>our last chance to get a modern production carry sized centerfire top break

>our last chance to get a modern production carry sized centerfire top break
>our last chance to get a modern production rolling block pistol (or even rifle for that matter, even though Pedersoli makes them but in limited chamberings)
>gives us a hideous 9mm PCC for le homesteading (lol) and the same hand-eject revolver that everyone else makes
Is Henry going to go the route of CZ, abandoning all the unique products that set their brand apart in order to put out more tacticool slop? Please tell me it ain't so.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If the only thing that's wrong with the lcc is that you find it ugly then no they're not you baby.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Top breaks are weaker and I don’t think Henry wants to deal with the PR of “muh wrist breakers” buying their revolvers and turning the top strap into shrapnel

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They could easily avoid that by making them 38 only. Yes I know people would piss and moan it's not a magnum but that's the price you pay when selling to morons who'll treat it like a blackhawk

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just want them to start supporting the AR7 and making it an actual competitor to the 10/22. That gun has so much potential that it makes me sad they don't do more with it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Right but everybody already has a 10/22 so why bother getting another cheap 22 auto loader

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because it weighs less, is way thinner than any of the other .22 autoloaders and has a kick ass history

        If you wanted to make a nice 22 autoloader then why would you start with the AR7 as a basis? It's a hyper specific niche gun, it's puzzling why people want to shoehorn it into other tasks when there's already a bazillion other 22's better suited to whatever it is you're doing.

        The reasons above. I take mine every time I go backpacking because it's the only carbine that does what it does as well as it does and I really believe that if there was more aftermarket support for it then henry would sell a shit load of them.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Because it weighs less, is way thinner than any of the other .22 autoloaders and has a kick ass history
          None of this matters to hundred of thousands of folks who already have 10/22's that work perfectly well for plinking& small game hunting. The majority of gun owners aren't "gotta catch em all!" Types who want to buy a bunch of similar guns. Most just have something that works& stick with it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Then stick with what you got lol competition is always good and the AR7 has the potential to become a decent competitor for the 10/22 with some effort.

            >Because it weighs less
            It's 3.5 lbs. That's barely any lighter than a 10/22 in a Magpul takedown stock

            >it's way thinner
            The stock is like a fat woman's thigh, due to the idea of it floating if it was dropped in water and the need to contain the other parts inside. I'm not sure why you're calling it thin.

            >kick ass history
            What history is that exactly? It has a reputation for being a terrible shooter.

            >it's the only carbine that does what it does as well as it does
            which is what exactly? They're not very accurate, and they don't even float well anymore, destroying the one legit benefit they actually had even if that applied to people flying over water.

            Thanks to Haga defense which is really the only aftermarket support besides Ar-7.com the stock can be made way smaller and more ergonomic like the one I have on my rifle, even folded it is way thinner than the OG stock and when extended its pencil thin from muzzle to buttpad

            >Because it weighs less
            It's 3.5 lbs. That's barely any lighter than a 10/22 in a Magpul takedown stock

            >it's way thinner
            The stock is like a fat woman's thigh, due to the idea of it floating if it was dropped in water and the need to contain the other parts inside. I'm not sure why you're calling it thin.

            >kick ass history
            What history is that exactly? It has a reputation for being a terrible shooter.

            >it's the only carbine that does what it does as well as it does
            which is what exactly? They're not very accurate, and they don't even float well anymore, destroying the one legit benefit they actually had even if that applied to people flying over water.

            US/israelite airforce along with being featured in a lot of cool 70s/80s movies including James Bond. Even William shatner used it once which was pretty great.

            >Not accurate
            Lmao

            >float
            Don't care about its floating, just that I want a stupid compact and lightweight backpacker with magazines that are likewise tiny and thin and not like trying to carry around a pocket full of golf balls

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              airforce
              As a survival weapon. Not something that actually gets used. It's as exciting as a spare tire or a first aid kit.

              >along with being featured in a lot of cool 70s/80s movies including James Bond.
              I'll admit it seems cool when you see mister badass sniper assemble his cool secret agent gun and take out the bad guy. But once you know the secret behind the illusion--that it's just a survival rifle the prop department spray-painted and not some ultra-accurate special piece--then it's not cool anymore.

