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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the p47 thunderchief was one hell of a air plane.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      been forever since I've played war thunder, but I recall it still getting mogged by messer's when it came to climbing. Even if you spent the first 20 minutes of the match side climbing. The majority of the messers would still be at your level and often there's be one butthole who was also climbing the whole time who's still 200m above you.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The WT thunder meta pretty much always favors low altitude dogfighters. That’s just the way the game modes are designed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Really depends on the players. For example with japs vs americans. If the americans got b8ted into low altitude dog fights, they'd get raped, but if they were smart and pulled off after a dive, they would rape the japs by BnZ the entire round since jap planes are absolute shit at low and even medium alts.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            *high and medium altitdues

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Japs have tons of good low/medium alt fighters not sure what you’re on about.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              you don't really start fighting the really dangerous jap fighters like the KI84s until you get to the superprops in tier 4. Zeroes are terrible at climbing, it's easy to energy-fight them. Too bad the US tree gets heavy boom and zoom fighters way earlier before inexperienced players know how to use them

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Too bad the US tree gets heavy boom and zoom fighters way earlier before inexperienced players know how to use them
                P-39 and P-63 are some of the greatest clubbing machines, specially the Soviet prems. They are just criminally low BR.
                P-51s at 4.0 and under are also shameful thanks to avarage US main using them as lawnmover. I think P-47 shares part of that problem, but it's at least good at it. In air realistic it's often too dependent about your team to tie up those space climbers. If that goes well enough, you'll have easy time zooming at everyone with gorillion of .50 cal.

                according to your average German main every P-47 should be 6.3 minimum and be spawned half a mile below the ground, just to give everyone else a chance. People used to get EXTREMELY cooked over some of the P-47s getting an airspawn.

                >every P-47 should be 6.3 minimum
                Obviously they should be same as Ki-87 and Ki-94-II! Nobody plays those garbage piles, meaning they won't ever go down.

                Apparently there is a plan to make different Battle Ratings for aircraft in ground and air battles. Either it will make US clubbers even better or dump them where they belong

              • 2 months ago
                Yukari

                Got me to reply, here's your (you)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've never had problems with Amerimutt planes in my big dick Axis fighters. Spacefires are the only realistic threat at the same BR.
                Uptiers are a different story you fight planes that beat yours in every category sometimes.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's been half a decade since I played rb but I used to play a lot of japs, we would wipe the floor with allies because jap planes synergies well with each other. You had ki44s that flew top cover and would force everything down, zeros running bait low, and 84s doing the killing. Allied teams needed thier spit players to hard carry the altitude fight, but they usually drop the ball the moment they need to fight something that turns better than them. After that the japs could just force the burgers lower and lower.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Haha oh man wouldn't it be crazy if the nation of the developers had fighters that were primarily better at lower altitudes lol. What a coincidence that would be right lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            We need more maps where the airfields are within artillery range of each other *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              it really boggles the mind how war thunder's matches have hardly changed from the closed beta days

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yaks are only good at killing morons.
          109s are good for killing morons but a good player in a US plane will be able to beat a good player in a 109. You can always bait 109s into a situation where they are out of fuel while you still have 20 min left.

      • 2 months ago
        Yukari

        Yes, P-47s are absolute turboshit right now in the average WT match, their BR is only kept higher because of their CAS ability
        once air and ground modes get separate BRs expect them to drop .3-.7 br each

        Haha oh man wouldn't it be crazy if the nation of the developers had fighters that were primarily better at lower altitudes lol. What a coincidence that would be right lmao

        such a funny coincidence huh?
        >Air RB is just a recreation of the eastern front air war

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          according to your average German main every P-47 should be 6.3 minimum and be spawned half a mile below the ground, just to give everyone else a chance. People used to get EXTREMELY cooked over some of the P-47s getting an airspawn.

          • 2 months ago
            Yukari

            I cannot understand what makes a P-47N-15 4.7 and the OP-109G-2 4.3
            >uhhhh but bro the P-47 is a whole 20 km/h faster on the deck and has 50 cals so the G-2 having literally triple the climb rate and cannons means this is totally ok

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pic
          not even true nowadays, swedes and germans have beaten the russians when it comes to blatantly overpowered Black personbunkers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Axis Chad here, there's always a Shitfire at the same altitude as your Bf109 and he outturns the frick out of you.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/acxGv1C.jpg

          >Too bad the US tree gets heavy boom and zoom fighters way earlier before inexperienced players know how to use them
          P-39 and P-63 are some of the greatest clubbing machines, specially the Soviet prems. They are just criminally low BR.
          P-51s at 4.0 and under are also shameful thanks to avarage US main using them as lawnmover. I think P-47 shares part of that problem, but it's at least good at it. In air realistic it's often too dependent about your team to tie up those space climbers. If that goes well enough, you'll have easy time zooming at everyone with gorillion of .50 cal.
          [...]
          >every P-47 should be 6.3 minimum
          Obviously they should be same as Ki-87 and Ki-94-II! Nobody plays those garbage piles, meaning they won't ever go down.

