Over 125 years ago we solved the revolver and eliminated its only objective criticism (gas leakage causing lower power and lack of suppressability), and no one gave a shit enough to continue this design, even though we get meme shit like the Rhino instead.
Will we see a company start to make a gas seal revolver with the rising popularity of suppressors?
>24# trigger pull
Dude lmao
They tried it in vietnam for tunnel rats and it worked frick all, the best most effective way to suppress one was to build a giant fricking shell around they cylinder like the Germans did and it died on the drafting table.
>They tried it in vietnam for tunnel rats and it worked frick all,
I expect a source on the US issuing Nagant revolvers to tunnel rats.
Suppressed revolvers cumstain
Keyword search: "Smith and Wesson"
The QSPR was nothing like the Nagant you tards. It used a piston to trap the gasses inside the case.
Captive piston ammo is a joke from the perspective of anyone who isn't concerned with concealment for assassinations or operating in a confined space. Realistically, ammo would cost a few dollars per round at the cheapest, and isn't going to be reloadable, so just going the NFA route would be much cheaper. Noise level on the Russian stuff can be beat with a suppressed .22 pistol today as well, or in some cases 9mm if you're shooting it through a full size suppressor intended for .45 ACP, as it still ends up being about 125 dB.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160827220808/http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=307&page=2
Not nagants, but:
https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/quiet-special-purpose-revolver-the-tunnel-rats-lost-sidearm/
Thats….frickin immaculate I wish we could buy em now
I thought the US came up with their own snub-nosed revolver with expanding cases to form the gas seal?
I have no experience with Nagants but I read that the reason some of them have absurdly heavy trigger pulls is because they were refurbished with springs that did not fit properly.
The reason the tunnel rat revolvers did not work is because they were just normal revolvers, and they have nothing to do with gas seal revolver technology/engineering.
I personally think it would be really cool if that one suppressed revolving rifle KAC made was produced for the civilian market.
http://www.mythicarmory.com/kac-silenced-revolver-rifle.html
They shoved the cylinder up to the forcing cone to make a better seal and bingo bango metal on metal contact causes issues.
Those were captive piston rounds, not the same as cylinder-to-barrel gas seal systems.
They pushed the cylinder forward to close the gap between the forcing cone. This did not work well with the tolerances on the revolver causing the two pieces to bind together often.
Setting a tight cylinder gap on a S&W is not the same thing as the Nagant system, the Nagant's cylinder actually moves in and out when cycling to engage or clear the extended case mouth with the forcing cone
Yes, and they realized they wanted frick all to do with that and came up with another way to suppress a revolver and it didn't work. That's the entire point, congrats.
Don't forget the uncircumcised ammo
>gas seal revolver with the rising popularity of suppressors?
Or we could just make American captive piston revolvers and laugh at the ATF as they try to explain to the courts why it's a suppressor and a firearm at the same time.
Never heard of this till now. Was this ever utilized in an actual gun? What sort of velocities were there?
Sub sonic. Just like in any effectively quite firearm.
They would just tax you $200 a round and the Trump appointed judge would rubber-stamp it while calling you a terrorist
>even though we get meme shit like the Rhino instead
wish we'd get a proper modern lemat, seeing as how much people like meme guns. The only modern lemat concept I've seen is that frick ugly piece of shit that belongs in devil may cry.