              >>I put a thin aftermarket stock on it.
              Important information. In doing so you've totally transformed the gun away from its original concept, of an all-in-one floating survival gun. If you're willing to do that then why are you tied to the AR-7 design at all? It sounds like the only feature that you value is thin magazines.

              >Don't care about its floating
              But that's literally the whole point of the AR7. It's what makes it unique. If you take that away we're not talking about anything resembling an AR7 anymore, so why not draw up a fresh straight-blowback super compact 22 with thin mags?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >AR7 has the potential to become a decent competitor for the 10/22 with some effort
              It just doesn't though. Evidenced by the fact that it's been around a long time and the market has determined people prefer 10/22's. It's okay to like something but don't pretend like it's more than it is

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I've noticed a fairly recent uptick in their popularity. Nobody talked about them 20 years ago unless you were talking about a literal fishing guide in the backwoods somewhere worrying about things floating if they fell out of his canoe. But in the last few years I've noticed more and more interest in them. Which is fine, but I'm curious what is driving it. Was it in some recent game? Were any of the big name guntubers shilling it?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Were any of the big name guntubers shilling it?
                Wouldn't know. But I think that any& all perception of "uptick in popularity" relating to firearms or calibers these days is driven entirely by social media shills. People on this board see their IG& YT feeds suddenly filled up with, say, 5.7's, 10mm's, or AR7's for a couple weeks and then they think, "Wow everybody has this thing, therefore it must actually be good and popular" But that's just not the reality

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              How long has ar-7.com been around? They do seem legit as there's at least a forum post about them on ar15.com but I've never heard of them before. You actually found me a part I've been looking for on an unrelated gun for months, lol.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                At least as long as I've been into guns so 10 years or so

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                At the very least the AR-7 needs last round bolt hold open magazines to prevent the accidental dry firing that ruins the firing pin.
                >did I fire 8 rounds or only 7?
                >click*
                >frick
                This is guaranteed to happen with any semi auto without bolt hold open and it will ruin the firing pin on most rim fired guns (including the AR-7)
                Even this Henry representative dry fires the AR-7 several times because he doesn't remember how many rounds he fired https://youtu.be/8SRxBX1_brE?si=QsluZVVqKc2-wWhh
                FIX IT HENRY AND I'LL BUY ONE YOU LAZY FRICKING BASTARDS.
                At least offer a bolt hold open follower that we can install ourselves into your overpriced
                People have made there own hold open followers to alleviate this. You can also just load a snap cap as the 8th round.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly, it needs LRBHO, the ability to get OEM mags that have higher round counts, and swap out the dovetail rail for a standard 1913. Do that and make a few different trim types for people who don't care about its floatability and you have something that is a better marlin papoose that can keep up with current demands. There's no way it's that hard to do.

                That being said I'm on a quest to upgrade mine as much as possible because I really like it more that my 10/22 TD for hiking and camping. I hope Haga and AR-7 keep coming out with new ways to improve the existing design

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >and swap out the dovetail rail for a standard 1913.
                NTA and usually I'd say "but muh aesthetics" but frick is it so hard to find good dovetail rings. CZ pisses me off the most about this. Fine, put a dovetail on top; I do like how they look...but good rings require picatinny. At the very least keep the top of the dovetail flat and drill and tap it for some common rail FFS.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I really like it more that my 10/22
                Don't own either but I agree. The AR-7 is just cool and looks extremely handy.

                I dry fire mine pretty often (literally every time i want to put it away for stoarage) and I haven't had any issues with it

                A pack of snap caps will cost you half as much as a replacement firing pin for the one you are ruining.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >This is guaranteed to happen with any semi auto without bolt hold open and it will ruin the firing pin on most rim fired guns
                Except most modern .22 semi autos? Is the AR-7 just designed moronic and they never fixed that or what? If that was an issue on any decently designed semi auto .22 like a 10/22, mine would've been fricked by now. Hundreds of dry fires between at home and running dry.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I dry fire mine pretty often (literally every time i want to put it away for stoarage) and I haven't had any issues with it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >yet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I've had it for like 6 years m8. Besides that one guy on youtube (who hasn't actually had an issue he's just paranoid about it) I don't see anyone who has had an issue with it

                >I really like it more that my 10/22
                Don't own either but I agree. The AR-7 is just cool and looks extremely handy.
                [...]
                A pack of snap caps will cost you half as much as a replacement firing pin for the one you are ruining.

