Palmetto State Armory is making a STG44 clone

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YOU GET A STURMGEWEHR!
EVERYONE GET STURMGEWEHR!

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so its gonna be shit then

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fippity bippity PSA is just as much a vaporware company as HMG.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what have they advertised but not delivered on, not defending, just not sure what you're going for.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          MP5 for one, how long ago has that been promised?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cool, in for a gen 3 after the guntubers do all the beta testing

        so its gonna be shit then

        It'll be released shortly after PSA MP5

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And then after the PSA krinkov

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > big heavy piece of shit
      it was always shit dude.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wasnt the headspace set with lead?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Five generations and it'll be solid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Always has been

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah PSA is a fine company now. you're stuck on memes from half a decade ago. wake up old man, PSA is the future.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cool, in for a gen 3 after the guntubers do all the beta testing

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll be happy to see the gen 1 guntuber reviews in time for 2027.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >same four calibers
    Literally why. Just make it a novelty upper that will work with any AR lower at that point if it's not going to be a straight repro. Basically it should be like an MCX or BRN-180 sold on stylized lowers with wooden stocks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. I understand some gun geeks like having lots of versatility but I absolutely love my streamlined collection of .22lr 9mm 5.56mm 12ga and see no reason to ever get anything else

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same but .22lr, 38spl, 30-30win, and 12ga

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Same but .22lr, .45 ACP, 30-06, and 12ga

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same but .22lr, 38spl, 30-30win, and 12ga

        you two are homos

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same but without the shotgun shit. Love my 9mm moon clips for wheelies

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that means you were never gonna buy a stg clone to begin with.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You aren't the demographic. This is like people saying "well i wouldn't want a watch that didn't answer texts" or "costs more than $1000" or something. You were never in Rolex's demographic to begin with. They don't think about Timex at all, for the same reason a company that manufacturers those weirdo niche .22s for the olympics doesn't give 1 rat's ass what Ruger does with their .22s

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Queers without authentics absolutely seething. Couldn’t be me.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >22 short (1 gun)
        >22lr (2 guns +1 upper)
        >25 auto (2 guns)
        >32 auto (2 guns)
        >9x18 (1 gun)
        >9x19 (4 guns)
        >45acp (1 gun)
        >5.7 (1 gun)
        >7.62x25 (1 gun)
        >5.56 (4 guns)
        >5.45x39 (2 guns)
        >7.62x39 (6 guns)
        >7.62x51 (2 guns +1 adapter)
        >7.62x54r (1 gun)
        >7.5x55 swiss (1 gun)
        >8mm mauser (4 guns)
        >303 brit (1 gun)
        577x450 martini-henry (1 gun)
        >410 (3 guns)
        >28ga (1 gun)
        >12ga (3 guns)

        i really, really, really hate buying ammo and i really, really, really hate that all the guns i want to buy next are not in these calibers.

        anyways PSA is never gonna release this thing; if they do it'll be in stock like twice, and the gun will be a huge piece of shit. The front end looks good honestly, but its a shame that they didn't bother to make the stamping marks on the receiver look accurate which just makes it look like a toy and not even a real gun.

        And then after the PSA krinkov

        psa posted their krink too. Has the type 2 dust cover, AK105 type muzzle device, and black poly handguards like arsenal sells. I bet its a huge POS that will beat itself to death within a few thousand rounds. I imagine we will see that though since it's probably just their stinky AKP shortened up a bit more with a shitty cope combo block on it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It really boggles my fucking mind that they would put so much effort into re-engineering the tilting-bolt/hook mechanism for “authenticity while shooting” just to make everything else anachronistic as fuck.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AR upper STG
      fuck you, no

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because diehard fans are the one that pay big bucks.
      Look at the FG42. They're at $8k now, and they're always sold-out.

      True repros is where the money is, not trying to appease AR consoomers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Look at the FG42. They're at $8k now, and they're always sold-out.
        Are we talking the smgguns FG-42? I was just about to put myself on the list but I thought they were 5500.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are, if you're willing to wait a year.
          If not, they pop up on GB for $8k-$10k now and then.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd imagine the FG42 market is smaller than the WWII enthusiast market as a whole, which itself is probably smaller than the AK market, which is a drop in the bucket compared to the AR market.

        Manufacturers shoot themselves in the foot all the time trying to appease cooooollectors: just look at AoA with their mini-beryls. Spent years getting them imported only to have nobody buy them after the first few batches and now they have to sell them at cost. Same deal with Arsenal when they sold 5.45's.

