide a DNA sample.
Easy enought to detect, my university adviser used to do remote sensing for DARPA back in the 60-70s. They almost perfectly determinied how much artificial fertilizer the PRC was using, where, how much, what type and where it came from via atmospheric sampling from planes.
>Also, depleted uranium is *DEPLETED* ... the U-238 is greatly reduced, so the products from the decay chain are also greatly reduced.
This is wrong. Depleted uranium is depleted in terms of the useful (fissile) U-235 and has more U-238. Keep in mind that natural uranium has .7% U-235 and depleted uranium has .3, so there is very little difference between the two unless you are trying to get at the U-235.
It has nothing to do with how radioactive the uranium is, only that its no longer economical to try and separate the isotopes to create enriched uranium. Neither U-235 nor U-238 are that radioactive, even though 235 is significantly moreso, and both are alpha emitters, which skin or paper will stop. You can hold uranium in your hand indefinitely with no ill effects.
Alpha particles are the most damaging though, so if you happen to say, breathe in smoke from burning uranium or from inside a vehicle hit with DU its bad (but its still not all that radioactive).
I also just reread your comment that was simultaneously retarded and intelligent and realized you probably just typed 238 when you meant 235. glasstone and dolan crew rise up
They publish a tweet every single day
Congrats, you bought into zigger propaganda
> The majority of the measurements presented here are NON-VALIDATED DATA. This means that meteorological conditions such as heavy rain or snow, defects in the instruments, electronics or software, or ongoing calibration work can result in erroneous or seemingly elevated values.
>As a consequence, elevated levels appearing on the map, even when present on several nearby stations, CANNOT alone be taken as an indication of actual increased levels of radioactivity.
Even the EU JRC updated their front page with this. I hope you're right anon.
Too fast for human eye anon.
It's a week since the chmelnitsky strike and none of the dozens of monitoring stations in and outside of Ukraine announced any threat. And I'm not speaking about radiation levels since they are heavily dependent on weather. It's not like detecting uranium dust is any problem for a laboratory, especially since it's raining and it all should come down.
Because bunch of retards fell for the russian fake news and were spreading this bullshit creating panic among people.
That's why there was an official statment.
But there was a lot of spam about it from the fifth column.
who are you quoting, anon?
and why are you trying to derail?
achshually, Ukraine might have run out if Russia had kept spamming Shasneeds and Calipers like December, but for some reason or another, they stopped.
But just the threat of running out made Europe express-ship more NASAMS, IRIS-T, and Sidewinders for Buks.
>they claim that the Ukraine's air defenses are almost completely exhausted
nope. Papers leaking isn't a carte blanche for making shit up, subhuman.
>created a radioactive cloud
Cool. But are you sure it was not banana storage instead of DU because those would cause more radiation
>created a radioactive cloud
>Cool. But are you sure it was not banana storage instead of DU because those would cause more radiation
DU is most dangerous to humans in dust form
I'm sure random, relatively small explosion just suddenly turns everything into dust and spreads it into atmosphere
thats kind of besides the point since its not known if there were any DU rods in the explosion in the first place, but DU _is_ at its most dangerous to humans in dust form
Not really beside the point when that is what vatniks claim
do we know what type of missile hit the warehouse?
You say CIA, I say retard trying to impress thirteen year olds on a fucking Minecraft discord.
What a stupid thing to get arrested for
what's going on with this guy btw?
Tbh they should publicly execute him to set up an example
>the whole leak was a CIA psyop?
seems like there are a dozen "leaks" every damn day 24/7/365
wtf are we supposed to think is going on?
Blaming shit on the CIA for every fuck up is selling human stupidity short
shitposting aside, any good chink gieger counter for under $100?
This one is pretty decent, sadly the Ukraine invasion has fucked the export price for both Ukrainian and Russian models that were excellent.
it's not, russians are just retarded. case in point-- the leak had with it expectations for the planned counteroffensive including the time frame but they were still caught off guard
lol they've even been putting it in the news. Counteroffensive soon. Counteroffensive next week. Ukraine ready to launch counteroffensive. Counteroffensive tomorrow.
Normally Russian pilots are like 30 and look 45
Did they already exhaust the current generation?
They just haven't sent this batch to prison yet so they don't have that haunted look
Oh well, soon the ass will be in the ass and all will be right in the world.
We can agree that the leaks were based on old information.
>We can agree that the leaks were based on old information
according to the allegations the leaks are based on information
Actually the leak said that old Soviet/Russian AA systems were running low, but that new western systems were coming online at the same time.
I can't believe so many people just parrot shit instead of taking a look at the leaks that were posted in almost every thread.
you do realize the "reports" purpose is to inform how much crap the DoD needs to buy from ~~*raytheon*~~ right?
