>Pay $4,200 (plus tip). >Get a polymer lower receiver. >Suppressor voids the warranty. >Fire 1 shot

>Pay $4,200 (plus tip)
>Get a polymer lower receiver
>Suppressor voids the warranty
>Fire 1 shot
>Optic glass cracks & thumb snaps from reciprocating charging handle
I just don't get the hype.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >thumb snaps from reciprocating charging handle
    >"NRCH"
    most intelligence SCAR hater

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i only ever heard that from that seal, who also happened to be a manlet who was mag well gripping
      so it's a problem for some

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NRCH
    what did FN mean by this?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Non-reciprocating charging handle

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the virgin boot stock vs the Chad bearded-axe stock

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That thing fricks. Will an RPK stock be a drop in fit on my SAR-1?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is that what it is? I just typed bearded axe stock and scrolled until I found it.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick that. Get an AR10 or a G3/FAL to scratch the 762x51 itch

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So did i just get a stupid good deal on mine or is something different? I paid $2500.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, FN just keeps raising the MSRP while street value stays relatively steady. I just paid $2000 for a 15P (new) and $2400 for my 16S (used, like-new).

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FN hyped it up because they made it to fulfill a SOCOM contract only for SOCOM to decide it sucks dogshit and stop using it, so only LARP-tier outfits (like the US Supreme Court Police) use it now.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Socom still use it to this day. They even tacked on some new variants that didn't exist initially, like the MK20 and that creedmore thing with the three charging handles. Go cope in the corner.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >with the three charging handles
        Qrd?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fire 1 shot voids the warranty
    Here i fixed it.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it really that hard to manufacture SCARs or is it just for the roll mark? I would think that FN would want to spread it out as much as possible after how ubiquitous and successful the FAL was

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hard to manufacture SCARs
      no
      >is it just for the roll mark
      yes
      >spread it out as much as possible
      they tried and failed. now they're trying to recoup as much of their investment as they can, at $5k at a pop.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. SCARs were designed to be cheaper than the M4 as one of its design stipulations, they are cheap enough to military and police that countries like Kenya can buy them, but civilians are charged what they're willing to pay. And you'll note that even at 4k+, SCARs still sell.

      >with the three charging handles
      Qrd?

      The MRGG trial SCAR has a folding charging handle on either side and an AR charging handle at the back.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >even at 4k+, SCARs still sell.
        Source? Aside your ass?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lurking Gunbroker, Armslist, FNforum listings, etc. Even if you cant be bothered browsing old listings, every second hand NRCH SCAR on GB represents one that sold in the last 2 years, IE since they've been over 4k. There's nearly 40 on there alone.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Gunbroker listings are a sales example of survivorship bias. You look at sold listings and see guns consistently well under MSRP, you see active posts near MSRP and they sit unsold. Armslist, FNForums listings typically have caveats, like extra mags, optics, accessories, spare barrels.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hey are cheap enough to military and police that countries like Kenya can buy them,

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>The MRGG trial SCAR has a folding charging handle on either side and an AR charging handle at the back.
        Good fricking lord this thing is hideous

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >imagine having the chance to build a totally new rifle from the ground up to be suited for modern combat and all the attachments necessary
          and then you make something even more convoluted than it's predecessor after being modded

          this is just sad, its so sad morons are making decisions like this

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is it really that hard to manufacture SCARs
      SCAR is extremely cheap to manufacture, even less then AR-15 (that goes for $600).
      AR-15 has milled lower and upper receiver. SCAR has polymer lower (cant get more cheaper than that). And extruded upper receiver, that comes out from the extruding machine half finished.
      Cheaper only can be plastic fantastic G-36 that is made from plastic entirely.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you think the lower receiver is a substantial cost of the production you're moronic. The pressure bearing components (bolt, barrel, gas block) make up the bulk of the rifle's cost.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Might want to read his post again you fricking moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Might want to read his post again you fricking moron.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Might want to read his post again you fricking moron.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You must've gone to school for English with that level of comprehension.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NRCH
    >Thumb snaps
    WDHMBT

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you have to be gripping the gun like a moron to hurt your thumb on the charging handle. just don't do that. I wish FN still made the RCH scar because you can use the RCH as a forward assist.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have one and I like it too. Only morons do that wiener grip over the top of the gun. Real moronic larpers.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a GOOD THING and MY CHOICE that I can't afford a particular gun (that I definitely don't seethe about not being able to afford)

    I love these angry poor threads

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SCAR is good. Not great. You'd have to be a fricking moron to pay over $4,000 for a rifle with a plastic lower receiver and that requires buying more gas tuning parts to have it work halfway decent with a silence (still voids the warranty even with perfect gas tuning).
      >Bro a Toyota Tundra is a good car
      I agree
      >Poorgay, why won't you pay $80,000 for it
      Frick ya mudda

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you're an idiot if you can afford something you like and want, because I can't!
        how long have you been transitioning for

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >B-b-but you're poor
          Call me whatever you want. You'd never catch me paying a $2,000 markup for a roll mark on what should be a $2,300 rifle. Enjoy your plastic fantastic.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You'd never catch me paying a $2,000
            because you cant lol

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Mentions trannies out of nowhere

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is still odd to me that people still associate polymer parts with low performance. I understood it when Glocks first hit just because people had no experience with polymer frames, but we all know how that worked out.
        How many SCAR lower failures due to their material are you aware of?