        Once the market saturates the collectors, you need to have a product that everyone wants to stay alive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >True repros is where the money is, not trying to appease AR consoomers.
        Yeah the target demographic for this sort of thing has no intersection whatsoever with the type of guy who is considering buying a $500 AR. There is no way to market an STG clone to that guy, because he is looking for a cheap AR and an STG clone will never be cheap nor an AR. Of course, the real issue with making it a true repro is that 8mm kurz is a completely dead round, whereas 8mm Mauser can still be found on the market enough to sell something in it like the FG42

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Privi Partisan still makes 8mm Kurz

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I did not actually know that, but now I'm wondering why? How much demand is there actually for this round currently? How many people are shooting STGs? Are there any other guns chambered in it? Has anyone made an 8mm kurz AR yet? In any case that ammo is certainly not cheap holy shit

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There's a locally made STG clone sold in Germany.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well, despite how common they are, there aren't that many cartridges that fill the same shoes - alternatives are:
              >7.62x39
              >300 BO
              Also, there are still new K98K's being chambered in it...for reasons.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Also, there are still new K98K's being chambered in it...for reasons.
                Where? I want one

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I did not actually know that, but now I'm wondering why? How much demand is there actually for this round currently?
              It's in some demand in the Eastern bits of the Middle East and chunks of Africa, there are a bunch of 8mmKz guns floating around in both.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Yeah the target demographic for this sort of thing has no intersection whatsoever with the type of guy who is considering buying a $500 AR
          Now you're getting it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's the point. Them making it in 5.56, 300blk, etc. means that it's not an actual reproduction, and should just be an upper. A real reproduction would be $8-10k and only in 8mm Kurz.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          your probably the fag that unironically thinks this was a cool idea

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fuck you, that is a cool idea.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          An upper won't even resemble an STG; at least this comes close. The area above the trigger is the only egregious aesthetic deviation; the finish isn't great but can be fixed.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            An upper that will universally fit AR lowers, but is also offered with a stylized wood-stocked lower made to look more like a real STG is what I had in mind.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I can tell you have no concept of marketing.

              What is your target segment? AR fags? History fags? Wehraboos?
              You can't convince me that your piece of shit would appeal to any of these people significantly enough to create product.

              That's the point. Them making it in 5.56, 300blk, etc. means that it's not an actual reproduction, and should just be an upper. A real reproduction would be $8-10k and only in 8mm Kurz.

              It was already posted in this thread. $4k.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What is your target segment? AR fags? History fags? Wehraboos?
                Consoomers like everything else PSA makes. The entire point is making it more accessible since it's not an actual reproduction.
                >It was already posted in this thread. $4k.
                For a German parts kit that isn't imported anymore due to Biden's gay ass.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The Mkb42(H) would have been good for this, as is pretty similar to the ar trigger group.... actually why didn't the faggs at HMG just make this instead? They could've just put an AR trigger on it and call it a day, it would have looked a thousand times better than their current atrocity

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah i mean why the heck wouldn't they offer it in a dead caliber that no one uses or makes except one company that charges more than $1/round for the 5 people who actually have authentic WW2 StGs. totally unreasonable!!1!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >with any AR lower
      It looks like an inoperable disease same as glock mags

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because 8mm kurz is so easy to get

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PSA will probably make their own 8mm Kurz ammo soon if their factory actually pans out lol

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A nice money making opportunity is gonna come from snatching whatever stg 44 parts you can get. Plenty of people are gonna want to put as much original parts and furniture as they can. Those demilled wall hangers might make for a nice return

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Idiot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Smooth brain

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, why? Is there some kind of actual demand for this shit? They should be turning out Ruger 10/22 clones for half the prices now that Ruger thinks they're worth at least $300 each.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If they made a bullpup 10/22 that you could takedown without a bunch of screws I'd buy 5 of them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can anyone explain why 10/22's are so damn expensive in Europe?
      A second-hand one will run around €300-€400, while new ones are over €600

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        most likely reason is you gov taxes them heavily upon import and upon sale

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s hard/costly to import guns into Europe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Import taxes and I somehow doubt ruger gives a fuck about euros enough to send enough volume to bring the prices down.
        Tbh just get a bolt 22, most 22 semis aren't that great and the 10/22 definitely isn't worth what they charge these days.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        10/22s are pretty crappy anyway, just buy CZ or something

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes, it's the most badass rifle every made. We deserve a quality, affordable repo. If Nazi Germany could churn them out by the thousands America in 2023 should have them as well.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just make it in 7.62x39 holy shit. I don't care about the internals just make it look like an STG

      The problem is that stamping has a high up front investment and a low per-unit cost. When you try to make a gun built for stamping by milling it, you might have low set up costs, but you will inevitably use more material and time. Since American consumers aren't inclined to pay 1000$ for what is essentially a novelty enthisiast gun, much less 3500€, these aren't sold in America anymore.

      922 is a motherfucker, to import them in and to tool up the needed parts will inflate the rifle to 6k a pop. Which yeah there is a market but for anything north of 2K will be a niche market

      There is a demand for these.
      The imported kits sold out within one week for $4k a pop WITHOUT a barrel included.