                What about the follower mod? I'd do that before having to pick up snap caps every magazine

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >What about the follower mod? I'd do that before having to pick up snap caps every magazine
                Someone mentioned it on a forum post I saw. I don't know the details.
                You wouldn't have to pick up the snap cap either. It would be left in the chamber after the click tells you the gun is empty. Cycle the action with your hand or shooting table under the ejection port.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Because it weighs less
          It's 3.5 lbs. That's barely any lighter than a 10/22 in a Magpul takedown stock

          >it's way thinner
          The stock is like a fat woman's thigh, due to the idea of it floating if it was dropped in water and the need to contain the other parts inside. I'm not sure why you're calling it thin.

          >kick ass history
          What history is that exactly? It has a reputation for being a terrible shooter.

          >it's the only carbine that does what it does as well as it does
          which is what exactly? They're not very accurate, and they don't even float well anymore, destroying the one legit benefit they actually had even if that applied to people flying over water.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you wanted to make a nice 22 autoloader then why would you start with the AR7 as a basis? It's a hyper specific niche gun, it's puzzling why people want to shoehorn it into other tasks when there's already a bazillion other 22's better suited to whatever it is you're doing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because it weighs less, is way thinner than any of the other .22 autoloaders and has a kick ass history

      [...]
      The reasons above. I take mine every time I go backpacking because it's the only carbine that does what it does as well as it does and I really believe that if there was more aftermarket support for it then henry would sell a shit load of them.

      10/22 takedowns do literally everything an AR-7 can except float

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Guess how I know you don't own boffum

        >What about the follower mod? I'd do that before having to pick up snap caps every magazine
        Someone mentioned it on a forum post I saw. I don't know the details.
        You wouldn't have to pick up the snap cap either. It would be left in the chamber after the click tells you the gun is empty. Cycle the action with your hand or shooting table under the ejection port.

        I get that I'm just saying it's a hassle

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          First one he reshapes the follower to sit higher for LRBHO but it will get chewed up. Then he bends some small piece of metal and used that as a follower but I haven't seen an explanation.
          https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/henry-ar-7-mods.1239589/

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            Found a picture of the followers

            ?si=1fvyDpeWaJGhRUoq
            Giving those 2006 YouTube slideshow vibes. Blast some drowning pool for maximum effect.

            Frick yeah dude thank you

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          First one he reshapes the follower to sit higher for LRBHO but it will get chewed up. Then he bends some small piece of metal and used that as a follower but I haven't seen an explanation.
          https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/henry-ar-7-mods.1239589/

          Found a picture of the followers

          ?si=1fvyDpeWaJGhRUoq
          Giving those 2006 YouTube slideshow vibes. Blast some drowning pool for maximum effect.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

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          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            FRICK I knew unicode wouldn't work here.
            .o/ This is bob. Copy and paste him so he can take over youtube.
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  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can we get them to make a modern version of the high standard double 9, and the H&R 999 top break? It would get around the spicy reloads problem.. both of those are fantastic fun 22 revolvers.. and neither have any real good competition.. the diamondback sidekick feels like the action was sandblasted before assembly, and most everything else is either a much cheaper single action, or a much more expensive double action (colt and s/w) and the only thing hanging out in the 400-600 dollar range for new 22 revolvers seems to be Taurus junk or the lcr..

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Can we get them to make a modern version of the high standard double 9, and the H&R 999 top break?
      a new 999 would probably cost like, $1200, no body would buy it, then the company would go bust.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I never thought that Henry would make a revolver, let alone a top break revolver. I'm curious why, because that Big Boy revolver seems like the last thing anyone wanted.