          Apparently there is a plan to make different Battle Ratings for aircraft in ground and air battles. Either it will make US clubbers even better or dump them where they belong

          Havent played War Thunder since beta days like idk 8 years ago? How are my babies Ta-152 and Fw 190 D-13?

          The WT thunder meta pretty much always favors low altitude dogfighters. That’s just the way the game modes are designed.

          Really? when I played fights were determined at 6000m and up, but that was before ground war was even introduced.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How are my babies Ta-152 and Fw 190 D-13?
            Ta 152H is alright
            Ta 152C is garbage
            Fw 190D13 is garbage

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Fw 190D13 is garbage
              Noooooooo I loved my Dora.
              >Ta 152C is garbage
              Eh it's a cannon truck who could have expected.
              >Ta 152H is alright
              Might reinstall the game for that alone.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        P47s are OP as frick in WT if you aren't a moron.
        I have a 10:1 K/D in the Razorback
        They are basically untouchable if you maintain your energy by getting to 4k.
        If you have patience they are insanely good.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        War thunder is arcade nonsense please everybody stop using it as a reference.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The WT thunder meta pretty much always favors low altitude dogfighters. That’s just the way the game modes are designed.

        war thunder meta favors low alt dogfighters and fast climbing interceptors. American planes are neither of those, and also are the biggest Noob bait faction in air, so attract new and therefore worse players

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thunderbolt moron
      Thunder chief was the F105

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, I....I feel like he already knew that. Unless you knew that he knew and I'm the one who didn't know you knew he knew.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      been forever since I've played war thunder, but I recall it still getting mogged by messer's when it came to climbing. Even if you spent the first 20 minutes of the match side climbing. The majority of the messers would still be at your level and often there's be one butthole who was also climbing the whole time who's still 200m above you.

      How big was it compared to the buffalo?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not MESSER FRICKIMG SCHMITTS
    One job.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The p47 is such a slampig

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ?si=o51JCUYQVvQTSZMm

    Obligatory. Warning: lewd as frick

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3 men per shaft
      MODS

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Big

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      An America-sized fighter for America-sized pilots.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Funny the average American height during the ww2 was 5ft.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy crap the Jug was big. Did any fight over the Pacific? BIG YANK FRICKS SMALL JAP

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Squadron, this is Blyat 1
      > Let’s pass slowly along the monster so that it can swat us out the air

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We gaan

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The nice thing about that plane is the engine, and, maybe, the wings.

    The rest of it just pisses me off

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's because you're gay

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I miss the good (not really) old days when i could actually enjoy war thunder.
    Ofc everything was even more broken back then and Yak-1b could use landing flaps as airbrakes to recover from 900km/h dives and Ki-10 could hover like a helicopter and then accelerate straight up from a hover.

    The video that got me into flying the P-47 in war thunder:

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I remember Italian props basically being able to levitate 20 feet off of terrain back at the start. I cleaned up in Ethiopia hiding in valleys

      • 2 months ago
        Yukari

        if it's actually been that long since you've played, you'd be pretty saddened by the way the Italian prop tree turned out.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Behold, the unknown seal clubber that I never see anyone flying
    >4.7
    >Air spawn
    >Great climb rate
    >Great handling
    >Dive brakes
    >Fast as frick
    >Good armament
    >Untouchable if you don't get roped into a dogfight and keep your speed
    >A squad of 2 or more competent pilots can single handedly win matches
    I think no one flies it because they just look at it's stat card and think it's shit, or they fly it a few times, lawn mow, get farted on, then never touch it again.
    It's my favorite airplane in game and IRL. Love me P38s.

    Imagine the P38K engines on the P-38L airframe. That would be rape incarnate.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Been clean of War Thunder for 2 years now
    Don't do this to me /k/, don't pull me back in. Dear god how I wish there was another game with RB's style of flight model and control but without the grind and boring objective-less mission instances.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same here, clean for about the same time. I've such a desire to play it again, but I know in my head it just pisses me off no end when I am playing it apart from the occasional fun match.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not worth it bro

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    P47D-22-RE and P47D-25 is fricking broken busted, and can solo carry entire games if the enemy doesn't gang on it early on. Every other P47 is dogshit though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      D28 is still awesome.
      The premium M is moronicly OP.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not sure whether I should be annoyed by you ruining a military discussion with video game bs or be happy that there's an actual military equipment thread over Americans praising their moronic gun infested society as good.