      You braindead AR gays just can't comprehend why people would want something other than an AR.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro, the chud market is YUGE.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FUCK YES.

    Now I don't have to wait on that fat fuck at HMG

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Wait" implies there will be a result. The HMG-44 will come out around the time Blockbuster makes a triumphant return.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Give it about 10 more years for streaming to be further fragmented and it ends up costing $120/month to have the same catalogue as 2016 Netflix.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was gonna say 'Did they buy out Hill&Mac', and apparently it looks like it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weren't they supposed to start making ammo too?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't know anything about it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are making ammo already

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it in 300blk?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    BigC

    They need to quit fucking around and make a belt fed ar upper

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it'll never happen, PTR failed, HMG failed, Palmetto will fail, its literally a cursed design that makes it so no one but the germans who make a 22lr copy can do it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget the Germans who make an authentic 8mm kurz copy
      Kinda weird though. A small German company can make them even though the market is relatively small, yet no American company does even though the demand is huge?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i dunno what the deal is there, maybe ptr and hmg are/were just giga tards but it baffles me that that is a thing, so are gsg 22s but multiple us companies have fucked up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A company in Kentucky has been importing parts for these for a while now, including flats and jigs to build your own receivers,
        but still haven't successfully imported complete rifles/pistols.
        I think they were trying to import them, but it's been stuck in ATF approval hell.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I got lucky with my kit.

          The problem is that stamping has a high up front investment and a low per-unit cost. When you try to make a gun built for stamping by milling it, you might have low set up costs, but you will inevitably use more material and time. Since American consumers aren't inclined to pay 1000$ for what is essentially a novelty enthisiast gun, much less 3500€, these aren't sold in America anymore.

          The ones in Germany are made on original ww2 tooling.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Have you built it yet?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The ones in Germany are made on original ww2 tooling.
            Then the logical solution would be to import those in the US, problem solved.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Atf and German export laws have made it difficult to import in mass . PTR imported a few complete guns that now sell for over 10k and some guy gets a few kits once in a while but it's been hard getting more than a few approved at a time

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see. Stupid laws strike again.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/iZv7tPY.jpg

          I got lucky with my kit.
          [...]
          The ones in Germany are made on original ww2 tooling.

          >a company in Kentucky
          WHO?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            DK production group, you can already buy STG44(BD44) and MP38 kits from them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You see the problem is that Americans can only read English so we don't know how to read the German blueprints.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is that stamping has a high up front investment and a low per-unit cost. When you try to make a gun built for stamping by milling it, you might have low set up costs, but you will inevitably use more material and time. Since American consumers aren't inclined to pay 1000$ for what is essentially a novelty enthisiast gun, much less 3500€, these aren't sold in America anymore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >demand is huge
        Nah, just a few noisy wehraboos. That's the reason these never come out, they finally do a cost-benefit analysis at the price they need for a reasonable breakeven point and realize they're fucked before they even start.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well the German company seems to be doing fine. If there is enough demand in Europe then surely there is enough demand in the US

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            922 is a motherfucker, to import them in and to tool up the needed parts will inflate the rifle to 6k a pop. Which yeah there is a market but for anything north of 2K will be a niche market

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >We think like this here
            >You must think like this there
            Not necessarily. Very different cultures between the European nations and the US, and also extremely different access to modern arms.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Euros are accustomed to paying far more for a gun than most Americans. Imagine if a glock was $2000, and that the absolute floor on a striker fire gun like a Taurus g2c was $1799. Suddenly you see why a lot of the super nice euro guns are often extraordinarily expensive. Their culture just is normalized for it, but that also means that you can get by on extremely small numbers of expensive guns, as opposed to America where there's about as many guns as people, so there is much more pressure on having guns be cheap as possible.

        It can't compete in a market where an AR is $500. It CAN compete where it costs say $2000, and an AR costs $1900, and a 5.56 is around $1 a bullet. Because at that point you are selling either one as a niche middle class toy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's a lot of wisdom in this post. I'm a deprived Ausfag and my gun safe contains a $2000USD cucked straightpull that's vaguely AR-shaped, a German P226 X5, a P210, a $3500USD .308 and a few nichey milsurps because "affordable" shit isn't that much cheaper.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >demand is huge
        highly debatable.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this
          and even then, most of the people who want it won't be able to afford one over $1000

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >yet no American company does even though the demand is huge?
        Correction, the demand for a vaguely STG shaped AR is huge. The demand for an authentic STG clone that doesn't do stupid shit like use STANAG mags or G3 trigger packs? Orders of magnitude smaller.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the demand for a vaguely STG shaped AR is huge
          Someone post "it".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          outside of the stanag mag usage how is this an AR?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it'll never happen, PTR failed, HMG failed, Palmetto will fail, its literally a cursed design that makes it so no one but the germans who make a 22lr copy can do it
      This anon has accidentally hit the nail on the head - 4D Chess playing Germans knew when they designed the StG that it would collapse myriad Allied arms manufacturers into the future, giving way to the Fourth Reich. Only (You) can stop the German Menace.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just make it in 7.62x39 holy shit. I don't care about the internals just make it look like an STG