Imagine unironically being granted an award for UD awareness after multiple months of leaking TS documents, while currently leaking TS documents and with at least three internal reports on your unsavoury interest in copying TS documents
It’s not an award senpai.
Everyone has to take a shitty little online computer course every few months where you click through a guy saying “DONT LEAK INFORMATION YOU RETARDS”.
If you click to the end, which you’re required to do, the certificate pops up at the end and you can write you name into it and print it out for your supervisor so he can check off that you’ve done it.
Imagine everyone continuing business as usual despite such a wake up call.
>retard has never heard of mandatory completion courses
protip, that certificate only exists so you have proof you have checked the box
also, unless it's a class, or you only have a limited amount of attempts, most people just flick through the presentation as fast as they can and pick the obvious answers/choose at random until they complete it.
The leak was more about the money being siphoned into the democrats pockets but they just used Ukraine as a scapegoat
It wasn't a psyop. The leak was two months out of date and the estimates were based on trends that changed shortly after the documents were made. Russia knew it hadn't been launching drone and missile attacks in March and April at the same rate as they had in January and February, so they should have realized the Ukrainians wouldn't have been expending air defense missiles like before. And even if the trends all held true, the idea that by the middle of May the United States would have done nothing to alleviate a shortage they were aware of in February?
The leaks weren't some Nth-dimension chess move by the glowies. The Russians chanced upon a genuine intelligence leak but fucked it because they are--- well, Russians.
>Ukraine's air defenses are almost completely exhausted
Same as russian rocket forces so it cancels eachother out.
>t. found the redditor
>is also a phone poster
>doesn't even know how to properly t.
Lmao fucking retard
What is even the point of the retarded radioactive cloud psyop
>ahh da ze ukrainian DU ammo dump got hit by a missile strike and now the cloud is heading to Europe!!!! FEAR!!!!!
And? What do you expect to happen? Do you think I'll lobby the goverment to stop supporting Ukraine because YOU blew the fucking Ukrainian depot zigger?
You think i'll go to my regional parlimentary representative office and ask them stop supporting shipments of AA to Ukraine so YOU can blow up MORE DU stockpiles and create MORE clouds??
How did it come through your fucking vodka fried brain that this will result in anything but MORE shipments of air defense systems to Ukraine?
I'm calling for total zigger death
>What is even the point of the retarded radioactive cloud psyop
Same as Europe will freeze in winter. They just hope that people they don't like will be miserable.
Putin is a CIA plant.
Putin has succeeded in destroying russias military, its military arms sales, its gas sales, added Finland and Sweden to NATO and killed its military image
Putin is monke not plant.
im looking forward to them saying that they will retake DPR & LPR only to bumrush crimea like they did in kharkiv
No dum dum, that document was full of assumptions
>SOVIET style AA
>will get depleted soon
>if russia continues strikes at the same rate (actually decreased)
>if allies don't resupply (big if)
>if more western AA isn't introduced
>if if if
See how HABBENING retards can take that and turn it into sensation?
I'm going to call bullshit and I didn't bother to look at any reports of the leaks. I'm going to take a wild guess that is one of the few munitions they have in abundance at this point, it's everything else they need to use on the front lines that's probably stretched thin, but probably because they have to get it to the front lines.
If I had to guess as far as Nato's wider strategy is concerned, they want every opportunity to hit Russia's jets even if the chances of them flying out of safe airspace is minimal, but there are likely the most concentrated air defenses in the world scattered throughout Ukraine right now.
Hell those jets that were shot down over Russia might have been the what they were deciding would be the strongest argument to allow f-16s to start working their way over. They have a chance to actually attain air dominance themselves.
>out of date papers from months ago show a problem that existed
>enemy tries to exploit filled gap
>he admit's its a containment board
>doesnt stay in his designated containment board
by your own words, you're supposed to fuck off and not be anywhere else on this website lmao. feel free to keep adding to the screencap regardless nu4chan gay.
>hey claim that the Ukraine's air defenses are almost completely exhausted
and its true one way or another they cannot supply enough missiles
>the whole leak was a CIA psyop?
no it was definitely true. air strikes against ukrainian positions have increased which could only mean a lack of anti-air
But for who though? Did it really tell the Russians anything they didn't already know?
Why are the chud jannies deleting any and all threads mentioning the capture of Bakhmut? Somehow it's "Off-Topic" now but this somehow isn't? And they do it for free!
Some bullshit invented by a nobody attention whore. Fuck off OP. This board has done nothing but call them fake and gay. It is not a 'CIA Psyop' its a fucking retard bullshiter. The only anons who go one about them are vatmorons and turd world poltard vatmoron lovers