        As far as tuning a SCAR, yes you have to buy gas ports if you want min recoil, or want soften it up with a high back pressure silencer. They are $8 a pop. If that is stressful for you I think you are in the wrong game.
        Silencing it does not void its warranty, that is a wives tale from a supposed Facebook post. Like virtually every other manufacturer FN disclaims warranting their products against damage caused by modification, silencers included. If your (imaginary in your case) SCAR breaks when shooting it silenced the best course would be to return it to stock config before sending it back to FN. This is the best course for every other gun on the planet, by the way.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Silencer doesn't void the warranty
          >but if you experience any problems be sure to make it look like you didnt use a silencer because the warranty is actually voided
          yea

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >that is a wives tale from a supposed Facebook post
          Also the SCAR manual. But mostly the SCAR manual.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Incredible

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Polymer is fine but I'm not going to pay almost the same amount for entry level machine gun money for one of the damn things.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >requires buying more gas tuning parts to have it work halfway decent with a silence
        as opposed to an ar? lmao
        >https://www.parkermountainmachine.com/product/pmm-scar-1617-stainless-steel-gas-jets/
        is all you need. you spend max $24 for three vents and find which size works for your specific can. compared to ar's people are buying adjustable gas blocks, gas busting charging handles, silencer specific BCG's, and new buffer/buffer springs.
        >https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Compiled-data-on-SCAR-Gas-Jets/24-485774/

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was more offended by the fact that I needed to buy an extended safety lever, extended mag release, and an angled charging handle just to make a rifle that expensive useable. It's the principle of the thing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            are you left-handed anon?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you think I'm some kinda demon? hell no. I just dont have 6'5 alien fingers that can reach the controls, and I didnt like dragging my knuckles on my optic base

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I didnt like dragging my knuckles on my optic base
                this is a valid concern, everything else just seems like you have small hands and are using something other than the a2 grip.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Posted in arg the other day asking this. I was contemplating an SR-25 build (Genesis lower, SR25cartel upper, an LMT DMR stock. The only KAC parts would likely be rail, guts and controls.) or a LMT MARS-H. I don't care about lineage or clone correctness, I just care about the most optimal rifle. Multiple people have told me to just get a SCAR.

    Why would I pick that over this? I know very little about the platform.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't get a SCAR. Just get a DD or an LMT. I wanted an LMT but they can be unobtanium/priced out often, so I got a DD5V4 and haven't looked back. Will likely get an LMT some day. Being able to change the barrel 'quickly' is a nice touch, but for about the same price, you can just buy a second DD5V4 upper in 6.5 and swap them out as you want.
      Could also see about an HK...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not interested in the HK israelite pricing. The LMT stuff is definitely priced out but it's not as expensive as any piece-meal sr25 I could put together. Will likely be my only semi .308 ever - the only thing putting me back is the mono upper, as I've never used one before coming from AR building. One thing I can't figure out is that with the barrel mod everyone recommends (Dwilson compatibility mod so you can use standard barrels) - does the quick change still work?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn right about the KAC... They are the gucciest of gucci, but to us, totally not worth the mark up.

          I don't have an answer to your barrel mod question, but if you reach out to LMT, I'm sure they can give you something. I would assume it would still work. But also, is the quick change worth sweating over?
          The mono upper doesn't seem all that bad to me. It heavier but its probably much sturdier. The only bad thing about LMT I've heard is they're overgassed. Plenty of problems associated with that, but plenty of ways to mitigate.

          I guess it also depends on what you want to do with said .308. Batturaifu? DMR? Range toy?

          I did used to own a SCAR btw, so I'm not talking completely out of my ass.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Personally I'd never buy KAC specific rifles, I just own a few RAS rails. The parts availability scares me away from it and was what made me favor the LMT over the SR25. I just want it for intermediate range shooting, I run a lot of .308 through bolt guns.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yea I think I'd prescribe a DD5V4 or an LMT MARS-H. Consider what

              One thing i've experience is a lot of the merits to the AR-15 don't really extend to the AR-10.
              Square cube law applies here and as a result the bolt thrust on the AR10 is much higher than on an AR-15. Which means you get:
              >harsh recoil
              >violent/inconsistent ejection
              >premature parts wear & breakage
              Not to say that AR-10s are wholly unacceptable, but they aren't as much of a no brainer as AR15s are.
              There's also the issue of parts compatibility: besides the DPMS/SR25 pattern receivers, there seems to be some circumstances where parts that are for the same pattern receiver don't actually work together.
              Because of this, AR alternatives like the SCAR have more opportunities to improve. I do believe the SCAR is the overall best 7.62 battle rifle platform you can buy right now, but it does have its shortcomings. One thing you'll come to notice is there are basically no 'perfect' battle rifles.

              said as well... not really any commonality in the AR-10 world. I do think his green text caveats can be mitigated though. I've gotten my DD5 to shoot rather soft with solid ejection. Thanks superlative arms!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know their reputation has been recently compromised, SIGs AR-10 entry might also be considered.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the S&W AR10 seems good. nutnfancy said it had great accuracy.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think I'm going to go with the MARS-H. Despite getting knocked for some of the QC stuff over the past years I've never been dissatisfied with my LMT stuff. What did you have done to your DD5v4?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A solid choice that you won't regret. I will be eternally jealous until I get my own.