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just make it in 7.62x39
      Why would you want that after Biden's ammo ban? 5.56 is cheaper now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it hurts me so much that this is true. What's my poor SKS gonna eat now?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What's my poor SKS gonna eat now?
          KUSA is bringing more ammo, i still see wolf and the serbs are still going at it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            PSA is planning to make slavshit ammo, wouldn't surprise me if they decide to add 8mm kurz in the mix https://www.sdi.edu/firearms-news-2021-palmetto-state-armory-ramping-up-production-on-russian-ammo-calibers/

            https://i.imgur.com/MseC6wc.jpg

            PSA Slav ammo

            im c*nadian :((

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          PSA is planning to make slavshit ammo, wouldn't surprise me if they decide to add 8mm kurz in the mix https://www.sdi.edu/firearms-news-2021-palmetto-state-armory-ramping-up-production-on-russian-ammo-calibers/

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Also, arsenal makes some good shit that's imported under the global ordnance brand

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Plus the KUSA Azerbaijani imports

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                did they confirm the KUSA stuff is azervajina shit?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                KUSA finally admitted that it was imported from Azerbaijan after they got called out a million times

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's based though? Every AK dude I know loves third world slave labor shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well they kept implying it was US manufactured

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They bought the tooling to make slavshit style ammo in Missouri

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i forgot about them thats pretty recent toyeah
              also i swear aside from serbia proper i saw some stuff from bosnia recently too

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Problem is arsenshit is expensive

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’ve seen it going between 35-40cpr which seems to be the average price for 7.62x39 right now

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Arsenal isn't sending anymore ammo in the near future. The explosion last year delayed order fulfillment and .mil contracts have eaten up their capacity.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                always count on bulgarians to fuck up

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          PSA Slav ammo

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Steel casing. So it's just more imported slavshit. Fucking yawn.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what did you want as a slavshit owner?

              brass case 7.62 ball at 90 cents a round?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, they're making it, they have the tooling.
              PSA already has a ammo plant

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I want to be hopeful but I feel like it's going to grenade my saiga

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i'd almost trust it more, it's all junk really

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well Iv shot thousands of rounds of Tula so I’ll take the same risk with psa ammo

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nice trips. Anyway, buy a shot psak to get your x39 fix. Save the saiga.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > 5.45x39
            woo bro.

            Now make some 5.7x28 please.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Now make some 5.7x28 please.
              Especially since so many companies, including PSA, are making 5.7 pistols.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >5.7x28
              Gay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      300 blk is better and ballistically nearly identical in energy and velocity to 8mm kurz, just with better external ballistics.
      X39 is trash

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >likes 300 blackout
        >called 300 blackout (Russian) trash
        Post room temp IQ

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Russian 300 blackout is 9x39mm you moron.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wat?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I sold my AK and still own a 300 blk but you r dumb. x39 is objectively better

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How'd those paint chips taste champ?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just make it in 7.62x39 holy shit
      But they are?
      >original 8mm
      >5.56
      >.300 blk
      >7.62x39

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy a transferable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'm not buying these pieces of shit but >just spend thousands of dollars bro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cool, first I'll just have to not be poor.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just buy a clapped out 80 year old gun that wasn't made to last in 1943 with multiple reweld jobs already on it for 45K+tip

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >same 4 calibers
    It never should have been more than 2. Just do .300 blackout(literally the modern equivalent of 8mm kurz) and either 5.56 or 7.62x39. The whole reason HMG failed was because they were trying to do way too much.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i suppose Palmetto has a lot of resources so thats why, but given the last 2 companies, PTR and HMG failed, they really should try and keep it simple

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The PTR's we're German imports. PTR didnt do much to make it fail.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The whole reason HMG failed was because they were trying to do way too much
      The reason HMG failed is because they announced and funded it off donation and then contracted a low bidding 3rd party for tooling and parts. Then the 3rd party didn't meet specs or numbers and lolsuits began. They are currently still in court with them over payment of the contract and fulfillment of said contract. HMG was a vaporware company who was inover their heads and didn't have backup capital and was unwilling to finance backup capital needed to finish the product or refund their backers. That being said I think it did a great job at convincing people to never pre order a fucking firearm like its a video game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah
        >t.hmgpreorder customer

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I would make fun of you, but I fell for Garand Fag's shilling and ordered a $2k rifle from Triarc in April 2021 that still hasn't materialized.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ouch, I feel the pain. At least I got my refund before the exodus happened so I lost nothing but about 100 bucks for a STG repro stock set, which I still have squirreled away