    In any case the P-47 is a bit shizo:

    Fat turbocharger and hugefrick engine means good high altitude performance, but in the end the P-51 does the same job for much cheaper.

    Huge radial and size means huge payload and damage resistance as fighter-bomber, but why are you hauling a ton of turbocharger then?

    I'd wish a "frick off, we're going cas" P-47 optimized for lower height and maybe even a fricking rear gunner. Rip out the American brainfart .50s and put 4*20mm (British, or American unfricked, Hispano) in it. Make the Typhoon weep.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tempest would still MOG it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean both Typhoon and 47 are "well we made a fighter which accidentally is great at CAS". The Tempest then is taking the Typhoon back from a fighter bomber towards a pure fighter.

        I suggest the opposite, taking the 47 to something like the German 190G.

        Of course the Tempest did mog the 47, better performance, much better armament. If you optimise even more for cas, that's going to get even worse. But that's not the goal, the goal is to plow a ton of Kraut mud while the 51 does top cover.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Americans praising their moronic gun infested society as good.
      You NEED to go back

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day moron

      And no, the P-51 does not have the same high altitude performance as the 47. What the 47 lacked was range, it is an extremely good high altitude fighter, P-47N fixed the range problems and the clipped wings gave it a better roll rate but the war was already over.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        To clarify, the P-51 was decidedly mid when it came to actual combat performance.
        The reason why it’s so highly praised and was so useful was because it had long legs. And a mid fighter that can escort your bombers all the way over is infinitely more useful than a super fighter that can only be used right next door.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >P-51 was decidedly mid when it came to actual combat performance
          Lolno. It was the absolute cream of the crop fighter with absolutely no equal for about a year aside from the P-47 at a very high altitude.

          440mph with good roll, climb, turn and excellent dive is absolutely terrific. There wasn't a German plane that could match it in any aspect until the introduction of the FW190D.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There wasn't a German plane that could match it in any aspect until the introduction of the FW190D.
            Bf-109K4
            ftfy, doras were rarely used against the bomber formations which the P-51's escorted

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              BF109K was very mid, it could climb and had more level speed than the F/G but nothing else, a desperation project.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Agree. G10 is better than the K4 although I think both are sort of overrated...some people can do very well in them though.
                That entire BR is so fricked it's not worth playing though, you just get on a team of 4 288s, 1 DO335 or a 264 so it's you vs 4 F2Gs.

                109G2 and F4 are the most OP 109s imo

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >109G2 and F4 are the most OP 109s imo
                They certainly were the hottest planes in the world during their prime time historically.

                Only the P-38 could catch up to them and the FW190 during most of 1942, and diving in P-38 was not a great proposition.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >was a very mid desperation project
                homie wat
                it was faster than the P-51D at level flight, had decent firepower and could climb like a rocket, especially the K4's combining C3 fuel with MW50 on the DB605DC
                the 109K4 achieved all the goals set out for it and was in most aspects superior to all allied fighters, didn't really help them all that much due to the worse avarage pilot quality but that's not an issue with the plane

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It wasn't faster than a contemporary P-51 anywhere except at its magic altitude, it couldn't turn, roll or handle well at high speed and couldn't keep up in a dive with US fighters despite coming a full year later than the P-51.

                At least FW190D was a well designed airplane, even if it still got clubbed. The messershmidt wasn't.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The messerschmitt was an excellently designed airplane....
                For the mid 1930's.
                The P51 is a a 1940 design. Massive difference.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, i was referring to the particular model in the specific timeframe of late ww2.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It wasn't faster than a contemporary P-51 anywhere except at its magic altitude, it couldn't turn, roll or handle well at high speed and couldn't keep up in a dive with US fighters despite coming a full year later than the P-51.
                ?????

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >max speed is the same at all altitudes, the magic paper number evenly applies in all flight regimes
                eat shit

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >was in most aspects superior to all allied fighters
                No. It matched allied fighters in some aspects. the chronical limitations of the airframe still remained, for example the lazy, almost freezing of the airplanes control surfaces during high speed dives and the physical dimensions of the airframe that were starting to be too small for further developments. The Bf109 was obsolescent by early 1944, and inadequate by the end of the war.

                You are still allowed to like the K4. It's a great plane.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Im diff anon but it was claimed that

                >There wasn't a German plane that could match it in any aspect until the introduction of the FW190D.

                which isnt true as both 109 and 190 tick the box in firepower alone and Im pretty sure even the poor underpowered, draggy 109 G-6 climbs better at under 23 000 ft or so.

