I want to buy a stove for my outings so I’m not always confined to wood.
Which ones are good?
My understating is there’s 2 types, gas ones that are cheaper but don’t work well at very low temps and pressures, and liquid ones that cost like 200 euros but they take gasoline or whatever you want and work at low temps and pressures
I have both. I have only used the liquid one when camping in temps below 0F. Otherwise the gas one is just more convenient.
Gas stoves are controversial right now. At least in the United States and probably Europe, there is an effort by people, backed by scientific studies, to replace gas stoves with electric stoves. As one news article put it, 'Why You Should Replace Your Gas Stove With an Electric Stove". If that isn't convincing enough I don't think you should even be allowed to cook, anon. This is science and we're discussing scientific data on this board. Furthermore, it's settled. Settled Science is highest form of science - the next lower level of science is unsettled science, and you'll note the lower case "u" and "s" denoting a lower level. This is simply how science works; it's a fundamental law that can be written mathematically: 2+2=7ish. You're welcome.
Are you retarded I’m talking about outdoors portable stoves not my kitchen
Anon, that was bait
I wonder who will take the bait
thank you schizo ai
>typical isobutane canisters
Pros:
-simple
-convenient
-readily available
-lots to chose from
Cons:
-noisy
-heavier
-need a different stove below 15°F (an inverted stove will work down to 0°F). But you have to be honest and ask yourself if this is really an issue.
>multi-fuel stoves
Pros:
-work with nearly any fuel
-great in cold weather
Cons:
-expensive
-heaviest option
-overkill for fair weather; very situationally dependent
>alcohol stoves
Pros:
-lightest option
-silent
-can be very cheap
-no moving parts or anything to break
-can be a fun DIY project
Cons:
-most susceptible to wind (but it’s got to be pretty darn windy to not work)
-flame is practically invisible in daylight
-slowest option (boil time is just a marketing gimmick)
-can only really be used to boil water
Thanks, which ones are the best gas stoves?
I got a Soto Amicus seems to be basically a Windmaster but for less money the MSR stoves don’t seem very good the newest one just rips off the Soto burner and charges you more money for it.
Amicus is less money because it doesn't have a micro regulator like the Windmaster, which is a big selling point. This is also why it's superior to the MSR rip-off.
MSR is a meme, consider Soto instead for superior jap quality
Soto is Japanese in name only, all their shit is made in China. Avoid.
you could almost get away with pulling that out of your ass, since nearly everyone has manufacturing done in china, but soto stoves are in fact manufactured in japan
i see that now, disregard, cocks, etc
trangia has a simmer ring. I did an easy mod to my evernew DX stand so I can use the trangia with the simmer ring.
Adding to this:
>No cook
Pros:
-Simplest option
-Cheapest
-Fastest
Cons:
-Must be smart with food choices
-Don't get to have le comfy warm meal
you can buy or make really good alcohol or multifuel stoves for like
$0.50 for a basic design or $10ish for a spill proof design with welder's felt
maybe $20-50 cost of entry for buying bulk fuel for it and a few bucks for a spillproof mini bottle if you don't have something you can repurpose
so imo there's no reason not to have them in your kit to choose from if you own a canister style, they all have their time and place.
alcohol stoves in particular, most of the disadvantages aren't a big deal if you get caffeine pills. half hour for morning coffee is the only thing that sucks with them.
The MSR Pocket Rocket has been around a while, so I guess it has staying power. Maybe it’s the brand name, maybe it’s the marketing, or maybe it’s high quality. I used one for years before switching to alcohol. The BRS-3000 is another popular option. It’s cheap and light, probably the lightest of its type.
They’re all pretty much the same, which is why someone decides boil time was a good metric for comparing stoves.
I have the Pocket Rocket 2. The name makes it sound like a sex toy, but other than that it's great. Folds down small enough to stow in my cheapy Stanley cookset, lights up easy.
here you go
soto sells a better and cheaper stove right now. and the quality isn't as nice on the pocket rocket 2 and newer versions. the msr is popular because its pretty good and sold at rei. i only use a pocket rocket 2 over a windmaster because i bought it before the windmaster came out.
you can refill the canisters with a $2 adapter
it saves a lot of money too
suggesting alcohol stoves as an alternative to canister stoves is kind of silly. maybe its different in europe but in america alcohol stoves are illegal to use lots of places and lots of times of year. i'm an alcohol stove enjoyer but its pretty necessary to own a canister.
>maybe its different in europe but in america alcohol stoves are illegal to use lots of places and lots of times of year.
Good lord, do you really follow those rules?
Even if youre hiking out in the woods away from people it's pretty common to spend a night in an area with a park ranger or camp host for a night now and again in order to access water and bathrooms. Pretty nice to still be able to use my stove in that situation.
>alcohol stoves are illegal to use lots of places and lots of times of year.
I don't care
>t in america alcohol stoves are illegal to use lots of places and lots of times of year
no they are not
They’ve banned in at least Rocky Mountain NP for years, and probably all of California, but that’s pretty much it. They’re also banned in Colorado during fire bans. I think the rules there is that stoves must have a on/off switch or something.
