organic infantry drone defense

hello /k/ an idea came to me in a dream last night
drones have apparently become a major threat to conventional fighting forces and will probably only continue to become more deadly to infantry etc
the idea is as follows: what if we equipped all soldiers who carry assault rifles with an m203 or equivalent light underbarrel launcher and provide them with loads like canister birdshot or capture netting or even a flak grenade? this would give infantry a familiar way to kill drones without needing excessive retraining on new equipment and I can't imagine it would be very expensive to do so. thoughts?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    00 Drone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      those grenade dropping drones are well outside the effective range of buckshot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shoot the grenade that drops from it, then

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dropping drones are well outside the effective range of buckshot.
        they'll have to descend to 30m or lower if they want to actually hit, well within the range of buckshot

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is close to what we generally do in the cumpits, at present. Not going into great detail. Also some bespoke personal defense gizmos are in trials.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      P.S. Frick the shotguns for drone defense spammer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      flak or shot?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        homing killdrones

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          killdrones to kill killdrones? sounds expensive. I think drones will come to fear the blooper

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Also some bespoke personal defense gizmos are in trials.

      Like what?

      https://i.imgur.com/kQ4RhXQ.jpg

      hello /k/ an idea came to me in a dream last night
      drones have apparently become a major threat to conventional fighting forces and will probably only continue to become more deadly to infantry etc
      the idea is as follows: what if we equipped all soldiers who carry assault rifles with an m203 or equivalent light underbarrel launcher and provide them with loads like canister birdshot or capture netting or even a flak grenade? this would give infantry a familiar way to kill drones without needing excessive retraining on new equipment and I can't imagine it would be very expensive to do so. thoughts?

      See:

      https://i.imgur.com/Ter6Dy0.png

      00 Drone

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone who's shot a clay pigeon thinks this would be easy but it seems hard in practice. I don't think I've seen 3 videos of someone bagging a drone with a shotgun this whole war.
    Quadcopters can be very high up, FPVs can be low and extremely fast.
    Of course, even if all a shotgun does is force drones to maintain a large distance that's still worth something.

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We've tested it extensively. It's wildly unrealistic. Knowing about that video already puts you an entire lifetime's worth of wisdom ahead of the shotgun spammer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why is it unrealistic? Is it just too far or is the drone changing directions too fast? Aka is it a skill issue?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >russians are being issued over unders
      do they not have pumps or semis

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wouldn't hurt. But realistically, it won't be a significant defense either - more of a morale booster for people who get splatted 2 seconds later.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hits crack pipe
    what about...laser...shotguns!

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fight against drones isn’t fought with direct weapons. Its ECM jamming, frequency blocking and smashing the operators location. Ukraine, ironically, isn’t demonstrating drone warfare, its demonstrating the use of comercial drones rigged into a combat capacity more than fully fledged attack/defence with drone systems. It just demonstrates how poorly prepared both sides are for a modern war, In the absence of total airpower Drones are only a lethality out there because of the lack of air superiority and funding at troop level for anti-drone systems. When the west decide it’s time to stomp Russia into the floor, you’ll bet there’ll be an ECM jammer at every level from the ground up. You won’t be able to send up a drone without it being scrambled within 1km of its users position, and the likelihood is, the operator will be paste within a few minutes due to location orientated IDF.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm thinking beyond just today's RC drones, to include future AI-controlled drones that can operate independently of a remote command center and thus might be resistent to most forms of ECM
      I think some point of point-defense for infantry is warranted at this point whether it be a kinetic weapon like flak or shot or maybe a laser mounted on one of those boston dynamics dog drones

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lasers for infantry is almost a pipe dream for being blinded, it's one thing if it's in a vehicle that can support a large enough radar to warn the infantry escort that it's a firin' it's lazor, but otherwise you have a mobile byzantine blinding platform foe your own guys

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's got to be some dirt of electronic warfare jamming or EMP whatever solution getting downsized to vehicle-borne or man-portable use at the company or platoon level.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Infantry aren't supposed to be a universal do all all at once type of force. Combined arms is the name of the game. Most likely what will happen is that you will not only see an integration of EW at battalion and brigade + levels, but also probably AD systems at battalion as well, either organic or habitually attached from a brigade or division unit. Said AD will most likely incorporate lasers with good old fashioned missiles and cannons. These units could also even perform C-RAM.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For the US, the answer is generally to use vehicle-mounted defenses, ranging from cell-phone jammers (which worked well against Taliban and ISIS drones) to the new laser and microwave cannons that should be entering service in the next couple years.

    For light infantry, it's a more serious problem that may reduce the viability of light infantry even in COIN operations.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A compact drone you carry with you, you send it out to kill the spotted drone. Its made just to do this. Doesn't even have to be explosive technically.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would the pocket drone drop sand onto the other drone?

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