        Why do you think it would be so expensive? The NAA Ranger 2 is about $600. I can't see the price doubling just because it's double action, especially with a gun that's already had the R&D taken care of years ago.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I actually somewhat like the look of their PCC with their own magwell and mags but I think the laser engraved/pressed texturing on the sides is butt ugly and they'd be better off pressing checkering into it like has been done for, what, 100 years on cheap guns? It'd look way better. By a long shot. The price, now that I don't like so much. It's currently 2.6 Hi-Point 995s (~$250 minimum vs ~$650 minimum) but it looks better and can take better mags at the very least IMO. Also I will still make fun of their revolver for the weird AR-15 pistol grip-like shape at the top of the grip.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That texturing, man it's so out of place.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not too bad.. if it was a lever action I’d have preferred checkering. But honestly they’re not hiding a new design as an old gun.. so I give it a pass. It is pretty damn grippy. My only real complaint is that when it’s dirty the safety gets a little weird.. it’s fun to shoot, I’m at about 1700 rounds since I last stripped it down though and the aforementioned safety switch is really hard to get into the “safe” position.. gun shoots fine though. Doesn’t seem to care what type of 9mm you run…. Got the Glock adapter because of plentiful mags, and as long as you don’t use dirt cheap knockoffs it cycles fine.. pretty fun with 33 rd stick mags.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, no doubt that it'd grip well. It just looks a little funky IMO. And yeah I'd end up getting a Glock adapter. Kinda disappointed they don't have a Beretta adapter as those are the mags I have but glock is cheap.
        >My only real complaint is that when it’s dirty the safety gets a little weird.. it’s fun to shoot, I’m at about 1700 rounds since I last stripped it down though and the aforementioned safety switch is really hard to get into the “safe” position
        Lol sounds like my silenced 10/22. Not sure if it's the new silencer throwing more junk back than the old one or it's just filthy right now. I just dripped some oil into the safety and worked it a bit. A lot of junk is stuck in it. I just don't want to tear the trigger group down again...

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just learned apparently most pressed checkering is inverted and looks ugly and now my day is ruined, thanks OP. Never looked close enough to notice. I know I have some cheap guns where it wasn't inverted checkering that was for sure pressed though. And really these days I don't think it'd be that hard to have a machine do it if it wasn't possible to "just" (positive) press checker a stock and forend.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pressed checkering looks like shit. Luckily that is changing, I'm seeing more and more laser engraved checkering these days. It doesn't look as nice as hand cut but it's a zillion times better than pressed, and it's also a fast process and therefore attractive to the gun manufacturers so I think we'll see more of that going forward.

      And the irony is that if you look carefully a lot of hand checkering isn't so nice. It's very common that the left and right sides of the stock won't match exactly, or if you have the forend from a double gun or the pump handle from a shotgun the pattern may not be perfectly centered or symmetrical.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They could press texture it though and do some design like this however. Oh and please stop fricking laser engraving markings in shit that looks like Times New Roman on any gun, especially "retro"/"vintage" styled guns. It looks like ass.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I know right, I honestly would rather manufacturers hire a bunch of mexicans with 1/8 letter punches than lazer engraving. Gives the gun sovl.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >henry
    >rolling block
    If only.

    >modern production rolling block pistol
    Even the Italians aren't making them. Again, if only.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Another “why can’t can the gun industry remake the [XYZ]?” post
    Where do these posters come from?
    Why are they too lazy to google these things?
    Do they own guns?
    Are they even human?
    > Is Henry going to go the route of CZ, abandoning all the unique products that set their brand apart in order to put out more tacticool slop?
    >Please tell me it ain't so.
    It’s essentially a modernized Marlin camp carbine appealing to the fudd-like crowd with quality of life improvements.
    When the Camp Carbine was discontinued, people were whining to Marlin to bring it back and to give it things like threaded barrels, new rails, better magazine compatibility etc.
    Henry answered the prayers of these people who wanted a no-thrills PCC and homosexuals like you throw a hissy fit because some people enjoy things.
    If you want an ol’ timey gun, buy something from Uberti and Pedersoli or from a boutique gun maker that still makes old style guns by hand (but charges high).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Since I actually went out and bought a homesteader does that mean I’m good to petition Henry to remake a double nine? Honestly as long as it was in the 500-700 range I’d buy it.. haven’t had any luck finding a high standard one locally and also worried if I shoot the hell out of it I’ll be fighting against a 50 year old gun… having a new one warrantied would be nice.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you want an ol’ timey gun
      Or you can buy an old gun. Yes, some of them are in prostituted out condition and some are expensive collector's pieces, but there are lots of older guns in perfectly shootable condition that don't cost an arm and a leg.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >autoloader

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Henry is good. Side gate plus removable tube is goated. The revolver was moronic though.

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