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PoSA amirite guise

    guise tell me I'm right their guns are shit eh

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What would it take to convince them to make a lever gun in .357/.44mag?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >First Entry
    I wonder what the other retro guns will be? I'm hoping they make a G43 or a FG42

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My bet is on a PPSh or PPS-43

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >PPSh
        I hope not, It would look ugly as hell with a long ass barrel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mp40 no stock so its legally a pistol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This and the Grease Gun

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Eww no, make it have a stock and long barrel so it's legally a rifle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I heard they were making a Luger PO8 repro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      maybe this? Probably not enough demand for it, but I like the design's legacy and it would be cool to see a modern repro

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a repro on a larger scale than picrel I mean, and in something like .300blk

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seems like what they're doing is buying already developed repros. We could potentially see them buy the FG42 repro from SMG and the BAR (also HCAR) from Ohio Ordnance. I'd personally love to see an M1941 johnson repro or an RSC repro

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >We could potentially see them buy the FG42 repro from SMG
        That would be amazing, I bet PSA could cut the price in at least half.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PSA Garands.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want new M1 Carbines that actually work and new HK-93's. Nobody makes 93's anymore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Century is going to import (real, licensed) HK93s from Turkey soon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my auto ordnance m1 is good, no troubles after 300 rds

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >300 rounds

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Most gun companies know that most people will never put more than 2k rounds through a gun in 10 years so they make their products stay together for that period of time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PTR is supposed to be coming out with their HK 41 clone, which is a 33 that doesn't use snowflake mags

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >EEEEWWWWW https://youtu.be/0e-M7B93Dao

          https://www.ptr-us.com/product/ptr-63/

          What an abomination

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The plan is for PSA to remake almost all of the popular WWII rifles according to their shot show reps.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        On top of the MKE imports, Zenith is going to be making U.S. made HK33, HK33K, and G3 clones.
        They said they probably won't be released until 2024 though.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are the MKE imports confirmed? Some anon claimed they were being held-up due to ATF gayry.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      M1 Garands. They own the H&R roll mark so they can put historically correct roll marks on them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >FG42

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Specter M4

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that I would buy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      G43 has too many unique milled and wood parts to be cost effective in making.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The plan is for PSA to remake almost all of the popular WWII rifles according to their shot show reps.

      Unless it’s the MG34 or m1941 I don’t care.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      M1 Carbine would probably be their next target

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Auto Ordnance kind of has them beat there.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Inland's better.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is M30 based or cringe?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Is M30 based or cringe?
              Cringe.
              M1's belong on a wood stock.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Biggest fear it would be
      >m16a1
      >car15
      >m1 carbine
      >Thompson
      or any other manner of repro's we already have millions of

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Biggest fear it would be
        >m16a1
        >car15
        PSA M16A1s and CAR15s are going to be under the Harrington and Richardson brand, rather than this new "Battlefield" thing. Yesterday, they actually had some 723s available on their site, which sold out very quickly.
        M1 Carbines are probably pretty likely. There's probably a decent market for them, most of the repros are crap, and originals are a little too expensive for most people. PSA has specifically mentioned M1 Garands as something they wanted to make, but I think that's a stretch, especially considering the CMP is still a very viable option.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A competition with Mini14s would be cool, and .30 carbine is something people don’t know they want. I think a huge amount of people who want PCCs, especially the 5.7 ones, would be better off with .30 carbine. Add a few modernized elements like some picatinny towards the end of the barrel and optics mounting options and I’d take an M1 carbine over any PCC for innawoods or anything an AR isn’t suited for

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not holding my breath on PSA making a roller delayed German gun clone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the point anymore when the Turk clones are gonna be cheaper in the end?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't make sense anymore with the turk imports. There's absolutely no way PSA can compete on price or quality now.

        They were originally claiming 'well under $1k', turk guns are like $1500.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >$1500
          PSA is literally selling the MKE imports for sub $1k right now.
          Also PSA made those promises years ago pre-coof.
          Apparently the co-founder of PSA commented recently on ARfcom stating that the PSA MP5 is basically dead in the water.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yea i've been really tempted to pick one of these up. That's a hell of a deal.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because theyre turk, is this a legitimate question?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't make sense anymore with the turk imports. There's absolutely no way PSA can compete on price or quality now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its not a roller delayed gun

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I find it funny that the poorfag AR company has more money to expand and drop cash for R&D then most Gucci companies do. Cheap shit sells.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PSA will become the Ford of firearms manufacturers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >A customer can have any gun they want as long as its an AR 15

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And just like Ford, they now make everything under the sun

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >first entry in the battlefield retro line
    so the m1 garand repro rumor has legs?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’d like to see them make an op rod