                The only aftermarket I did on the DD5 was a superlative arms adjustable gas block. I was quite unsatisfied with DDs out of box 2 position adjustable gas block. This will likely turn into a riflespeed AGB eventually.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Despite getting knocked for some of the QC stuff over the past years
                Like crooked barrels?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      With the secondhand at $2500 and street price on new guns being in the $3000s the deal isn't nearly as bad as you might think. If you want a modern battle rifle that will hold a group and accept common accessories there's very few options that are actually worth your time, to the point that the SCAR 17 appears as a good option.
      However, there are problems that you need to fix with the aftermarket.
      Really, the only 7.62 battle rifle that fits this criteria that works excellent out of the box is the LMT MARS-H piston guns -- but last I checked, the piston guns aren't on LMT's site anymore.

      Don't get a SCAR. Just get a DD or an LMT. I wanted an LMT but they can be unobtanium/priced out often, so I got a DD5V4 and haven't looked back. Will likely get an LMT some day. Being able to change the barrel 'quickly' is a nice touch, but for about the same price, you can just buy a second DD5V4 upper in 6.5 and swap them out as you want.
      Could also see about an HK...

      The HK417/MR762 is a pile of shit, don't even bother.

      Damn right about the KAC... They are the gucciest of gucci, but to us, totally not worth the mark up.

      I don't have an answer to your barrel mod question, but if you reach out to LMT, I'm sure they can give you something. I would assume it would still work. But also, is the quick change worth sweating over?
      The mono upper doesn't seem all that bad to me. It heavier but its probably much sturdier. The only bad thing about LMT I've heard is they're overgassed. Plenty of problems associated with that, but plenty of ways to mitigate.

      I guess it also depends on what you want to do with said .308. Batturaifu? DMR? Range toy?

      I did used to own a SCAR btw, so I'm not talking completely out of my ass.

      SR25's are also wholly disappointing. Knights QC has also gone way down since COVID to the point they aren't really worth buying guns from anymore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The HK417/MR762 is a pile of shit, don't even bother.
        Elaborate, i was going to pick one up whenever PSA did another blowout at 3k

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          HK hates me and charges more money than I can afford.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just got an XCR-M. Monolithic upper, good and relatively inexpensive parts availability, easy and quick barrel changes. I wanted a SCAR because I prioritize weight — I have a couple Brens that I love and would buy in 308 if they ever brought it here. But I realized if I used an AR stock instead of the OEM stock w XCR I’d be at the SCAR’s weight and save $1500. Also the XCR/Bren controls are the best around and fully ambi.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The charging handle moving was a socom requirement. It has been removed. The large frame gun is reliable and folds down.

    You can build your own and get a superior end product.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The charging handle moving was a socom requirement
      No it wasn't. The requirement was for a charging handle that provided forward assist/silent bolt closure functions, it's just that the FN entrant met that requirement with a reciprocating charging handle. The SCAR's NRCH implementation also meets that requirement.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The SCAR is the best $2000 rifle you can get frequently for $2500 that FN is charging $4000 for.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One thing i've experience is a lot of the merits to the AR-15 don't really extend to the AR-10.
    Square cube law applies here and as a result the bolt thrust on the AR10 is much higher than on an AR-15. Which means you get:
    >harsh recoil
    >violent/inconsistent ejection
    >premature parts wear & breakage
    Not to say that AR-10s are wholly unacceptable, but they aren't as much of a no brainer as AR15s are.
    There's also the issue of parts compatibility: besides the DPMS/SR25 pattern receivers, there seems to be some circumstances where parts that are for the same pattern receiver don't actually work together.
    Because of this, AR alternatives like the SCAR have more opportunities to improve. I do believe the SCAR is the overall best 7.62 battle rifle platform you can buy right now, but it does have its shortcomings. One thing you'll come to notice is there are basically no 'perfect' battle rifles.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no no Youmu, the poors cannot have SCARs

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's the apple of rifles. how else can you barge into random discussions telling everybody they're poorgays and gonna die in muh boogaloo?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    voids the warranty
    >be me, never looked at or cared about scar
    >search scar bolt
    >it's a fricking ar head
    well deserved i say

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The bolt head in the SCAR 16 is 2x the size of an AR head. The thing is humongous. Actually everything on the SCAR is humongous, it's insanely overbuilt; the feedback from the Battlefield Vegas guys shouldn't come as a surprise.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Optic glass cracks & thumb snaps from reciprocating charging handle
    why do you have your optic on the side of the rifle, and why are you holding your thumb on the handle?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the reciprocating charging handle and I never saw what the big deal was by the morons who shit on it all the time. If it’s hitting your thumb or fingers you a moron and should keep away from guns period

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