outdoor clothing

I want to buy an outdoor jacket and pants because I only have m81 bdus but I'd like to have something more normal looking for going on trails or with other people, and also they're cool.

I'm thinking helikon tex woodsman jacket and pilgrim pants, are they good?
otherwise for the pants I also like fjallraven barents but they're expensive as shit

I'd be using them for going in wooded areas with sometimes medium to thick underbrush, plains and mud, temperate climate, sometimes it rains, but also go in the mountains where it's cold, I dont care about insulation I just want then as general purpose outer layers, like my bdu is, I put the insulation under them if needed

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i saw your thread on PrepHole but didn't reply to it. i have the woodsman anorak, and it's good. fabric is a little thin, but i can't complain. maybe buy it and stick with the m81 pants

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any guide to clothing in general? all these different types of clothes, hard shell or soft shell, linen, polyester, cotton, wool. It's a bit overwhelming

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      more of an

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      thing these days, they love jerking off about that sort of stuff

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It’s just the layering system.
      >Base layer
      Right up on your skin. You’d want moisture wicking material.
      >Mid layer
      Usually where you go with something insulating, can also act as your outer layer if it’s warm
      >Outer layer
      The layer that needs to keep shit out, and in some cases, breathe as well, so you don’t become soaked in sweat.

      Rule of thumb is your shell is where most of your $ will be spent. Ultimately, it’s all about temperature regulation AND moisture control.
      Wool and synthetics are the main two materials you’ll be looking at. Both have their pros and cons. There’s also wool blends that try to have best of both worlds.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who has regrettably spent upwards of 12,000 dollars on outdoor clothing I'll tell you right now wearing half the shit people shill really doesn't make a difference. It's overwhelming because people make it that way. You could go down to your local thrift store or good will or savers and get something that would work almost the same as a 500 dollar min/maxed jacket you ended up buying because he had a different sized pocket on the right arm than the one you were currently using. The only exception is freeze your nips off deep cold weather gear. Do not skimp out on gear that is made for -40 below.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It’s just the layering system.
      >Base layer
      Right up on your skin. You’d want moisture wicking material.
      >Mid layer
      Usually where you go with something insulating, can also act as your outer layer if it’s warm
      >Outer layer
      The layer that needs to keep shit out, and in some cases, breathe as well, so you don’t become soaked in sweat.

      Rule of thumb is your shell is where most of your $ will be spent. Ultimately, it’s all about temperature regulation AND moisture control.
      Wool and synthetics are the main two materials you’ll be looking at. Both have their pros and cons. There’s also wool blends that try to have best of both worlds.

      Unless you're not doing below freezing shit, this. Merino wool for base layer, some type of fleece for mid layer, and a rain proof hardshell will get you through most bullshit where you're going to be out of doors. Pants can be as simple as nylon and a rain layer.

      The simplest rule for staying warm is stay dry, whether from the rain or from sweat.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Pants made out of nylon/polyester with water resistance are good, underwear and shirts made out of polyester or wool (polyester is cheaper and lighter, wool is warmer), jackets made out of polyester/nylon (hard shells let no water in but don't breath well, soft shells only keep out small amounts of water but breath better, both keep wind out).
      You want a base layer (underwear and shirt, long johns if in cold environment), a mid-layer (normal pants and something warm for your upper body), and an outer layer (hard or soft shell jacket depending on how much rain you expect, potentially hard shell pants if very wet).
      Your mid-layer depends on how warm it is, in a cold environment you want an insulated jacket, in a warmer environment a sweater is fine, you can use both if cold enough, you can use neither if warm enough. Use poncho instead of rain wear if warm but rainy, you won't get as hot and muggy because all the heat can easily escape out the bottom. Listen to your body, if you feel hot remove layers, if you feel cold add layers. Carry a few extra base layers so you can change them out if the ones you're wearing start getting wet.

      Bottom line, you don't want to get wet, either from rain or sweat.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I worked for Helikon-Tex, AMA.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Do you guys offer an actual goretex rain proof shell that isn't the frick huge ECWCS one? Also, why is your US site such dogshit compared to your EU site, and why do you keep trying to force it on us?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Do you guys offer an actual goretex rain proof shell that isn't the frick huge ECWCS one?
        No.
        >Also, why is your US site such dogshit compared to your EU site, and why do you keep trying to force it on us?
        The US site is actually a separate entity started by one of the old guard in the company who moved to the US like a decade ago. He's largely incompetent and they have a tiny warehouse. HQ will probably force him to give up helikon-tex.us for them to do something a bit more professional, maybe.
        helikon-tex.us is a joke inside the company

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, and the second part of the question - warranty & exchanges. Too many problems with the US folks ordering from Poland and then being angry about exorbitant shipping prices for sending their packages back.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    didnt you watch it yet homosexual?

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fr that ain't drippy bruh on god that shit ain't bussin no cap. Look at some Haglöfs, Berghaus, Fjällräven and Arc'teryx jackets if you want high quality outdoors function but also want to look cool.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      and spend 500 moneys instead of 90 for the same thing

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Just scam some zoomer on depop

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The jacket is ok. Holds up well while walking in moderate/thick underbrush. Pockets and side-zippers are really handy. Only big downside is the absolute lack of waterproofing. Rain runs through even during light/moderate showers. Got it to an acceptable level after waxing but still.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah should work fine, I have one of these jackets that blocks rain and has a hood as well. Could easily conceal ammo/armor and carry a pack for hiking/camping. As for weapons, a sidearm or folding stock AR could be concealed easily.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      On hunting lands, private lands, it is normal to be carrying around a rifle or to have one in or on your pack.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There are unissued tan Beyond jackets on milsurp sites. Last time I checked they were under $200

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >that feeling when I can't wear coyote or brown clothes in the woods because old moronic rednecks shoot anything tan and moving year round.
    Fricking sucks, I really want some comfy muted browns.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      safety accessorize

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