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They did hire the autist from Novak Spud to run H&R and their retro line. There's a chance it could be done properly.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how about you start making carry handle uppers since you bought the only company that did you SOUTH CAROLINIAN FUCKS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are actually do long just that, PSA is showing off a A2 clone at shotshow

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        C7 uppers when?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, they will continue making batches of 100 until the end of time, selling out in 2 minutes, AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    palmetto sells american-made ar-15s ready to shoot for less than 500 freedombux, which is incredibly based

    i'm glad to see them branching out and spending money on making shit that people wanna buy, also helps they'll be making ammo in whatever goofball calibers they'll be selling

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think everyone here is missing the point. This IS the HMG-44, HMG clearly failed and sold the rights to Palmetto and won't be making any.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this, the HMG preorders are going to be honored with PSA's version

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >honoring the preorders of HMG
        >new phone who this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just like my NoDak lower was(not)?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I always found repros kinda cheap in spirit. Focus on making new funs instead of imitating old ones.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh yeah man totally I can't wait for *insert polymer framed striker fired 9mm pistol here*

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Oh yeah man totally I can't wait for *insert polymer framed striker fired 9mm pistol here*
        anytime I go to a gun store anymore it's just these, turkshitguns, and the most bottom of the barrel tacky ARs you can think of

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >turkey mentioned

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            my dumbass cheapskate friend bought a turk pump shotgun and the thing broke after about 50 rounds, the bolt just completely unable to close. He's not poor either, so idk why he subjects himself to this.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              turknology is fascinating sometimes

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I need a name for this
                Think it'll take a full choke?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://sulunarms.com/sg-101-semi-automatic-rifle/
                i let you decide for yourself

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.remington.com/industrial/masterblaster.html
                >Who run bartertown?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Out of curiosity, I see the supressor there is called a "muffler", do each of these need a tax stamp or are they actually just registered as "industrial tooling" and don't need it? Kinda like those .22 short powered nail guns or something I guess.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no stamps required. they have some sort of exemption for being industrial equipment. at least that was what the old dude at the local smelter told me years ago

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In federal law, a silencer is specifically defined in terms of "silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm". If it can only be used with a non-firearm, it's not included, no matter whether it's a non-firearm because of how it works (muzzleloaders and airguns), or because it's a tool rather than a weapon (kiln guns).

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Some people just have poor decision making skills.
              >local shotgun club comes into lgs while im working
              >wants a dozen youth 20GA guns to replace beat ass remingtons
              >well we have these CZ pumps that should last you 20 years without issues
              >no I want these
              >he found the cheapest turkshit shotguns we sell
              >I don't think you'll be satisfied with those, we keep having them come back with iss-
              >STOP TRYING TO UPSELL ME YOU RUNT
              >fine fuck it
              >sell him 12 of them
              >3 weeks later 8 of them come back with various problems
              >a few have bolts that won't lock, a couple had the lifter mechanism break, one had the barrel fly off
              He ended up buying out our stock of the CZs. Still a bit butthurt I never got anything resembling an apology but fuck it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I never got anything resembling an apology but fuck it.
                You should have tried to resell him on the Turk shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kek, I was about gone by that point so I couldn't be fucked, but that would have been pretty funny

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you are not the target market
      larpers love this shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd love it if they added revolvers to their line of handguns since Taurus thinks they're a Gucci brand now.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hope they at least use the right alloys and heat treat the oprod and bolt.
    When PSA gets it right, I'll buy one in based 8mm Kurtz (assuming they offer it).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Already said they won't be offering if in 8mm kurz

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what the hell are the "4 different cartridges" then? PSA has said that they plan to offer 4 different cartridges. The HMG options were (supposed to be) 8mm kurz, 7.62x39, .300blk, and 5.56. Surely they won't be stupid enough to scale the STG up for .308, right? How much crack would you need to smoke for that?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe 5.45?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a round that is now hard to find and prohibitively expensive in the US thanks to Russian ammo bans. Kind of unlikely, but who knows what they will do

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a round that is now hard to find and prohibitively expensive in the US thanks to Russian ammo bans. Kind of unlikely, but who knows what they will do

            They should announce models for 5.7x28mm and .38 Super.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't want some grandpa gun, I literally just want a bullpup .308

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Already exists, the MDRX can be chambered in .308

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trigger's gay.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're out there... Waiting for you to buy them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MDR, Tavor, RFB

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can somebody explain why is this shitty design so hard to remake?
    It's been made in bombed out factories in the 40s, what is so hard about making it in 5.56?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Perhaps because we're not working in bombed out factories and it's not the 40's any more?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      with ptr if can barely remember but there was some internal strife and fuckery going on. In HMG's case poor decision making with subcontractors plus ambition outstripping means seems to have fucked them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stamping is hard for small workshops to do, especially when they're trying to reach a large market with a low price point.
      Anyway, the Germans make an exact replica with no problems, so I'm going to chalk it up to American retardation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just the trigger group has more parts than most guns have total, and they're all stamped which has an absolutely gigantic upfront cost to get going and only makes sense if you have guaranteed demand (military contract, established market for civilian sales)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What the fuck

