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Patria NEMO naval got its first order from a real country (sweden) and the production of a finnish SPG is underway, pairing a sisu with the 155k98 gun.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not going to happen and even if it did it would be a pretty bad idea. It would be like a CAESAR except without the whole logistics chain that has already been built around it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's existing truck paired with an existing cannon, logistics chain is already there

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No fun allowed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's not going to happen and even if it did it would be a pretty bad idea. It would be like a CAESAR except without the whole logistics chain that has already been built around it.

      Why? Its 90% of an Archer at 25(?)% of the cost.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man I just love that mortar boat so much. Just imagine doing a covert op in one with a few others, striking at targets deep inside enemy lines by sailing along rivers or the coast, hiding behind rocks and such. And then getting the hell out of there before the first rounds even have had time to land yet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's comfy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That cannon makes my PP hard.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >video says 2+2 rounds MRSI on 2 targets
        >shows 2 targets hit by 1 round each in succession
        I don’t know if I’ve EVER seen MRSI demonstrated. Maybe it’s a marketing lie manufacturers tell just to fit in?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I don’t know if I’ve EVER seen MRSI demonstrated.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          "Simultaneous" means within quick enough succession to be kicked out of the range by NO RAPID FIRE boomers. Few weapons can deliver near instantaneous sync.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Jurmo prototype was just a prototype, it's a great boat but too small for a heavy weapon system like that. Nemo makes a lot more sense on a Jehu class boat (pic related) or when containerized. I believe the Swedes are specifically buying the container version.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Man I just love that mortar boat so much

      It isnt a mortar, its a rifled low velocity howitzer that can fire 120 mm mortar shells that rides of the lands in the barrel.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    155k98 makes me imagine a frickhuge kar98 mounted on the back of a truck lel

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Sweden buys Binnish mortar boat
    >shoots up rando rock in Baltic sea
    >Rock actually belongs to Binnland according to lines on map

    Stop hitting yourself

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Swedish bois can pound my rock all day if they want...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      heteroflexible scand things
      don't worry about it

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The boat seems useless expect strictly for the use of guided rounds. Dumb rounds won’t hit anything due to the instability of being on water.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Except they do due to the system being stabilised. I don't know how rough weather it can handle, but it definitely can put rounds on target in normal conditions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The whole idea is that the system does the guiding, stabilization and gunnery management. The ammo is just regular 120mm dumb mortar rounds.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I haven’t done the math but I assume that even a fraction of a cm deviation will cause the shell to miss wildly compounded with all the other normal accuracy-degrading factors. Is the stabilization system really that good?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know but that's the whole idea they're on what they're selling. At least from the demo videos we can see it handle calm waters. And if the Swedes are interested in buying it then I'd assume it's competent.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'd assume that rather than trying to completely counteract the sea and offer a perfectly balanced platform, the system rather measures and accounts for the movement. Then when it hits that perfect position, it fires.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >t.never heard of stabilised mounts

          is am old video from the 80s.

          They self stabilise because they're pretty much decoupled from the movement of the tank and mounted centrally with the center of mass in the middle, meaning there is very little lateral and vertical force on the barrel itself regardless of how much the tank/boat moves. These used to use gyroscopes to measure changes, and they were pretty accurate even then. These are incredibly sensitive and expensive to manufacture though, there are a few breakdown videos of military gyroscopes you can find online and they're obscenely well designed.
          However modern sensors (accelerometers) and motors are another ball game, they can achieve astounding levels of accuracy on the move, and a computer calculates it all efficiently. They can also account for their own movement speed, as well as the movement speed to the target.
          Even if there is a centimeter of variance in movement of the barrel, it can hold fire for the few miliseconds the motors take until a time where the gun is in a good enough angle to fire.
          Modern accelerometers can be astoundingly accurate, they've only gotten smaller and more accurate since then.
          They're actually really fascinating pieces of MEMS technology, a field that is pretty much taking the world by storm right now.
          A video of these older microsensors can be found here https://youtube.com/shorts/29ifw1AVgcI

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The turks recently made a reference to this but they can't use alcohol so it was pretty amusing. I'll post it if you want

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              post

              • 1 month ago
                caius

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              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >black first frame ree
                comparison pic with the original.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Embrace tradition

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >but they can't use alcohol
              >Turks
              ???

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Uploaded during ramadan. The drink is ayran.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you live in the 1960's moron?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The brownoid cannot even fathom western stabilized supremacy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh the whole sales pitch is fire on the move with MRSI and against moving targets.

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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >weapon stabilization unknown technology suka blyat

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Another day, another CAESAR copy not acknowledged as such.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the production of a finnish SPG is underway, pairing a sisu with the 155k98 gun.
    Muh dick

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Make way for the real king

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's so fricking ugly. I love it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you ever open up the clamshell while the gun is engaged? Or just for reload and maintenance?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm talking from my ass, but I suspect you don't really want to fire that if the clamshell is closed.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Dunno

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Blocks your path

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    impressive

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >CEASAR
    >Archer
    >Zuzana
    >now this shit
    Does every EU nation need its own flavor of big-gun-on-truck?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I mean if you're already domestically producting military 8x8s and 155mm guns then it's not much of a stretch to combine the two into a platform. And with the demand being suddenly so high, there's a lot of incentive.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Patria tried to sell this combination first in 2015 but the FDF bought K9's instead.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The truck one in op or

        https://i.imgur.com/T0Fcm7I.jpeg

        Make way for the real king

        this one?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the OP one
          >155 K 98 Sisu E13TP on an 8×8 platform: In 2015, Patria presented to the Parliamentary Defense Committee the additional manufacturing of the 155 K 98 so that it would be permanently mounted as a self-propelled cannon on the platform of the Sisu E13TP off-road truck.
          >However, the proposal has not been implemented, and FDF acquired 48 K9 howitzers in its self-propelled cannon procurement process in 2017.
          >The cannon's development work has since been continued, and test firings are planned to be carried out in the winter of 2024-2025.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They will likely be ordered by 2030 because that's when the procurement budgeting shifts to land forces. Though I guess much of it will go to replacing the BMB-2's still in use.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          would be cool
          more arty has never hurt anybody

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >replacing the BMB-2's still in use
          Will be interesting to see if we'll try to strike some sort of deal with the Swiss for their fleet of mk. 2 CV90s or if we'll go straight to fully adopting the mk. 4

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        …what? Are they moronic? Are they desperate for SPGs right NOW? Or are these things not ready for production or something?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The howitzer gun itself have been produced from -98.
          There were some problems when firing at 40km with the gun which wasn't disclosed with Egyptians when we sold it to them, which led into couple of sentences handed out of corruption and accounting violation.
          Apparently they did try slapping this on both T-55 chassis (seen in

          https://i.imgur.com/T0Fcm7I.jpeg

          Make way for the real king

          ) and on M109A2 chassis but I couldn't find any image proof of it.
          >So why produce them?
          Jobs for Finnish people.

          As to why, doing this ""now"".
          You can never have too much arty and these things will continue to be bought/produced in batches at a steady rate.
          E.g. we bought the first 48 K9's in 2017, decided to buy 10 more in 2021, and 38 in 2022.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    frick guns, missiles all the way.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    gibsmedat

    t.Greek

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