Denatured alcohol was banned in California in 2020, but you can probably still buy HEET.
I second the thing about alchohol stoves becoming illegal. It's stupid but they have already been banned in a few states. I have a biofuel stove that I never use because gas is so much more convenient. I use pic related which I received as a gift. One problem I had with my old stove which was this style is that the canister isn't that stable especially heating something heavy like water. The bipod totally takes care of this problem.
that stove looks handy for cooking out of the car boot
PocketRocket deluxe has been my go-to for years. Having to remember where tf my lighter is sucks. It's really not that much additional weight.
>BRS-3000
this is garbage chinkshit, and I'm not just saying that out of hatred for the chinese. I've purchased 2 of these and both warped quickly from the heat of the flame. Maybe you can only make dinky shit meals on it, but the pocketrocket has been better in my experience in every way
i like alcohol stoves they are super comfy to use and i like the cheap fuel + weight savings for shorter trips. i use a trangia + trangia triangle but im considering switching to a speedsterstoves burner because i like the spillproof design since im a clumsy fuck.
alcohol stoves work at lower temperatures if you preheat them also.
have used a soto windmaster its nice that you dont need a windscreen but its really gay you have to pay 10usd extra for the triflex stand which is just a small piece of metal.
can just get a BRS 3000t for 15 dollars though
cold soaking is free
I'm not one to shill korean shit but I don't get why people go for canister screwtop stoves, when the kovea spider will never have stability issues, still fits in the pot, and can invert the can for lower temps.
I was under the impression that inserting the canister in cold weather requires a stove that’s made for it, as the fuel is ejected as a liquid rather than a gas. Is that right? Do some stoves do both or am I a retard?
I buy the "iso pro" fuel pods for my MSR, and they work fine down in the 20s. Haven't had a chance to test them below 0 yet, but I wouldn't bother with a tiny stove at those temperatures anyway.
The spider (and I assume other remote canister stoves) has a pre-heat tube so liquid fuel from inverting the can still vaporizes.
According to PrepHole there's always s0meT1nG to burn. Leaves, pine needles, dead bugs etc. Just use a bio fuel stove and stop cumsooning.
Car or motorcycle camping I use gasoline/ white gas stoves. Easy, fast, good heat control, and fuel is easy to get. For backpacking I use alcohol stoves. I don't like the amount of waste that propane or iso stoves create.
The canisters are recyclable lefty
recycling is a meme, live in a apartment there's not anyplace to recycle, just trash. I've looked at other apartments and it's just trash dumpsters, never recycling
compare metal gas cylinders to metal (or plastic) alcohol fuel can which is bigger. I don't really think it makes a difference unless the fuel container is refilled (besides plastic)
Ive got an MSR Pocket Rocket 2 and shit is cash. Got reccomended it by friends of mine who were boyscouts, shit is cash.
https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/canister-stoves/pocketrocket-2-stove/09884.html
I have this exact stove it's great, wide burner head, low noise, easy simmer control and also extremely light. Better choice than the BRS3000 blowtorch style burners unless you are only going to be boiling water
gas is racist
My uncle gave me this cheap ass stove he got from where I can only guess is Wish (or god forbid Aliexpress). I've used it to cook two meals so far using walmart gas as fuel. Should I be worried about it exploding or some shit?
that's the chink clone of the pocket rocket 1. its actually pretty good.
i had qc issues with my deluxe, which is really unfortunate because i like my pr1 and my pr2.
are you trolling?
whenever there's a burn ban in a park its illegal to use a alcohol stove.
burn bans happen all up and down the west coast every summer.
anywhere there's a burn ban its usually illegal to use an alcohol stove. if you didn't know that stop doing it, or at least have the basic decency to use a spill proof design with welder's felt and the basic decency to bury your stove when using it. its for a reason. but yeah those are probably the only places which permanently ban them.
if i saw someone with a alcohol stove in a wildfire prone region but they had it buried with a pile of dirt next to it i probably won't care. i imagine most rangers would give you a pass.
>if i saw someone with a alcohol stove in a wildfire prone region
you won't do anything bitch
rape correction
>most rangers would give you a pass
Where are you people hiking that rangers pass your campsite?
typically places with poaching issues. someone else snitches and the rangers come to check it out.
the rangers were extremely aggressive and tracked me for a week the last time i was backpacking around rainier because i had dogs with me (not allowed)
My jetboil zip crapped out on me so I decided to go back to liquid fuel because, well, it just always works, or you can pour it on some sticks and bingo bongo you have fire
But I wanted something smaller then my normal Trangia which is set up for multiple people/nights (and also gas) so I picked up the mini, basically just gonna be for heating water for some coffee on walks or fishing
Anyone have experience with the Trangia fuel bottles? Never tried them myself and I'm not exactly sure what they actually do? Over just a normal bottle...
whats the consensus on solid fuel tablets, like the Esbit?
are jetboil as good as they say?
if you don't eat real food then yes
if mix-with-boiled-water meals are beneath you, then no
no one does, we just eat ze bugs and live in the pod
the only thing they have going for them is a fast setup and boil time, their fuel efficiency is only useful after 5+ days because the whole system is so heavy alone