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Misleading post.
        Half of those parts are bushings that are pressed into the stamped receiver.
        You don't knock those out on a regular basis... or for any reason at all.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the point is the cost of hand fitting and pressing those parts is awful, its exactly why the germans never mass fielded the rifle for their whole force. The rifle needs to be simplified a bit to make it make sense to bring back from a business perspective.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Uh, the manufacturer is concerned with assembly, not disassembly. They still need to tool up, source material, produce, and press in all those god damned bushings on the line. All that costs money.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As nice as this news is, remember that this is the same company that has yet to release a standard A1 clone a year after announcing it and two years after buying NoDak. This also is from a company who shits out ARs on the daily, so the odds of releasing a gun that sunk another company who was making nothing else and was focusing on this one rifle is a pipe dream

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't they also buy DI who bought Waffen Werks and they can't even make a good AK?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >PSA crap AK
        a buddy of mine has one of their new 5.45 aks, it's pretty good build quality tbh. It's a better build than his aresenal import. The finish is better, the gun is built in a straight line and the front sight doesn't need to be cranked to one side to shoot straight. I never understood the PSA hate

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >arsenal
          okay I can sorta believe this. recent arsenals blow.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It took a long time for them to get to that point. A lot of unhappy beta testers along the way. I'd never buy gen1 anything from PSA.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I never understood the PSA hate
          Think for yourself and never let the retard mob tell you what is good and what is not good.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I never understood the PSA hate
          They took a page out of Tesla's book and beta test on the consumers. The product will eventually turn out fine...after the third generation.

          Until then, you get stuck in RMA Hell.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's because PSAs are fine but most american gunbuyers got burnt on domestic brands like pioneer, vska, and IO (press s to spit).
          I bought one of their first GF3s and had no problems but you'd have people on the akfiles and /akg/ screaming and shitting their panties about perfectly normal wear marks and then rob ski would have to do a debunk video and PSA torture test and they'd ignore it because the entire population of /akg/ is reddit sysadmins and not actually people that like slavjank or slav surplus or the common man shooting a gun.

          Go figure.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My PSAK gf3 does an okay job. Not 1 moa, but a human sized target gets holes in it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have palsy?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      see

      No, they will continue making batches of 100 until the end of time, selling out in 2 minutes, AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a year after announcing it and two years after
      Still better than Hi-Point.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HELL YEAH

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >4 calibers
    >hmg reborn
    I just want a stg44 clone why do they keep fucking up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because the mindset of
      >they will only buy it if it's in a readily available caliber
      >stanag mags are the way to go, even though they make proper repro steel mags

      is the reason why you will never see a true STG clone

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thank goodness!
    Will remove that logo off the side, but with PPU making ammo

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >HMG turboturd
    God damnit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trying to cash in on the AWP luck

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Muh degreez

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wake me in four years when they iron out all the problems and it's worth buying

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who are these even for? It doesn't look like the same, so enthusiast wouldnt buy them, normies sure as hell wouldnt touch this when 500 dollar ARs are "too expensive" and HMG couldn't get it running anyways, how much could they have lowered the price? 1.5k instead of 2k? Seems like a stretch

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People looking for a neat range toy / unique varmint rifle aka me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s for me. I would love an STG44 larp gun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2k would be doable.
      1500 is very attractive. If they can actually make that they will be successful.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it doesn't look the same
      but it does though. It looks more like a stg compared to that MG34 AR upper abortion

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >STG44 clone
    /akg/

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Weld a pic rail on it so I can stick romeo on it.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't have to be a Romeo7, but still.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There’s only ONE WWII german small arm repro I truly desire, awaken me from my tomb when it is made

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You wont get to use a stock,so it kinda defeats the point tbh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want one, but in 5.7 or .30 tok for the meme

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >in 5.7 or .30 tok for the meme
        this, but a Bergmann-Bayard model 1910 instead

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what is an astra 900

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I nice one is just as unobtainable as a real mauser.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it has a normal AK dustcover
    >stock wrong
    >handguard wrong
    >spacing between trigger guard and magwell wrong
    >clamp on bipod
    my initial excitement is gone and my day is ruined

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bipod and scope on shotgun

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If it looked the part, was like $300, and didn't suffer from turk quality/QC I would buy that shit but it doesn't even look the fucking part. It just uses the same receiver as their other """AK""" shotguns which is disappointing as fuck. And it seems no one imports them, no wonder why. They do have a gay smart shotgun though. Imagine being security and being cared about so little not only are you given not only a fucking Turkish shotgun to do your job, but a "smart" Turkish shotgun at that.
        https://sulunarms.com/online-catalog/