                P-51B 75"hg(even higher than standard 67" WEP power in this test) time to 20kft 6½ minutes: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/eglin-p51b-climb.jpg
                109G to 6000m 5 min 14s http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/me109/Bf_109_G-1_Kennblatt_Flugleistungen.jpg

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >which isnt true as both 109 and 190 tick the box in firepower alone
                If you're the obnoxious homosexual that shits up every ww2 aircraft thread screeching about .50 cal you should preemptively shut the frick up and have a nice day.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I usually write nothing because anons in these threads tend to be more interested at that gay russian game than actual military aviation history

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >P-51B 75"hg(even higher than standard 67" WEP power in this test) time to 20kft 6½ minutes: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/eglin-p51b-climb.jpg
                >109G to 6000m 5 min 14s http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/me109/Bf_109_G-1_Kennblatt_Flugleistungen.jpg
                Yeah, i should've been more specific. A 109F could outclimb the P-51, barely, and possibly outturn it. A FW190 could outroll it, barely, but just like with the Me109 having a slight advantage or area where they can keep up isn't helping much when you're facing an airplane that's broadly superior in other aspects.

                Fw190's wienerpit automation was pretty cool, though. It did reduce pilot workload quite a bit. If the Germans used older wienerpits akin to those from other nations their loss of experienced pilots would've likely been an even more pronounced effect.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What the 47 lacked was range
        which was kinda bullshit to begin with, given that AAF blocked drop tanks from the start because "muh bomber dont need no escort"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >clipped wings
        P-47N's wings are longer than earlier variants, they just have square tips because those are cheaper and easier to build. They're the opposite of clipped.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This entire post reeks of arrogantly ignorant Euro stink.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing here that's a bit shizo is you
      >Fat turbocharger and hugefrick engine means good high altitude performance, but in the end the P-51 does the same job for much cheaper.
      It was designed as a high altitude fighter and was better than the p51 at high altitude
      >Huge radial and size means huge payload and damage resistance as fighter-bomber, but why are you hauling a ton of turbocharger then?
      It was a high altitude fighter that happened to also bet good at staffing and bombing
      >africking rear gunner
      moron

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You little b***hes would be sucking Ivan or Fritz's wiener if it weren't for your betters wiping your ass.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    can someone explain exactly why the Americans slaughtered the Japanese in most air combats of ww2? cus like you look at the specs of the aircraft being used and the production numbers and honestly everything seems the same. sure the zeros and oscar's had bad armour but they fixed those problems pretty quickly with the later fighter models. they made nearly 3000 ki84s and those were easily on par with corsairs and hellcats

    hell the Japanese airmen seemed to have vastly more experience in air combat at the start of the war, that must have been a pretty big advantage

    like idk it doesn't really explain why the tide shifted at all, what really happened?

    • 2 months ago
      Yukari

      Japanese and German training programs were terrible compared to Allied training programs. Aces were not rotated as much or as often to teach the noobs. Lack of fuel and ammo hurt training regimens.
      Once the more experienced Japanese and German aviators started getting killed in 1942 and 1943 respectively by allied pilots in better and better aircraft with better tactics it started an endless negative loop until the average Axis pilot at the end of the war was either an ace ten times over or a 18 year old with 200 flight hours, no inbetween

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Essentially, the Allies figured out how to not get suckered into fighting Japs on their own terms (I.e. turning dogfights) and force them into fights where the Allies had the advantage. This resulted in the deaths of lots of good Japanese pilots.

      Then, when the Japanese were finally able to build half decent airplanes that could theoretically compete with the Allied aircraft (I say theoretically because the Japanese didn’t have a whole lot of the high-octane fuel needed for maximum performance) they ended up being piloted by newbies and fought against Allied pilots that knew what they were doing.

      And then three Allies made even better aircraft, and it was joever

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Japanese aircraft were horrible. The zero required highly trained pilots to take advantage of its maneuverability, something they sacrificed all other aspects of the plane for, resulting in an extremely fragile and comparatively low performing aircraft. Things only got worse later in the war.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Sure the zeros and oscar's had bad armour but they fixed those problems pretty quickly with the later fighter models. they made nearly 3000 ki84s and those were easily on par with corsairs and hellcats

      By the time they had in any meaningful numbers anything better than Zero that wasnt maintenance nightmare Ki-61 the war was lost. Woefully lacking pilot training programs didnt help. After late 1942 the Allies enjoyes significant advantages in plane quality, quantity, pilot experience and training while the Japanese army and navy kept on infighting. US and UK were economically so much stronger the Japanese never stood a chance to stay in the development race or do anywhere near as well as the Germans did.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ZOOOOM! move it Black folk! Sincerely, Republichad

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