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Imagine being security and being cared about so little not only are you given not only a fucking Turkish shotgun to do your job, but a "smart" Turkish shotgun at that.
          You could always try putting a bayonet on it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can group sabots in 3 inches at 125yards, seeth

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather buy a german BD44 in 7,92X33 kurz

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so would I, where pretell in the US can you find one right now? and no I'm not talking about the uber rare PTR imported ones that are pushing 10k

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That pic
    Rotating AR-style selector not the original push-thru and seperate selector.
    This is the HMG fake-replica replica.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the hmg gun used the HK g3 trigger pack

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want an StG 45

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neat. Don't have any particular want to own one, but it's cool to see older guns getting reproduced.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm waiting for them to make an fg42

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just buy an SMG

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >its real
    >will come in four calibers
    >will be shipping this year
    >HMG PREORDERS WILL BE FULFILLED
    >Regular unit price might be about or alive $2k

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The size of that guy Jesus. Never thought HMG would bounce back

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can't imagine how much stress he's been under
        All that girth is stress eating garbage and cortisol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ad is very fitting

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shipping this year
      >coming from the HMG fat guy
      >the gun is the same floor sample they showed 8 years ago but now with a cringe logo etched on the side

      I'm not falling for that shit again. at least I was able to get my money back years ago

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/EFOtkjY.jpg

      You get a Sturmgewehr
      YOU GET A STURMGEWEHR!
      EVERYONE GET STURMGEWEHR!

      Muh dik
      >tfw hyped as fuck
      >tfw probably won't be able to buy one because Washington is gay and has a 10+ round mag ban

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    mald

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >too pussy to even say dilate
      Need to be 18 to post here

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mald

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What would be the best caliber to get this in? 5.56 or 7.62x39?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      8mm kurz but 300 bo is a good runner up

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >smg-style bolt notch safety for no reason
    WEHRABOO BROS... I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What in the love of fuck?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What in the love of fuck?

      >not knowing that the notch is found on the MKB42

      do you even WEHRABOO?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wasn't that open-bolt though?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, thus the need for the notch

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >psa will literally make a failed clone-incorrect 5.56 stg44 before they bother to chrome line their ak74 barrels

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >MSRP: 2000 United States Dollars
    Yeah I’m not paying that for anything PSA branded

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the Battlefield retro line is going to be old style guns with some modern modifications for ease of production and marketability
    What else do you guys hope they release. I'm hoping for a smol Garand in 5.56.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Could the feasibly fit 10 5.56 in an 8rd 30.06 clip? If so and they shrunk the barrel it'd be the perfect ban state rifle

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Could the feasibly fit 10 5.56 in an 8rd 30.06 clip?
        Putting 5.56 directly into a .30-06 clip wouldn't work. For a clip of comparable height you'd get slightly more than 10 rounds of 5.56, but I was thinking more along the lines of an overall scaled down gun that only held 8 or 10 rounds of 5.56. Between the ban state market and the market for an M1 Garand style gun that was vastly more affordable to shoot, I figure they'd sell a lot.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Between the ban state market and the market for an M1 Garand style gun that was vastly more affordable to shoot, I figure they'd sell a lot.
          Try to get the weight down and offer a model with a polymer stock and they'd also get the market for people who want a lightweight, sleek, and easy to carry carbine. This could actually be a winner for bringing a new rifle design to the market.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    too me it looks like an stg there fore it is
    simple as

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      There are two markets for a gun like this; Those after novelty and those after historic value.
      The realities of supply and demand in the US gun market, and ATF regulations, means that you can't market to just one of these two and still have it be affordable.
      That they managed to hide the modernization so much is pretty amazing.

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TFB just uploaded a video with Hop taking a look at it. Looks like they are planning to do all 4 calibers, including 8mm Kurz.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is Hop a girl
      Just kidding I know he’s a man

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also, he says it will cost "slightly more" than the HMG preorders (which was $1800 IIRC), and they will be "absolutely" launching this year.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How the fuck are they going to fit 8 kurz, 7.62x39 and 556 im the same magwell

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >filename
      kek

      How the fuck are they going to fit 8 kurz, 7.62x39 and 556 im the same magwell

      the HMG guy may have explained it in one of the InRange TV shilling sessions, but my guess would be that the 5.56/7.62/300 all fit the AR-15 magwell, Kurz is shorter so the mag may have a blocker and integrated feed ramp at the front to accommodate it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ok this is epic. I'll be thoroughly impressed if they actually pull it off. Just please get rid of that hideous giant logo on the side of the gun. Nobody wants to buy a "historical" LARP gun covered with gaudy branding or warning labels for idiots about reading the owners manual before use.

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